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The Tourism Industry Comes Out Against the Bathroom Bill

The Sixth Floor Museum, situated where Lee Harvey Oswald is believed to have set up a sniper’s post to assassinate JFK, came out against the bathroom bill.

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The former Texas School Book Depository, now The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 2011 in Dallas, Texas.
Photograph by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images

The parade of Texas businesses lining up against the so-called bathroom bill seems to grow daily. From the chambers of commerce to the tech industry to the state’s oil and gas corporations, businesses say the bill to limit transgender people’s access to restrooms in public buildings is nothing less than discrimination that will harm the state’s economy.

After California barred state-paid travel to Texas over a new law to allow foster care agencies to discriminate against LGBT people on the basis of “sincerely held religious beliefs,” there is little wonder that the travel industry would weigh in on the bathroom bill. In a letter to the governor released on Tuesday, the Texas Travel Industry Association outlined economics studies that showed the bathroom bill could cost the state $3.3 billion in gross domestic product and 35,600 full time jobs. “We appreciate your leadership and urge you to avoid any actions, including the passage of any ‘bathroom bill’ that would threaten the growth and prosperity of an industry so vital to our state’s economy,” the letter said.

Of the 51 groups that signed the letter, the one that really caught my eye was the Sixth Floor at Dealey Plaza in Dallas. The museum is situated in the former Texas School Book Depository building, where Lee Harvey Oswald is believed to have set up a sniper’s post in 1963 to assassinate President John F. Kennedy in Dallas.

It’s not surprising that the bulk of the other groups were based in big cities, but the letter was also signed by the Abilene Convention and Tourist Bureau, the Boerne Convention and Visitors Bureau, the Beaumont Convention and Visitors Bureau, and the Dumas Chamber of Commerce and three hotels in the town north of Amarillo.

“The travel industry is the curator of the Texas hospitality brand,” the letter said. “Consequently, the Texas Travel Industry Association will oppose any ‘bathroom bill’ under consideration during this special session that will have a detrimental effect on our industry by degrading the attractiveness of the Texas image to event planners and other potential visitors to our state.”

According to KVUE, tourism officials testified during a public hearing in July that Texas has already lost $66 million over the bathroom bill, though it has yet to pass. The Senate voted on July 25 to advance the legislation, but the House has refused to take the bill up so far.

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  • WUSRPH

    What the business community and especially those in the tourist end of hotels, motels and sports teams, don’t understand is that Dannie Scott and his ilk DO NO CARE if this affects business profits. When you are using sexual obsession, hate and fear of anyone different to sell a political issue you have to claim that is a “MORAL ISSUE” and that considering the economic effect will cost you your soul.

    • SeeItMyWay

      How’s this for waylaying a thread? It’s early in the a.m., and I am sitting in my garage “club house” thinking about the close friends who have recently died, or have just been diagnosed with cancer, while I am doing just great. The latest one d
      today…pancreatic…surgery early a.m. tomorrow.

      I have watched what families go through during these periods after diagnosis and the explained treatment regimen; I have watched what these chemical and radiation treatments produce in terms of extended life. I do not like what I see.

      At 69, I feel very healthy. I am semi-retired, drink, smoke, maintain my yard, a neighbor’s and my in-law’s. Good exercise and a chance to mentally “relax”. I like it.

      This said, if I am ever diagnosed with evasive, poor prognosis cancer like my friends have been, I have no desire to prolong my life and go through what they have, and are, experiencing. I have done, seen, and accomplished more than I ever dreamed I would. I have a wife who has been with me for 45 yrs; two kids, three grandsons…and these three have four great grandparents who live within two miles of all of us. A 98 year old 20 year Navy vet who still drives..and drives well…and three other 90 year olds who still have it all together and live in their own homes.

      This group will drop dead on their own terms, I’m thinking…but not my younger friends I have referenced.

      Cancer late in life is a conundrum…if you feel you’ve “done it all”…and expensive surgery and treatments are “iffy” at best, why do we want to fight it? Why do we want to put our loved ones through the long, drawn out process, with a low chance of extended life and full recovery, and the probability of our own kids, with their own kids to tend to, having to take care of us?

      Being a control freak all my life, and having contingency plans for everything, it would seem to most that I am an agnostic. I am not. I am a firm Believer. After snorkeling and studying all going on in about a square yard of coral reef, I realized that the way things were formed, and how it all fits together, that single cells did not start lumping together without direction.

      This said, I am told my Christian religion says that taking your own life is a sin. I am going looking for that in the New Testament. I don’t pay much attention to the Old Testament…other than prognostications of Jesus’ coming, I am trying to figure out why Christian ministers are still preaching OT sermons.

      Here’s what I’m getting at…I read about a young married woman in Oregon who had advanced cancer. She was a able to get a prescription for Seconal, a barbiturate, take it home and decide when she wanted to “check out”. Loved ones around her, she opened the capsules, dropped the powder into a glass, mixed it with her favorite beverage, drank it, went into perpetual bliss and never woke up.

      If my God doesn’t appreciate this sacrifice to keep those we love from going through a prolonged period of agony, I want someone to tell me in the New Testament where if says so.

      • donuthin2

        Hey JJ, I have a few years on you and sometimes have similar thoughts. I, too, have had a great life, married since jr. college, good career, great kids and grandkids. I try not to obsess to much about it and enjoy the moment. I am less of a religious sort than you and not counting on a hereafter, but when the time comes, I will not be for those life prolonging treatments at my age, but rather be pain free, and able to reflect on the good times. I guess my worst fear is being left alone by my wonderful wife of almost 60 years but then again, I worry about leaving her alone also. I guess all of that is part of life. I will drink one to you this evening.

      • WUSRPH

        Been feeling a little like that myself the last few days….maybe its watching all the grass and plants dying in the heat and drought or world and national events and the vacation we had to cancel, but I feel it passing…..the rain we had on Monday may have helped.

      • BCinBCS

        I, too, would like to add my two cents (that’s cool: too, to and two all right together).

        JJ, not wanting to fight cancer has two negative downsides: It leaves your wife, kids and grandkids – not to mention your neighbor and in-law – without you. And, by fighting diseases, knowledge is gained that, although it may not help you, can help those that come after you. Not fighting eliminates that knowledge.

        Don’t discount the importance of those two consequences when you weigh your options if you should ever get cancer. I sincerely hope that you never have to make that choice.

    • BarksintheCountry

      Well WUSRPH, that certainly is the stance of the LKJHGFT gang. They’re pitching their intolerance and hate as a moral issue.

  • José

    Dan Boy needs to realize that LGBTIQ dollars, and those of their allies, are worth just as much as those from prudish redneck bigots. There will just be fewer of them.

  • BUFFet

    Bathroom bill is an embarrassment: going to the bathroom is a necessity, not a choice. Amoral Cheapskates!
    Of all people…Texans ought be coming out in droves, everywhere, to give our brothers and sisters the privacy they need.

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  • BarksintheCountry

    Seems the good citizens of Texas are the only ones supporting this bill which was brought about by obama’s reckless executive actions.

