Des Moines Register: Paul (1), Gingrich (2), Romney (3), Perry (4)
Here is the latest Iowa poll, from the Des Moines Register:
Paul 27.5%
Gingrich 25.3%
Romney 17.5%
Perry 11.2%
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Perry hit a high water mark of 16% in a previous poll, but since then he has fallen back. No recent poll has Perry higher than fourth place, which is not sufficient to give him momentum coming out Iowa, especially considering how much money Perry has been spending here, on everything from a heavy TV buy to a bus tour to direct mail aimed at evangelicals. (Kronberg had samples in the QR; the work was not impressive.) To do better, Perry needs Romney’s support to collapse. Rick Santorum got the key evangelical endorsements, not Perry. Next up is New Hampshire, where Perry is flirting with 0%. RealClearPolitics‘ average of four recent polls has him at 1.8%. Having bet the farm on Iowa, he now must rely on South Carolina as his firewall–only the firewall doesn’t look very fire proof. Perry is running fifth in the RealClearPolitics average of recent polls, with 5.8%.
So considering Perry’s poor showing, a question should be raised about whether Perry can even win the primary in Texas. In October, Azimuth polling, admittedly not one of the biggies in the business, did a poll in Texas that showed Herman Cain leading Perry. Here’s how the poll ranked the top five:
Cain 33%
Paul 19%
Perry 18%
Romney 7%
Gingrich 5%
Since this poll was taken, Cain has dropped out, Paul has moved up, and Gingrich has joined Romney in the top tier. I don’t think it’s a given that Perry will win the Texas primary. He has inflicted a lot of damage on himself. There is precedent for a “favorite son” losing to an outsider: Lloyd Bentsen couldn’t prevent Jimmy Carter from winning the primary in 1976. Depending upon their ability to raise funds, Ron Paul could give Perry a run for his money, and so could Gingrich. And that would be the ultimate insult to the state’s longest serving governor.
Ida says:
MOE of +/- 5 percentage points. I’d also be wary of just how a “likely caucus goer” is identified. Details here: http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2011/dec/ISUpoll2
There are interesting nuggets worth reading in the write-up. For example: he new poll also compared the commitment among respondents to particular candidates from November to December. Although 67.3 percent of Romney’s November supporters remain with him in the latest survey, 14.2 percent have moved to Perry and 10.3 percent to Gingrich. Among Perry’s November supporters, 42.5 percent are now in the Gingrich camp. By contrast, Paul’s supporters largely stayed in place with 83.8 percent of the November supporters also supporting him in December. Bachmann has also had a 78.1 percent retention rate.
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AreYouKiddingMe says:
Perry is not even in the picture. He is now a fringe candidate at best, and nobody is even paying attention to him anymore. I still say Mitt is the only one on the Repub ticket who has a chance against Obama. The others would lose badly. Our resident “bum steer” continues to prove what a horrible candidate he is, and how stupid Texans have been for the past 11 years…
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Texas Ex says:
This poll was reported by the Des Moines Register (and other media), but it is not poll sponsored by Des Moines Register (this was a poll by Iowa State University). The polls sponsored by Des Moines Register are noted for their best-in-show accuracy (the polls reported by the Register are just polls).
The main weakness of this poll is due to the fact that it is based on data that goes all the way back to December 8 (and so it misses most of Gingrich’s collapse and the reallocation of those former Gingrich voters).
The Iowa real race (for Perry) is for third place (with a slim possibility that the race might be for second place if Gingrich or Romney collapse more than is currently foreseen).
Perry is in the running to finish third in Iowa (he’s more or less neck-and-neck with Bachmann and a step ahead of Santorum), and whether Gingrich’s collapse plateaus ahead of the Perry-Bachmann-Santorum cluster or in the middle of that pack is unknown at this time (all we know is that Gingrich is still ahead of that second-tier cluster but that he is still falling).
Perry could beat Bachmann and Santorum; that’s about as likely as not.
If Perry beats Bachmann and Santorum, he will either finish third or second.
Third place in Iowa is a win for Perry and a campaign-ending loss for Bachmann (and it would be a campaign ending loss for Santorum but for the fact that his campaign has already effectively ended).
Second place in Iowa would be a huge win for Perry and is dependent on Perry beating Bachmann and Santorum (a task he has some control over) and Gingrich’s collapse continuing rather than plateauing (a factor that is beyond Perry’s control).
