The Nuge vs. The Waco Trib
Just got a missive — unguided missile? — from my pal Ted Nugent saying he’s been fired by the Waco Tribune-Herald, which has new owners as of a couple of weeks ago. I’ve contacted Carlos Sanchez, the editor of the Trib, and asked for his response, which I’ll post below when I receive it. (For now, click here to read his comments as published in the paper today.)
Nugent’s email to me:
Just been fired from Waco Trib. Now they will have to rely on their other New York Times Best Sellers, and array of clever and diverse journalists to convey their diverse & tolerant point(s) of view. Here’s my Teditorial after being told to not criticize in my Sunday features that they chose to not run.
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I’ll Take Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press for $100, Alex by Ted Nugent
When the Nazis had the Americans surrounded in the town of Bastogne, they
demanded American General McAuliffe surrender or they would level the
city. General McAuliffe’s reply: Nuts!The new editor of the Waco Trib recently told me that I could only write nice
things about people, that I could not be critical. Basically, that I
need to tone it down. I can not, nor will not, comply with this Romper
Room request. My reply: Nuts!The editor is wrong to try and muzzle my opinions.
As a columnist, I express my opinions. That’s what columnists do. That’s
also the charge of an independent and free press.The job of the press is to be the “fourth” arm of government. To
intentionally muzzle itself is to fail at its most basic watchdog
responsibility. As readers, voters and citizens we should demand a
watchdog press, not a lapdog press.I can’t envision Thomas Jefferson, George Washington or Ben Franklin
making a request of an anti-King George columnist to tone it down. I
can’t imagine Martin Luther King toning down his message. It is
impossible for me to fathom any American to tone down what is in his
heart and soul.I criticize where I believe criticism is due. That’s what Thomas Paine
did when he published Common Sense prior to the Revolutionary War. He
criticized King George for his heavy handed and wrong policies. We are
free in large part because of Thomas Paine’s open, routine and strident
criticism.I have criticized President Obama and liberals for what I consider to be
destructive, anti-American policies that will hurt our economy and harm
your health. Not once have I criticized him personally because I have
never met the man. As far as I know he is a decent enough guy, but in my
opinion, is politically naive and very wrong, even dangerous for America. So do many
other Americans as indicated by the shrinking support for his takeover
of the health care system and numerous other heavy handed, foolish moves.Obama’s policies are bankrupting America. He supports a health care bill
that he hasn’t even read, nor have those in congress who support it.
If that doesn’t deserve massive amount of criticism, what does?When I have criticized President Obama, I have almost always countered
his dunderheaded, Marxist policies with a free market, more personal
freedom alternative. More government control is not the answer to what
ails America. Obama believes otherwise.This newspaper and others should encourage spirited and lively debate
and criticism, especially when so many newspapers are losing
subscribers. I don’t support milquetoast journalism. It bores me.You are free to disagree with my opinions. In fact, I encourage those of
you who do to fill the letters to the editor page of this newspaper. I
revel in open debate. That’s the America I know and love. Express
yourself, Texas. Lay it on the line. Give it your best shot. Be bold in
your disagreement.Construcitve, bold criticism is cool. It rocks. It can literally change the course and destiny of an individual, neighborhood, community, and nation. It is the most basic of our Constitutional rights — the 1st Amendment. Failing to criticize emboldens politicians to stay on course regardless how many icebergs are dead ahead. Political correctness is the cancer of journalism, not its cure.
America and Texas was born with a defiant streak. Those genes still flow
through my veins. To request that I not criticize is to spit on the
memory of those who gave birth to America. Again, I criticize where I
believe criticism is due. That’s my civic job and your job as Americans.
If the editor of this newspaper doesn’t like that, he will have to fire
me. I will not surrender to his wrong demands.In the words of another famous American military man, William Barrett
Travis, commander of the Alamo: God & Texas. Victory or death.
Centex Liberal says:
When a writer starts out comparing his boss to the Nazis and himself to George Washington ( and Jefferson, Franklin, and Paine!), hyperbole is the order of the day. Then he gives the ultimate adolescent criticism:”It bores me.” And finally, we have the Alamo, facing victory or death. Sounds like the rantings of a slightly educated teenager.
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Pat Reply:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
A slightly educated teenager with lots of guns.
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John Hoffman Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Ted Nugent’s biggest mistake ever was saying anything after he finished playing his guitar. I love his music, but the man is an idiot. Is he even allowed to play music any more? I kinda lost interest after Wango Tango.
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The Rude Bellman Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
What the editors discovered is that none of Ted’s fans know how to read.
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Prince Royal says:
Do teenagers have electric guitars?
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E Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
No, today’s teens can’t be bothered to learn something like that, so they just pretend with games like Guitar Hero and Rock Star, each of which cost about as much as a starter guitar & amp.
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BiffFromDover Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Yeah, but ya olly have to learn 5 color keys.
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Charles Kuffner says:
Oh, boo hoo hoo for Ted. If he hasn’t figured out by now that freedom of speech does not equate to an obligation on anyone’s part to provide a platform, much less a paycheck, to him, then he should have been fired years ago. All I see here is big ol’ macho Ted whining about what a victim he is.
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Dave says:
Hey, Ted, welcome to real world journalism, where being a celebrities counts for squat and freedom of press is just another phrase for “what do you want me to do today to keep from getting fired.” What a spoiled brat you are. Go play with your guns.
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Gringo Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Y’all can say what you want about ‘ol Ted, he can take it. I will say he not only has an opinion he also has a backbone. A spine that allows him to stand erect and not cower to the demands that he stop his criticism of the policies and agenda of the current administration.
Ted come on over to Dprogram, you can write an article for us anytime.
“Son, let me explain something to you. You don’t poke a wolverine with a sharp stick unless you want your balls ripped off.” — Grandpa Vanderboegh’s Rule of Life #32.