    • WUSRPH

      I guess—at least if you look at the polls—that there are a lot fewer “good citizens of Texas” than one would have thought as only 26% of the GOP Primary voters think it is a “priority”…….Your “brought about by Obama’s reckless executive actions” comment sounds a lot like what people said about Blacks when they were “agitating” for their rights as Americans…..”We would have none of this trouble if they would just stay in their place”.

      P.S. There are so many acronyms these days that it is hard to keep up…..Your “LKJHGFT gang” is a new one to me. Would you mind explaining just which people it describes.

    • scrubba

      No , the Legalistic , so called Christian Evangelists have decided to make an issue out of something that HAS NEVER BEEN an issue and trying to HIDE the fact it’s THEM that are the REAL problem in a restroom !

    • José

      That’s fer durn sure! If it wasn’t for Obummer then there wouldn’t have been all them there incy-dents of trans sexyooalls violating our wimmen folk. Like that time…no, that wuzn’t one. No mebbe it was…naw that wuzn’t neither. Say, Barksy, tell me again. Zackly how many times has a real honest to goodness tranny committed a sex assault in a public potty in Texas? I cain’t think of none.

  • BCinBCS

    Since we are in the August political doldrums, I found an OT article that I found especially interesting. It is a short New York Magazine piece by Ed Kilgore titled “Congress Is A Desert, Not A Swamp”. It’s conclusion about the effects of reducing the federal government reminds me of the consequences of trickle-down (supply side) economics that are occurring in some of the states.

    It begins:

    The prevailing “populist” demonology (popular now on the right as well as the left) about Congress as the nerve center of the D.C. “swamp” holds that members of Congress (and to a considerable extent their staff) are enriching themselves via princely salaries, lavish benefits and perks, and obscene bribes as they pretend loyalty to the public, political parties, and ideological principles.
    […]
    But Congress is more of a desert than a swamp.

    It’s a quick read but points out serious consequences. It can be found here:
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/congress-is-a-desert-not-a-swamp.html

  • John Bernard Books

    Texas drained the swamp 30 years……
    “The Texas Legislature moved a step closer Monday in toughening the state’s penalties for those who hijack votes from unsuspecting Texans by using mail-in ballots.

    The House Elections Committee on Monday voted 4-2 along party lines to approve Senate Bill 5, legislation aimed at making it harder for vote harvesters to operate and to increase penalties for interfering with mail-in votes.”
    https://texasmonitor.org/voter-fraud-crackdown-step-closer-house-committee-vote/?utm_content=bufferd801d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    If democrats can’t cheat how can they win? Its been 30 years since a dem won a statewide race in Texas…..

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  • WUSRPH

    Just for clarification sake: Just because a bill has been reported from a House committee DOES NOT mean that it will be placed on the House Daily Calendar and brought to a vote….Dozens of bills get out of committee each session but “die in Calendars”….On reason is that it traditional in Legislature that the committee will not place a bill on a daily calendar unless the author/sponsor/backers can show that it has the votes to pass. The Committee is not interested in wasting the House’s time on a measure that is not going to pass just to allow someone like Stickland to get a list of “good” and “bad” to use in against his colleagues in the next primary. Part of its job is to protect the members from such tactics. The same applies to the speaker. So, when you hear the Stickland’s complaining that such-and-such bill was not brought to the floor (when he could get his list)…keep that in mind.

    • Kozmo

      Well, I can only note that a lot of what was formerly thought of as “traditional” about the legislature’s rules gets tossed out the minute the dominant party (Republicans) decide they really want something, rules, traditions, and public interest be damned. That’s when we’ve seen rules suspended, overridden, changed, etc. in the recent past. That’s how we see the abortion bills and gerrymandering bills and other pet projects of the extreme right wing passed into law. So I wouldn’t be so quick to be assured that “tradition” or gentleman’s agreements are going to protect anyone against the tyranny of the majority.

      • WUSRPH

        There have always been occasions when the legislature ignored traditions, its own written rules, rewrote rules and overruled precedents to allow it do something. After all, the FIRST RULE of the Legislature has always been: “If the leadership really wants to do something, it will find a way.” But I have to admit it seems to happen a lot more often since the Republicans took over.

        Another problem is that especially in the cases of Craddick and Patrick we have had “leaders” with highly political agendas where, for the most part, their predecessor were far less ideological and much more inclined to “protect” the members from harmful votes and actions when they could. Straus’ problem with many people is that he is a more traditional speaker and still understands the need—and duty–of the speaker to use his powers to protect the members, the institution and the State from questionable actions.

  • John Bernard Books

    I just read a great article explaining why some dems hate capitalism so much. The article referred to them as wordsmiths and included politician’s staffers, professors, journalists, lawyers etc. and their explanation was “wordsmiths felt entitled to much higher compensation than capitalism afforded them.” They further clarified, “intellectuals such as math geeks etc didn’t meet the “wordsmith requirement.”
    I’ve been saying this for years, and watching it unfold here…..
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/09/nyt-admits-its-front-page-climate-change-article-was-wrong/

  • John Bernard Books

    Ever met a dem who wasn’t a crook?
    “A top school lunch reformer for the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD), who received praise from former first lady Michelle Obama, has been charged with 15 felony counts, including embezzlement and misappropriation of public funds.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/10/michelle-obama-top-school-lunch-ally-charged-embezzling-lausd-funds/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
    stealing from the kids….

  • WUSRPH

    How says that political “progressives” cannot learn…..One sign they might be able to recognize sometimes things change is the fact that the Texas Observer, the long-time voice of liberals and later modern-day “progressives” in Texas has launched a new project to explore the lives and problems of rural Texans….

    https://www.texasobserver.org/
    As the observer notes, Texas has more than 3.4 million “rural” residents and leads the nation in that category…but those folks are often overlooked unless there is some colorful event, a blow-out oil pipeline or some strange murder or something along those lines…..No wonder they feel left out and ignored. The Observer, in its own indomitable style, intends to bring their stories and their needs our into the light for its primarily urban and suburban left-leaning readership . And, in the process hopes to show both sides that they have a lot in common.
    Not that many years ago, “East Texas Democrats” and other rural folks were a major part of the Democratic coalition, but today more of them vote for that other party whose name their grandfathers were even reluctant to say in mixed company. But that started to change, beginning primarily in the 1960s….There are many explanations, some of which may even be true, but it is hard to overlook the fact that was the same time the Democrats nationally and even some in Texas started talking and voting to advance the civil and political rights of blacks and other minorities. As LJB said, he knew passage of the Civil Rights Act would cost the Democrats the south for at least a generation….Unfortunately, it has been a longer than that.

  • WUSRPH

    Even Israel understands that just a “WALL” is not going to do the job…..You have to go down as well as up…..but I doubt anyone has told The Most High that….since he dislikes anything but a simple solution…..

    http://tinyurl.com/ybmkdslc

  • SpiritofPearl

    A $10 tomato will be in your nearest HEB soon. Time for creative thinking from our politicos:

    http://fortune.com/2017/08/08/immigration-worker-shortage-rotting-crops/

    • WUSRPH

      I gave you a “solution” a couple of days ago—-go back to, in effect, “selling” our convicts to farmers and businesses……It solves both the labor problem and saves the state money—it may even make a profit. What more do you want?