Perry’s fate is not yet written (but, on the other hand, I won’t be stuffing anyone’s stocking with Perry-for-nominee shares on Intrade, either).
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texun Reply:
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:09 pm
As I’ve been reminding you guys for several months, the Paul and Bachmann supporters stick with their candidates. Paul will probably go into the RNConvention with delegates, though Bachmann might not. Given the volatility so far, it is likely that the winds will continue to shift in Iowa and that Romney Gingrinch, and Paul will battle for top billing.
I still think it as likely that Perry will be elected Pope as President.
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anonymous Reply:
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
That’s nonsense. Bachmann was leading the pack at 32% in July. If Bachmann supporters stick with their candidate, she’d already be fueling up for her victory lap. Bachmann sheds supporters like a snake sheds its skin.
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Tnix Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Nah, he’s done. We just need to have Paul provide the coup_de_grace and put a fork in him. “Hoping” is not a strategy at any point in a campaign.
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South Texan says:
You made my day! Thanks!
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JohnBernardBooks says:
Every conservative’s Christmas present, Perry surging right before the primaries. It must suck to be a democrat.
Perry/Gingrich looking like a shooin now. When is the first Gingrich/Biden debate?
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texun Reply:
December 22nd, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Build in a big laughting face here.
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Alan Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
JBB, care to explain how your golden boy Rick isn’t even going to be on the ballot in Virginia because he couldn’t get enough signatures? Oh right, it’s the Democrats’ fault – but I thought good conservatives didn’t whine and blame others for their own failures.
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The Mustache That Dare Not Speak Its Name says:
If the Texas primary is moved to April and Perry loses the early primaries handily, wouldn’t it be better for him to drop out of the race before the primary? That would let him save some face.
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patriotone says:
The double dipping issue is hurting Perry badly in Texas. I don’t know the effect it is having nationwide but it certainly knocks him off message. In Texas, he has been able to pick fights without push back. Not so much nationwide. People challenge him when he says mean and hateful things and frankly Perry is not used to, nor prepared for that. He is 100% not going to be the nominee and about 95% not going to be the Veep nominee. He will return to Texas and punish us here. There is a book on him now, and the next campaign, if there is one, won’t be so easy.
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anita Reply:
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
To be knocked off message requires you to have a message to begin with. What is Perry’s message? It’s not evident to me that he has one — he just seems to generally rant, hoping something will stick. Nothing has.
His bigger problem is that the Perry narrative is well set at this point — he’s an amiable dunce with little understanding of the basics of government bumbling through a campaign for an office that is far beyond his intellectual pay grade.
If you want evidence of his standing in Texas, note that R’s are running away from him — Kay Granger quoted yesterday that his foreign policy proposal was “unworkable”. Ouch.
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texasindie says:
Paul, could you run a better link to the QR info you referenced? Can’t find it. Thanks.
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Willie James says:
The Democrats cntinue to pray, and pray hard for Perry.
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anita Reply:
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:43 pm
As a Democrat, only Romney is a threat. The R’s have done themselves no favors by forcing each other into purity tests and factional infighting.
And I should add that the R’s in Congress are doing their part to poison the brand of the GOP with their petulant display, refusing to adopt their own party’s compromise on extending the payroll tax. Pathetic.
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linda says:
“ultimate insult to the state’s longest serving Governor”—-put me down as insulting him. He has insulted and embarrassed Texas.
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Casanova Frankenstein says:
Perry will be the next President of the United States.
He is a powder keg, and Iowa is the match.
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William Ward says:
If Perry gets eleven percent after throwing other people’s money at the problem like a drunken democrat, he’s toast. I hate to get Robert Morrow started but the real story is the smart Texan in the race, Ron Paul. He deserves great credit and if he laps Rick Perry he deserves greater attention from the Texas Press.
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W. B. Travis says:
Seems to me that Romney has the only chance of a reasonable national showing against the President. The GOP has not put forth a reasonable candidate outside of Mitt and the shenanigans of the inexperienced and out of touch far right in recent days leads me to think: four more years.
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Robert Morrow says:
Ron Paul polls extremely well with independents. His demographics are excellent and they are not going to die off anytime soon unless John McCain puts them in another war. Maybe that is why they like Ron Paul.
I would like to see some Paul-Obama matchups in some polling of swing states. I think the results would shock the world. Any neocon votes Paul loses in a general election, he more than makes up with some Demo crossover votes and by getting a huge chunk of independents.