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Former Republican, still a conservative Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
That is rich! Nugent, who famously claimed to have crapped his pants for a week to get out of being drafted, and who became the “guardian” of an 17 year old girl when he was 31, seemed to have decided that since his musical talent was mediocre, he might as well run his mouth for shock value.
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fashionofchrist Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:36 am
A backbone? really? ted nugent was/is a draft-dodging chickenhawk…
do you have any idea of the great lengths he went to to stay out of the military? and then he quotes real warriors, as though he’d know anything about them? as though they wouldn’t spit in his face for being a spineless loser? really? wow…
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Sliderossian Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Why is it that a person who refuses to work with the powers that be is looked as a patriot these days? A few months ago, you would be called a traitor if you simply wore a t-shirt that criticized the president.
Ted Nugent is a misogynist jingoistic simplistic clown. He is a great poster boy for today’s Republican party.
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MMM MMM MMM Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Liberals won’t argue the issues of what is going on in politics, so they call you names, like racist, and all those Impressive Words you used wow! You must be really smart!
I respect Ted for standing up for what he believes in. So, forget trying to Argue with Idiots.
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Voice of Reason says:
This, coming from the literary brilliance that produced “Wang, Dang, Sweet Poontang.”
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colleenfle says:
Ted. I’m a journalist. I’m sad to see the Waco paper’s move. You’re right: timid journalism with editors living in fear is NOT the way to sell papers, or do good journalism.
You’re seeing why the newspaper industry is failing, why many of us fighting the good fight are getting discouraged.
The newspaper industry used to have a monopoly so it didn’t need great stuff, just inoffensive just in the world of corporate journalism so as not to alienate advertisers and readers.
Few newspaper managers realize that content is king now, not advertising.
If I lived in Waco, I would have checked out your column every time it ran, even if I didn’t agree or it made me mad. At least you were brave enough to have an opinion. What you did IS journalism. What your editors did is not, and, if this is any consolation, they probably know it.
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joeyess Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 3:55 am
No. What he did was not journalism. What he was doing was opinion.
There’s a difference.
Goddamn. A good portion of this country’s citizens are just dumb as a mop.
Yep. I’m looking at you, colleenfle.
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Rob C. Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:24 am
If you defend Ted Nugent’s demented and pathologically biased rantings as journalism, then you know nothing about journalism and there is no way in hell that you are a journalist (and, no, occasional posting to your favorite blogs do not count)
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frank Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
As a journalist myself–one who has won multiple awards for my work–I’d have to say that if you believe what you posted, sorry, you must not be a very good journalist.
You are correct in your statements about timid editors and advertising, but if you defend Ted’s fact-free ranting as journalism, I am sorry, but you just don’t know what journalism is.
That’s another part of the reason newspapers are going down the tubes–journalists that don’t seem to know or understand journalism.
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H.T. Katt says:
What a lot of blather. I’d fire him, too – not because he won’t write “happy news,” but because it’s just so much broad-brushed drivel. I wouldn’t really care how he comes down on political issues, but I’d want something to back them up. You know, facts, specifics, things like that. Oddly enough, a big name like his might sell papers. But hearing the same diatribes over and over again gets boring.
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freeta goodholm says:
Waco has a newspaper?
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Kim du Toit Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Not for long, if the trend is anything to go by.
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Kevin says:
Liberals will do anything to stop a conservative opinion, which is funny cause they are the one’s claiming the 1st ammendment and at the same time trying to get rid of the 2nd ammendment. Why is the 1st ammendment gold but not the 2nd? Liberals need to go back to Russia (then again it was Russia’s Putin that gave Obama the message not to go communist) That is pretty bad when u have an ex-communist country trying to tell us not to do it.
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openminded Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Nugent was not fired by “Liberals”. Where do you get that from. The Waco Trib is own by one of the most “Right Wing” conservative “Holier Than Thou” couples that ever walked the earth. The Trib is not a liberal paper by any means. The new owners probably found out that Nugent was bad for business. His remarks are ridiculous and without substance. Sooner or later you need to be able to back up your words with data instead of just frivolous writing. I’m sure many advertisers were dropping ad space because of his remarks.
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Rob C. Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Screaming louder than everyone else in the room is not opinion. But that, unfortunately, is what passes for conservative opinion and dogma these days. The truth is, conservative opinion does not exist anymore. The days of Buckley and Goldwater are long gone, replaced by the Ted Nugents of today, filled with stupidity, pompous self regard, willful ignorance and a crazed jingoism that bullies around as patriotism’s sad doppelganger.
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Mary Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Kevin, that’s AMENDMENT. If you’re going to talk about something so important, learn how to spell it.
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drummer says:
Obamanites are really dicksuckers are’nt they?
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openminded Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
drummer, you need to do something with your life. Your comments are useless.
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The Rude Bellman Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Didn’t your mama support Obama?
I’d ask her but her mouth is full at the moment
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fashionofchrist Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:41 am
the rude bellman:
a perfect example of a reader of nugent’s drivel.
a perfect example of why the US needs education reform.
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Rob C. Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Rude Bellman
Your insightful commentary continues to justify Ted Nugent’s dismissal.
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Flackman Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 7:06 am
A wonderful piece of commentary from a 22 percenter.
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Mary Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
And you kiss your mother with that mouth?
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frank Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
And sadly, for far too many on the right, that passes for substantive, insightful commentary these days. He probably thought he was adding something useful to the debate.
Tell you what–when you sue the education system for failing you so badly and completely, feel free to call on me as a material witness.
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pacific_waters says:
Nugent is sometimes a bit much for me but he is always a champion of what American values once were, independence and being self reliant. Of course a newspaper can run who it wants and change its editorial stance but doesn’t it annoy you who think Nugent is a petulant teenager, just the least amount, that the newspaper is asking to say anything unless he can say something nice. You don’t find that boring?
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rc Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 7:51 am
So American values is crapping your pants for a week or two before your draft examination? When it was Ted’s turn to do the right thing, he ran like a scared bunny, leaving the others to fight and die for America.Now he’s all for any war as long as he don’t have to attend,. Typical republican if ever I’ve seen one.