      • SpiritofPearl

        (1) This “solution” smacks of slavery and Simon Legree. Are whips involved?

        (2) There aren’t enough prisoners with the LIBERTY to do the job effectively.

        (3) Illegal immigrants will still continue to come here.

        Spent a week in 2016 in the Salinas valley. Each day we would drive past truck farms that harvested artichokes, broccoli, cauliflower, and everbearing strawberries. To gather the berries requires the worker to bend at the waist hour after hour. I honestly don’t know how the workers were able to do it – backbreaking.

        Guest worker programs are what I favor.

  • WUSRPH

    I assume you saw where The Most High Donald today added Venezuela to the list of countries that we might use military force against if they don’t shape up….If he keeps this up, we will have to quadruple the size of the military just to have enough contingency forces available to cover his threats. Perhaps someone should submit a list of the countries of the world to him and ask him to put a check next to the names of those few he will recognize as countries signifying which ones will won’t attack…sort of like FDR did with Hitler—-only to have Hitler turn it around into a hilarious routine….

    And here we were assured by his supporters before the election that Trump was going to reduce our foreign entanglements….They, however, did not tell us it would be by wiping them off the face of the earth.

    Someone needs to give Trump a box of toy soldiers to play with so he won’t be tempted to use the real ones.

    • WUSRPH

      While The Most High Donald clearly gets some power thrill by threatening to use force against other nations….could there by just a little bit of an connection between his current fixation with attacking anyone and anybody (two different countries in two different hemispheres plus the Senate majority leader on the same day for example) and the fact that the US is on the verge of a fiscal crisis which he would rather not have people talking about?

      After all, otherwise people might be talking about the fact that When Congress returns in September the House will have just 12 legislative days to raise the federal borrowing limit to avoid default — and the same amount of time to approve a spending deal to avert a government shutdown. Both subjects on which Trump has shown no understanding of the issues and for which his Administration (SIC) has yet to come up with any ideas.

      Of course, suggesting that Trump has some grand strategy behind his Tweets is probably giving him far too much credit…..

      • BCinBCS

        Both subjects on which Trump has shown no understanding of the issues

        I have yet to hear about any subject that he truly understands. I have absolutely no idea how he graduated from college. This is certainly a manifestation of JJ’s (SeeItMyWay) college training rather than college education.

        I had a minor epiphany about why Comrade Trump/Bannon’s speech irritates me. I discovered that it’s because he doesn’t use words of more than two syllables. I don’t know why that bothers me but I suspect that it’s because an adult should have better than a grade school vocabulary. To his credit, he does use an occasional three syllable word when he tweets.

        • WUSRPH

          His speaking style of short words and short, often incomplete sentences is apparently deliberate and adopted when he began to get serious about running. This is fairly obvious when he you compare what he is saying about NK now and how he says it to what he said, and how he said it, a few years ago on a recorded interview that has resurfaced now that he is hot on the subject. His remarks back then indicated even some knowledge of he situation and the problems in dealing with NK—all of which is absent from his current diatribes.

          This means that, either he has suffered some brain injury that affects his ability to talk in complete sentences with “big” words or he has deliberately dumbed down his speech out of some belief that will better appeal to the voters—which suggests that he has a very low opinion of their general intelligence.

          He would not be the first to deliberately talk down to the voters…just one of the more successful. I remember back in my days with Bullock when a style manual for correspondence was distributed entitled “Simple Spoken Here” which told us to try to write as if the reader had only an eighth grade education……Making things clear and avoiding jargon and fancy words is appropriate, but automatically assuming that the recipient is uneducated is not, at least to me.

          • Jed

            “This means that, either he has suffered some brain injury that affects his ability to talk in complete sentences with “big” words or he has deliberately dumbed down his speech out of some belief that will better appeal to the voters—which suggests that he has a very low opinion of their general intelligence.”

            he is the oldest elected president we have ever had, no? i don’t think he is acting.

          • WUSRPH

            Reagan’s inner circle was able to hide the fact that toward the end of his term he was clearly suffering from Alzheimer’s from public view basically because they were so loyal to him personally that they could not conceive of revealing his declining abilities. (Kennedy’s inner circle did the same thing with his sexual habits and drug usage.) But there may be two differences if Trump has a problem similar to Reagan’s:

            First, Reagan’s people had had enough exposure to him BEFORE the effects showed up that they could recognize them….while most of Trump’s people (other than the family) have no basis to judge whether there has been a change if there is one. Since he came in this way, they will just assume that “That’s Trump” and not explore any causes for his behavior.

            Second, because of the fact that few of the “grew up with him in politics”, Trump’s people may not feel the same degree of personal loyalty expressed by Reagan and Kennedy’s staff. As such, they may be more willing to expose his weaknesses in order to protect the country…or, at least one would hope that would be the case.

          • Jed

            You had me at “kennedy’s drug usage.”

            Never heard that one before.

          • WUSRPH

            Kennedy took an extensive amount of medication—supposedly because of the back injury he suffered when PT 109 was sunk right out from under him—but also because of an undisclosed disease (I think it was Addison’s disease a adrenal gland deficiency) and was in almost constant pain. He received pain killers including amphetamines and other drugs both from the White House physician and, secretly without the doctor’s knowledge, from a “Dr. Feelgood”. It is believed that on more than one occasion this had a serious affect on his ability to perform his duties. When he met Khrushchev in Vienna in 1961 he was, according to observers “so out of it” that Nikita became convinced that Kenney was a push over who he could run circles around….The result was the building of the Berlin Wall about six weeks later and the decision by the Soviets to put missiles in Cuba…None of this was known—by the public–at the time. It was kept secret.

            For details see: http://blogs.reuters.com/berlin1961/2011/05/26/kennedys-dr-feelgood/

          • BCinBCS

            All right now Jed. W, I and a couple of others on this blog are also old and I think that you were implying…

            However I agree with you about him not dumbing down, he’s just not that good of an actor, despite his opinion of Meryl Streep’s acting ability. And, if true, that leaves only cognitive impairment.

  • WUSRPH

    Here’s another good one for you from the New York magazine:

    “White House Officials Say a Cabal of Islamists, Marxists,
    and Bankers Is at War With Trump”

    I have not seen anyone allege such a confused, illogical combination of evil plotters since the days of the “Protocols of Zion”…..but some of Donald’s friends probably think that was non-fiction.

