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The Blessings of a Tough Budget Outlook

The Eighty-fifth Legislature will not have a surplus to squabble over.

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One of the most flatly wrong predictions I have ever made was that the Eighty-fourth Legislature, in 2015, would be a comparatively sane one. Texas economic indicators told me that the legislators returning to Austin that year could expect a comparatively sunny Biennial Revenue Estimate. In other words, they would be able to maintain the spending levels in the well-constructed budget the Eighty-third Legislature passed in 2013, plus, perhaps, make new investments in critical priorities such as infrastructure and education. Furthermore, the new statewide officials who would be sworn in that January would, I thought, be able to take a break from campaign mode, since they wouldn’t face another election until 2018.

Boy, was that naive. I was right about the budget outlook, but completely failed to anticipate that the Texas Senate would seek to allocate our state’s scarce resources to property tax “relief” rather than doing something even remotely useful with that money. I would not have expected Texas Republicans to target Medicaid Acute Care Therapy the way that they did; I’m not a fan of Medicaid myself, or the outsized share of state spending allocated to it, but that’s literally the part of the program that provides lifesaving therapy to poor and disabled kids—or used to, at least. Furthermore, I would not have expected a grown man in high office, like Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, to be more easily intimidated by constitutional-carry activists than I am; Texas DPS can’t fully protect a statewide official, I guess, from the Ghost of Republican Primary Future.

Over the past two days, then, I’ve been oddly relieved by updates from the Texas Taxpayers and Research Association’s annual meeting, which confirm that everyone agrees about one thing, at least: next year, the Lege won’t have a surplus to squabble over. Although Texas has not fallen into recession, despite feverish speculation about the implications of the fall in oil prices that began in the second half of 2015, our economic growth has softened. The state’s overall revenue collections, correspondingly, are more or less flat. The comptroller, Glenn Hegar, isn’t sounding the alarm about a looming shortfall and–given the state’s economic indicators, I don’t expect that the 2018-19 Biennial Revenue Estimate, which will be released in about three months, will project one. But Hegar has been warning the Legislature that the next BRE won’t be padded by several billion dollars leftover from the current fiscal biennium. Dale Craymer, president of TTARA, is among the analysts warning that we should therefore expect budget cuts: the Eighty-fifth Legislature won’t have less to work with than the Eighty-fourth Legislature did, two years ago, but it will have to make the money go further, for various reasons.

Public education, which makes up the largest share of state spending, helps illustrate the issue. The Texas Supreme Court upheld our state’s system of school finance in May, ruling that current funding levels are sufficient to pass constitutional muster. Democrats would like to do more than the minimum, though, as would some Republicans; Larry Taylor, the Senate Education Chair, indicated this morning that his is among them, because investments in education are investments in our future workforce. In any case, the number of students enrolled in Texas public schools has grown. Furthermore, the federal government has ordered Texas to scrap the artificial cap on enrollment in special education that Brian Rosenthal, reporting for the Houston Chronicle, has exposed. Meanwhile, Dan Patrick clearly wants to revisit the issue of vouchers. The Eighty-fifth Legislature’s ability to focus on big-picture issues will be imperiled, once again, by politics. But its ability to squander the state’s scarce resources on political pet causes will be imperiled by the next Biennial Revenue Estimate; the revenue Texas will collect over the next two years is, by and large, already spoken for.

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  • John Bernard Books

    I sincerely hope legislators get serious about education reform and pass vouchers. It is time to tell the feds, unions and the educrats to take a hike. I’d like to see less IYIs and more emphasis on skill based education, ie how to run a small business etc. No we do not need anymore pedants especially lawyers and government workers. We’re azz deep in them now.

    • Unwound

      i sincerely hope legislators get serious about confiscating your money and using it towards quality liberal arts education.

      • John Bernard Books

        I’ve never been impressed by threats by looters….come and take it nancyb https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5ee86f88c534a084c80b568054805de3ebaefdebd832a9511f2ca6afed13be66.jpg

        • Unwound

          im sure theyve already taken it. you file your taxes yearly dont you?

          or are you a tax dodger like trump?

          • John Bernard Books

            If you socialist feel that way about taxes, I have no problem letting your dummazz pay mine.

          • Unwound

            So you’re admitting youre a tax cheat

          • John Bernard Books

            nope….but I’m glad to see you’re admitting you’re a demmazz…..

          • Unwound

            What does that even mean idiot

    • BCinBCS

      Lick that icing, child, keep licking that icing.

      • John Bernard Books

        cut cut cut…how does feel to lose so often?

        • Unwound

          You tell us. Dewhurst 6-8 pts

          • John Bernard Books

            Windy>,,,,hahaha you losers always forget.

          • Unwound

            I love that conservatives are dumb enough that they think puns are cutting humor. I cant wait to be called “libtard”

          • John Bernard Books

            Why you’re just a plain ol everyday socialist with your hand out.

          • Unwound

            Well you’re half right. And I’m pretty sure I pay more in taxes than you do, and I take less.

      • Wilson James

        Just block him. It is easy and almost everyone enjoys the “This user blocked” coming up 20 times a day….

  • WUSRPH

    The problem you have not faced—-because it is so unreasonable—is that the Dan Patrick’s of this world WANT EVEN MORE CUTS in Govt. while at the same time diverting what is left to things like charter schools and, especially, vouchers…..

    You didn’t mention, for example, that Patrick is going to try to again push through a plan to strangle future state governments by “tightening” the spending cap and expanding it to the rest of the state budget.

    We will get a good sign of how far Patrick intends to underfund such things as public (non-charter, non-voucher) education and public health, etc. by the growth formula for non-dedicated general revenue spending he tries to push through the LBB later this Fall. I suspect that he will push for one that, effectively, limits the growth in the budget to 2 to 3 percent, which won’t even cover the cost of increased student growth in the public schools much less than increased cost of health care. I also expect he will lay out a proposed spending cap for the rest of the budget based on the idea that the new cap had been adopted by the last session, and instruct the Senate Finance Committee to report a budget that falls within that limit. And, I would not put it past him to try to pass a further (in not final) cut in the franchise tax AND additional property tax “relief”. (And don’t forget he has had Bettencourt roaming the state proclaiming the need to limit local spending and taxes just like he wants to limit the state’s.)

    The House, meanwhile, will be trying—once again–to at least meet the state’s minimum needs—all the while being attacked for being big spenders….The final result, I fear, will be like last time—a state budget that barely meets the cost of the growth in the state’s population and does nothing to really address its long-term needs. All in all, not an optimistic picture.

    • WUSRPH

      Note: Part of the cause of this tight budget was the decision by the last legislature to effectively reduce its available revenues next time by more than $9.1 billion. This constitutes the amount that now is either lost in revenues from the various tax cuts or which must be spent for newly dedicated purposes, all of which would otherwise be available for the next budget. Many in the Legislature recognized the danger they were creating for themselves but the Senate leadership did not care. It only wanted to take credit for tax cuts that meant little or nothing and to tie the hand of future legislators. It achieved both of its goals.

      • WUSRPH

        One other point…..other than a tight budget being a “blessing” because it concentrates the legislature’s attention on important questions, in my experience it has just the opposite effect.

        When there is no money to spend……a legislator’s mind turns to what can he do to attract attention that does not involve money…..More often than not, that turns out to be something dealing with “a social issue” or the “red meat” kinds of things that attractive attention but have no real cost to the state.

        Guns, abortion limits, who gets to use what bathrooms, “standing up to the feds” are all the kinds of things that fall within that category……With no money to spend—and no ability to take credit for some new program—they may be all a fellow has to get noticed…..

        • Jay Trainor

          The last great Lt. Gov we had (and too briefly) was Bill Ratliff. The Texas Senate has only gone downhill since.

          How did Texans become so uncaring about how our state government uses our tax dollars?

          • don76550

            Dan Patrick is the best Lt Gov we have ever had.

          • pwt7925

            Seriously? No way. He’s probably the biggest publicity hound Lt. Gov. we’ve ever had. But the best? Not even close.

          • don76550

            I look at what he has done in office and it has been outstanding

          • BCinBCS

            I honestly would like for you to enumerate those policies and positions that you find so outstanding.

          • pwt7925

            He’s trampled anyone between him and a camera, for one.

          • Bandara Carlos
      • BCinBCS

        I distinctly remember you commenting that this might happen during the last session.
        Good catch.
        (Perhaps you should resume working at the state capitol.)

      • Mike

        What Property Tax Relief….? My Property taxes in Limestone have gone up 80% over the last 5 years…. Ridiculous! Not only do I not get relief, but I don’t see any improvements, and our Government still keeps cutting budgets (Like money to keep our overcrowded prisons afloat). I don’t know who all these cuts are benefitting…. but certainly not me or mine.

    • John Bernard Books

      MeNDan cut cut cut deal with it……

      • Unwound

        Lol yeah that’s a whole lot of money he’s putting back in your bank account. Maybe you can afford new wheels for your Rascal

        • BCinBCS

          😉

        • John Bernard Books

          Some of us don’t live for handouts….scraps off the table.

          • Unwound

            You put that right. Scraps is all he’s giving back from his “cut cut cut”

          • John Bernard Books

            get off your lazy azz and work for it if you want it. Its the American way.
            if you Canadians want handouts then get you a beggars cup and a corner.
            Nothing in life is free and there is satisfaction in earning what you have….you should try it.

          • Unwound

            How many times are you going to edit this

      • Jay Trainor

        Please share your religious affiliation. What church teaches greed over caring and community?

        • John Bernard Books

          enlighten us which church teaches abortion, gay marriage…etc etc etc…

    • Jed

      agreed. i’m not sure how long one has to live in texas to learn that cuts are always on tap.

      i wouldn’t think it would take that long, but apparently longer than erica has been here.

  • WUSRPH

    Two events of notice:

    Paxton WINS ONE. The federal judge has dismissed the Securities & Exchange Commission’s civil law suit against him on the grounds that Paxton had no legal responsibility to tell those who he was advising that he would make a commission if they followed his advice.

    Trump’s “groping” of woman–and his justifying it because he is “a star”—has been revealed in a 2005 audio tape. His campaign says it was just “locker room talk”.

    • jammerjim

      The impeccable timing of Ted Cruz. It’s like getting the last ticket for the Titanic*.

      * I wish I could take credit for that

      • BCinBCS

        Trumps groping video appears to be a two-fer; first it has nearly every high ranking Republican taking back their endorsement of Trump and second, Ted Cruz’s ill timed endorsement of Trump will undoubtedly come back to bite him in the butt.

    • Unwound

      cmon gimme a break. this stuff isnt a big deal to republicans. they dont care. any pearl clutching about something like this is idiotic, anyone whos been paying any attention at all shouldnt be surprised.

      and fwiw, im sure he was telling the truth that hes heard worse from bill clinton.

      • WUSRPH

        But then it is the GOP that keeps trying to tell us that it is the party of “family values” and “morality”……..I guess three marriages, multiple affairs, including public ones while you are married, and bragging about your success is a new “Family Value”.

        The GOP has this problem….They want to say terrible things about Bill Clinton (and Hillary, too, who they are “hinting” had an affair with no evidence at all)…BUT there boy has outdone Bill several times over and has bragged about it.
        Some of us are old enough to remember when Richard Nixon attacked Harry Truman for his cussing…..and GOP religious leaders joined in saying it was so inappropriate for our nation’s leader and set such a bad example…….and then they were all “shocked” when they heard the tapes and found out that Nixon outdid Truman in every way….And then not that many years ago, Newt of the many marriages and affairs impeached Bill Clinton for not telling the truth about fooling around with an intern…..And the GOP was so shocked at the example Bill was setting.

        But I guess times have changed. We no longer care if a candidate for president has the personal morals of six alley cats and, unlike Warren G. Harding and JFK, doesn’t even try to hide it but brags about it.

        P.S. I apologize for even bringing up this subject, especially since it means so little……I really hoped that we could have some discussion of the budget issues, of what we think is the purpose of State government and of what we believe its priorities should be—-all of which should, in theory, shape the budget the legislature will adopt next year.

        • Unwound

          the “establishment” has talked about those things. the base never cared unless they could use it against someone they hate (clinton)

          • WUSRPH

            I guess you include a lot of allegedly Christian ministers in the “establishment”……But you may be right about people not caring.

            The late US Rep. Charlie Wilson represented parts of East Texas that are at the heart of the “Bible Belt”, but was well-known for “catting around”. Despite his personal behavior, Wilson kept getting elected term after term. I finally decided that his personal behavior made no real difference to his constituents for two reasons:

            First, he was one of the best in Congress at “constituent service” and,

            Secondly–and probably more importantly—because at least half the men in the district envied him and at least half of the women dreamed about being the object of his romantic mood.

          • Unwound

            youre going to see pat robertson either ignoring this or brushing it aside. they dont care about republican bad behavior unless its a redemption story.

            liberals for their part dont either, but at least they make a show of caring about it, or at least they care less about it than more about serious moral transgressions, like cops killing black people indiscriminately, or bombing civilians in other countries.

          • BCinBCS

            What bothers me as much as the rancid treatment of women by conservatives is their hypocrisy.

          • Unwound

            Liberals are just as bad

          • BCinBCS

            Liberals are no saints but “just as bad”? No. Not even close.

          • Unwound

            Theyre just fine with endless war and state surveillance as long as they’re the ones waging it. Bombing weddings? Eh, that’s just keeping us safe. Theyll play the woke game but in the end do what theyre told by corporate.

          • Jed

            who is “they”?

            when is the last time you protested a war? i can tell you that i last did it during the obama administration.

          • Unwound

            Oh good, a woke off.

            Marched with BLM in August.