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BobKasp Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Self reliant?!? Does that mean he made his own ExLax?
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pacific_waters says:
Nugent is sometimes a bit much for me but he is always a champion of what American values once were, independence and being self reliant. Of course a newspaper can run who it wants and change its editorial stance but doesn’t it annoy you who think Nugent is a petulant teenager, just the least amount, that the newspaper is asking to not say anything unless he can say something nice. You don’t find that boring and pollyannish?
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R.T. Thaddeus Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 9:37 am
The “American” values of independence and self-reliance are, and were, largely a myth. This country was built by cooperative toil, organized and dedicated warriors who helped each other and a government that throughout the 19th Century supported and boosted industry. Sometimes through massive giveaways (think the Railroads who were given millions of acres of land by the Fed Govt). Conservative mythology insists on perpetuating this myth of “self reliance” and so many people in this country, especially in the South, are so poorly educated and ignorant of true American history they believe this shit. That helps explain why seniors demand that the “government keep its hands off my Medicare.” A population that abysmally ignorant is easily manipulated by the Conservative elite that really controls this nation.
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KansasGirl says:
Another voice silenced. This is America, right?
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not ted Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
jeez, he can get a blog. “Another voice silenced”. Please. Get a clue. He’s not silenced. He’s just not published in the Trib.
Anyone can publish, and anyone can read, any blog that is public.
America.
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Harry Haller says:
Couldn’t your format this to take the original line breaks out of it? It’s really hard to read.
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treehugger says:
Ted can write? Who knew? He’ll get more publicity for them dropping him than he’d ever get for his writing on its own merits, IMO. If not, well, shoot.
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Drew says:
Nugent wrote: Obama’s policies are bankrupting America. He supports a health care bill
that he hasn’t even read, nor have those in congress who support it.
Perhaps because a bill hasn’t been written.
Stick with a blog or write letters to the editor
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Michelle Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
That is because America knows how the congress works. Once the bill is written it will be to late.
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JohnK says:
It is sad that Ted did not feel that he could express his opinions without criticizing others.
Sad…but also proof he’s a poor communicator.
Funny but a song like “Coming of Age” communicated Ted’s philosphy very well without ripping someone else. I guess writing music is easier than bein’ a columnist.
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fan of newspapers says:
I wouldn’t read a newspaper that corrals its writers like that or write for one, either.
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Txbowhunter says:
I’m sure the free market will work out this whole problem. If Nugent’s column is has added value to the printed word, I’m sure it will get printed, he’ll get paid and I bet some company will give him full healthcare coverage just because that company wants to do the right thing without government interference.
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flyingtiger says:
When Mr. Nugent was called up for the military draft, he didn’t wash for a week and had poop in his pants. I am not making this up! Since then he he has create an image of mr. tough guy hunter. Ted, you had your chance to prove you were a man, instead you pooped in your pants. I can think of at least 50 people I would consider a better musian than you. The Great Kat alone is more of a man than you will ever be.
Here is the midwest, we consider Nugent a clown.
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Michelle Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Not so much. Listened to Ted on my local radio station Q95 in INDY last week and was totally reinvigorated. Ted is right and he rocks!
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just-a-guy Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 12:33 am
You’re “reinvigorated” by this guy?
Does it invigorate you that his biggest song “Stranglehold” is about him beating the shit out of a woman?
I’ll bet you do think he’s right. Good for you! You certainly help promote the status of all women that way. Be proud.
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fashionofchrist Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Michelle:
yep. Ted “1 chord” Nugent. Ted “if you’ve heard one song of mine, you’ve heard them all” Nugent.
musical taste says a lot about someone, regardless of genre.
Neil Young he is not.
hell, Lynyrd Skynyrd he is not, and I don’t even like southern rock.
if you actually played any music (cover bands don’t count) you’d know what I meant. Sadly, you don’t.
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King George says:
flyingtiger got to give the facts about your post “…didn’t wash for a week…”, where did you ever hear, read or interpret such. Also I am from the West, the only West, West texas and I find a musician who has never gotten high or drunk pretty refreshing compared to Jimi and Janis who are dead gagged on thier own vomit but not Ted he still has a brain unfried from excess and capable of speaking for a lot of us good old redneck boys.
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Former Republican, still a conservative Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:13 am
“In the December 15, 1990 issue of the Detroit Free Press Magazine, Nugent was quoted as saying that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. “… but if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d killed all the hippies in the foxholes…I would have killed everybody.”
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Twisted_Colour Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
“never gotten high or drunk”
Ha! And Britney Spears is a virgin.
“good old redneck boys” read – angry racists thugs.
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frank Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
King George said:”flyingtiger got to give the facts about your post “…didn’t wash for a week…”, where did you ever hear, read or interpret such….”
I first read it in an interview he did for High Times magazines. He continually referred to himself as “Young Ted” and seemed very proud of having dodged the draft.
Of course, that interview was done in the 70’s at a time when the entire country had come to realize what a mistake the disaster in Viet Nam always was.
In the meantime, Ted’s swung around to the political expedience of supporting our latest foreign policy mistakes and disasters. Apparently, it’s okay for other people’s kids to get shipped off and die, but not for “Young Ted.”
Oh, one more thing: as for musicians that never did drugs? In that same interview, Nugent said that in addition to defecating in his pants for a week, “Young Ted” also did speed for that week so he’d be wired when he showed up for his induction physical.
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King George says:
drew there are four out there and none have been read but are still going to get accepted unless someone stands up and says back up your BS Savior read what you promisedt give us transpanency.
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BobKasp Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 8:14 am
1. Learn to spell.
2. Learn grammar.
3. Learn punctuation.
4. Study logic.
5. Go back and get your GED.
6. Don’t smoke weed before posting.
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King George says:
john k do you mean like anyone writing in the HuffPo or heard on MSNBC where if you don’t like someone you call them racists, nazis? I thought not you liberals are not that bigotted.