Note to Republicans – it is either Ron Paul or 4 years of Obama. Your pick.
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Jerry Only Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:39 am
So Morrow, we know youre a conspiracy theorist and a Paul shill. But theres something I didnt know about you… I just looked at your FB profile, whats up with all of the pervy stuff? Your pics look like something that a teenager would hide under his mattress. If you want credibility on your absurd theories, thats not really a good way to enforce it.
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Robert Morrow Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
I am a political researcher and an unpaid political activist. There are some *conspiracies* that I think are legit: the JFK assassination is a no brainer domestic coup d’etat for anyone with an unbiased mind who looks at it.
I do not think 9/11 was an inside job. Speaking of teenage juvenile comments … calling people conspiracy theorists probably means you are stupid or just stone cold ignorant. Probably believes every fantasy that someone in government tells you. I know a lot of truth and “deep politics” that the government and controlled MSM will not tell you.
As for my Facebook page, I have lots of pictures of hot, sexy women with big boobs. That is my preference.
Of course I am a Ron Paul shill. I bet Raquel Welch is too; she is a libertarian. By the way, Jerry Only who do you support for president?
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Jerry Only Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
i still find it completely bizarre that you would put up that kind of weird stuff on a publicly accessibly page, not to mention some of the comments there.
i would love to see huntsman, but seeing as how the GOP has gone insane and is bound and determined to nominate a clown, i will chew back my vomit and vote for obama next fall.
texun says:
Well, there’s the choice: Ron Paul or Perry. Could I see Plan C?
At least there is not much doubt that Paul usually means what he says, while Perry rarely understands the stuff he peddles. Unfortunately, while Paul points to true north on some issues,like going to war with Iran, his needle spins crazily on some other issues. But, he’s not an opportunistic simpleton like Perry.
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Reminder says:
On the ground in Iowa they love Rick Perry. He is best out talking to folks in a non debate format. He will be in the top 3 in Iowa.
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anita Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:11 am
Thanks for the report, Reminder.
Considering his performance in debate formats, the bar is extremely low. I assume by “best” you mean he can maintain basic conversation without locking down for 53 seconds of no brain activity?
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Anonymous says:
I hope Perry wins and shows that Texans can put up a good fight. Don’t count out Perry until the Convention is over..there will be plenty of wheeling and dealing there where Perry will do very well.
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anita Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 am
I, for one, am sick of Perry acting as a proxy for Texans. He’s sullied our good name enough, and set us back in the eyes of a generation of Americans. There are many good things happening in Texas, but they are overshadowed by Perry’s doltish faux Texas persona.
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donuthin Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
Hopefully he will not even win the Texas primary, quietly serve out the remainder of his term as governor and fade into oblivion.
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Robert Morrow Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Rick Perry represents *your* foreign policy very well Anita. He is a proxy for you.
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anita Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Care to explain?
obamas mama says:
gotta think its gonna end up 4 more of obama and then at least 4 of hillary at this pt (if she’s vp on this ticket). if i were a bettin man. Same way bush got reelected…how do you go for the unknown evil over the known evil when times are too rough/uncertain? plus i think despite everything the repub nominee is gonna be romney, which pretty much kills the excitement gap right there
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Julie says:
As long as Perry has millions in his campaign fund, he will continue running for president, although he has no chance of winning unless Romney and Gingrich make some major mistake. Perry certainly wants to remain in the race through the April primary in Texas, but even before Texans go to the polls, Perry’s political future will have been decided.
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Red Dirt & Sand says:
Texas primaries will be in April or May and Perry will lose to the future nominee, and Ron Paul, sweet.
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Rebbeca Ocuna says:
Perry has moved very important issues to the Hispanic people to the forefront of the Presidential campaign. Issues like immigration, education of undocumented youth, and the near sighted politicians who thought the Wall was a good idea. Say what you might about Perry, he has proven his leadership to this State and our Country by taking up the hard issues in a Republican primary.
While Obama continues to build walls in flood zones, destroying South Texas’ ecotourism and ending all thoughts of saving the endangered cats found only along the Rio Grande. Obama continues to deport more hispanics in the History of our Country. Is this the CHANGE that you voted for or want 4 more years of? The hispanic Community is done with Obama, he truly has shown where his predjudices hide.
Deport the Dream Act kids, illegals and their American Children and maybe the Democrats will win some of the Anglo vote back.. Sounds more like a War on Hispanics than a winnable strategy!