            I’m not under the mistaken impression that marches make any sort of difference on national policy, especially where military industrial complex money is at stake. Instead I give my money and support to candidates who work for societies interest.

          • Jed

            sure, me too. but i also don’t characterize “liberals” as being “fine with war.” his foreign policy is one of the reasons i don’t consider obama the best president of my lifetime.

            ps – “woke off”?
            pps – blm is not an anti-war group.

          • Unwound

            Oh yeah and “they” are clintonian liberals/neoconservative Dlc third way’ers and those who vote for them

          • Jed

            ok, but again, clinton voter here, what most people would consider a liberal, but really a progressive who just understands math.

            you can’t tar us all with the same brush. i vote democrat because its platform is most closely aligned with my ideals. seldom is there a candidate with whom i am in lockstep agreement, however. i just know better than to expect one.

          • Unwound

            thats great, and i applaud you for your anti war views. clintons foreign policy is to the right of anyone who was on the GOP debate stage except maybe graham, and her actions are going to make you nostalgic for the bush era.

          • Unwound

            to dovetail to this, something i read recently:

            “Look, vote for whoever you’re going to vote for. But let’s be frank — things are bad, and the two people most likely to take the White House are very, very dumb and irrational, both sharing in a collective delusion that America can bomb its way to peace in the Middle East.”

            clinton is likely the last gasp of boomer centrism, and to that i say, thank god.

          • Jed

            “clinton is likely the last gasp of boomer centrism, and to that i say, thank god.”

            good luck with that. the right has imploded and the left has been afraid of its shadow since fdr died.

            there is nothing left but centrism. not that i’m happy about it, obviously. and if anyone (like bernie) gets any crazy ideas, the media is there to put them in their place.

          • Unwound

            millenials (not one myself, im 39) are by and large far more liberal than clintonian boomers. sanders may be in his 70s, but he kicked off something of a small revolution. they dont want endless war and they arent willing to tolerate the most vulnerable parts of society being left behind. the term “socialism” is no longer a dirty word.

          • Jed

            maybe. they also won’t drive the bus for another 40 years. we’ll see what their politics look like then.

            meanwhile, check back with me when you see the democratic candidates on offer for 2024.

          • Unwound

            you mean whoever the party decides to run against president tom cotton?

          • Jed

            what i mean is, the democrats will clearly be running hrc again in 2020. right? whether she wins reelection or not is impossible to say from here.

            but the point is the next time there will be an open competition for the democratic nomination will be 2024. so if they nominate a leftist then, i’ll admit you were right about the end of centrism.

            meanwhile, if you think tom cotton is the GOP solution in 2020, be my guest. that guy knows about as much about running a nation as trump.

          • Unwound

            that doesnt mean he cant win. most of the other GOP candidates have serious self inflicted wounds. and hes just awful enough to carry the nom.

          • BCinBCS

            You make a great point Unwound. It’s definitely the conservatives who are fighting for fewer wars and repeals of the Patriot Act, as well as fighting for voting rights, civil rights and gender rights. And don’t get me started on how they insist on helping refugees and welcoming all religions to the U.S.

          • Unwound

            some conservatives have been.

            clinton backed the war in iraq. she also was the primary advocate for intervention in libya. she voted for the patriot act. she wants more intervention in syria. she didnt come around on gay marriage until it was politically convenient to do so. she called black people superpredators. i can go on.

          • Unwound

            oh wait. trump apologized anyway

          • BCinBCS

            Speaking of Trump apologies:

            Back in 1989, a woman was raped and beaten while jogging in Central Park in New York City. Five youths were apprehended. Two weeks after their arrest Donald Trump took out a full page ad in the New York Times call for the death penalty, an action one of the accused men called “the fire starter”. Confessions were coerced out of them and they were sentenced to prison. Twenty years later, DNA evidence proved their innocence and indicated the true rapist who confessed. NYC recently awarded them forty million dollars for the wrongful imprisonment.

            And Trump, the death penalty cheerleader?

            Trump believes that despite the fact that they are innocent that they should still be in prison. He said “They admitted they were guilty. The police doing the original investigation say they were guilty. The fact that the case was settled with so much evidence against them is outrageous.”

            I’m sure that the fact that the Central Park 5 are four African-Americans and one Latino had nothing to do with his attitude.

          • Unwound

            This might actually be the thing about him that disgusts me most. But you’d also see nearly the same behavior from any Texas GOP candidate or DA

          • WUSRPH

            Now, that’s far more than enough on this subject.
            Let’s talk budget and spending priorities.

        • BCinBCS

          WUSRPH wrote: “The GOP has this problem….They want to say terrible things about Bill Clinton (and Hillary, too, who they are “hinting” had an affair with no evidence at all)…BUT there boy has outdone Bill several times over and has bragged about it.

          And here’s Hitler’s reaction to the latest Trump revelation:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FCSDo_t_Y&feature=youtu.be

          • WUSRPH

            Fantastic.

      • jammerjim

        It ain’t the GOP I’m thinking about here. It’s the undecideds and the independents. Plus a few leaners. I mean, with Trump the hits just keep coming. As for Cruz, it just makes him look silly, which I very much enjoy.

        • Unwound

          Who’s undecided at this point?? The “I’m really racist but I hate his comments on women” crowd?? You might as well just say “nonvoters”. Unless youre counting on people like me who can’t bring themselves to vote for Clinton, which again, nonvoting in the federal election.

          Anything that makes cruz look bad is manna from heaven. Except for the fact that it leaves a void for Tom cotton to fill in 2020

          • Jed

            “Unless youre counting on people like me who can’t bring themselves to vote for Clinton, ”

            pathetic.

          • Unwound

            ¯_(ツ)_/¯

            Not really. Stop throwing garbage candidates at men and maybe I’ll vote Democrat again.

            Besides, you’re acting like a vote in Texas means something. It doesn’t. I’m more preoccupied with downballot races and more worried about the dem bloodbaths coming in ’18 and ’20

          • Wilson James

            Sorta like the GOP bloodbath going on now?

          • Unwound

            It’ll look something like that yes. Only I don’t think the Dems are going to make up enough ground at senate house and states levels this election to compare how bad the future losses will be.

          • jammerjim

            Amazingly, most people don’t pay attention to politics like those of us who comment on these articles. The conventions and the the debates may have been when they first looked up.

          • Unwound

            with the media saturation and coverage we’ve been seeing for the last year and a half? youd have to have absconded to the mountains jeremiah johnson style to be undecided at this point.

      • BCinBCS

        Sure he’s heard worse from Bill. Don’t believe Trump? Just as Hannity!

        • Unwound

          Or for that matter, gore

          • BCinBCS

            ??

          • Unwound

            Nope I got it. I was just saying that I’m sure gore could say he’s heard worse from bill as well

      • Shelly H.

        That’s a failure as an argument and as an excuse. Bill is not running for office.

        • Unwound

          no, but youre very naive if you think hes got no hand in the campaign or the presidency that will follow

          • Shelly H.

            Where did I say or imply that? Of course he has input into the campaign and will have input to her presidency. Last I checked he was still her husband and they appear to have an amicable marriage in spite of all their past problems. He was actually a pretty good president in spite of what Republicans wish to believe, and has experience that she can draw on – why is that a bad thing? Regardless, Bill is not running and hasn’t really been that much of a public presence during her campaign. Trying to convict Hillary of Bill’s crimes is a non-starter.

            You don’t defend deplorable actions by pointing to another’s also deplorable actions. That’s called deflection. It implies that the deplorable actions are justified or acceptable. Let me spell it out here, they’re not. If you wouldn’t accept that excuse from your child why would you accept it from an adult?

            I keep hearing the refrain that Bill hasn’t apologized – we don’t know that. The only persons he owed apologies to, were to Hillary and the women who were dragged through the mud for being involved with him. None of which required him to issue a public apology. I find it interesting that there haven’t been any allegations against Bill since he left office. He’s never been caught on tape saying degrading things about women.

          • Unwound

            im not convicting her of his crimes. but im also not going to act like her associating with a sexual predator doesnt make me further call into question her judgement.

          • Shelly H.

            There were two so-called allegations. One sexual harassment suit that was most likely politically motivated, and one rape allegation that at the time didn’t meet the criteria to go to trial. Yes I know the latter allegation was in the 80’s when the standards to prosecute were a very high bar that didn’t allow her case to be seriously considered. That one is troubling but there have been no allegations since then by victims themselves. The former, the Paula Jones was rife with lot’s of allegations most of which were false on examination.

            Broaddrick testified under oath that Bill did not assault or harass her – so either she perjured herself back then or she is lying now. Either way she is no longer credible and shouldn’t be considered. Every other affair/incident was consensual, even Monica Lewinsky.

            So does that make him a sexual predator? Maybe. Maybe not. There’s not really a standard definition that applies.

            TLDR; I’m not worried about her judgement over staying with him – one issue does not define a marriage or a person. Hilary’s record on women’s issues, family issues, children’s issues speaks volumes over whether or not her decision to stay with Bill was right or not.

          • Jed

            “I’m not worried about her judgement over staying with him”

            whatever you may think of infidelity, no one should ever criticize someone for staying in a marriage after their partner strays.

            after all, that is *exactly* what you promise to do in the standard wedding vows. if it was a categorically stupid thing to do, why would virtually all of us promise to do it?

          • Shelly H.

            I was specifically addressing unwound’s comment of

            “but im also not going to act like her associating with a sexual predator doesnt make me further call into question her judgement.”

            Which I interpreted to be a judgement against her staying with her husband.

            I fully agree with you Jed. I’m sorry if my words gave the wrong impression.

          • Jed

            i wasn’t criticizing your comment so much as criticizing this entire line of discussion, which is prevalent among clinton haters.

            i have seen a lot of responses lately (here and elsewhere) that seek to respond to the clinton haters on their own terms, when i think the more appropriate response is simply to point out the fallacy of the critique.

          • Shelly H.

            Oh, my apologies then. I misunderstood what you were criticizing.

          • Unwound

            he sucks and so does she. i never have nor will i ever vote for either for anything.

          • BCinBCS

            Then that means that you support Trump and that casts quiet a shadow over your character.

          • Unwound

            thats ridiculous. im not voting for him.

          • BCinBCS

            This election is a binary choice, either you are for Trump or you are for Hillary. Abstaining from voting is a de facto vote for the worst candidate and the overwhelming worst choice in this election is Trump.

          • Unwound

            i didnt say i wasnt voting, i said i wasnt voting for her. or for him.

          • BCinBCS

            Then I repeat, that vote is a de facto vote for the worst candidate and the overwhelming worst choice in this election is Trump.

          • Unwound

            thats a moronic statement. a vote for who i vote for is a vote for that person. its not a vote for trump.

          • BCinBCS

            You can’t grasp the significance of my statement yet I’m the moron.
            Oh well.
            (This election is a binary choice is the key if you decide to give understanding another try.)

          • Unwound

            Youre acting as if Texas is in play. It’s not. If youre in a swing state and youre comfortable voting for Clinton, go with god. I’m not period. Stop giving me terrible candidates if you want my vote.

    • John Bernard Books

      Come on can’t you and you’re ilk fabricate another phony charge against Gen Paxton…..

      • BCinBCS

        Do you think that discussing the Texas budget will somehow stop our race to catch up with the failed policies of Sam Brownback in Kansas and Scott Walker in Wisconsin? At least the voters of Louisiana had the good common sense to get rid of Bobby Jindal who had tried to join the race. Too bad that there are too many uninformed like you’n’Dan who vote in this state.

        • WUSRPH

          Unfortunately, Bobby Jindal did not leave the governorship in Louisiana because of “the good common sense” of the voters of that state. It was term limits, not smart voters.

  • John Bernard Books

    WASSUP insisted on taking the thread off topic again so I have a question for the gopher. Didn’t you guarantee Paxton was guilty of something?
    “A judge has thrown out the federal civil case accusing Attorney General Ken Paxton of securities fraud, giving him his biggest legal victory yet since the allegations surfaced more than a year ago. ”
    https://www.texastribune.org/2016/10/07/judge-dismisses-sec-case-against-paxton/

    Hutichson, Delay, now Paxton why do dems insist on filing phony charges against repubs often wasting wasting millions in tax dollars?

  • John Bernard Books

    Remember what ex-Speaker Pelosi said, “if we can drag them down to our level, we win.”
    The race is now in the gutter, when dems live.

  • John Bernard Books

    Clinton’s attack on Obamacare scripted by WH?
    “When Bill Clinton recently criticized ObamaCare as “the craziest thing in the world,” it looked to everyone like he had given Donald Trump a stick to beat Hillary with at their second presidential debate this Sunday at Washington University in St. Louis.
    According to multiple sources both in the White House and the Clinton campaign, Bill was following a carefully crafted script that was poll tested and endorsed by his wife and Barack Obama.”
    http://nypost.com/2016/10/07/bill-clintons-obamacare-rant-was-scripted-and-approved-by-obama/

    How does that make you feel BS….they play you idiots like a violin.

    • BCinBCS

      I can’t quite call this a sixth repeat of your previous lies about Bill Clinton’s statement because it is probably an ancillary lie about his statement. I say that it is probably a lie because when I went to fact check it the only source that I could find was the New York Post article to which you linked plus a bunch of conservative sites that reprinted the Post article. So let’s call this your fifth and a half lie about Bill’s statement until I can find a definitive source.

  • Jay Trainor

    As a non-native Texan, Dan Patrick clearly doesn’t understand that there’s nothing more important to us than ensuring our kids get a good education. Public schools are the core which Texas communities are built around. It’s more than the “Friday Nights” that binds us. We all want a better future for our kids and grand kids. Dan Patrick is bent on pandering to private schools which focus’ on profit rather than providing a well-rounded modern education for all kids whether gifted or not.