  • WUSRPH

    HB 208, the House’s version of Patrick’s garrote on state government, has been placed on the House Daily Calendar for tomorrow (Saturday)…..This means it still has a chance of passing the legislature before it must sine die on Wednesday. Either bill would place an artificial limit on how much state spending can increase from one biennium to another that totally overlooks any increase in the NEED for such spending or whether the revenues are available. Both versions also makes it almost impossible to exceed the limit by requiring three-fifths votes in each house to do so. This could mean that surplus, unspendable funds could pile up in the treasury even thou there is a definite need for new expenditures. The result–as Patrick intends—will be the gradual strangulation of state government. The alleged fiscal notes for the bill were carefully written so that they would not have to project any possible impact….but a picture of what the effect of such a garrote might be can be found in a study by the LBB that, when you read between the lines, suggests that, had this limit been in effect in the past, the current state budget would be at least $40 BILLION.
    The House version is, in theory, as better bill than the version adopted by the Senate because it excludes federal funds from the totals against which the limits are applied. The Senate does not….The difference is that, under the Senate bill, Texas could receive more federal funds BUT NOT BE ALLOWED to spend them…while the House bill would let us take advantage of the new funds.
    Another difference is that the Senate also excluded spending for transportation (highways) from the limits while the House, for consistency, applies the limit to that spending. The result could be to negate some of the increased funding for highways adopted over the past few years since, just as with other programs, it could wind up having funds available that cannot be appropriated because of the spending limit.
    I am not in a position to know whether these changes have been negotiated with the Senate, but, if they have not, they could force the bill into a conference committee during the closing hours of the session which might not be able to “adjust the differences” before sine die. (Some overly cynical types might speculate that that might be the House’s intention.)

    • WUSRPH

      P.S. Under a strict reading of the State Constitution any bill that is not out of committee by midnight Sunday IS DEAD. Of course, as with all rules this one can be bent and twisted if the legislature desires. In this case, however, it would take a four-fights vote….which is not likely for anything like bathrooms or other highly controversial measures.

      • WUSRPH

        POSSIBLE CORRECTION: It has been suggested that I erred when I said that SB 9 includes federal funds under the limit…..In re-reading both HB 208 and SB 9 I find that only HB 208 specifically excludes federal funds in clear direct language….while it is probable that SB 9 does the same but in a more convoluted manner that does it indirectly by the way it defines some terms.

        I am continuing to review the subject, but I thought you should know that I may be wrong…If, of course, would not be the first time….the difference between me and others is that, when I am, I admit it.

  • WUSRPH

    I am certain that The Most High Donald is so firmly convinced that he can say and threatened anyone as much as he wants as everything is under control and nothing go wrong….but, as this article from the Huff-Post suggests, little things and people far from his office can make his powers meaningless especially when fears are running high.

    http://tinyurl.com/y75tp59f

  • WUSRPH

    Now that the bathroom bill is almost certainly (hope, hope) DEAD, what do you want to bet that Dr. Hotze already has bought TV time and is having the ads filmed showing a big ugly hairy-legged man in a dress following an innocent, angelic little white girl into a bathroom…….You can be certain that, assuming he runs again, that the folks in Byron is also probably already on the design tables at some PR firm and the paid Trolls are standing by to hit all the social media outlets and a couple of preachers are certainly well along in drafting their “sermons”….Boy, it is going to be fun.

    • BCinBCS

      …and he is going to continue leaving five minute harangues on my answering machine.

  • WUSRPH

    Does the new “Trump Rule” that you have to step down if you don’t deliver on your promises only apply to Mitch or does it cover The Most High himself? If so, he would have been out of the WH months ago.

    • BCinBCS

      It’s interesting the phenomena named after him. There’s even a Trump’s Razor.

  • WUSRPH

    If Trump wants to work on his ability to say complete sentences he might try this one since he seems to have
    so much trouble with expressing it:

    “White Supremacy is bad…It is Anti-American”

    Of course, the same applies to any kind of racial superiority claim…but Trump seems to have a particularly problem with condemning this particular group of haters.

    • BCinBCS

      I hate to generalize, but if the Comrade Trump/Bannon supporters that I know are any indication, denouncing white supremacists and racists would be denouncing the core of his supporters.

  • WUSRPH

    The House did both good and bad today….The bad was passing SB 1, the alleged tax relief bill that provides no tax cuts at all—but will be sold as having done so….The GOOD was to kill HB 208, Dan Patrick’s garrote on state government, by a point of order….It then did even better by sustaining the point or order against the very rare motion to appeal the ruling of the chair…..Although there is a slim chance it could be resurrected, sending the bill back to committee to correct the bill analysis, may kill it for the special session.

  • WUSRPH

    I assume you saw where the Senate, as is its habit toward the end of a session, regular or special, tried to sidestep the constitutional ban on a bill covering more than two subjects and loaded the anti-tree cutting bill down with matters that were not germane to the original bill in the hope that the House would accept them…But, also true to form in both a regular or special session, the speaker refused to allow it and sent the measure back to the Senate with a “that’s a no, no” note. This happens probably a dozen or more times during the closing days of a regular session. It is rarer in a special.

    The Senate tends of ignore little things like the constitutional niceties and often its own rules when it wants to cut corners to push bills thru. They get away with it….in the Senate…because senators very rarely call points of order on each other. But such complaints are more than common in the House and, had Straus let the bill go to the Floor for House approval, it would surely have been killed by such a challenge. This way the Senate gets one more chance at passing the bill.

  • WUSRPH

    Here it comes again (maybe)? Although HB 208, the Patrick bill to garrote state government, was knocked down by a point of order on Saturday, efforts to pass the limit on state spending continue. The bill was resurrected hours later when a House committee inserted the language of HB 208 into the Senate version, SB 9, and reported it to the House. This gives its backers one more shot at passing this proposal to limit the growth in state spending—assuming, that is, it gets placed on a House Daily Calendar. If the Calendar Committee were to act today, under House Rules it would either late Monday or early Tuesday before the bill could be voted on by the Full House…which means that it could not be sent back to the Senate until as late as Wednesday, the last day of the session……This would force the Senate to either accept the House changes or take the risk that the bill could get into and out of a conference committee before sine die. Should the bill be passed by the special session it would be a good example of the First Rule of the Legislature—i.e.–If the leadership wants to do something, they will find a way.

  • WUSRPH

    Speaking of obtuse…..what about someone who cannot seem to understand the difference between a possible criminal get-rich scheme and a possible plot by a hostile foreign power (perhaps added and abetted in by the Trump campaign) to subvert the election process and elect a president of the United States beholden to that foreign power? You need to try to put things into a little perspective….although I know you despise that concept.

    • SeeItMyWay

      Why Professor…show me where I have ever suggested that there should not be a full investigation of the possibility of foreign campaign influence with the Trump group taking part. You are not going to find it. I want all investigated, prosecuted, and impeached if warranted. I also want to DNC’s possible link to campaign shenanigans probed. Some possibility of this has come to light recently.

      And there’s the Clinton’s.

      Gather info. Prosecute where warranted and throw the book at those found guilty of crimes. Only then will this stuff end.

      • WUSRPH

        I fully agree about the need to investigate all these folks and take the appropriate action based on the findings…BUT, to assume that prosecuting those involved will end such behavior is probably a great deal optimistic. That would probably require a change in human nature…..

  • WUSRPH

    I long ago learned to stop marveling at some people’s ability to live with myths that reflect their personal bias but it still amuses me to watch them….For example, in recent years here in Texas we have had two myths about Texas House Speaker Joe Straus….One of which pictures him as the last-stand of “moderates” in the Texas GOP who is single-handedly saving Texas from the plots of the radical extremists—as personified by Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick….While at the same time others see him as the evil incarnate RINO standing in the way of God’s will and the restoration of morals and good government to Texas. I did a piece on this subject towards the end of the Regular Session…but I will take another look at the question of just which side is Straus on after the Special Session when we can total up either how successful Straus was in either “saving” Texas or in helping “make it great again.” The results are likely to disappoint both sides.