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king george is a liar Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
i’d like to see an example of this. every single writer on huffington post has called someone they disagree with a nazi and a racist? wow, you really do need to reach for excuses to remain ignorant. i hate huffington post and haven’t read it for probably a year now but you know that’s blatant white washing and a lie, things that you would scream at a liberal for doing yet you do yourself.
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King George says:
katt an editorial writer does not need facts ever read Pitts, Keillor, anyone on HuffPo? Or do facts not belong to the liberal morons only us stupid racists, nazi gun toting bible thumpers?
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not ted Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
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Blaze Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Brother George,
I bet you are a fan of Glenn Beck. Nuff said.
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John West says:
The Nuge is the man. He tells the truth and speaks for tens of millions of repressed freedom lovers.
You can fire him, but his message will continue to ring and reverberate as long there are those who are willing to resist the lure of the slave masters.
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BobKasp Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 8:17 am
I assume you mean sexually repressed. Just open the closet door…
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Rusty says:
After Taurus Int’l awarded Ted a “Defender Of Freedom” award and called him a true “patriot,” I guess Nugent started to believe he actually has put his life on the line in armed combat — otherwise I can’t see how he’d so boldly compare his situation to the Battle Of The Bulge. This is more on par with something that happened in my high school.
Speaking of high school, even his view of our forefathers is skewed, or perhaps his teachers never told him about the Alien & Sedition Acts.
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Cowboy Dick says:
Perhaps Nugent means the new owners or publishers of the Trib. Sanchez, the editor, has been there five-six years maybe? That was even before Nugent started writing his worthless trash that passes for conservative commentary. I didn’t like the Robisons showing how holy they are by sticking “In God We Trust” on the Trib banner. But I like this moved. The Robinsons are 1-1.
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rembrandt says:
Nugent is a moron so good riddance — sadly, almost half the country, i.e. Republicans, are as dumb as he is
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daryl says:
Sanchez says in his article:
“So I was astonished to find out that Nugent had posted a note for fans on his Web site:
“So I get this spineless, soulless anti-American Email from Carlos Sanchez, new editor of Waco Tribune, listing new rules for my weekly Sunday feature telling me I cant (sic) criticize anyone, only recommend things, can’t have any negativity, only cute nicyness.”
He beseeches his fans to “HIT EM & HIT EM HARD!!”
A link verifying what he accused the man of saying would be nice, not that I don’t believe him, understand. It’s just that I searched Nugent’s site and didn’t find anything sounding remotely like what Sanchez quoted him as saying. As a matter of fact I found not a word mentioning Sanchez. Was this just hear-say or did Sanchez actually see that Nuge had badmouthed him like he wrote in the article.
If he was dissatisfied with Nugent in any way he had every right to fire him but not quoting hearsay in the “butter doesn’t even melt in my mouth” wording in a damned newsarticle article. Fire the man face to face.
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Natasha says:
Hmmm…sad day when people spit on freedom of speech. Funny how for the past 8 years, those on the left referred to Bush as Hitler, yet nobody on the left whined and said “Don’t be so critical.” But heaven forbid anybody speak out against the policies of Obama’s government.
As Ted said:
“The job of the press is to be the ‘fourth’ arm of government. To intentionally muzzle itself is to fail at its most basic watchdog responsibility. As readers, voters and citizens we should demand a watchdog press, not a lapdog press.”
Unfortunately, the MSM is pretty much made up of a bunch of lapdogs, with A(ll) B(arack) C(hannel) leading the pack.
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Twisted_Colour Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
“freedom of speech”
Freedom of speech does not guarantee you a job or protect the job you have, especially if you are a hyperbolic bloviator.
You need to go back to civics class.
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not ted Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Fox News is an ADMITTED arm of the right wing. People wearing T-shirts even remotely critical of Bush were banned from attending so-called public events, much like the events in Hitler’s Germany.
It was the right wing cable news channels like Fox that criticized the war protesters constantly and viciously. But that’s OK because Fox is opinion(disguised as news).
There were hundreds of thousands of war protesters that turned out time after time, in numerous big cities.
The recent lame tea bag affairs turned out 30 to 100 people in most cities. Yawn.
Freedom of speech. That’s what the Trib is practicing by booting Ted.
Please try to learn to reason and think critically. Your country needs you.
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Ernest Tee Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Actually Jon Stewart took people to the woodshed for using Hitler analogies. So I guess you don’t know what you’re talking about just like your “war hero” Ted the chickenhawk.
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Doug says:
IF you haven’t read Nugent’s column, be careful about your comments. Regardless of your perspective or views, it was just plain bad writing. he did an awful job trying to make a point and spent most of his columns calling people names or bragging about himself. It was hard to read and embarassing.
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BU_Bear says:
Kudos Carlos and the Waco Trib! Nugent is a disgrace to the Waco community, the Trib is way better without him!
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Cowboy Dick says:
Your admitting being a “pal” to Ted Nugent, not in the least name-dropping, is one of several reasons I am not unhappy to see you go as editor of TM. I saw you at a journalism forum in Austin not long after you took over. You made it clear that you wanted to mold Texas Monthly into the cookie cutter New York style of magazine. That is largely what you have done. While TM has received some national acclaim, it lost much credibility as a Texas publication. Part of the reason was Paul Burka whoring himself out as a George W. expert among Talkingheaddom. But you, specifically, have spread the curse of celebrity to envelope what was once — for years — was cultural lens of the Lone Star State. Your magazine has become Austincentric, Metrocentric and NewYorkcentric. I hope — if Paul Burka isn’t the new head honcho — that whomever takes over will put the TEXAS back into Texas Monthly. As for the Waco Trib getting rid of Ted Nugent. I feel like the Robinsons are 1-1. The put “In God We Trust” on their banner and fired this idiot who doesn’t know the difference between an editor and an owner. Carlos Sanchez isn’t the new editor. He’s been there for at least 4-5 years, before this moron rock star started writing. Sanchez was an editor for the still Cox publication the Austin American Statesman before he came to Waco. Waco is much worse off for Cox selling the paper. Sanchez? Whatever. He is insignificant.