    Taxpayers been waiting patiently for the Texas Supreme Court to fix what legislators is unwilling to do, provide an equitable system of funding for all students. Unfortunately, while highly critical of the current system, the court decided to punt the issue back to the Lege.

    Texas Senate candidates would be wise to let the Texas House come up with a plan that not only does no harm to our public schools but increases the percentage of the budget dedicated to public schools while eliminating the scandalous stories of districts paying $70 million to build football stadiums while other districts suffer from inadequate and substandard classrooms.

    I urge Texas voters to use this next month to quiz the candidates for all public office, finding out where they stand on funding public education. If their priority is school vouchers, vote for someone else – regardless of party affiliation. Are kids are too important to let politics get in the way.

  • WUSRPH

    Talk about public school finding and “quirks” in the budget system:
    Did you know that the taxpayers in the Austin ISD pay more than $400 million in taxes that is raised locally BUT cannot be spent to educate Austin’s school children? Instead, the money is sent to the State which uses it to offset the cost to the State of public school aid to other districts in the State. As such, the people of Austin…..in addition to paying for their own schools–are paying property taxes that educate kids all over the state IN ADDITION TO any taxes they pay directly to the State.

    This is the result of the so-called “Robin Hood” or “recapture” plan adopted by the Leg. back in the early 1990s. The original idea was to “cap” the spending in the so-called “property rich districts” by not letting them take advantage of their abilities to raise so much more with much lower property tax rates. But instead it just became a way for the State to avoid meeting its obligations to public education by sucking up money from districts such as Austin.

  • WUSRPH

    Does anyone buy Trump’s “it will make me a better man” apology? Personally, I have a problem with either deathbed or “eve of elections” conversions.

  • WUSRPH

    “Perspective”—a word and a concept I often refer to…..Talking about the latest Trump fiasco of his “locker room talk” about groping women:

    What would be the “proper perspective” for how we should treat the news about the video. Most “newspapers” and “media outlets” (one line and hard copy) played the story fairly big….

    For example, the Austin A-S ran it on the front page with a three line two column wide headline placed just above the fold with the coverage jumping over to another page.. That kind of placement means that the story was of deemed to be of some importance.

    The Wall Street Journal, on the other hand, ran a one-column wide picture of Trump with a relatively small type headline of “Vulgar Video Trips up Trump” and one-sentence of text—which began with the word “Apology” in all capitol letters below the picture ending with A4, which is a reference to more on an internal page of the paper and placed it below the fold near the bottom of the page—-coverage that clearly downplays the event.

    Which of these gave the story the “proper perspective”–I.e.—which gave the story the coverage it deserved among Friday’s events?

  • WUSRPH

    Was it really that long ago when people were talking about Jimmy Carter’s revelation that he had “sinned in the heart” by lusting after a woman to today when we have a major presidential candidate talking about “grabbing them by the……….” ? Trump claims it was “just locker room talk” (as if that excuses it) that was just between two guys…..but how does he explain his several times going on Howard Stern’s radio show where sex is about the only thing they talk about? Was broadcasting vulgar comments over the air ways just between two guys?

    On to Sunday night….30 days to go!

    • Too Sweet

      Does this new revelation really tell us anything about Trump’s character that we didn’t already know?

      • BCinBCS

        We’ve known bout the sewage, now we’re learning how deep it is.

  • John Johnson

    I don’t like Donald Trump; I dislike Hillary more. One has a crass lockeroom demeanor; the other has 30+ years of lying, and deceitful actions perpetrated on U.S. citizens. How can anyone pound on Trump for his indescretions, and still revere Bill, JFK, FDR, and even Jefferson as great Presidents. I thought we decided after Bill Clinton’s chain of sexual dalliances that we should separate bedroom from the Oval Office. Just saying.

    This election is a joke. One we brought on ourselves. Whoever is elected, I hope we learn from it. We are the laughing stock of the world right now. The most qualified won’t run; the most qualified, we probably know nothing about because they are not shills for big money; they do not have massive egos; and they will not put those they love through media meat grinder. I just know one thing…I do not want another career politician as our President.

    I will hold my nose and vote for Trump.

    • BCinBCS

      JJ: “I will hold my nose and vote for Trump.

      Of course you will.
      Most Presidential elections have an October surprise, Trump’s has an Advent calender.*
      (and yet you’ll still vote for the grifter.)

      *this quote blatantly stolen by me from another source

      • John Johnson

        I am truly worn out over the posts here. No minds are being changed. It is a closed loop. How many times can we all say the same thing? I hate Hillary; I am close to hating Trump. I am voting for him. I think most who have said they are going to will still do so. We will find out shortly who wins, and move on. Nothing you pedants keep posting here will change that. It is just more of the same stuff. If a bombshell is dropped from anywhere on either of them in the last few weeks, I highly doubt votes will change. My opinion.

        • Unwound

          i agree. why are we still litigating this? youre comfortable with voting for a fascist, thats clear. im not sure why anyone is still engaging this.

    • WUSRPH

      Name me a great president who was not a career politician or who had not held one or more political offices before becoming president?
      You’ll probably try to claim Washington but you will have to overlook that he was a member of the Virginia House of Burgesses and was active in politics for years before the Revolution…

      • John Johnson

        I can’t. Won’t even try. There are no Teddy R’s in the picture…a man who had the pedigree and money and family political background to simply follow backing the elitests and promote more of the same. Where would we be today without the Square Deal? Seriously, where would we be? The middle class would be non-existent. Do you see no similarities to what was happening then and now?

        • WUSRPH

          The middle class, as we know it today, was more the result of the New Deal rather than the Square Deal which was another Roosevelt. However, there are similarities today between then and now as to the concentration of wealth and ownership.

          • John Johnson

            I disagree. If the railroad, banking and utility barons had not had Teddy’s Square Deal to harness them, what would FDR had done to rein them in? After all, they were his buddies. They were his supporters. Teddy was an abnormality in U.S. politics. He ran totally against the grain.

          • BCinBCS

            I think that you are giving short shrift to how hard FDR had to fight against his buddies to pass his New Deal legislation.

          • WUSRPH

            Anyone who can suggest that the bankers, financiers and industrial leaders were FDR’s “buddies” needs to go back to Jr. High School and take a course in American History. Those “buddies” spent years fighting the New Deal with every tool they could find. Among the nicer things they called FDR was “a traitor to his class.” Please do not make declarations about things you know nothing about.

          • John Johnson

            Everyone hated Hoover…even many prominent Repub’s supported FDR. He won in a landslide.

          • WUSRPH

            Go look at the campaign of 1936 it you want to know what FDR’s “buddies” thought of him.

          • John Johnson

            “With that, I dug in, determined to better understand FDR’s true character. And I found what I sought. From the correspondence between FDR and two of his friends, bankers James Perkins, chairman of National City Bank (now Citigroup) and Winthrop Aldrich, chairman of Chase (now JP Morgan Chase), I began to understand how FDR became known as a bank reformer and that it wasn’t really the will of the population that pressed FDR to reform banking as he did; it was the will of these men. They had more in common with FDR – from status to money to yachts – than any of them had in common with farmers, or shopkeepers, or factory workers.”
            http://fortune.com/2014/03/19/the-bankers-behind-fdr-and-the-glass-steagall-act/

          • WUSRPH

            One quote does not a history make…The fact that two leaders of the industry could see the problems of unregulated banking, and the need for the FDIC to protect depositors, does not make what FRD did some sort of pro-banking conspiracy with his “buddies”.

            Are you also going to attack him for the Glass-Steagall Act (passed under FDR in 1933) which you keep citing as the answer to most of the nations problems, because it kept banks from getting into JP Morgan’s financing business?

            Similarly, I’m certain you think that the Securities & Exchange Commission was some sort of a conspiracy by Wall Street?

            And, of course, the National Labor Relations Act of 1935 was some sort of a plot to insure the control of labor by management…..

            Your fixations blind you to reality.Things are never as simple and simplistic as you think they are.

          • John Johnson

            I love Glass-Stegall. I don’t hate FDR. I was applauding Teddy and you had to add “yeah but’s”. You can’t stay focused on one specific topic… you constantly have to expand so you can play teacher. You are a pedant extraordinaire. It grows old.

          • WUSRPH

            You were trying to defend your ridiculous statement that FDR was “buddies” with the bankers, etc. and I was trying to put things into “perspective”–that concept you hate.

          • John Johnson

            Elitests help elect FDR in ’32. As the Forbes piece indicates he remained close to many of them. I think I made my point.

            With regards to Teddy, he is one of my favorites. He totally rained on the Big’s parade. You can obfuscate all you want to. Unbeknownst to you, you are not the final authority on anything.

          • WUSRPH

            I never claimed to be the “final” or even “an authority” on anything….but I could not let pass your statement that FDR would have done nothing to fight “The BIgs” because—-as you put it:

            “what would FDR had done to rein them in? After all, they were his buddies. They were his supporters.”

            No one disputes that TR played an important role in the battle against the monopolies—-using the tool of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act passed long before he was president. But to suggest that he somehow is “an abnormality in U.S. politics. He ran totally against the grain” in light of the long history before and after him is absurd.

            Even more ridiculous is a suggestion that FDR would have done nothing because he was “buddies” with the Bigs when the historical record clearly demonstrates that he did FAR MORE with far greater consequences than TR or any other president in US History to advance the well-being of the common man or the “commonbreds” as you call them.

            I responded as I did because there is always a danger that such a stupid idea might taken as factual by others….

          • John Johnson

            But what I stated was factual. You can downplay the Square Deal all you want to. Teddy reined in the Big’s more than anyone; FDR developed work for the masses. Furthermore Teddy served only one term. FDR served two…because FDR still had friends in high places. Teddy had none after pushing through his SD.

          • WUSRPH

            Teddy served one-and-a-half terms and handpicked his successor…..hardly a man whose power was used up. He was still popular enough in 1912 to run as a third party candidate and run SECOND ahead of Taft, the GOP incumbent.

            In addition, FDR served 3 terms and part of a fourth. NOT TWO as you said…..FDR’s friends were the voters not those in “high places”……

            You need to pay more attention to history rather than to myths.

          • WUSRPH

            You also do not seem to know that the battle against the “railroad, banking and utility barons” had begun BEFORE TR. Ever heard of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890? And it was going on in the State’s too earlier with such things as the creation of the Texas Railroad Commission in 1891. TR played an important role in the fight…but he was neither its founder or the only force. The battle had began years before he took office and it continued for years afterwards with such laws as the Clayton Antitrust Act and the Federal Trade Commission Act of 1914 and into the New Deal.

          • John Johnson

            There you go with more of your “yeah, but’s”. You simply don’t always get it right, but you can’t admit it. Does anyone like being around you?

    • Shelly H.

      LOCKER ROOM DEMEANOR? Since when is bragging grabbing a woman’s p***y WITHOUT her consent and that you can get away with it because you’re famous locker room talk? Oh right it’s not, it’s a confession of committing sexual assault. THERE IS NO DEFENSE FOR HIS COMMENTS AND ACTIONS. Bringing up anyone else’s sins is not a defense it’s a piss poor arguing tactic because there is no rational defense. You can continue to delude yourself that he is somehow better than Hillary but the truth is and you know it is that he is far far worse and his actions can be called truly evil.

      Trump is done, he’s beyond well done he’s a crispy critter that needs to be tossed in the trash.

      • John Johnson

        You ever been in a lockeroom?

        Save your energy. We vote in a few weeks. You aren’t changing anyone’s mind. Your not going to.

        • Shelly H.

          What difference would it make? FTR – Yes I have.

          I also have heard many, many men whom I respect emphatically state that no, that is not locker room talk.

          *you’re

          • John Johnson

            Wahteevr. Meny, meny men? You’ve talked with meny men on this subject. Yeah, right.

          • Shelly H.

            JJ, you are supporting a sexual predator, possibly a child rapist. So I can do nothing but believe that you condone such behavior. That you believe that women deserve to be treated in the way that Trump boasts of. Your contempt of the opinions of myself and other women here – Erica, Pearl, Sacagawea, Wessexmom, etc. Your continued mansplaining to us of politics show us just how awful you are. I am no longer giving you a pass or benefit of doubt. You have proven time and again just how you think and feel about women.

            You have become a sad pathetic imitation of a man.

          • John Johnson

            You are weird, Shelly. Pathetically so. There is no need for the two of us ever communicate again. You poor, poor thing. I feel sorry for you.

          • WUSRPH

            I think it is more likely that more of us will feel sorry for a person who claims to be A MAN who thinks what Trump was saying he had done was proper behavior by anyone, anywhere. Of course, he now says it was all just talk and denies he did any of the things he bragged about doing on the tape…..If he is telling the truth now, what does that make him? An “exaggerator”?

          • John Johnson

            Hell, Professor, women talk that way this day and time. Rappers put words like his to music and they win awards. Women buy 50 million copies of books so they read it and fantasize about men having their way with them.

          • WUSRPH

            How people talk, dream of fantasize is not the question. The question is whether a direct physical “move” on another without that person’s agreement is acceptable behavior.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Trump probably has ED like many men his age. His dirty talk is a coping mechanism.

          • Shelly H.

            You have a problem understanding the difference between consent and non-consent, artistic interpretation of reality and reality, fiction vs nonfiction, fantasy vs reality.

            Fifty shades of crap, was read just as much for the train wreck it was as it was read by women who believed it was a good story. Regardless, it was fiction, a fantasy, escapism. Just like books written by any author. So should we analyze men for their reading choices? Make assumptions about their character?