    • SeeItMyWay

      If he does nothing but stop the radical push to the extreme right, we owe him a debt of gratitude. That would be deemed a major accomplishment in my mind.

      His interview confirmed what I already knew – he is the best leader we have in Austin at present. He has a feel for what is stirring in our business leaders’ minds, as well as in those of the sleeping GOP moderate group who might be showing some signs of actually paying more attention to the issues and not just the broadcasted propaganda by Empower Texans. We shall see.

      • WUSRPH

        I suggest that before you declare Straus the hero of the hour you wait till after the session ends and we compare what the governor asked for to what finally passes. That way we can get a picture of which of the myths is closer to reality or whether what you see is image, not facts.

  • WUSRPH

    Speaking of Trump’s inability to use “big words” or complete sentences….such as “White Supremacy is Bad”….have you noticed how he almost always uses “figthin words” to describe anyone who disagrees with him?…..For example, his new campaign TV add for 2020 despite being perhaps a new record of how early a campaign has run such an add refers to “ENEMIES” who are out to get him rather than using the conventional word of “opponents” to describe those in politics who do not support you plans….I guess he doesn’t believe you can be a decent person—or a good American—if you disagree with him….There apparently is no such thing as a “loyal opposition” in Donald’s world…..

    • BCinBCS

      Simultaneously with your post, I added a comment as a reply to an earlier conversation. I decided to delete it there and move it here:

      In the same vein of two syllable words is Comrade Trump/Bannon’s weak-soup way that he says them. About the violent, racist gathering in Charlottsville, Virginia, the opinion writer Michael Gerson took him to task by writing: “[That Trump] was alternately trite (‘come together as one’), infantile (‘very, very sad’) and meaningless (‘we want to study it’).

      My god, my god. [smh]

  • WUSRPH

    If anyone doubts that politicians—and speakers—sometimes may do things that they supposedly oppose you only have to take a look at the current status of HB 14, the bill to cut off all funding sources to Planned Parenthood. The Senate passed its bill weeks ago…but Chair Byron Cook has been sitting on it….despite heavy pressure from the anti-choice folks…BUT now QR says that HB 14, the House version, was reported by Byron Cook SATURDAY NIGHT. This means it could get on the Calendar for FLOOR ACTION before Sine Die, although its chances of getting thru the Senate are not that great. I guess the SPEAKER or COOK feels a need to “go on record” as hating planned parenthood for primary vote reasons.

    They could actually pass the bill if Cook were to kick the SB, pending in his committee, out of committee before HB 14 officially comes up for a vote on the House Floor where he could substitute the SB for HB 14..Then, if the House passed it without amendments before midnight Wednesday it would go straight to the governor.
    This could well be another example of the First Rule of the Legislature—i.e.—If the Leadership really wants to do something they will find a way.

    • WUSRPH

      I checked…and the SB was NEVER referred to committee in the House so it cannot be substituted on the
      Floor….This means that, for the bill to be passed, it would have to be put before the House and voted on (twice) and then sent to the Senate where it could conceivably have to be sent to and reported from a committee (barring the very, very unusual move of taking it up on the Floor WITHOUT a committee meeting) and passed by the Senate all before 12 a.m. Thursday……All this suggests that is probably
      a classic case of someone wanting to duck the responsibility for killing the bill by being able to claim that he had reported it…and it was not his fault that time ran out. This also, unfortunately, might allow the supporters of the bill to get a “good and bad” list of House members to use against the Nays in the
      GOP primary…..

  • WUSRPH

    The House was slated to give final approval to SB 1, the property tax bill, on Sunday…..but it postponed that vote….Maybe a little strategizing going on? Delaying it….say till Wednesday….would use up so much time that the Senate would probably have to accept the House version out of fear that it could get hung up in a conference committee or for someone reason fail to finally pass by 12 a.m. Thursday. It could also be because the House is waiting to see what the Senate is going to do with some of the issues that are important to the House…and is not about to give the Senate its biggest win until the Senate makes it happy…..It would be nice to back near the center of action so that I would have the “real scoop”….but those days are long gone now. (That assumes,, of course, that I was ever in a position to know that stuff.)

    • WUSRPH

      The House also postponed SB 16, the governor’s commission to study public education….The House Education chair has said he will kill that bill unless the Senate does something serious on public school reform…..which it has so far declined to do.

      Both it and SB 1 are now set for Monday…BUT they could also be postponed then.

  • WUSRPH

    It was good to see that some anonymous person at the WH at the tail end of a e-mail to the media on several subjects was able to use the words “white supremacy” and “condemn” in the same sentence…It would be nice if someone could get Trump to do the same….Maybe they need to call in a speech therapist to help him form the words.

    • WUSRPH

      Saw that the state senator from the area will attend the “counter protest” at Texas A&M when Spencer, the White Supremacist speaks there again on 9-11. Maybe someone should ask Gov. Abbott and Lt. Gov. Abbott what there plans are for that day…before they have a chance to add enough items to their schedule that they have a conflict.

      • BCinBCS

        As of now, Spenser’s speech has been cancelled because law enforcement could not “guarantee safety” for the faculty, staff, students and the public at Texas A&M. (What other safety does the police “guarantee”?)

        The person who had planned the event for the free speech area of the campus said that he will appeal the decision through the courts.

        I am extremely disappointed in A&M’s commitment to free speech. I abhor what Spencer and others like him have to say but I completely support their right to say it.

        • WUSRPH

          I agree that the University and the State will probably lose the court case on the grounds that because it allows other groups not composed of university students, to use this free speech area it cannot restrict the SOB’s First Amendment rights. (It probably would do better if it did not allow off campus users to give talks at this spot but limited it to those only with university connections, but that is not the case here. As such, it if wants to avoid this problem in the future it should reconsider its open to all policy.)

          I believe that the claim that you can deny free speech on public safety grounds was decided as long ago as the Nazis in Skokie case many years ago….so that it will not fly with at least a higher court.

          What you have here is a university under pressure not to allow some deservedly disgusting group to speak. It is using whatever grounds it can find—however nebulous—to try to fend off that pressure, probably with the full expectation that it will lose…..The sad reality is that Spencer will probably get to spew his hatred on the A&M campus….but Free Speech means Free Speech even for the most hateful of people…..

          • BCinBCS

            This would have been Spencer’s second time to speak at A&M. He was invited by Preston Wiginton who briefly attended the university. The security costs of Spencer’s first speech resulted in a rule change that stated that any outside lecturer must be invited by a student organization and that they are responsible for the costs of security. No student organization would invite Spencer on Wiginton’s behalf this time, so he reserved the free speech area which is open to everyone.

            Speaking of free speech and ancient history, an antiwar activist from Austin was scheduled to speak at A&M in the early 70’s. Being a military dominated school, the powers that be just about had a sh!t-fit. They called out the university police, the Bryan/College Station police and the Texas Rangers. Needless to say, he never gave his speech.

            It never ceases to amaze me how those who proclaim the loudest about their love for the Constitution are the first to violate it.