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Cowboy Dick says:
Yeah. I made errors in the above. So sue me you ignorant rednecks.
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Wolf says:
I find it amazing that most of you Nugent supporters are the ones who enjoyed eight years of silencing democrats and liberals and labeling them as un-American and going out of your way to keep it so. Now one of your own has been ’silenced’, and you guys are crying foul and no fair.
All I am hearing is bullcrap from a bunch of whinybutts who can’t take what they’ve dished out to everyone else!
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alexcutter says:
Here’s your hero, you stupid crackers. Hid out at a community college instead of going to VN:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/ted-nugent-off-his-rocker-479556.html
“But you did dodge the draft.” “I had a 1Y [student deferment]. I enrolled at Oakland Community College.”
“You said then that you wanted ‘to teach the stupid bastards in the military a lesson’. I’d have thought you’d have loved the army. Guns. Travel. Danger.” “Back then, I didn’t even understand what World War II was.”
“So basically,” – I admit that I have, unaccountably, started to speak Nugent – “you didn’t want to get your Michigan ass blown off in Vietnam.” “Correct. I did not want to get my ass blown off in Vietnam.”
“I know you do a lot of charity work for wounded veterans. Has it occurred to you that someone else may have died in Saigon because you didn’t go?”
“Absolutely.”
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Gordon Hill says:
cat scratch sniveler…This guy had one pathetic song and a thong…
he deserves nothing…
the only good thing he did was take a stand against immoral war…
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Anonymous says:
I’ve met Ted a number of times. He’s every bit as bright as his “writing” would suggest.
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ken kuzma Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Ted just proved he is “wack-co” just keep him down there in Texas, We didn’t want him in Michigan because he always thought he was better then anyone else.
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An Observer says:
Just finished the Nuge’s column as well as most of the comments, and am writing as a Wacoan; though I cancelled my subscription to the local “rag” several months back. And while I don’t agree with everything Ted writes; often enough he gets it correct, IMHO. When Molly Ivins column was published; though it drove me nuts, I respected her right to be published likewise.
But sadly “Six Shooter Junction” has never been a mecca of free speech. Don’t believe that, research Wm. Cowper Brann (The Iconoclast) and what happened to his right to his opinion. So all we have here in Waco is “same song – different verse”.
I do take one exception to Ted’s Teditorial above though. The most basic of our Constitutional Rights is found in the Second Amendment, not the First.
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Joe College says:
Mr. Nugent, like most demagogues, likes to hide behind half-baked notions of what freedom of speech entitles one to- It does not allow you to shout, Fire! in a crowded theatre. But I suspect that’s not the issue here- the fact is that much like his previous career, he’s not a very good writer-he strings together cliches that he presumes are facts and fails to substantiate his wild-eyed accusations-not unlike another loudmoth from way up North. Calling the duly elected POTUS a Marxist is beyond ignorant- it’s just plain stupid and that’s what his problem is. He was a dumb musician and an even dumber writer.
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Michigan Guy says:
What you weak-kneed and limp-wristed liberals fail to distinguish is the difference between the sheep and the patriotic with backbone, shame on you Texans, you’re becoming wimps and unwilling to listen to anything other than your opinion or things that make you “feel good” just like the rest of the country, and I expected more from you.
Freedom isn’t free or easy.
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Twisted_Colour Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Moron.
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Jilli Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Really? Where was his supposed “backbone” when he was running away from viet nam? He’s a shameless hack that took the easy way out. He’s no patriot, he’s a weasel.
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Michigan Guy says:
Open your eyes Joe College or your future is bleak, POTUS is NOT verified as being qualified for the job, yet he occupies the office.
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Twisted_Colour Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Double dipped moron.
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CJ says:
Writing a column for the Waco Trib: $100
New laptop after destroying the old one with the crowbar of truth: $1000
Making the new liberal nicey-nice owners squirm while getting national publicity: Priceless
Keep up the good work Ted.
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KillemandGrillem' says:
Ok. If Teddy boy likes the first amendment than he will love this. Hey Nuge!! Stop fucking whining and go fuck off somewhere. And don’t be afraid to have an accidental gun discharge in that big fucking mouth of yours. Likes to dish it out but can’t take.Too fucking Bad,asshole.
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JC says:
Obama and Congress are bankrupting the country, trying to grow government in ugly if not scary ways, the rude, snide Al Franken is elected to United States Senate, Speaker Pelosi spews bitter nastiness nearly weekly and a Texas newspaper fires Nugent for being too “critical” of it all.
Stop the merry-go-round, I’d like to get off before I throw up.
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JoeT63 Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Ahhhh the wonderfully rich irony.
“Bush and Congress crapping on the Constitution at every turn in ugly if now scary ways. The rude, snide Dick Cheney always shooting people. Tom ‘Bug-Zapper’ Delay spews bitter nastiness nearly DAILY. And a nation’s radio stations stop playing the Dixie Chicks for being too “critical” of it all.
Stop the merry-go-round. I may throw up from laughing so hard.
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Brimstone says:
Every company has the right to decide what does or does not ‘fit’ into their public stance. But in this age of cookie cutter journalism and media ‘controlled’ news stories. (MSNBC, CNN, ABC) why would anyone want to experience yet another editorial from a controlled source.
I read articles to experience different views and am able to then develop my own opinions or stance from these. Without differing outlooks nothing can ever change. If what you want to here is what you already believe, save yourself the trouble and money and just send yourself an email everyday. I am not a die hard fan of Ted nor do I agree with everything I read. How boring would that be if I did.
Ted can send anything he wishes to our studio and, if it has any interest for our readers, we will publish it.
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Arn Gunnutes Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Why don’t YOU publish an “article” about what Ted did to avoid Vietnam?