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Jerry Only Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
this is probably the most well written post by a campaign staffer on here ive seen.
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anita Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Rebecca, you can pick up your $25 at the campaign HQ now.
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BackUpMembers Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:57 pm
I do not work for the campaign, but this is awesome and correct.
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Mr. Smith says:
Rebecca, I always wondered if I woud hear a Hispanic who was in favor of Sanctuary city legislation. Every time you are detained because you forgot to carry your proof of citizenship (remember, a driver’s license is no proof of citizenship because legal alien residents can have driver’s licenses), I hope you praise Perry from your detention cell. Papers. Papers!
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John Johnson says:
Will one of you, including Mr. Burka, please tell me why spending time pushing the agendas of Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, or Huntsman is not a total and complete waste of time and effort? Will you please admit that not one of them, without devine intervention, stands a chance of winning the Republican nomination.
Some Dems who voted for Obama last go around will have to vote for the next Repub nominee in order for the Rebup to win the presidency; the majority of the indies will have to vote for the next Repub nominee to get him elected. The next Repub nominee will not be the next President of the United States on conservative Repub votes alone.
Anyone disagree?
Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, and Paul will not garner enough middle of the road votes to win…all of theirs would come from the far right and the conservative indies. This will not generate enough votes to win unless the rest stay and home and do not get out to vote.
Romney is the only current Republican candidate who stands an even chance of beating Obama. At some point in time, those calling themselves Republicans are going to have to come to this realization.
I’m sure that some of you disagree, and hope you will tell us all why I am wrong.
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Robert Morrow Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
The only 3 GOP candidates who have a chance against Obama are Paul and … I can’t think of the second or third one. Oops. Nominate Romney and the vast majority of the increasing Ron Paulers will not vote for him. You may have veto power over the GOP primary, but we independent Ron Paul voters have veto power over the general election.
It is either Ron Paul as the GOP nominee – anti-war, pro liberty – or a noncredible Republican nominee who loses to Obama in the general.
Not to mention the epic fail that would occur if a Gingrich or a Perry were the nominee.
Like most Ron Paulers, I am sick of the Republican establishment who I consider a rung below Obama.
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Anonymous says:
The three judge panel in Washington, two being Bush appointees, did not exactly embrace the Texas Legislature’s redistricting effort in its opinion last night. Any thoughts?
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Whoa Nellie! says:
I’d be very surprised if Perry stays in the race long enough to take a whipping in the Texas primary. He’s either going to run out of money before then, or shrewdly decide he’s not going to let himself be openly beaten in his home state. He’ll pocket what’s left of his campaign money after his first few thumpings and declare he’s needed back for “governor work.” And then he’ll start working on his next gubernatorial reelection race before any rivals can gain traction from his catastrophic presidential ambitions. We’ll all pay the price in the next legislative session.
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Robert Morrow Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I just hope that Perry votos 98-99% of all those bills. That would be a good thing.
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Rebecca Ocuna says:
I’m no campaign staffer Jerry. I was a loyal young democrat that heard Obama speak at UTPA when I was in College claiming that he wasn’t going to build that Wall or he was “going to pass comprehensive immigration reform in his first year as President. I became a delegate for Obama and believed the hype and Change cow dung only to wake up to a President who is still building Walls. In my home town of Rio Grande City the IWBC wants to unilaterally build a wall between our city and the sorounding hills. This would in effect make a dam and would flood the residents of Starr and Hidalgo Co. The President and the Democratic Party are liars that don’t fight for nothing and stand for nothing!
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Anonymous Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
and I am Santa Claus…
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Mr. Smith Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Than vote straight Republican, Rebecca. I’m all for you getting exactly what you deserve. And don’t use double negaives. And I don’t believe for one moment you are who you say you are.
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Mr. Smith Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Also, if your parents entered the good ole US of A with questionable legal status, don’t tell your new best friends, Republican Debbie Riddie, or Republican Leo Berman. They may just wrestle you to the ground and yell TERROR BABY! Feliz Navidad you Perry staffer.
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Jerry Only Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
if you think that the republicans have any vested interest in taking action on the items youre talking about, youre badly mistaken. and if you think perry, on the .001% chance he winds up in office, will attempt immigration reform under any guise other than deportation, youre delusional.
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Jerry Only Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
thats not to say im particularly happy about obama’s action (or inaction) on immigration (or banking prosecutions, or real wall st reform, or health care, etc). but i also realize what the political realities are, and there was no possible way the dems would be able to push any meaningful reform through in this first term. hell, judicial nominees on lower courts cant even get confirmed.