            Art is the interpretation of reality by the artist – IOW the artist is portraying their reality in their chosen medium, your example was rappers, so their use of that type of talk is not always promotion of that nor is it condoning that, it is merely their expression of what they are seeing day to day. Sometimes it is a protest of what they are seeing, sometimes it is just left up to the listener to determine what the purpose is.

          • BCinBCS

            Way to go Shel !

          • BCinBCS
          • John Johnson

            Ever said anything in private you would not want the world to hear? I have; in all the lockerooms and in frat houses and dorms I’ve been in you hear crude talk. Same in military barracks. You obviously live in a cocoon. Think JFK ever bragged to his buds and brothers about conquests and being a little “forceful”? How about Ted getting drunk, killing a young girl and lying about what happened? He got nary a hand slap. You people are biased to the max. Why do words vs killing someone while a Senator and driving drunk draw more ire and condemnation? It’s goofy.

          • BCinBCS

            I, too, “must be biased to the max” because I haven’t heard that sort of vulgar, entitled language in a locker room or elsewhere since I was in junior high school.

          • BCinBCS
          • Shelly H.

            Just like Hilary did to a friend about those other women?

            What was considered acceptable in the 60’s, 70’s, and maybe the 80’s is not considered acceptable today in 2016. There is a world of difference between comments along the line of “She’s hot, man I’d like to tap that” and “I can get away with grabbing her p***y, because I’m famous and powerful.” If you seriously do not understand the difference between the two then there is no hope for you. Perhaps you should ask your wife or daughters if you have them to explain it to you or ask her if she’s ever been the target of such remarks.

          • John Johnson

            Oh, his remarks were terrible, but Bill did it, but none of his conversations were taped; Teddy got drunk and killed a young girl while married. Judge these in order of magnitude. This should be interesting.

          • Shelly H.

            Neither are running for the office of President. Trying to justify Trump’s bad behavior by trying to point to behavior equally bad or worse is a bad argument. I used to expect better from you. I bet you wouldn’t accept that argument from your children yet you expect others to accept it for this?

          • John Johnson

            Hahaha. No, I wouldn’t. Just pointing out the double standard that you guys seem to live by.

          • John Johnson

            Who has stated Trump’s comments were OK behavior? You like to stretch and exaggerate as much as he does, it would seem.

          • WUSRPH

            With your it’s “locker room demeanor” and “look at what others do” comments, see above, you’ve come as close to saying that as anyone.

          • Shelly H.

            Not half as sorry as I feel for you.

          • SpiritofPearl

            JJ is a frightened old man whose world is collapsing – no where to run, no where to hide.

  • John Bernard Books

    Once again dems and their lackeys have made a mockery of our elections, cross over voting, lies, distortion, cheating, illegals voting voter fraud et al. Democrats want us down on their level….pizz on them.
    Time to rid our country of them and their sleaze.

    • BCinBCS

      Do they let someone as crazy as you have a drivers license?

    • Unwound

      i dont think you were actually in the military. theres no way a person like you made it through four years without being shot by their own unit.

      • BCinBCS

        Maybe he spent four years doing KP duty or four years policing cigarette butts.

        • John Bernard Books

          sleaze…isn’t normal excepting for dems of course.

        • WUSRPH

          The draft was for two years.

          • John Bernard Books

            Where did you serve Bozo…..

          • BCinBCS

            Yes, you’re right, I was using the volunteer rules that applied to me rather than the draft rules that applied to the Troll.

          • SpiritofPearl

            The Guard was six months.

        • John Bernard Books

          Don’t hate our vets…..many died so you can be stupid.

          • BCinBCS

            I’m not hating our vets. I do hate the facts that you are so blind that you cannot see that.

      • John Bernard Books

        you still fantasizing about me in a uniform?

        • BCinBCS

          The brave men of the 101st Chairborne have uniforms?

        • Unwound

          i doubt they could find one to fit you at this point

  • John Bernard Books

    Everything the Clintons touch they corrupt…
    “Veteran FBI agents say FBI Director James Comey has permanently damaged the bureau’s reputation for uncompromising investigations with his “cowardly” whitewash of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s mishandling of classified information using an unauthorized private email server.

    Feeling the heat from congressional critics, Comey last week argued that the case was investigated by career FBI agents, “So if I blew it, they blew it, too.””
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/08/fbi-agents-reportedly-close-revolt-comeys-friendly-treatment-clinton/

    What is it gonna take to rid our country of these sleazebags?

    • BCinBCS

      What’s it going to take to get you off of those ultra-right wing fantasy sites such as Hotair and Breitbart?

      • John Bernard Books

        whats it gonna take for you to get a life pearl

  • Unwound

    trump wants complete power. ask him about checks and balances. youve got a 50/50 shot that he knows what they are

    • John Johnson

      As opposed to a woman who knows how the law is supposed to work and thumbs her nose at them.

      • BCinBCS

        Both candidates have their flaws but anyone who thinks that Hillary Clinton’s flaws are in the some ballpark much less the same league as Donald Trumps id truly delusional. Will that fact change your mind? Nope. But that merely indicates the irrationality of your brain chemistry and thought process.

        • WUSRPH

          The power of Hate is that it is makes one totally oblivious to reality.

      • John Bernard Books

        The only way dems win is when they drag you down to their level…..that’s why they’re known as liberals anything goes. What is so laughable is they act offended.surprised by something Trump said. Dems pride themselves in breaking laws man;s and God’s. There may not be a law the Clintons haven’t broken.

      • Unwound

        in case you havent noticed, im no fan of clintons, though for reasons mostly different than yours

        • John Johnson

          Yeah, well I’m not a big fan of anyone in office today or either of the two horrible choices for Prez. How did we get here?

          • Unwound

            centrist dems with money attempting to triangulate for votes and morons who are willing to vote for the loudest jerkoff on the stage

          • John Johnson

            There was truly no one on the Repub stage that I thought was not just more of the same. Trump, I thought, would back off shut up and wise up. He hasn’t.

          • Unwound

            they were all universally terrible

  • donuthin2

    Looks like Trump blew his whole leg off this time instead of just shooting himself in the foot. How stupid can you be to know all that stuff is out there and not be prepared for it. Not only stupid, but arrogant and the two usually go together.

    • WUSRPH

      But, as you have seen with JJ, it is having little effect on his core supporters. They hate Clinton so much that Trump’s comment so much that they are proving that Trump’s comment about him being able to shot someone on 5th Avenue and it would not affect his vote appears to be true.

      • John Bernard Books

        Whats the alternative…..something worse.

  • John Bernard Books

    can the dems keep it in the gutter for 30 more days…..they are absolutely terrified of the issues.
    We are now $19,000,000,000,000.00 in debt. Obama’s and Hillary’s policies have more debt than all of the rest of the presidents combined.
    Obamacare is a total disaster according to Bill Clinton…..yes he said those words dems.
    “to quote Bill Clinton on the ACA and its irrational approach: “It’s not like life insurance, it’s not like casualty, it’s not like predicting floods – it doesn’t work.”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/06/obamacare-meltdown-begun/

    Don’t stoop to their level, stand strong and the Clintons can go quietly in the dark where their sleaze belongs….

  • WUSRPH

    Here’s a theory for you……former US Rep. Michele Bachmann, among others, is spreading a tale that the Clinton campaign is behind the release of the “locker room” tapes (and probably the Howard Stern ones too). She says they were leaked to distract attention away from the Trump’s sure-to-be great performance in tonight’s debate. (If she thought of it she would probably add to also district attention from he Wikileaks leak of the old Clinton speeches).

    Actually, if the Clinton folks had the stuff—-and the Howard Stern stuff was in the public record—releasing them at this time for either reason seems to be a good political move to me. What was not a good political move was the Trump campaign’s apparently lack of preparedness to deal with the attack. IF they knew the stuff existed—and a good campaign would have—they should have played the “I was a different man then”…..”he’s been reborn” line they tried some months ago—but dropped—on a lot more occasions. After all, everyone loves a reformed sinner.

    Unless he has no short-term or long-term memory either, Trump had to know that he had said those things on Stern’s show and, unless he really believes that he can do anything and not have to pay for it, should have seen that it could hurt him. I guess that’s just another sign of his megalomania.

    • John Johnson

      Who cares? We vote shortly. In fact, I’m about to this week.

      • WUSRPH

        Early voting does not start for two weeks…(unless it is a mail-in ballot)….but we recognize your eagerness to get it all over with.

    • BCinBCS

      Michele Bachmann.
      Consider the source.

      • Wilson James

        Agreed. Bachman would be a trumpite, now wouldn’t she?

        • BCinBCS

          I’ve thought about it and I can’t answer that. She’s in a special category of crazy.

  • John Bernard Books

    Why Trump even in the race?
    “The @HillaryClinton team wrote about their goal of “elevating” Trump 2 months before he declared his candidacy. https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails//fileid/1120/251 …”

    The Clintons….just like when they had the weasel Perot beat Bush. The Clintons can win on their own merit so they use every dirty trick they can to fool democrats into helping them.

  • WUSRPH

    Trump (and his defenders) say all this fuss is just to distract people for the “real issues”…..I wonder how many times he will talk about the Clinton’s personal lives tonight….as he talks about the “real issues”…..

    • John Bernard Books

      I hope alot, the uninformed need to know how despicable the Clintons are.
      So tell me what did you do when Bob Bullock slapped Atty Gen Morales and called him a dirty little Mexican?
      “Lieutenant Governor Bullock expressed his annoyance at Morales by whacking him on the cheek.”
      http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/state-politics-%E2%80%A2-dan-morales/

      I suspect Bullock treated women like dirt and said much worse than Trump….but that was ok because he was a dem. Didn’t you work for him?

  • John Bernard Books

    I’m always amused by dems. Acting all upset about a few dirty words when Hillary is the most foul mouthed, lying, misogynist that has ever lived….

  • WUSRPH

    My immediate reaction to the debate:

    * Trump did better than the first debate. He stayed on the attack against Clinton from the very beginning. He may even be said to have “won” by a small margin.

    * He answered few of the direct questions, bridging everything back to an act on Clinton. The problem being in most cases that—beyond some grand statements like “We will have” he offers no details on how we will get there or on any issue.

    * While he obviously pleased his core and the JJs, no one who was not for him before the debate who saw it changed that position.

    * He often acted like a petulant little boy (“3 to 1”, “you let her talk”) and broke into her answers…..which is just the kind of behavior he has engaged in from the very first day of his campaign.

    * He is without doubt totally unable to admit any fault or guilt. “It was locker room talk”….was as close as he came as if talking about “grabbing her by the …..” is acceptable if it is said in private.

    * By pleasing his core, he has probably stopped the flow of people “unendorsing” him…..until something new comes out.

    All in all, it all changed nothing.

    • WUSRPH

      Since he denied that he had done any of the things he bragged about doing on the tape, I guess that makes him one of those braggarts about all the women he has …….who is still a virgin.

      • Jed

        I saw a “Clinton/Satan 2016” bumper sticker this weekend.

        It didn’t occur to me at the time, but considering the choices I guess that was actually a show of support?

        • BCinBCS

          🙂

    • BCinBCS

      I score the second debate a draw.

      • SpiritofPearl

        Your Y chromosomes have distorted reality. A CNN poll says Clinton won by 57%. Polls in coming days will show he failed miserably with women who are 53% of the electorate

        • BCinBCS

          I don’t doubt that Pearl but I ruled it a tie because Trump successfully pivoted every bad subject about him into his fairy dust solution to all of America’s and the world’s problems and most people don’t realize that fairy dust doesn’t work. Saying “Vote for me and I’ll make everything great again” and actually accomplishing it are two separate and impossible things.

        • Wilson James

          WSJ poll now has Hillary up 11% overall.

    • Wilson James

      I think he hurt himself. Independents, educated people and women are appalled. Doubling down on being an idiot is not the way to stop the bleeding.

  • WUSRPH

    Interesting development that may or may not mean anything:

    Mike Pence has now cancelled out of two Trump campaign appearances since the “locker room talk” tape was released—-on in Wisconsin on Saturday were he was to sub for the disinvited Trump with Paul Ryan and a NJ fund raiser set for tomorrow (Monday). Pence is known to take his religion and morals very, very seriously……He also has said that the Trump comments are unacceptable.
    Is there any connection? It will be interesting to see.

    Trump lost the support of more than 40 prominent GOPers since Friday…It would really be a shock if his VP choice joins the group.

  • John Bernard Books

    Jeeeeeeez slllllleeeeeeze………tired of dems yet?
    “Go f**k yourself,” Jesse Lehrich wrote on Twitter during the contentious debate.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/clinton-spokesman-to-trump-go-f**k-yourself/#ixzz4MgIyscQO

    Lock her up!!!!!!!!

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems feel comfortable in the gutter…..
    “I think the momentum is going to switch, like that,’ Giuliani told DailyMail.com, snapping his fingers. ‘It was one of the biggest victories in a presidential debate, ever.'”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830041/Second-debate-Hillary-Clinton-Donald-Trump-gets-underway.html#ixzz4MgJpP02B

    Trump held the dem moderators accountable……he beat all 3.

  • John Bernard Books

    Grandma lost big last night……
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFGiZT-MnI4

    • BCinBCS

      I’ll reply to Trump’s statement that he would jail Hillary Clinton if he was elected President by quoting a comment that I read over at LG&M:

      “…if elected [Trump] will try to take dictatorial actions because he thinks the President has dictatorial powers.”

      • SpiritofPearl

        Banana republic antics.