          • WUSRPH

            Hypocrisy is the 5th gene down the DNA chain…..Self-righteousness is the 6th.

  • WUSRPH

    If it worked for the Saudis there would be fewer such events….It never seemed to work in the good old days when we in the West staged public executions….There are many accounts of pickpockets in England working the crowds who had gathered to see the execution of a pickpocket…..They had a lot more “capital offenses” in those days…but that did not seem to have that much impact on the crime rate either…..But it is always nice to dream about a past that never existed….The whole “deterrence” theory for crime seems to be questionable—as testified by the fact that we have more people in prison in the US than anywhere else….and Texas leads the nation…

    • SeeItMyWay

      Oh, stop it. Your pedantry is coming on strong once again.

      • WUSRPH

        Sorry, but history has proven time and time again that trial and punishment of others has little or no effect on the crime rate. You might be able to suppress it a bit if you adopted a total police state, put a cop on every corner and jailed people because they “might” do wrong, but I doubt that you want them..

        Even shipping criminals off to strange places like Georgia (the American one) or Australia did little to stop crime as there have always been new perpetrators to replace the old (although it did produce some of their most distinguished (today) first families). It has something to do with human nature….but enjoy your myth.

  • WUSRPH

    I have to rebuff the rumor that The Most High is having the White House gold-leafed as part of the rehabilitation of the “dump” now underway….the toilet seats, yes, the building no.

  • WUSRPH

    The events in Charlottesville made me think about the question of what to do with the statutes of confederate leaders that the White Supremacists are using to justify their actions.

    As a history nut I have conflicted thoughts about the idea of removing all the statutes of alleged “confederate heroes” that litter the south. Most were put up late in the 19th Century as the civil war veterans were getting old but the purpose of installing them was more than just to “honor” a bunch of old men and defeated generals……In fact, a good deal of the impetus came from a desire to impress on the region’s Black residents just who was in charge since they were starting to get “uppity”…..As such, putting the statutes up was only a part of a program that included the adoption of such things as the “White Only Primary”, voter intelligence tests, restrictions on who could vote and poll tax fees for doing so and a whole spectrum of other “Jim Crow Laws”. That background makes me lean towards ripping the things down…..On the other hand, some of them do mark historical events and people of some prominence in them…..and, as an college history major, I do not want to do anything to discourage people from learning something about the history of their nation—-which so few do.

    Some suggest that what we need to do is to put up markers near the offending monuments and statutes that explain the background and, we hope, make it clear that most Americans (hopefully even including Donald Trump) today reject the concepts of “White Supremacy” and the defense of a system built on slavery that these men represented. That would, it is said, “put it into perspective”. That might work in some cases…..however, maybe not all.

    In fact, that was actually tried in Santa Fe, New Mexico, some years ago where a monument to the “victims” of the Pueblo Indian “uprising” against their Spanish conquerors identified those freedom-fighting Native Americans as being “SAVAGES”. When some uppity Injuns and bleeding heart liberals started complaining about the language, the city put up a small marker next to the monument that explained that—although no one approved of using that term today—people at the time the monument was erected were likely to be less aware of how offensive the term could be to others. This, however, left the offending word on the original monument. That seemed to satisfy some folks at the time, but a few years later someone took more direct action to remove the offending word by showing up one day in dressed up in what appeared to be a city employee’s uniform, taking out a chisel and hammer and chiseling the word off the monument……Maybe we should follow his example and do the same to the word “hero” wherever it appears on the confederate monuments.

    P.S. Before someone condemns me for being a YANKEE LOVER who just does not under the REAL History, let me point out that some of my ancestors owned slaves for almost as long as there was slavery in the New
    World…and that my great grandfather (a veteran of Co. K, 2nd Virginia Cavalry, Pelham’s Battery of the First Stuart Horse Artillery and the First Maryland Regiment of Cavalry, CSA) was a “proud confederate” to the day
    of his death. He may have being “courageous” in fighting “for a cause he believed in”….but the fact is that he WAS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY and, as such was no hero.

    And don’t give me that “It was State Rights” crap….Reading the secession documents alone makes it more than clear that the only State Right of importance was the one to own one of your fellow men and White Supremacy. The Texas one is one of the most honest about it. Nor can we excuse them on the ground that Lincoln and some other Yankees sometimes said things about the fact that Blacks were not and could not be “our social
    equals”…..They may have been wrong…but they—at least—did not try to defend the defenders of slavery.

  • WUSRPH

    An outstanding, balanced, fair, through and objective analysis of the current political situation in Texas and the special session from today’s Austin A-S…Well worth reading by GOPers, Dems, liberals, moderates, conservatives and even left and right radicals:

    http://tinyurl.com/y7ft76d2

  • WUSRPH

    He actually did it…He said the two words—“white supremacist”—-and he did not explode…There may still be a slight glimmer of hope.

    • WUSRPH

      Trump often speaks with emotion, but his delivery of the statement condemning the KKK, neo-Nazis and White Supremacists sounded like a legal defendant reading—word-by-word—a carefully drawn statement his lawyers have given him to get his you-know-what out of a trap. Real commitment there.

      • BCinBCS

        You weren’t the only one who noticed that.
        From Andy Borowitz at The New Yorker:

        “WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—A disturbing hostage video surfaced on Monday showing an American man woodenly reciting words that were not his own.
        The video, which was broadcast on all the major news networks, raised concerns for the man, whose robotic performance indicated that he was reading a prepared statement under duress.
        While the man appeared well fed and, to a certain extent, healthy, his facial expressions and body language convinced experts that the act of reciting the prepared text was an extraordinary ordeal for him.
        Harland Dorrinson, a forensic psychologist, compared the man’s performance with hours of earlier footage of him and said that the man had ‘never expressed these sentiments before.’
        ‘He did not seem to understand what he was saying,’ the psychologist said. ‘At times, he appeared to be reading these words phonetically.’
        Additionally, Dorrinson said, the man’s speech patterns in the hostage video were strikingly different from those in earlier videos of him. ‘From the moment he began speaking, the subjects in his sentences agreed with the verbs,’ he said. ‘That set off alarm bells.'”

        • WUSRPH

          The sad reality is that Trump (and his father’s) record in the real estate business demonstrated that he at least felt racial discrimination was a good business practice. His behavior and comments since then have reinforced the suggestion that he has some racial superiority leanings. Plus, he knows he got a lot of votes from people who want “those people put in their place” and how think they are Whites are being discriminated against in favor of other races. That all suggests that he would be reluctant to condemn those people…..as he was….He, like many other white supremacists (including many who would vehemently deny that is what they are) probably blame the apparent murder of the young women on the fact that she was there to protest against the White Supremacists….This is old, she put herself in danger defense used again and again to justify violence. I, personally, am appalled by the fact that there was violence by both sides…..but let us remember that one side was advocating what America supposedly believes in while the other was spouting hate right out of Hitler’s Germany and waving the flag of a nation whose forced killed several hundred thousand AMERICANS, including my wife’s father.