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The Mustache That Dare Not Speak Its Name Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 8:23 pm
To use the words of another Texas statesman, H. Ross Perot, that’s just sad.
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Mr. Golf says:
Paul, your fascination with Perry and Iowa is starting to concern me. I’m beginning to think an intervention may be necessary….are you sleeping during the night? Or is Rick Perry all you seem to think about these days and nights? I, and many others, hope that after the Iowa Caucus election you can occassionally opine on something other than Rick “Bum Steer” Perry and his campaign. “Booooring” is the word I am looking for in describing this blog as of late.
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jpt51 says:
“…Ron Paul could give Perry a run for his money, and so could Gingrich. And that would be the ultimate insult to the state’s longest serving governor.”
Let’s stop for a moment to mourn the end of Rick Perry’s domination of Texas politics. He’ll never be able to bluff us again with his swagger. The question is, how radioactive is he among traditional contributors? It must irk Perry to see a quarter million bucks sent by Bob Perry to bolster Wisconsin’s Governor Scott Walker, instead of Perry’s election pot.
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JohnBernardBooks says:
Perry is peaking at the right time to sweep the primaries. The race could be over before the democrat chosen primary date.
Now thats funny I don’t care who you are.
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Jerry Only Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
sounds just like the iraqi communications director who was denying on state tv that US troops were just outside of baghdad.
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Red Dirt & Sand Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 10:34 pm
I agree with J.O.P. about J.J.B.
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Anonymous Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 7:01 am
If Perry is peaking right now, he’s doing a lousy job. He didn’t get on the Virginia ballot.
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Jeff Crosby says:
After Perry and his folks put all that effort into The Resonse, they must be a bit irked with their failure to lock up the evangelicals. Far be it from me to pretend to speak for the higher authorities, but could it be a “response?”
Merry Christmas, Happy Channukah, Merry Festivus & Happy Holidays!
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Are (are not) Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 11:01 am
You forgot Kwanza Jeff–I am offended.
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Jerry Only says:
oh look! perrys not on the ballot in VA!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/23/perry-ballot-petition-rejected-in-virginia/?hpt=hp_t1
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Robert Morrow says:
Virginia’s ballot requirements are absurd. I really have come to hate the 2 major parties and how they campaign for monopoly and attempts to silence differing voices or not even give them a chance to compete.
Rep Leo Berman of TX was the one proposing legislation to force Libertarians, who do no even hold primaries, to pay stiff filing fees. He was trying to kick Libertarians off the ballot. Meanwhile Texas taxpayers already heavily subsidize GOP and Democratic primaries.
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Robert Morrow Reply:
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Gingrich likely to NOT make Virginia ballot either. And I am not happy about that. It is just another reason why folks hate the GOP and Democrats so much. They also do the same thing to 3rd parties.
Unlike the totalitarians, I like MORE choices and free competition.
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anita Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 7:20 am
I think you’ll find that its typically Rs who want to limit the ability of candidates and voters to participate in the process.
So I wonder how the Perry people feel today — they embraced the most restrictive law in the nation to limit voters access to the franchise, and now they’ve been caught in a scheme to restrict their access to be placed on the ballot.
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Dwayne Stovall says:
If you are worried about “electability”, look no farther than Paul. In almost every poll, using ALL voters, he wins against Obama. If he were to get the nomination (against the GOP establishment’s wishes) he would be President.
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anita Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 9:23 am
That’s funny. Wait until Americans fully digest his plan to legalize all drugs and remove any and all federal environmental regulations and consumer protections. I really don’t think Americans want to live in that type of society.
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Jerry Only Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am
or the fact that he immediately wants to cut $1T in spending, which would dump us into an immediate global depression. ideology trumps reality.
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Anonymous Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
There is no federal line item veto. It is all or nothing.
Sanity Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Ron Paul isn’t going to do those things. Some of you need a Poli Sci course. There is this pesky little thing called Congress. Of course it will be awesome when Ron Paul starts vetoing budget bills and issuing line item vetoes. In some cases Ds and Rs will join hands to override and in other times Paul wins.
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Jerry Only Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
i didnt say he would succeed, i said thats what he wants.
anita Reply:
December 25th, 2011 at 10:24 am
He’ll never get the chance — Americans will reject his message when they understand what it actually means. His core constituency is the kids working at Planet K, NORML activists, professional contrarians and your friendly neighborhood dope dealer.