Or is TRUTH something that you, like George W. Bush the AWOL coward WAR CRIMINAL,
MUST NOT LET SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY, for it will expose you as HYPOCRITE PROPAGANDA??
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Jason says:
Like it or not Uncle Ted has his opinions and voices them in a way that upsets a lot of people.
Shining a light on the idiocy of liberalism…
For this he will always be welcome around my campfire…
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Arn Gunnutes Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 8:19 am
So, did YOU crap your pants to avoid Vietnam like Ted??
Then sing “kill-by-ya” around the “campfire” with your “uncle” ted?
Just don’t tell mommy!!
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Jilli Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:28 am
I think his screeds shine the light on conservative neanderthalism. He does no harm to liberalism, but he does harm the conservative/libertarian cause with his delusional rants.
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bosque bill says:
Enough of all this. Ted’s firing had nothing to do with the First Amendment. It had everything to do with a polite request from the Trib’s very conservative owners that he show at least some civility in political discourse and that he show some respect for others, regardless of political viewpoints. Ted told his bosses he would be happy to do so, then turned around and lambasted them behind their very backs on his blog, which where I come from in Texas is the absolute height of cowardice and hypocrisy. This has to do with professionalism in journalism and the lack of it by some. This has to do with duplicity. This has to do with Ted’s being a blowhard but not much of a man.
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DB Michigan says:
There is a saying in NugeWorld…
“No Nuge in the news is bad news.’
Its corollary is
“Any Nuge News in the News is Good News”
Its been a few months since Nugent has made any bold AMERICAN PATRIOT comments that cause the media to come running like Pavlovian Canines (hey kids, remember his NRA convention rant several years ago where he proclaimed that law breakers should be shot dead, no jury, no judge, no trial… I want em dead” ??)
Its like clockwork… when the Nugebuzz gets low on batteries, he energizes the situation with his unique style of Pied Piper shepherdry.
Congrats Theo.. you made news again…. too bad you can’t recognize it makes you look like an idiot to people that were lucky enough to be blessed with a rational brain.
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Jess Wonderin says:
Poor TEDDY . . .
Years of loud music and cheap drugs have left him without a working brain . . . I wrote this wanker chickenhawk OFF years ago when it was apparent he loves “America” but lacks the courage to DEFEND IT!
His opinion of his “greatness” is pathetic drivel . . . wasn’t noted and won’t be missed.
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margoharris says:
Ted Nugent is a draft dodging asshole who is just a has been who is intellectually incapable of reasonable and honest discourse. Who cares what he has to say all he is doing is preaching to the choir, stirring-up racial and political unrest with the rest of the worthless herd who don’t know what the hell they are talking about.
dickheads all
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Mike Flagg says:
Jesus on a crutch, this guy is a blowhard baffoon.
As a rock & roll performer, he was right up there with Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods and The Archies.
As a pundit, he rates on the level of Emily Litella. He knows little of what he speaks,and shouts and bullies the little that he knows.
Such unbalanced individuals should not posess firearms for the safety of the public, and should not posess instruments and amplifiers for the peace of the public.
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jack neoff says:
teds a whining bitch. without his guns he just a pussy.
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Greytdog says:
Ted who?
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Klondike says:
Ted Nugent isn’t a patriot – he’s a fake-riot. He’s an embarrassment on sooooo many levels.
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William Crane says:
Fuq Texas.
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George Hayduke says:
Huh. I kinda thought Ted Nugent and Waco deserved each other. Like the whackjob Branch Davidians and Waco deserved each other. Typical chickenhawk too. Avoids the draft and then surrounds himself with guns to make up for the lack of firepower between his legs. Perfect NRA poster boy–just like Larry Craig was.
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David says:
To quote another conservative celebrity, Craig T. Nelson.
‘Where was government when I was on welfare and food stamps?’
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Yet Another Michigander says:
Teddy is a great rock and roll guitar player and songwriter. But why on earth would anyone care what he says? He’s not exactly an “intellectual” or even “smart” …
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Lenny Pincus says:
Ted Nugent has always dealt in the LCD. Horrid “music” and caveman public persona; draft-dodging hypocrite of the first order; claim of American “values” consisting of rampant sex and massive drug use. Now, he compares himself to the Founding Fathers, ironically unaware of Jefferson’s use of the media to mangle the truth. And the Alamo? Given Nugent’s history of personal cowardice, he would have been skedaddling somewhere way east of the Sabine Pass when Houston and his men gained eternal glory at San Jacinto.
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william garrison says:
Hey Uncle Ted! FoxNews could use a new commentator who can elucidate the conservative viewpoint. You may be down, but you are certainly not out. Keep up the good work.
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Blame America says:
Ted had more than one good tune, although ‘free for all’ was by far the best. And then he was in a band with the dude from Night Ranger, I believe. That should’ve sealed it.
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radiocitizen says:
Ted Nugent, you are a violent, hypocritical “man”.
Go join Orally, Beck and all those other monumental, uneducated, uncivilised hypocrites!
Did you criticise Bush when he was in power? Does the thought of 1,500,000 dead Iraqis make you stop and think? Of course not! They’re only towel-heads after all, ay Ted?
You march ahead with all the assuredness of a sleepwalker…
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Ted is a cunt says:
I’ll take ‘Ignorant cunts for $200′ Alex!
Alex: Name the yankee fuck-stick who unsuccessfully lobbied the Ontario govenment to continue the spring bear hunt? Hint: he’s a no talent cunt from Detroit Mi.
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oh really says:
Ted, I’m sure you can “write” for RedState. You’ll fit right in. Hell, they’ll probably worship you and all your guns.
And don’t forget to brag about that military record — they love that stuff at RedState.
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chris says:
haha he just got fired for too many grammatical errors. haha call the whambulance.
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Philip says:
It’s a shame someone so fond of dropping the names of the founding fathers understands so little about the Constitution. Government did nothing to muzzle Ted or the newspaper. He refused to comply with his employer and now he doesn’t work for them anymore. No impingement on the freedom of speech or the press here.