  • donuthin2

    I don’t think Trump won by any measure. He looked awful, was sniffling again, stalking around the stage and looked like a trapped animal. Having the women on stage actually distracted rather than enhanced any message he had. His reference to the Bill Clinton escapades kinda fell flat and were not nearly as graphic as Anderson’s question about him grabbing the “genitals” of women. Especially bad was his point of investigating and jailing Clinton if he were elected. Clinton on the other hand, chose to allow him to ramble incoherently without too much challenge, answered the questions, and looked more presidential. Will be interesting to see what the pundits say today after having some time to think about it.

    • WUSRPH

      The problem is that few people pay attention to any pundits
      anymore and when they do it is the one they already agree with. But the few
      I’ve seen since last night indicate that they (and the overnight polls) say
      Hillary “won”, as if that meant anything. Others are saying that
      Trump did not hurt himself any more, but that he needed to HELP himself and he
      did not do that.

      After all the times he said “liar” last night and
      even called her the evil one (censor does not like us to us his popular name),
      I wonder how much farther he will go during the coming days and the next
      debate. One would think there has to be a limit….but with him there appears
      to be none. You cold see Trump struggling with himself when he was asked to say
      something good about Hillary……Took him several seconds to come up with one
      of her campaign slogans.

      His “she’s had 30 years and done nothing” line may
      have had some impact with those who do not understand checks and balances and
      think that a president should be able to ram thru whatever he/she wants. But
      that is apparently how Trump sees the world too…..

  • John Bernard Books
  • John Bernard Books

    She needed to hear she isn’t above the law……the debate turned and it was all down hill for Hill after Trump put it out there.
    http://www.yesimright.com/this-was-the-exact-moment-when-hillary-realized-donald-trump-won-the-debate/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbh2qXBMjuY

  • SpiritofPearl

    The GOP is in meltdown.

    • Wilson James

      It is reaping what it has sown for the last 8 years. Do nothings tend to get more than they bargain for in the end.

  • WUSRPH
  • John Bernard Books

    What have we learned from Podesta’s emails?
    “Beyond this Hillary should stop attacking Bernie, especially when she says things that are untrue, which candidly she often does. I am one of the people with credibility to suggest Bernie people support her in November, and she and Benenson and others have no idea of the damage she does to herself with these attacks, which she does not gain by making. Instead the smart move would be to look for issues where she can dovetail with Bernie. One I am definitely going to suggest would be to take his proposal for a free public college education paid for by a transaction tax on Wall Street speculation and add one new dimension….that to receive this benefit young people should devote one year to some form of community or public service…. There is no reason Hillary cannot not support this…. Right now I am petrified that Hillary is almost totally dependent on Republicans nominating Trump….she has huge endemic political weaknesses that she would be wise to rectify…..even a clown like Ted Cruz would be an even money bet to beat and this scares the hell of out me…..
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3990#efmAE8AKdARdAV3

    We now know the Clinton campaign pushed Trump as the repub nominee…
    In this email Podesta admits Hillary lies and and she lies often…
    and he admits Cruz would have beat her…..

    Grandma is in trouble…..

    • BCinBCS

      “We now know the Clinton campaign pushed Trump as the repub nominee…”

      And you and the rest of the GOP voted for him. There were sixteen – sixteen – other GOP candidates from which to choose.

      Either you and the GOP wanted Trump or you and the GOP fell (and are still falling) into the biggest Dem trap ever set.

      • WUSRPH

        He’s got to have someone to blame…..He certainly won’t accept any for himself…..He’s like Trump in that….It is always somebody else’s conspiracy. It makes life so much easier that way.

      • John Bernard Books

        Actually if you had a pea sized brain you would know dems crossed over and picked Trump over Cruz.

        • BCinBCS

          I know that when the Democrats were assigning whether we were supposed to vote for Hillary or Trump, they had me vote for Hillary so my conscience is clear.

          You keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

  • WUSRPH

    Suppose you saw were Trump has been saying that the Obama Administration has let the gates open on the border so that massive numbers of illegal aliens can flood into the country in time to vote. Next he will be saying that the government is busing them to polling places around the country especially to the swing states. And, people like the Troll will believe it…

  • WUSRPH

    https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/USNuclearModernization

     Among The Donald’s numerous “exaggerations” (as JJ calls it when Trump does not tell the full truth) was his attack on the status of the U.S. nuclear forces. This was strange coming from a man who a couple of months ago did not even know what the “Nuclear Triad” was…..but it is part of his effort to try to make people think the U.S. is weak. As usual, with Trump, he “exaggerated” the facts. The truth is that the US is now engaged in a massive multi-hundred billion dollar upgrade program of our nuclear deterrent. You can get some idea of how far off from the truth Trump is from this study by the Arms Control Association, a group that is unhappy with the program. Of course, the facts will mean nothing to Trump or those who want to believe him.

    • John Johnson

      There can, however, be no argument that our military is not up to speed. We are cannibalizing parts off aircraft to keep a few flying. Pilots sit in the ready rooms twiddling their thumbs while ground crews work around the clock to make craft airworthy. The pilots are quitting the service along with the overworked maintenance crews. Stupid. Such waste. It’s everywhere.

      • WUSRPH

        Talk to your GOP congressman who voted for the sequestration of defense funds…..which the Obama Administration opposes. However, you might also want to remember that we now spend more on defense each year then the next six largest spenders combined (including Russia and China). We are, have been for years, and remain the strongest nation in the history of the world. Ronald Reagan doubled the national debt trying to spend the Soviet Union into bankruptcy. He succeeded but at what cost. Is that your goal? We are spending $485 BILLION on nuclear modernization alone….plus several billions on the F-35 variations…..plus plan new Trident nuclear submarines….and $3 billion each Zumwalt destroyers…and a new manned bomber (B3) to replace the B-52s (which are the planes being cannibalized since we have not built a new one since the 1960s)…..IS there NO LIMIT?

        • John Johnson

          It is the overall waste that I abhor. Not just military spending waste. Billions disappear without a clue. No one answers for it.

          • WUSRPH

            Fine, but you were complaining about a weak defense where the facts show you are wrong.
            So what do you want us to do for defense which you claim is so weak. And don’t give me that crap about less ships than since WWII and a smaller ground force in years stuff.
            We needed hundreds of bombers to bomb Japan and Germany because the bomb load was low and the accuracy was limited. That changed a long time ago. One B2 can do more damage than hundreds of B-17s.
            The facts are that—TODAY we have the largest air forces, the largest navy including 10 aircraft carriers when no one else (France and China) have more than one, thousands of nuclear war heads and billions of spending more than anyone else. Isn’t that enough?
            The only area in which we “trail” in in the number of ground troopers but, if there is one thing that the fiasco in Iraq proved, is that our mechanized, modernized, computerized forces are more than a match for any other conventional armed force. (Rumsfeld was right that les than 250,000 troops could take out an Iraqi force of more than double that size. Where he was wrong was in not sending in enough troops to hold what that maneuver force won.)
            The troops we have are enough to fight one and a major and one minor conflicts at a single time.. Show me where we need more. What would you do with them? Re-occupy Iraq? Send ground troops into Syria and Libya? I’m as big of a supporter of a strong armed forces as you can name, but there s a limit…….

          • John Johnson

            You can say we have the biggest and best all day long. I won’t disagree…but if we are overworking ground crews on tanks and planes while pilots we spend millions to train sit in their butts, something is wrong. We can’t afford new personnel carriers, but leave billions of dollars worth of high tech ones, along with other state of the art armored IED vehicles on the ground for the enemy to commandeer. Surely, even a hard headed pedant such as yourself can see the craziness of this. This said, I am expecting some goofy retort.

          • WUSRPH

            The cost of bringing home the limited number of vehicles and equipment in Afghanistan when is being left there, which is what you appear to be referring, would be more than the cost of new equipment. Plus, unless we plan another Iraq/Afghan episode, we have more than meet our requirements at home….Sounds weird, but it is true.

          • John Johnson

            You must have missed the 60 Minutes piece.

          • WUSRPH

            Yes, I did…….but that does not change the basic facts…..which you prefer to ignore. You want to think we are weak….it fits your delusion of the US being a dying, weak, sick Gulliver corrupted by BIGS and tied down by a web spun by aliens and Chinese.

          • WUSRPH

            If anyone is interested in a comparison of military strengths that does not rely on The Donald’s imagination, this link will take you to a simplified ranking. It will provide the basic information for a informed judgment.

            http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

            There are others who make more sophisticated analyese….but this one is simple enough for even Trump to understand. Too bad he does not do his homework before shooting off his mouth…..but why should defense policy be any different than the way he treats all issues.

          • BCinBCS

            China’s military is roughly equivalent to Russia’s?

            Either China is in much better shape than I thought or Russia is in worse.
            And Israel is roughly equivalent to Vietnam while South Korea is worse than Italy?
            Really?

          • WUSRPH

            Russia’s military—particularly its conventional forces—virtually fell apart with the collapse of the Soviet Union and their horrible economic problems….You should have seen the pictures of war ships rotting at their piers, etc. But Putin has begun a buildup again.

          • WUSRPH

            Another factor that partially skews the ratings is that they DO NOT take into account a country’s nuclear capability. That is deliberate because, except for an Israel with its back up against the final wall and a JJ or a Donald Trump, their use is considered totally unlikely. This makes the strength rating more for conventional strength…..This is why, for example, Israel ranks lower than you would expect It would rank much higher if nuclear capability were included. Russia has nuclear capability. China much less, but China has conventional strength.

            Another factor that affects people like South Korea is their geographical position in relation to a potential enemy. Italy, for example, is far away from a potential attacker (except by air) while South Korea is immediately next to its likely opponent. You loose points if your opponent can hit your Capitol within minutes. The same goes for Israel which would rank even lower if its potential opponents were any stronger than they are.

            Similarly, China and the Russia get extra credit for their sheer land mass that makes it virtually impossible to conquer them. (Ask Japan about how difficult that was.) The US also gets some benefit from its location and size.

          • BCinBCS

            Interesting analysis.
            Thanks.

          • Shelly H.

            You should go watch the 60 minutes piece, it was a 2 parter I only caught the second part I need to see the first one, on the new cold war – it was actually well done. And the AF General did not say that the B-52 fleet was outdated or needed to be replaced. There was also a very good interview with King Abdullah of Jordan. Fascinating insights to his part of the world.

          • John Johnson

            Oh, Shelly…this was a piece on total neglect and stupidity. It was months ago. The B-52 is one of the best investments the military ever made.

          • WUSRPH

            Yes, it was….but you cannot keep rebuilding (as we have been doing) an aircraft whose pilots’ parents were not born at the time it was built. There comes a point where it is time for a replacement, especially when the aircraft involved is totally defenseless in any environment in which we have less than totally air superiority and the ability to suppress ground-based AA.

            Ask the families of the 11 B-52 crews lost to ground to air defenses over North Vietnam in Nixon’s last 10 days of attacks whether they want to see anyone fly into a hostile air space in a B-52. And that was in 1972.

            The 52 is only still useful because of the billions we have spent on ways to suppress opposition. Absent that, the remaining few we have on line l would have long ago been retired to the bone yard in the desert where most of them now reside.

          • John Johnson

            Do you not understand how you always state the obvious in response to another’s post because the other took for granted that all others reading here “get it”? You are a pedant. Look it up. You are the absolute epitome.

          • Shelly H.

            Then you should have been specific then shouldn’t you? Funny that you say the B-52 is such a great investment when just a couple of replies up you said they were falling apart and grounded…

            Taking a page from Trumpkin’s playbook?

          • John Johnson

            You are some kind of dense. Stick to posts that you are up to speed on. You are goofy. The 60 Minutes piece and my comments weren’t about B-52’s.

          • John Johnson

            You pompous twit. We are going broke. If our interest rates were to go up a half point, the house of cards is going to start losing walls. We are wasting hundreds of billions because of ineptness, gross neglect and an ingrained way of doing things. I am tired of it. It is as simple as that. Hillary is more of the same. It’s the way the elitests like it. They are making money. You can make excuses all you want to. You can try and justify it. It total bullshit.

          • WUSRPH

            We are going broke, you say….but you and Trump want to spend untold billions more on defense…You make wild accusations of “hundreds of billions” being wasted by “ineptness, gross neglect and ingrained way of doing things” but neither you or Trump offer any concrete examples that stand up to scrutiny or are willing to say what you are going to cut. Let’s hear some specifics. We are tired of your grand declarations backed up by nothing but hot air.

          • John Johnson

            Whose campaigns give us facts? Hillary’s. Did you hear her bs answer about fixing Ocare? How about her promises to Wall Street and hokey explanation about the Lincoln movie. Those were really in depth and enlightening. She has given us nothing and few campaign promises ever get implemented as stated. It takes everyone’s negotiating a plan after the election to get a plan in place. Quit obfuscating.

          • WUSRPH

            The only one “obfuscating” around here is you. Tell us what you or Trump will do to get spending and the deficit under control when by the best estimates he will add $10 TRILLION to the deficit over the next 10 years.
            Quit ducking it with “we will do it after the election” or he has a secret plan…..Stand up and tell us what you will cut? Tell us whether you will deny millions health care?
            Tell us whether you will spend billions on defense? Quit hiding.

          • John Johnson

            My main focus as stated umpteen times is trade and tax reform. As far as I am concerned, it all starts there. Then a total department by department evaluation with some getting axed. The same old, same old is not working and hasn’t for decades. You ask me to give you specifics. I’m not qualified. Neither are you. I am a total skeptic; you are an old political dinosaur who believes in more of the same because you promoted it here in Texas for so long. It’s always been done this way is your fallback reasoning.