  • WUSRPH

    Neither SB 9, Dan Patrick’s attempt to strangle state government, or HB 14, the anti-Planned Parenthood bill, have yet been placed on the House Calendar. This late in the session this probably means that both are DEAD. It is still “theoretically” possible for them to pass, but doing so would probably require a four-fifths vote some where in the process which should be impossible to get on either….I say “would probably require” as that would be required to pass HB 14 under the long-standing Senate Rules and precedents…but, as he proved on the first day of the session, Lt. Gov. Dannie does not appear to always follow the letter or intent of the rules if they stand in the way of accomplish one of his goals….However, passing either would probably require that more grease be applied to the legislative skids than the oil industry produces in a month…..Not likely, but I have seen it done.

  • WUSRPH

    Did you see the pictures out of Durham, North Carolina, of a group taking it on itself to remove a confederate statute? This might spread…..It reminds me of the scenes out of Hungary in 1956 and from throughout the rest of the old Soviet Bloc after the Iron Curtain came down and the Soviet Union collapsed. I guess you can only rub a symbol of their oppression in some people’s faces for just so long before they decide to do something about it.

  • WUSRPH

    My favorite confederate statute story is the one about the town in Georgia that only in the 1990s discovered that the statute of their local hero who they had honored for so long was, in fact, that of a Union soldier….It appears that most of the simple solider statutes of both Union and confederate soldiers were all cast by the same foundry in Philadelphia….with the only major difference between the Yankee and Johnny Reb versions being their caps and the initials on their belt buckles…..In this case, it seems that the foundry mixed up the order from a town in Maine for a Union Solider Model 1 with that from the Georgia town for a Rebel Model 1 and sent the wrong statutes to each town where they were duly mounted with great ceremony and where they proudly stood on the courthouse square of each town for nearly 100 years before somebody noticed that Johnny Reb’s belt buckle was inscribed with the letters “US” instead of “CSA”. I don’t know how it turned out, but there was some talk at the time about the two towns exchanging statutes.

  • WUSRPH

    The Senate added $212 million to HB 21 to fund problems in the teacher retirement system which it freely admits “is a separate thing” or a “separate bill”…This raises the interesting question of whether the Speaker can
    allow the Senate version of the bill to go back before the House for any vote—including a motion not to concur in Senate amendments—WITHOUT violating his own policy of not allowing bills that come back from the Senate in violation of the constitutional provision requiring that a bill deal with only one purpose or subject—the very rule and precedent he used on HB 17, the anti-tree cutting bill over the weekend. But, then consistency is a hobgoblin of small minds……but it will be interesting to see if Straus lets this slip by.

    Otherwise the Senate version includes no new money for all schools, the House version of the special aid for dyslexic and austictic children (but not vouchers), $60 million for facilities for charter schools (a whole new program), the “hardship grants” for the schools affected by the end of the ASATR program, a change in the small school penalty for a total cost of $313 million—-all of which is being funded by accounting tricks.

  • WUSRPH

    I admit that I do not know Sen. Van Taylor…I have never met him and know only what I have read and seen….I
    was long gone from the Capitol before he showed up….BUT he certainly did not impress me last night when I watching him raising questions about an amendment to HB 21. He seemed to be particularly confused about
    the fact that the amendment, which added a new grant program for dyslectic and autistic students to the bill, was creating a trial program to last for five years but was only being funded for two years. Sen. Huffman, the amendment’s author, tried to explain it to him, but, like most senators, she tried to be polite…..I, on the other hand, would have said something like: “Look stupid, the constitution says we can only fund things for a maximum of two years”. One would think that Taylor had been a member of the Senate long enough to learn that…but?

    • WUSRPH

      Some good news….Taylor wants to go to Congress….thus improving the Texas Senate (one would hope) but not likely doing much to improve the US House.

  • WUSRPH

    Talk about “taking things down to the wire”…because of the layout requirements before the House can take action on measures returned from the Senate with amendments ..It will be AFTER 2 AM Wednesday morning BEFORE the House can decide what to do on HB 7, the anti-tree bill and HB 21 and HB 30, the school finance bills. This means that there would be less than 10 hours left in the session to, for example, send the bills to a conference committee, get a CCR adopted, get the CCR report printed and distributed and take a final vote on the bills…..and it is likely at some point in the process likely to require a vote to suspend the rules to do any or all of that. This can only work if the terms of a CCR report are decided upon BEFORE sending the bills to a conference so that the conferees can “meet” (using the term very loosely) and adopt the report within minutes of the official creation of a CCR. There is a possibility that the House could spend the layout requirements when it meets today….but that is always a vote you would rather not have to take a chance on.

    The House has also not taken any action on the Senate’s request to go to a conference on SB 1, the property tax bill, but the House can act on that today and does not have to wait till the early morning hours of tomorrow.
    PS There is as, yet, no sign that the Speaker will send HB 21 back to the Senate under the “no non-germane amendments” rule but it is still early in the day. Where he to do that, it could add even more time to that required to pass the bill.

    All this suggests that a lot of grease will have to be applied to the legislative skids to get all of these bills passed….but it can—and has—happened before.

    • WUSRPH

      Oops. I based the number of hours they will have on their normal work hours. In theory, they could actually have about 21 hours.

      • WUSRPH

        As I suggested was possible, the House is going to try to suspend the layout rules for HB 7, HB 21 and HB 30 rather than wait until after 2 a.m. tomorrow to be able to act on them.
        Because it is apparently proceeding with HB 21 as if it was a regular measure, it appears that the Speaker has used a very b r o a d interpretation of the rule that says that bills with non-germane Senate amendments should be sent back to the Senate. He is either reading the caption as allowing funding for the TRS or he is just following the First Rule of the Legislature—i,e..–If the Leadership really wants to do something they will find a way (rules or no rules).

        • WUSRPH

          Not only did the Speaker decline to interpret the rule on non-germane Senate amendments, he ALSO overruled two points of order that raised that same point….I guess he really, really wants to pass the bill TODAY.

      • BCinBCS

        I based the number of hours they will have on their normal work hours.

        I remember seeing a news report many years ago where one of the branches of the legislature, in order to pass a piece of legislation on the final day, had someone climb on a desk and reset the chamber clock since the midnight deadline had come and passed.

        • WUSRPH

          It actually happened, but I think the last time it did in Texas was in 1969 or no later than 1971. It was usually to give them more time to do the paperwork, etc. needed to end a session—signing in the presence, etc…But there were occasions when the actually passed bills after the sine die time by freezing or rolling back the clock. I remember one occasion involving former Gov. Preston Smith, not one of our greatest governors but a man about who many stories are told, when he announced that he would veto any bills that were passed after the real midnight…..some 29, if I remember correctly….and then proceeded to veto 27 or so but not all of them because a couple of them were parts of his program and as such were his bills. But then, to slightly change a noted quote—-consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

          • BCinBCS

            OMG, 1969 or 1971.
            Am I really that old?

  • WUSRPH

    Is there a connection between The Most High’s rather tepid response to White Supremacy and the fact that his Administration (sic) has cancelled the grant that was supposed to help combat White Supremacist movements on the grounds that White Supremacy was not a problem in this country?

    http://tinyurl.com/yboy5lvz

    • WUSRPH

      I was asked how they distinguish the between White Supremacists and White Nationalists.