Just another wannabe GOP martyr.
Maybe he could go on Michael Savage’s show and they can commiserate on how oppressed they are.
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John says:
Ted, the first amendment only protects you from government censorship. Your boss can still fire you for whatever he wants. It would be nice if people like yourself and Sarah Palin actually read the constituation you spend so much time whining about Obama destroying before you open your mouth.
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Winston says:
Ted? Waco? Texas? Bwahaha! I’ll take “Three things that no one else in the world gives a $hit about for $100, Alex”.
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Anonymous says:
Some of you really need to sit down and read a book and figure out what exactly the 1st Amendment is.
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Anonymous says:
Ah, John beat me to it a couple of messages up. But seriously, still go read about it and understand it. It won’t bite I promise.
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Wuzupdawk says:
I love this part:
[about Obama] “Not once have I criticized him personally because I have
never met the man.”
Next sentence: “…but in my
opinion, is politically naive and very wrong, even dangerous for America.”
A little further down:
“If that doesn’t deserve massive amount of criticism, what does?”
And finally:
“When I have criticized President Obama…”
So which is it, Teddy? Do you criticize the President or don’t you. Are you also not aware of the hypocrisy when people like you (maybe even you) were telling us all that to criticize the President is “un-American”?
Oh right, that was Bush. Good point. Not hypocritical at all. (snark)
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Steve says:
Apparently, Mr. Nugent, the free market did not want you in that position. Sucks, doesn’t it? You haven’t lost your free speech, you’ve lost your chance to do it on someone else’s dime.
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Diane says:
It’s rich, isn’t it?
Conservatives said we were un American disloyal to country when dared to criticize Bush and the Iraq war. Remember his rantings then?
But God forbid anybody disagree with him?
He can rant elsewhere. It is our duty to question what we don’t like.
But, he should realize it works both ways.
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T&A says:
WTF? A 70’s guitar hero has been muzzled… I’m sure the world is missing something…. :p
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Alpha says:
Shut up and sing, Teddy!!! (ring any bells?)
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Jenner says:
Lets me honest here. There’s obviously more to this story than Ted being fired for not being a team player. He was probably an ass to his new boss and thought he was going to get away with it. Clearly he didn’t.
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joeyess says:
When did Ted become this battle-hardened warrior?
Didn’t he skip out on the ‘Nam? Admittedly so, as well?
It must be the camo-pants. Those always seem to turn the merely annoying into the raging asshole.
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Chilisize says:
Shorter Ted Nugent: “Dear Penthouse Forum, I never believed any of the stories I read in your magazine until I made this one up…
Look, a-hole: you could play some passable amplified blues licks; you should have left well-enough alone…
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dave says:
Great White Buffalo, great song. I don’t care what you say.
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kiki says:
Ah, go sh*t yourself, Ted. Again.
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EriktheRed says:
He’s an excellent guitar player. That’s it. No more, no less. Let him stick to that and he can get whatever crowds he still draws “reinvigorated” by shouting his opinions off the stage because he can’t write for shit.
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jo- says:
Mr Nugent continues to enjoy freedom of speech. Should he desire, he can get a soapbox,stand in front of the Trib, and read his unpublished works. He also has the means to publish and distribute his opinions. He can print up each and every opinion piece,stand in the public square and distribute them to anyone who wishes to read his opinion. He can even stand on that soapbox with his gun(s) to read his opinions. He will not be stopped from speaking. Mr Nugent might even think of starting his own newspaper which would give him full control of the content.
If he does not like anyone else editing his work, he should publish a paper with content he controls. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing.
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Skylab says:
What’s actually bankrupting this country is the current state of health insurance. Over 50% of all bankruptcies are due to the cost of medical care. And when some health insuraqnce CEO’s are making upwards of 100,00$ an hour, is it possible for any of you to guess just what may e driving up costs?
My god, stop defending the rights of these bastards to choke every penny out of We the People. National Health Insurance works everywhere else, and the only reason it will not work here is because we’re about two thirds of the way to fascism. What else do you call it when corporations are writing are prescription drug legislation? Or controlling the debate on Helath insurance?
Freedom of speech my ass! Freedom to shout Health Insurance propoganda is much closer to the truth.
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Arn Gunnutes says:
Nugent is a cowardly PUNK, just like the AWOL coward and WAR CRIMINAL Bush.
Anyone who thinks a pants-crapping DRAFT DODGER is great are the SAME ones who think
an AWOL coward WAR CRIMINAL like Bush is a “patriot”.
Same with Charlie Daniels.
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Arn Gunnutes says:
Michigan Guy says:
Open your eyes Joe College or your future is bleak, POTUS is NOT verified as being qualified for the job, yet he occupies the office.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
After that TRAITOR Bush the WAR CRIMINAL, whose “experience” was running 3 Texas oil companies into BANKRUPTCY.
Obama is not only QUALIFIED to be President of the USA, but makes Bush look like the azzhole TRAITOR that he certainly IS.
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Professor Peewee says:
I ever tell you about the time I slept through a Ted Nugent concert? Talk about bores…
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CGrier says:
Ted claims that he has not criticized the President personally? Really? How does he explain his rant where he called the President “that piece of s**t”? That sounds very personal to me. Mr. Nugent is free to speak his mind all he likes. Free speech does not mean that he has to be PAID to speak his mind.
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chinlock says:
This is coming from a man who was in Damn Yankees…how defiant, he always was and will always be a fake poser.
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TlalocW says:
Ok, true story. Ted, like many c-list acts, has Tulsa as part of his performance tour. He came in early before his concert to sign copies of his then new, “Kill It and Grill It,” book. I’m a liberal, but I have a brother-in-law, who’s a good ol’ boy who’s a hunter (gun and bow) like Ted so I thought maybe he would like an autographed copy.