          • WUSRPH

            As the author—so declared by both Bob Bullock and John Sharp–of the Texas Performance Review which was created to do just that kind of department by department review, I find your suggestion that I “believe in more of the same” just a little stupid.

          • John Johnson

            Hahaha. That’s your defense? There have been all sorts of reviews. What have they accomplished? Reviews without recommended change is what? The stinking use of dedicated accounts still sticks in my craw? How about our PUC that is really the Utility’s Utility Commission? Or Insurance Company’s State Commissioner? Or, better yet, the Ethics Commission and their inability to get anything meaningful in place. We are a stupid lot. You were one who took advantage of the public depending on you to take care of us. You did as you were told.

          • WUSRPH

            All I know is that the first TPR in 1991 was credited as saving the taxpayers ONE BILLION DOLLARS and there were significant savings year-after-year thereafter until the program was killed by Rick Perry and Tom Craddick in retaliation for Comptroller Carol of the many names telling the truth about their so-called tax plan.

          • John Johnson

            Well then, you get a reprieve…but the fact remains that politics in Texas is not not approached with commonbreds in mind. It is all about protecting the Big’s and the flow of their money into campaign accounts to insure re-election. It’s hard for a challenger to whip encumbancy. Our system is corrupt, but since there are no laws outlawing stinky pay-for-play, we get the “I’ve done nothing wrong” retort. Since the ones getting the money aren’t ever going to pass laws making it illegal, we will get more of the same.

          • WUSRPH

            I assume “you get a reprieve” is some sort of a Donald Trump Apology for making wild, untruth claims about me.

            As to the mess in Austin. What have you done about it?

            Have you gone to your new enamored one, Rep. Krause, and told him you expect him to vote for:

            * detailed lobbying reports that show who money was spent on and how much.

            * strict reporting of ALL campaign spending by ALL groups so that MQS and friends cannot hide what they are doing or who is financing them.

            * a detailed personal financing disclosure (not by broad categories) for legislators including a ban on taking “gifts”, etc. in light of the McDonnell case ruling.

            And other necessary reforms.

            And have you told your enamored one that you will personally campaign against him and contribute large amounts to any opponent if he fails to support such reforms and, at the least, is not a co-sponsor or co-author of the necessary bills. And then back up your promise if he doesn’t.

            I doubt it….It is so much easier to condemnn and complain and attack people on false grounds.

          • BCinBCS

            JJ, I sympathize with what you want but I cannot abide who you think will do it.

            I would add to what W said about “personally campaign[ing] against him and contribut[ing] large amounts to any opponent if he fails to support such reforms…” that you can band with other like-minded people who will join you in working toward or contributing money toward these reforms. As I said in a previous BB post, I would be willing to help in such an endeavor.

          • John Johnson

            You don’t know squat about what I do politically. I guess I should have copied you in on the letter to Senators Hancock and Watson yesterday regarding the predatory practices of Big Insurance…or the $50M in electricity overcharges that our PUC did not make ERCOT repay, or Konni Burton’s pounding on civic/corporate partnerships. I stay more active than most commonbreds I know.

          • WUSRPH

            I assumed from all your comments that you do things like that…….BUT have you faced down your new enamored one, Krause, about his views on ethics? Have you made it clear that you expect action? Sending a letter to Watson, who represents a district far from you and is from a totally different party than you, has a lot less impact that looking your local man in the face and telling him what you expect.

            P.S. From experience I can tell you that your letter to Watson want (figuratively, at least) into the “out-of-district” round container as far as any impact it will have.

          • BCinBCS

            W: “Tell us what you or Trump will do to get spending and the deficit under control…

            What the hell’s wrong with you W? Any conservative can answer that question…fairy dust. C’mon man, get with the program.

          • BCinBCS

            JJ, we have so much surplus equipment that the military is giving it to our police departments and the remainder that cannot be given away is being scrapped.

          • BCinBCS

            JJ wrote: “…but if we are overworking ground crews on tanks and planes…”

            Maybe it’s time to bring back the draft.

  • WUSRPH

    It appears that most of the pundits and overnight polls appear to be saying two things about last night’s debate:

    *Hilllary won and

    * Trump, as the National Review put it, “lived to lose again another day” and did better than he did during the first debate.

    I particularly liked the reactions by the two NRs—the National Review and the New Republic–from the opposite ends of the political spectrum. The New Republic (left) said he showed that he is more than willing to play Samson in the GOP”s Temple and bring the party down with him. The National Review, as noted above, basically said that he did not hurt himself as much as the first time and even showed some improvement. But to no avail.

    But the problem is that few people pay attention to anything these informed observers say unless they already agree with them. This means that no one who was for Trump or Hillary before changed their minds….With all the times he called her a liar as well as the evil one (the censor does not like us to use the common “d word” name) last night one wonders how far he will go during the next few days and in the next debate. You would think there is a limit to how abusive he can be, but with Trump there appears to be none.

    His attack on her “30 years and accomplished nothing” line probably sold to the folks who, like Trump, apparently do not understand such simple things as checks and balances with two chambers and a president with a veto and who think that A LEADER can accomplish whatever he/she wants. But I doubt anyone who stayed awake in their high school civics class was overly impressed.

    • BCinBCS

      Jonathan Chait over at the New York Magazine agrees with you W. Here is the bulk of what he had to say: (emphasis is mine)

      Other than his unique fantasy that he opposed the Iraq war, Trump used the debate to vividly depict the fantasy world which most Republicans inhabit. He claimed Clinton deleted her emails illegally and promised that, if he were elected, he would use the powers of his presidency to have her jailed, despite the conclusion by a Republican FBI director that doing so would not be a proper application of the law. He repeatedly attacked the debate moderators for imagined sins, including allegedly failing to bring up the email issue, which in fact they had. He spouted the usual gibberish about Obamacare driving costs out of control — in fact, health-care inflation has fallen to historic lows — combined with promises to repeal it and replace it with the standard gibberish.

      Asked a question about the vulnerabilities of Muslim-Americans, Trump demonstrated the problem he was being asked to alleviate, blaming them for allegedly refusing to turn in radicals. (“In San Bernardino, many people saw the bombs all over the apartment.”) This is not true. He likewise repeated the oft-stated Republican belief that the failure to say the exact words “radical Islamic terrorism” is the central problem with American counterterrorist policy. He dodged questions about his promises to ban all Muslim immigration, standing by his recent rhetorical gambit of relabeling the policy “extreme vetting” without rescinding it. He not only denied that Russia had orchestrated hacks on his opponent — a position at odds with the intelligence community — he astonishingly said, “Maybe there is no hacking.” He boiled his environmental stance down to the phrase “clean coal,” a propagandistic term invented by industry lobbyists. In reality, coal-based energy is extremely dirty. It is technically possible to build coal plants that capture carbon-dioxide emissions, but they are prohibitively expensive in comparison with any other clean-energy technology. And he went out of his way to lambaste President Obama.

      In all these ways, though, Trump remained well within the bounds of modern conservatism. Trump’s central premise was that none of his sins could compare with those of Bill and Hillary Clinton, who are criminals on a historic scale. To Republicans whose beliefs have been shaped through exposure to the Drudge Report, Breitbart, Fox News, or Rush Limbaugh, every word that escaped his lips was simple truth. Hillary Clinton cited the Republican officials who have called him unfit for office, trying to use the prestige of the Republican Party against him. Trump used his time to show that he is the Republican Party.

  • BCinBCS

    And the beat goes on…

    From the New York Times:

    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan dealt a hammer blow to Donald J. Trump’s presidential candidacy Monday, dashing any remaining semblance of party unity and inviting fierce backlash from his own caucus by announcing that he would no longer defend Mr. Trump’s candidacy.

    Mr. Ryan’s stance drew an immediate rebuke from Mr. Trump, who posted on Twitter that Mr. Ryan should focus on governing instead of feuding with him.

    But Mr. Ryan informed Republican lawmakers on a morning conference call that he would never again campaign alongside Mr. Trump and would dedicate himself instead to defending the party’s majority in Congress, according to five lawmakers who participated in the call and spoke on condition of anonymity.

    Effectively conceding defeat for his party in the presidential race, Mr. Ryan said his most urgent task was ensuring that Hillary Clinton did not enter the White House with Democratic control of the House and Senate, two lawmakers said.

    • WUSRPH

      Ryan knows how to read polls such as:

      Rasmussen (Clinton up 7) and Economist/YouGov (Clinton up 6) and a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey that shows Clinton up among likely voters by a 46/35 margin up from leading by 6 points in mid-September.
      Two points on the polls: First, Rasmussen is a GOP-leaning poll and these are prior last night’s debate. We will see how that affected anything (if it did) in a few days.

  • WUSRPH

    We’ve done the debate….does anyone have anything more to say about the state budget situation? What are your expectations for how the Legislature will address this tight budget? What about the possible unfairness of forcing the taxpayers of 250 school districts to send local property tax dollars to Austin, thus depriving their own children of better programs? What about funding for social services?…..child protective services is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to underfunded programs…..Should the state further encourage charter schools by giving them money for construction as well as for class room instruction? Do school districts spend too much on sports? There are a whole lot of issues that can be explored.

    • Shelly H.

      The R’s will stupidly try to cut taxes without cutting spending. We can’t afford cuts, they will waste more money suing the fed, and blame the dems for programs failing due to cuts. SSDD

    • SpiritofPearl

      Women will never be “done” with the debate.

    • Jed

      ending tackle football would free up a lot of money.

  • John Bernard Books

    In Indiana?…no way….who knew dems were such crooks?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV3b4RJA7_Y

  • John Bernard Books

    Police raided the offices of Indiana Voter Registration in downtown Indianapolis, a group run by longtime Democratic operative Craig Varoga.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtJn3BJbg4

  • John Johnson
    • WUSRPH

      Remind me, which of them is running for president this year? Then tell me how you are supporting a man who bragged about grabbing women by their …… and justified it on the grounds that as “a star” he was free to do whatever he wanted to women. Of course, he now says he was lying when he made those claims….but who are we to believe>?

      • John Johnson

        I must have missed him lying about it. He did issue an apology which was more than either of the others offered up. Wait a minute…maybe Teddy did…and he was forgiven without penalty. Clinton just called everyone a liar and then lied to Congress. Maybe you forgot.

        • WUSRPH

          He was specifically asked during the debate whether he had done the things he bragged about on the tape and he specifically said he had not. That means he was lying when he was bragging about how he had done it. Go listen to the debate tape……and quit trying to defend the indefensible.

        • Shelly H.

          An apology? It was not an apology. Apologies are sincere and show that the one making it is contrite and accepts responsibility for their actions.

  • WUSRPH

    So lying when (as Bill Clements once defended himself in the SMC scandal) because “there was no bible in the room” and lying about something so gross is okay since it was not under oath?

    • John Bernard Books

      You’re a dem so you won’t get this.
      Some believe everyone lies and they’re just doing what everyone does to justify their behavior vs someone committing a deceit act intentionally. One is a character flaw and one is an error in judgement. When your errors in judgement are away of life you have a credibility problem, ie Hillary Clinton. Bill Clement confessed he made a serious error in judgement. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a dem say that and mean it. Liars usually never admit they were wrong.
      Therein lies the difference.

  • WUSRPH

    This part of a story from the Quorum Report should give you an idea of the difficulties facing the next Legislature in drafting a budget when the growth in state revenues is low and the Senate leadership wants to cut more. It ouotlines in $6 billion in special items that the Health & Human Services Commission says are needed to provide the same level of services the state now offers…..and remember this is a request submitted by a GOP-controlled agency. (You might also note that the Leg. artificially reduced the amount it will have available to meet such demands by more than $9.1 billion last session.)

    “HHSC puts forward long list of $6 billion in exceptional items for agencies

    “Medicaid request in supplemental request is no surprise but $1.3 billion also includes funds for foster care and nursing homes

    The budget for the evolving consolidation of the Health and Human Services Commission includes a $75 billion baseline budget, plus $6 billion in requested exceptional items, including $3.8 billion in all funds to maintain the current level of client services.

    “HHSC will move from five agencies to three in the next year with the bulk of client services consolidated under HHSC. At a recent meeting of the Legislative Budget Board, Executive Commissioner Charles Smith noted his goals to tear down operational silos, create a culture that fosters innovation and maximize every dollar appropriated to the system.” (QR 10-10-16)

    • John Bernard Books

      So the question then becomes why are we doing this?
      “Live in Texas. WIC clients usually receive services in the county where they live. U.S. citizenship is not a requirement for eligibility.”
      and this beaut….!!!!!
      WIC refers clients to a variety of health and social services agencies and programs. WIC staff can help clients find these services. Some examples are:
      Medicaid
      Food Stamps
      Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF)
      Child health insurance
      Family planning
      Migrant health services
      Prenatal care
      Texas Health Steps (EPSDT)
      Medical and dental services
      Early Childhood Intervention (ECI)
      The School Lunch / Breakfast Summer Lunch Program
      Food Pantries
      Literacy Services
      Job Banks
      Housing Services
      Parenting Classes
      Drug and alcohol abuse programs
      Child care
      Child support enforcement
      http://dshs.texas.gov/wichd/gi/eligible.shtm

      Once an illegal becomes a “client” they are eligible for a whole bunch of goodies.
      Why are we giving tax dollars to illegals?
      Why are illegals voting in US elections?
      Are you dems that desperate?