      That’s easy….They say that:

      White Supremacists believe that being White makes you superior to all other races or colors of people…

      White Nationalists, on the other hand, do not feel they are “superior” but only that God and the Founders wanted this to be a White, Christian (Protestant if at all possible) nation and that things work out for the better of all of us if different folks from different cultures, races, religions stay in their own places, separate from others. (OF course that Protestant part didn’t always work in places like Rhode Island where you had some “free thinkers” and even some Jews whom Washington somehow “welcomed” as fellow citizens and that small pocket of English WASCs (White, Anglo-Saxon Catholics) including some of my ancestors in Maryland.)

      See, it’s easy…..One group is racist….The other is not (SIC).

      • BCinBCS

        …if different folks from different cultures, races, religions stay in their own places, separate from others.

        Just how is that supposed to work today? Would we have black states and white states or would it be done on the county or city level? What would property owners do if they had to move? Would there be free commerce between the areas? Have these white nationalists really thought this through?

        This sounds a lot like India/Pakistan all over again.

        • WUSRPH

          Of course, it won’t work today or under our current constitution…but they can “dream” and “scheme” while waiting for a “New American Revolution”, which they hope to bring about.

        • WUSRPH

          What they have in mind is Apartheid South Africa.

  • WUSRPH

    House suspended the layout rule and concurred in HB 7….the anti-tree bill….another to the governor.

  • WUSRPH

    Well, folks, the Texas House just bent down, grabbed its ankles and turned its back to the Senate, voting to accept the Senate changes to HB 21 that abandoned any real chance of any real improvement in public education for the majority of the 5 million school children of Texas (AGAIN)…..The leadership was unwilling to even try to continue the fight into a conference committee….It rolled over and took what the Senate offered. SHAME.

    Now let us see if it has the guts and will to stand up for its positon on SB 1.

  • WUSRPH

    Well, at least the House will stand up to the Senate on SB 1…It has sine died WITHOUT GOING TO CONFERENCE. This means it has, in effect, told the Senate—“Take it our Leave It”…..The only way, in theory, that the bill can now be passed is for the Senate to reconsider its refusal to concur and concur….in the process accepting the House changes….and send it to the governor that way.

    I say, in theory, because back in 1979 the House in effect did the same thing on a workers comp bill…but, after the Senate agreed to some changes that were acceptable to the House, somehow in-sine died and came back to concur in Senate amendments. But, as I keep saying, the First Rule of the Legislature is “If the Leadership really wants to do something, they will find a way.”

  • WUSRPH

    The Senate refused to accept the House bill and voted to sine die, killing SB 1…..Whether the governor will call another special session for property tax “relief” and/or the bathroom bill is unknown…but Patrick dropped a couple of hints (or hopes) that the governor might call another special session. Maybe we will guess we will learn later tonight or tomorrow.

  • WUSRPH

    Adding up the good and the bad I have to say that overall it was a BAD session for the future of Texas…BUT it could have been much worse….Although there was never much chance that the “bathroom” bill would get thru the House, the fact that it didn’t pass—which would have put the State of Texas on record as favoring discrimination–is something. Plus much of the governor’s assault on local government failed and Dan Patrick’s continued effort to place garrotes around the fiscal throats of state and local governments failed (AGAIN)…..but it failed to do anything significant for public schools and continued the process of making it harder for a woman to exercise her constitutional rights and future hassled anyone who would help her….All in all, we would have been better off it if had never met.

  • WUSRPH

    One last note: Dan Patrick followed the session by lashing out at Speaker Straus….including with an insult that, if he had been at the Alamo, Straus would have slipped over the wall and run away…..Sounds like me that Patrick may well get actively involved in trying to defeat Straus and some of his top aides in the GOP Primary and for speaker should he be re-elected to the House…..This could get very, very nasty….I only hope that they don’t bring out that “we need a good Christian for speaker” attack (AGAIN).

  • WUSRPH

    Don’t you love the “moral equivalency” argument Trump and others use to try to make people think that protesting against racism is just as bad as protesting in favor of racism….Kind of reminds me of Kristallnacht in Germany in November of 1938 when a lot of ……..(censor says I can not use the word) Germans attacked German Jews and their businesses and synagogues (burning down many), killing dozens and rounding up thousands to send to concentration camps. They were supposedly “justified” by the shooting of a German diplomat in Paris by a young Pole who was reacting to this mistreatment of his parents who had lived in Germany but were deported to a “no man’s land” between Poland and Germany where they, and thousands of others, were left to starve….and because Jews, being Jews, by their very nature offended “good” Germans……The German government topped it all off by seizing any insurance payments German Jews received for damages to their property and levying a massive fine on the German Jewish Community for stirring up the good Germans to do such things.

    • WUSRPH

      PS. So it will be clear…If any of the anti-racists protestors committed an offense in Charlottesville they should be prosecuted…..just as should the racists……But don’t try to tell me that there is no MORAL difference between the goals and positions of the two groups…

      BYW, didn’t you love it when Trump’s old buddy Alex Jones said that many of those claiming to be KKK were Jews in disguise?

      • WUSRPH

        One last comment on statutes and protestors:

        I have to protest the description of Chief Justice of the SCOTUS Roger Taney as being a “confederate” as he is being described in stories about the removal of his statute and three other “confederate” monuments in Baltimore. There is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that Taney
        supported the confederacy…In fact, he continued to serve as chief justice of the UNITED STATES during the civil war up to his death in 1864. He was, in fact a “Jacksonian Democrat” and, as you should remember, Jackson was a violent opponent of secessionists. (Taney was also the first cabinet nominee to be rejected by the Senate and was also rejected when Jackson first tried to name him to the SCOTUS. The fact that he was a Roman Catholic may have played some part in those rejections.)

        He, of course, is most famous for the Dred Scott decision holding that the Founders did not intend for blacks to be citizens of the US or have any legal rights as citizens….While that may be a despicable ruling and was widely condemned (including by Lincoln before he became president) in all likelihood it was a correct interpretation of the law. If not, there would have been no need for the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the US Constitution. It is part of America’s shame that that was the case….but it is our history….

        So, Taney does not deserve to be brushed with the confederate traitor to the US brush.

        P.S. Not all his decision were “bad”….for example, many people today would praise his decision in Charles River Bridge v. Warren Bridge, in which the Court asserted that private property had a social responsibility, and contracts made by the legislature should be construed in
        the public interest.

      • BCinBCS

        It simply amazes me all of the false-flag operations that liberals pull on the radical-right. Too bad the liberals have besmirched the reputation of the conservatives. If only America actually knew what saints the radical-right are.

        • WUSRPH

          Me too…I was shocked to learn the truth from Alex Jones….Who would have thought that most of those folks in the KKK outfits chatting bad things about Jews were actually JEWS in disguise trying to stir up trouble and give the peaceful racists a bad name…..

  • WUSRPH

    •Why do the pictures of the vigil ceremony in Charlottesville tonight of thousands with lighted candles look so differently from earlier images of the torch-bearing marching columns of racists, KKK, White Supremacists and, according to Trump, lovers of Robert E. Lee? Is it the look on their faces…One group with love, hope and sorrow…The other with so much hate and fear of their fellow man.