My girlfriend and I went to Borders and stood in line filled with Ted fans blinking confusedly at all the books that weren’t the Bible or written by Ted or people like Limbaugh. I think a couple even passed out after seeing non-Ted music in the CD section.
Anyway, Ted signed my copy and said, “Enjoy that pardner. There’s a lot of wisdom in there.” Having leafed through it while in line, I literally hurt myself not laughing in his face. Seriously, I had to quickly exit the Borders and then lean against the building while the stitch in my side subsided.
My gf and I went to a local restaurant for me to recover and get a bite while reading things like, “The point of life is to live, and if you’re not living life then you’re not living!” Not an exact quote but close enough.
I gave the book to my brother-in-law, who thanked me profusely and admitted he didn’t really know anything about Ted as he listens to nothing but country music.
I saw him a month later and asked him what he thought of the book. He sighed and said, “James, the recipes look good, but for the rest of it, I thought it was some dumb drug humor that I wasn’t getting until I saw him on a show on ESPN, and he really is that damn dumb!”
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Dan Biellerman says:
I stop reading when I see “Nazi.” He Godwinned himself before he even got started.
Ted is a nice guy, and a great musician. But he fell for Sarah Palin’s “death panel” lies and is obviously not so critical a thinker himself. I agree that there are problems with the President’s plan and the President himself, but as Ted himself famously said – on television, no less – in 2007: “if you’re not with the President, you’re against America.”
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Bill K says:
Now if we could just get someone to fire fox news and tell them all to tone it down this country might be able to pull back a few steps from the brink of insanity (or is it stupidity–still haven’t figured out quite what’s wrong with these people)
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DB Michigan says:
Well, its been a few days since Nuge was “let go”. I suspect that in another few days, his official story line will be…. “I, Ted, told that commie news rag to KMA, I was DONE with them… NO ONE tells ME what I can write… Facists, (editor’s note, Ted prolly thinks they are one in the same ideology) I found myself a new place to get published, one thats way better than that limp wristed Tribune (editor’s note.. two weeks before he er..”quit”, the Trib was prolly THE GREATEST read in America, no doubt.. (just like the Golden Moose Award from the Outdoor Channel is the only award worth having).
“Come to (insert mindless drivel 1000 total readership blog rag here) and read the TRUE NORTH, unadulterated, uncensored TRUTH from ME, Tedly von Nugentbureurger”.
Remember kidz… “No Nuge in the news is bad news… Any Nuge in the news is good news.”
Oh, and did he tell you he was running for Governor of Michigan and that he had a new CD coming out that is blacker than James Jamerson?
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Doctor Gonzo says:
What most of these thundering goons seem to forget is that the First Amendment protects you from having the GOVERNMENT ITSELF censor you or prevent you from expressing an opinion. Nugent can piss and snivel all he wants about how this is some gross abrogation of his rights but as is typical of him and his fans, this was a business decision driven by the hand of the almighty Market which he so dutifully worships and not the act of some government functionary demanding that he shut up.
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Jason says:
Where was Ted when our government was run under the Bush regime and was lieing and collecting illegal information on our citizens. This 4th branch of governement he talks about is BS when its the GOP running illegal surveilance and illegal wars and planting stories in the “free press”. This man is just like all the other right wing hypocrits.
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DB Michigan says:
When you are illegally collecting information via the Patriot Act, by definition, it is PATRIOTIC to ignore the Constitution; for the GREATER good dontchaknow?.
Where are those Steve Earle quotes when you need one or two?
Oh yeah… “When a GOP admin guy says that its unpatriotic to criticize the Government in a time of war, Senator Patrick Lehey says that the Constitution provides Atty General Ashcroft the same first amendment rights as the rest of us.”
Oh.. and this one… “It is never UNPATRIOTIC to ever question ANYTHING in a fk’g DEMOCRACY”
I’ll bet that Ted Nugent never thought he would have to hide behind the wisdom of one Steve Earle.
Take that Theo…. You have met your boogie man, and he is YOU.
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star says:
good riddance ted nugent. i’m worried for the future of the trib due to the change of ownership but, man, at least they dumped that selfish, righteous-sounding windbag. he’s an embarrassment to texas, just like bush. go home!
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Texas Woman says:
The best part about Ted Nugent not being in the paper is that I don’t have to skip that page to keep my blood pressure down. And on Sunday morning at that. I agree with another Texan that as far as I am concerned Ted can move back to Michigan. He is not a Texan. The Texans I know do not spout profanities in front of their children and ego maniacal displays about how great they are and wait for their children to boost their egos even more. I agree with the owners of the Waco Trib that if he can’t be civil then he is not wanted. Ted cries for respect but shows little respect to others. He was extremely disrespectful to Carlos Sanchez in his childish manner of running to his blog and bad mouthing the organization and Carlos Sanchez. Reading this Texas Monthly with his overblown ego made me almost nauseous. Let’s keep the magazine to a high quality of interviews. As to Jason’s about where was Ted while former President Bush was lying…Ted was living in the next town over from Crawford in his own little world, with his gun strapped to his leg, ignoring the truth.
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GlockRulz says:
Quote” jo- says:
Mr Nugent continues to enjoy freedom of speech. Should he desire, he can get a soapbox,stand in front of the Trib, and read his unpublished works. He also has the means to publish and distribute his opinions. He can print up each and every opinion piece,stand in the public square and distribute them to anyone who wishes to read his opinion. He can even stand on that soapbox with his gun(s) to read his opinions. He will not be stopped from speaking. Mr Nugent might even think of starting his own newspaper which would give him full control of the content.
If he does not like anyone else editing his work, he should publish a paper with content he controls. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing.” End Quote
That’s was the only intellegent comment posted. Amazing.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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chas says:
i received a note frothis paper for a subscription and sent it back with a note “i do not subscribe to a communist leaning paper”. i have told them this several times in the past.they won’t stand up to waco city hall and have this love affair with chet.you can tell i’m not alone by there circulation problems. they need to go under and be replaced by real paper.
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