  • John Bernard Books

    I was watching and I saw and heard her lie….
    “During last night’s presidential debate, which Trump won handily, he accused Hillary of being part of the disastrous “Syria Red Line” moment.
    She interrupted Trump, claiming SHE WAS NOT PART OF IT.
    Well, turns out she was.
    Obama drew his dopey “red line” in August 2012.”
    http://truthfeed.com/debate-fact-check-hillary-was-at-state-dept-when-obama-declared-red-line-with-syria/28684/

    This woman lies more than…..well Bill Clinton. You say but no one lied more than Bill! Hillary will lie when the truth is obvious and easier to tell.
    We don’t need another liar in the WH

  • John Bernard Books

    Who are you gonna believe your lying eyes or dems…..
    “Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who has been among Trump’s most forceful defenders, summed up the real estate tycoon’s performance with two words in the post-debate spin room: ‘home run.’
    ‘I think the momentum is going to switch, like that,’ Giuliani told DailyMail.com, snapping his fingers. ‘It was one of the biggest victories in a presidential debate, ever.'”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830041/Second-debate-Hillary-Clinton-Donald-Trump-gets-underway.html#ixzz4MmEY1Ezo

    We all watched and Trump clearly won……however
    “At least three media organizations have “ordered their employees to destroy Donald Trump,” Bill O’Reilly said this morning. ”
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/10/oreilly-least-3-media-orgs-have-ordered-employees-destroy-trump

    Can the liberal media resuscitate Grandma one more time……

  • nickthap

    Man, what a sewer this comments section has become. Congrats old people, you’ve got it all to yourself now.

    • John Bernard Books

      You’re wrong. Politics in America has become a sewer. We’re merely commenting about the state of it and how the Clintons have drug it down to their level.
      You are dismissed.

    • José

      Now, now, it’s no worse than a presidential debate.

      • dave in texas

        It’s like the presidential debates/politics writ large. There’s a contingent of hateful, ignorant, and unreasonable people doing everything they can to derail and obstruct any meaningful governing/discussion from getting done and a group of people who are fighting an uphill battle just to get the governing/discussion to even somewhat work the way it’s supposed to work.

    • donuthin2

      I agree that the blog has degenerated but a few still make intelligent post that are informative. Some I agree with, some I don’t but I will admit that the blocked post are probably more than all the rest. And, btw, the old people comment was uncalled for.

    • SpiritofPearl

      Be the change you want to see.

  • John Bernard Books

    The pedants look down on the “everyday Americans”…..
    “The emails, hacked from the campaign chairman John Podesta’s Gmail account and published by Wikileaks Tuesday, reveal an exchange between him and Jen Palmieri — the Clinton campaign’s director of communications — where the two struggled to decide how the phrase should be used in a speech Clinton gave in New Hampshire in April 2015

    “I know she has begun to hate everyday Americans, but I think we should use it once the first time she says I’m running for president because you and everyday Americans need a champion,” Podesta replied.

    Palmieri responded to Podesta by writing, “Truth.”

    I believe her words for everyday Americans was “basket full of deplorables.”

  • don76550

    Our schools are grossly overfunded right now and waste enormous sums of taxpayer dollars. Yet they keep whining for more dollars to waste and continue their educational malpractice. By the way Grieder, nothing prevents you from taking out your checkbook and writing a huge check to your school district, but then you would rather spend other people’s money.

  • John Bernard Books

    Two more days….
    “Stay tuned. Clinton’s answers under oath to D.C. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan are due October 13. Remember, he’s the judge who appointed a special prosecutor to investigate the Department of Justice following the Bush administration’s corrupted prosecution of former Alaska Senator Ted Stevens. And it was Judge John Sirica—combined with what was then the great Washington Post—who exposed the Nixon corruption.”
    http://observer.com/2016/10/james-comey-and-loretta-lynch-should-be-impeached-for-whitewashing-clintons-crimes/

    Key words “Clinton’s answers under oath”…..

  • John Bernard Books

    I have to agree with Mr Trump
    “It is so nice that the shackles have been taken off me and I can now fight for America the way I want to.”
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-declares-himself-freed-from-republican-party-shackles-1476200547?mod=e2fb

    I am so sick of republicans that are afraid of a fight. If you want to win against democrats you have recognize who they are. They cannot run on issues so they use sleaze and October surprises to their advantages. Yes they gather information and then hold it until they can maximize damage. Dems laugh when you mention a fair fight, they fight to win at all costs.
    The democrats want us to think there is no difference between dems and repubs so they say that. Then the less than bright vote based on style not issues. Anyone who claims to be a republican and thinks there isn’t no difference between party’s is just stupid.
    Are there republicans who are timid and weak, yes.
    Are there republican politicians who do stupid things, yes.
    Are there republicans who do not know the platform, yes.

    So why am I saying this. Dems have gave us Trump. They helped him get the republican nomination, and admitted Hillary probably couldn’t beat Cruz, per Podesta’s email. Why because they know of his record and will use it against him. Could it destroy the republican party, yes? Could he win, yes? Would a Trump win destroy the dem party, possibly. Will a Trump win destroy America, no. Trump will be better than Hillary.

    What can we expect the next 30 days? Buckets of sleaze by the dems and a hard fight by Trump. Can the dems steal the election, yes. With the help of the media and a myriad of groups who feed off tax dollars there will be a concerted effort to steal this election.

    So how did we get here…..dem’s agenda, and compliant republican elected officials without the balls to stand up for the voters they represent.

    We win by standing up to them and not letting them force Hillary down our throats, like they did Obamacare.

    • BCinBCS

      JBB, you whine and complain about how Democrats are dominating the election and how Republicans will not and cannot stand up to them. These are Republican problems. Last I heard, the Republican party was populated by adults so if they act like children they have only themselves to blame. Blaming Democrats for Republican shortcomings is childish. Grow up.

      • John Bernard Books

        Buckets and buckets of sleaze by dems….

        • BCinBCS

          Whining and diaper wetting by Republicans.

          • John Bernard Books

            Call it what you want dem…..but I’m calling out the liars and the cheats.

          • BCinBCS

            Calling out the whiners and wetters.

          • John Bernard Books

            As I said dem….calling out the liars and cheats. Lies don’t bother me…I consider the source.
            You are out of grade school right?

          • BCinBCS

            Whiners and diaper wetters don’t bother me.
            Most of them eventually grow up.

          • John Bernard Books

            Why don’t you?

  • donuthin2

    Hey Don, congratulations on such a rational post. Your kind are what makes Texas great.

    • WUSRPH

      As uninformed as his comment was, at least he addressed a budget question…….

      • donuthin2

        He spoke of a budget question, he by no means addressed a budget question.

        • WUSRPH

          The problem is that his view is shared by too many people. Part of the problem is that they just do not know any better.

          Once upon a time in a time long ago and a land far away I would have responded to Don with a long letter, with attachments, giving him the facts of
          which he is clearly unaware. ( Believe it or not, that method actually used to work (on occasion) and we’d get back a letter saying “I did not know”… There
          were even occasions when I had the same reaction to a factual and logical explanation of a problem and, as a result, changed my view on a subject.)

          …But that was long ago in a land far away when some people were still willing and able to look at questions without filtering everything thru their
          ideological view and with a willingness to learn…..Somehow we have lost that ability….somehow we have, as The Economist said in an article I tried to get you all to read a few weeks ago, we have moved into a world where truth is
          totally relatively and becomes what we want to believe. Was it always this way? ..Was I just dealing with a minority?

          • donuthin2

            I guess it is not unprecedented, but it seems to me that voters have a much greater ideology mindset and are less analytical. Maybe it is too much trouble. I thought that public school curriculum including some focus on critical thinking would by now be reflected. Either it is not really being taught effectively or the overwhelming media attention by both the right and left or negating the effect. Maybe I am just paying more attention now.

      • John Bernard Books

        WUSRPH • 4 days ago
        Two events of notice:

        Paxton WINS ONE. The federal judge has dismissed the Securities & Exchange Commission’s civil law suit against him on the grounds that Paxton had no legal responsibility to tell those who he was advising that he would make a commission if they followed his advice.

        Trump’s “groping” of women–and his justifying it because he is “a star”—has been revealed in a 2005 audio tape. His campaign says it was just “locker room talk”. Let’s see what happens the next time he claims how much he respects women.
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        John Bernard Books WUSRPH • 4 days ago
        Come on can’t you discuss the topic at all?

        4….daze….ago you were off topic…….

  • SpiritofPearl

    Please comment on Roger Williams’ citation by the congressional ethics committee. A mediocrity . . ,

    • WUSRPH

      What did they say…..conflict of interest? He’s my congressman after all…

      • SpiritofPearl

        Grifting for car dealers. And mine as well.

  • WUSRPH

    http://tinyurl.com/gnyazwn

    The prior thread dealt with NAFTA and the idea of free trade and trade agreements. As part of the discussion I asked folks to read the special report on the subject in that week’s edition of The Economist. I hope at least a few did….However, in this world of “I believe what I want to believe” (ala Trumpites) I doubt many did or that it made any difference. Today, I am recommending this new article from The Economist on the impact of Brexit. (see link above). Maybe it will make one or two people think about the impact of what the Trump is proposing…

    P.S. If you read the original piece I hope you were shocked by the fact that the US spends less than one-fifth (in percent of GNP) on adjusting to the possible impact of trade deals on workers, etc. than most other nations. I knew the situation was bad, but not that bad…..and the sad fact is the NEITHER Trump or Clinton has any proposal to do more.

  • John Bernard Books

    Geez how much sleaze is enough?
    “The Manhattan Democratic representative on the city’s Board of Elections was caught on a secret video slamming Mayor Bill de Blasio’s municipal ID program as contributing to “all kinds of fraud” — including at the polls.
    “He gave out ID cards, de Blasio. That’s in lieu of a driver’s license, but you can use it for anything,” Commissioner Alan Schulkin said in the undercover video recorded by a muckraker for conservative nonprofit Project Veritas.
    “But they didn’t vet people to see who they really are. Anybody can go in there and say, ‘I am Joe Smith, I want an ID card,’ ” he said in the bombshell tape.
    “It’s absurd. There is a lot of fraud. Not just voter fraud, all kinds of fraud . . . This is why I get more conservative as I get older.””
    http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/elections-official-caught-on-video-blasting-de-blasios-id-program/

    dems….are sleaze….

    • BCinBCS

      Repubs are whiners and diaper wetters.

      • John Bernard Books

        watches bc adjust his victim hoody….

  • John Bernard Books

    How much do you get paid to troll for Hillary>
    “A significant portion of online support for Hillary Clinton is manufactured by paid “astroturf” trolls: a large team of supporters who spend long hours responding to negative news on the internet about her. The Clinton SuperPAC Correct the Record, which is affiliated with her campaign, acknowledged in an April press release that it was spending $1 million on project “Breaking Barriers” to pay people to respond to negative information about Clinton on social media sites like Facebook, Reddit, Instagram and Twitter.”

    R r U just stupid….

    • BCinBCS

      R U A wetter and whiner?

      • John Bernard Books

        Are you out of grade school…or just another liar and cheat?

        • BCinBCS

          And now you’re whining and wetting your diaper about me.

          • John Bernard Books

            nah just calling you a dem

          • BCinBCS

            And indirectly, I’m calling you a baby.
            Grow up.
            Accept responsibility for your actions.

          • John Bernard Books

            No kidding?….wow what an intellectual!
            I case you missed it…oh never mind……hahaha

  • John Bernard Books

    Are dems scared?
    “Do we really need a third presidential debate? What’s the point? To have another round of ugliness and continued disgusting performances by Donald Trump in his desperate and vain pursuit of the highest office in the land?”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/11/calls-going-cancel-third-debate/

    After the Trump whupping last Sunday I can understand why they’re afraid….

    • BCinBCS

      You can be played by the RW media like a toy.
      Grow up.

      • John Bernard Books

        Hahaha….you sure dem?

        • BCinBCS

          Absolutely sure, child.

          • John Bernard Books

            maybe its dimwit….hahaha

          • BCinBCS

            Yea, maybe you’re right…Absolutely sure, dimwit.
            (I’ve had my fun with the babies and need to get back to work.)

          • John Bernard Books

            You’ve even been told I’m baiting you and you’re still a sucker for it…..dimwit is appropos.

          • BCinBCS

            Oh child, child, child, bless your heart. You just keep on believing that.

          • John Bernard Books

            you keep on proving it….

  • John Bernard Books

    This will make you laugh so much your sides will hurt….Cuomo wets his pants because Trumpers were jeering them?
    “CUOMO: I dealt with that at the RNC. I get the passion. But a politician has a responsibility. You shape the passion of people. I don’t mean to call supporters sheep. I respect people who want to back politicians. Trust me. But he makes them angry. Then instead of saying things to you, they want to do things to you. I’m telling you, something is going to happen. Something is going to happen.”
    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2016/10/11/cnn-anchors-hyperventilate-after-crowd-chants-cnn-sucks-trump

    Face it the media, especially CNN(the Clinton News Network) has no credibility.

  • WUSRPH

    Talk about a Tight Budget and why:

    October 5, 2016

    TEXAS COMPTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS: STATE SALES TAX REVENUE TOTALED $2.1 BILLION IN SEPTEMBER

    Texas Comptroller Glenn Hegar said today that state sales tax revenue totaled $2.13 billion in September, 3.9 percent lower than in September 2015. “Subdued spending for oil and gas drilling continues to depress sales tax revenue,” Hegar said.