Robert Morrow says:
Go to Intrade. Because of his appeal to independents, Ron Paul is 3rd most likely individual to be elected president.
Much of the Republican party wants to ignore the fact that Ron Paul does VERY well with independent voters. I am not just shilling when I say that. It is true.
GOP – I suggest nominating Ron Paul and going with liberty and anti-war.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventClassId=19
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anita Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am
PLEASE nominate Ron Paul — I bet he’d lose 40+ states to Obama. Let him explain his “liberty” agenda of summarily releasing violent drug dealers on the streets, his frank appeasement of violent terrorists and how they’re right for hating America — we’re to blame, according to Paul. Let him fully explain why America is right to be hated around the globe, and how we should abandon all of our strategic partners and outposts across the globe. He may take Vermont, perhaps Maine. That’s about it.
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Robert Morrow Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Ron Paul would do just fine in a general election. The Republicans and Democrat hacks have done such a fine job of discrediting themselves in the eyes of the American voter. What a bunch of lies you spew – Ron Paul is not for releasing violent criminals; he is for not locking up millions for drug use or drug possession.
I will tell you who is being appeased – the neocons and the military industrial/imperialism ccmplex as represented by the Bush/Clinton establishments of both political parties. Ron Paul will end that appeasement.
There is a very good reason America is hated around the globe and its because we insist on telling other counties by force how to run their business and because we are constanting manipulating the political processes of other countries both overtly and covertly.
Without question – NONE – Ron Paul is the most popular candidate running for president in the eyes of the world. A Ron Paul election would engender the goodwill of billions of people worldwide and you can put a price tag on that.
Only the Zionists would be sulking because they could not longer use the USA as their personal army.
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anita Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Last I checked, our President takes an oath to preserve and defend the U.S. Constitution — not to be the most popular person in the eyes of the world. And the reference to “Zionists” speaks for itself. I take back my earlier prediction — with positions like this, Vermont my be in play but Maine is lost.
Reminder says:
Romney is 3rd- but expected to be the nominee? Perry is fourth- but is expected to go nowhere? And Ron Paul? Even if he wins Iowa, he is toast for the long haul. And all of this is for not, if Trump runs as an independent. All of the above math = 4 more years of Obama.
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JohnBernardBooks says:
so Perry/Gingrich is on the ballot in Va, no big deal. Obama didn’t get on the ballot in Ind and all it took was a few forged signatures and its done.
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Theresa Reply:
December 24th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Idiot.
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JohnBernardBooks says:
There is no election fraud shout the useful idiots,
“The allegations that election fraud touched a race for the greatest business office in the land are at the middle of an investigation by St. Joseph County Legal professional Michael Dvorak. He would not remark, but resources say the probe is gaining steam as prosecutors delve into the petitions that sailed by way of the St. Joseph County Voter Registration Board, situated in South Bend. There have been studies that as numerous as seven men and women may have been involved in an alleged conspiracy to fake the petitions.”
http://integratednews.com/1086/did-fake-signatures-get-obama-on-indiana-ballot.html
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Robert Morrow says:
Either Santorum or Bachmann is going to beat Perry. I don’t see how Perry does better than 5th place, possibly 6th.
Whatever poll numbers you see for Ron Paul *before* the caucuses or NH primary, he will get more delegates/voters than that when the vote occurs.
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JohnBernardBooks Reply:
December 25th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Robert you think Perry is gay, why would anyone think your judgement is suspect?
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Robert Morrow Reply:
December 25th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
JBB, how does that have anything to do with picking who wins or performs well?
Here is my prediction for the Iowa caucuses:
1) Paul
2) Romney
3) Gingrich
4) Santorum
5) Bachmann
6) Perry
Let’s have *your* predictions and see who has credibility in one week.
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Robert Morrow Reply:
December 25th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
I also predict Ron Paul will be on the cover of the Texas Monthly February issue, which is out in January 2012.
JohnBernardBooks Reply:
December 26th, 2011 at 6:29 am
my predictions are the same, you were a kook last week and you will be a kook this week.
St. Paulie's Girl says:
Can’t wait to see Ron Paul beat Perry in the Texas primary. And when he does, hopefully that will be the final straw that causes a bunch of Perry’s (former) top supporters to tell Perry that he needs to go away (from the governorship, at least), once and for all. Texas has had enough of him.
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