    From Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts

  • WUSRPH

    My predictions for the Speaker ad Lt. Governor’s “budget” goals for next session:
    Speaker
    *Budget with 4 to 5% growth over current
    * Extra $1 billion for public schools above amount for just student growth probably by increase in Basic Allotment
    *No vouchers
    *No tax cuts
    *Consider spending caps by categories, with different caps for different budget areas dependent on growth in the area (House Committee Substitute for SB 9 last session)
    *Restore some of cut in Acute Therapy spending
    *Deliberately underfund medical care (setting up need for a special appropriation in 2019 but allowing smaller budget this time)
    *Limit use of dedicate funds to $2 billion
    Lt. Governor
    *Budget with a 2 to 3% growth over current
    *Only increase in public school financing sufficient to cover student growth
    *$400 million for “trial” vouchers (Funded by reducing funding to local schools for each student who uses voucher)
    *1/2% cut in franchise tax rate
    *Caps on tuition in higher education, but no increase in funding (eat their muscle)
    *Revise formula for and extend constitutional spending cap to all budget (begin to strangle state govt.)
    *Tighten limits on local property tax increases (strangle local govt.)
    *Continue cuts in spending for Medicare Acute Therapy
    *Deliberately underfund Medicaid, etc. (setting up need for special appropriation in 2019 but allowing a smaller budget now)
    *Use $3 billion in undedicated funds to make budget appear to “balance”

    • WUSRPH

      Clarification:

      I have used the word “strangle” to describe the effect of the proposed spending cap limits on state govt. but that probably gives the impression of a more immediate impact than it would have.

      It will not immediately strangle state government but the tighter spending cap will be a gradual turn of the garotte screw on public finances. It will produce the same outcome but over a longer
      period of time.

  • John Bernard Books

    Some of you may have noticed the pearl like attacks by..well pearl and her shadow the juvenile bc for the reporting of the Wiki leaks……
    “Starting in late July, the organization released more than 19,000 e-mails showing that the Democratic Party had secretly conspired to thwart the campaign of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. WikiLeaks did not disclose the source of the e-mails; the U.S. government claims Russian hackers were responsible. Since posting that scoop, which led to the resignation of party chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Assange has seemed to align himself closely with the Donald Trump campaign, routinely promoting anti-Clinton memes and conspiracy theories and teasing further anti-Clinton leaks.”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/how-julian-assange-turned-wikileaks-into-trump-s-best-friend

    Don’t kill the messenger……for trying to warn us about Hillary and the dems….

  • John Bernard Books

    lies lies and more lies…..the coverup begins….
    “The White House on Tuesday denied there was any political interference in the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server after newly leaked emails showed discussions between a campaign aide and Department of Justice (DOJ) officials.
    “Both the attorney general and the FBI director have made clear that the investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a private email server was conducted without regard to partisan politics,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters aboard Air Force One.”
    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/300439-white-house-no-political-interference-in-clinton-email-probe

    who are you going to believe me or your lying eye…..thats a good dem….

  • John Bernard Books

    Are you a deplorable….
    “I know she has begun to hate everyday Americans, but I think we should use it once the first time she says I’m running for president because you and everyday Americans need a champion,” Podesta replied.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/11/leaked-emails-reveal-hillary-clinton-hates-the-phrase-everyday-americans/#ixzz4MrzsMJYC

    Of course she doesn’t hate you, she hates the guy standing next to you….fools.

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems continue war on Christians…
    “New revelations from the latest WikiLeaks dump has key Hillary Clinton aides and allies taking heat after they are caught attacking two major faith groups–evangelicals and Catholics– in email correspondence.

    The 2011 email chains are between Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri, Campaign Chairman John Podesta and John Halpin from the Center for American Progress, Trace Gallagher reported.”
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/11/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-campaign-aides-bash-catholics-evangelical-christians-palmieri

    Despicable….

  • John Bernard Books

    Pay to play…..well well well
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXk4E_LS33Q

  • John Bernard Books

    Who do you support the party of crooks the pay for play crowd the 47%ers, or the party of everyday Americans clinging to their guns and bibles the deplorables ….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCoFfmwaXJM

  • WUSRPH

    It appears fairly certain that after Trump loses (assumption) he will do all that he can to undermine a Clinton presidency, including challenging her legitimacy. BUT it now starts to look like he may go beyond that the challenge the GOP leadership as well. This may insure a total paralysis of the govt….something like the situation in Germany in early 1933……when it had become impossible for anyone or any party to successfully govern.

    • José

      Or, just perhaps, the pragmatic conservatives will finally jettison the do-nothing Tea Party faction and find common ground with a moderate majority. It’ll be darned interesting to see the composition of the next Congress. A shift in a few numbers might provide the opportunity for some actual governance.

      Unlikely, I know. But who could have predicted what we have today?

    • donuthin2

      I would have never dreamed that scenario would get much traction but I have been in a political blog with a group of Texans and I am simply amazed at some of the statements. I can’t imagine how we have empowered this guy but he has certainly captured the imagination of 35-40% of the population. Not enough to win, but enough to certainly be disruptive. I always thought when things got bad enough, leadership would emerge and things would right themselves. Not so sure. There are a group of citizens who so despise, hate Obama and Hillary, that they are willing to do most anything. I’ve never fully understood the absolute hatred, but I have about decided that is based on some underlying racial issues. They hate Obama, but are even more frustrated that he has not been a dismal failure and his approval ratings are quite high.

      • John Johnson

        Brexit.

      • WUSRPH

        I thought the anti-Christ was supposed to be a guy….but Alex Jones says that both Hillary and Obama are Demons from Hell. Does that make one or both of them the Anti-Christ or is he still to come?

  • SpiritofPearl
    • WUSRPH

      The Roger Williams situation, plus the Rep. Dukes and Reynolds cases, raise several ethics questions that might be worth a separate thread discussion. Perhaps Erica will consider that.

      As to the Williams case, he raises a real question about how far an elected official can use his/her “experience” and personal knowledge gained from a potential conflict of interest in advocating for specific proposals. Such personal knowledge can be important in giving other members an appreciation of an issue……but where Williams probably crossed the line is when he went from talking about the issue to actually offering the proposal and voting on an issue that meant possible financial gain to himself. But even then, there may be some questions. For example, what about the case he cites of a legislator who is a realtor voting on housing credits which conceivably could be involved in a real estate deal in which realtors might be involved.. In this example, that would mean that a realtor who engages in business where housing tax credits are involved should not vote, but what about one who simply sells homes? This is certainly not as direct of a potential conflict as Williams’ and raises the question of whether a vote in such a case is proper because of the degree of separation between the member and the potential gain.

      • SpiritofPearl

        “Caesar’s wife should be above suspicion,” and so should Caesar.

        • WUSRPH

          That’s perhaps too simple of a response to a issue that is not that simple. There is little like question in my mind that, as I said, Williams crossed the line since he had a direct financial interest in the outcome…..But I am not so sure about the realtor case I outlined….or how about a lawyer who is a partner in a firm that represents auto dealers? Can he vote on questions dealing with such dealers? or a candidate who received a contribution from an auto dealer in a case involving a proposal such as the one Williams’ offered? Too broad of a ban can make things somewhat ridiculous……If you push this to the limit you would wind up with almost no one being pure enough to be in elective office. I believed in ethics laws. I believe that they are necessary…..but I believe that they have to be realistic. I also believe that DISCLOSURE is probably almost, if not, as important as prohibitions…..

          • SpiritofPearl

            How many degrees of separation? It’s these sorts of ethical nitpickings that drive ordinary citizens nuts. Define standards and enforce them.

          • WUSRPH

            The current standards basically are that there has to be a direct connection between a vote and the interests of the legislator or his immediate relatives, etc. That would be the case–it appears—in the Williams case but not in the case of the realtor in my example. That is fairly well defined in the law.

            As I said, I think that DISCLOSURE of possible conflicts is almost as important as the prohibition on voting on something that benefits you. The problem today is that our disclosure laws are not adequate to provide the amount of disclosure I feel is required.

          • WUSRPH

            “nitpickings” can stand between a person’s freedom and jail where there was no criminal or unethical intent.

  • John Bernard Books

    How much will you let them steal tax dollars before you throw them out?
    “How many more of these dominoes need to fall before the highest level of Democrat controlled New York State government is definitively wrapped up in the ongoing corruption investigations? This saga has been dragging out since last year, with US Attorney Preet Bharara saying this summer that it definitely looked like there is corruption in the executive branch. For his part, Governor Andrew Cuomo was unusually frank when he responded by saying that it’s unrealistic to expect that there wouldn’t be any corruption in an organization this size. His words seem to have been proven true yet again this week as another top adviser to the Governor was forced to resign amid growing stories of corruption involving billions of dollars in taxpayer funds.”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/12/another-adviser-ny-gov-andrew-cuomo-resigns-amid-bid-fixing-scandal/

    ” it’s unrealistic to expect that there wouldn’t be any corruption in an organization this size.” I love it when a thieving dem makes the case for smaller government. Lock him up.

  • John Johnson

    Bi-political elitest corp’s twist arms and buy votes. The rest of us get screwed.
    How the Obama administration helped boost air fares
    http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2016/10/12/obama-administration-helped-boost-air-fares

  • John Bernard Books

    My work here is done. My purpose of posting here was to expose dem hypocrisy and of course laugh at the low information voters commenting here.
    But I didn’t have accomplish my goal of exposing dem bias and hypocrisy….Hillary’s run for prez did.
    All the leaked emails and other actions by dems have exposed dems for who they really are. But not one dem….not one has criticized her or the biased media…not one.
    That is very telling. If Hillary thinks hardworking everyday Americans are deplorable what does that make dems?

  • WUSRPH

    To try to get back to the original thread (one more attempt)…..It was pointed out to me today that it is quite possible that the next session of the legislature could get by with actually spending LESS state tax dollars on public education than it is now spending. That is possible because the increases in local property tax levies (resulting from valuation increases) and in the amount of Robin Hood recapture have been more than adequate to cover the cost of student enrollment growth, or any other cost-driver in the school finance system.

    In fact, because of this increase in money at the local level, the Texas Education Agency’s appropriations request proposes $40.2 billion All Funds for the Foundation School Program in 2018-19, or $2.1 billion less than the $42.3 billion All Funds budgeted for 2016-17.

    I, personally, don’t think it will wind up like that since, as I suggested last night in my post predicting the Speaker and Lt. Gov’s budget plans, I think the House will at least try to increase spending above what is just required by the existing formulas. But, as my source pointed out, that is not what the TEA is calling for.

    • John Bernard Books

      It is time for vouchers.

    • Jed

      cut cut cut

  • WUSRPH

    Back to another topic:

    Now that the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has said it will not help Atty. Gen. Paxton avoid facing a jury of his peers, has anyone heard anything about his plans to perhaps find another way to avoid a trial?

    State Rep. Dukes apparently thought that announcing that she would “retire” come January (and another year’s credit for her pension) would be enough to get the District Attorney to let her go…but, according to reports, she may not get off that easy. Those reports have her “negotiating” with the DA’s office for some other solution.

    Is it possible that Paxton could take a similar course and try to work out a deal–say to a plea to a high level misdemeanor–that would resolve the case without a jury trial and/or the possibility of a felony conviction that might bar him from being attorney? He could always try to sell it as “a minor dispute over a technicality” that he decided to resolve to end the distraction from his important duties. He might even think he could still run for re-election next time if enough of the GOP base thinks it was all a big to due over nothing.

    Any thoughts?

    P.S. Is there any chance that Paxton could try to sell the DA on the possibility that on appeal he might get off by pleading the “forgiveness doctrine” since he can argue that the voters knew about his problem and elected him anyway? Or, what about going back to the CCA this time citing that doctrine rather than challenging the indictment itself?

  • WUSRPH

    One last (before a new thread, I hope):
    Could any serious baseball fan have predicted the possibility of a Chicago-Cleveland world series?

  • WUSRPH

    Bill Clinton is being attacked for saying that the core of Trump supporters are “Rednecks”….Come on, folks, the guy if from ARKANSAS after all. If he doesn’t know a redneck when he sees one, nobody does.

    • John Bernard Books

      racist

  • WUSRPH

    I’ve heard of candidates telling their supporters to vote early, but Trump wants his supporters in Florida to vote LATE—29 days late in fact. He told a group of them to be sure to vote on Nov. 28th. The election date is, of course, Nov. 8th). Of course, it was a slip of the tongue for, as his VP choice said in the VP Debate, ‘”You know, the words don’t always come out exactly the way he means them.” But, what if he means it?
    Look at it this way….There are stories about in the “good old days” (up to the 1960 presidential election) the “Down State” GOP organizations in Illinois would hold up on reporting their vote totals until after the “Up state” Chicago Democratic Machine had reported its totals. The idea was to let them knowhow many votes they had to add to the totals to offset the similar cheating in Chicago. (When it is a GOP group it is always an “organization”. Democratic groups are always “machines”.)
    Could Trump have heard these stories and could he be planning to hold back, not just a part of a state, but the vote totals FROM THE ENTIRE STATE of Florida until he finds out if he needs more to win the election?

    • BCinBCS

      And IOKIYAR

      • WUSRPH

        Sorry but us old folks are not up to date with this shor-version of the language (sic). What did you say?

        • BCinBCS

          It’s
          O.K.
          If
          You’re
          A
          Republican

  • John Bernard Books

    Even government employees disgusted by Obama, Comey Lynch Clinton ignoring our laws and the Constitution…….
    ““No trial level attorney agreed, no agent working the case agreed, with the decision not to prosecute — it was a top-down decision,” said the source, whose identity and role in the case has been verified by FoxNews.com.
    A high-ranking FBI official told Fox News that while it might not have been a unanimous decision, “It was unanimous that we all wanted her [Clinton’s] security clearance yanked.””
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html

    Trump said he would appoint a special prosecutor to look into this if elected. That alone will elect Trump.

    • BCinBCS

      Source: Fox News

      • John Bernard Books

        How astute….

  • John Bernard Books

    It has a distinct sound…can you hear it?
    ” Hillary Clinton denounced “scorched earth” tactics by Republicans on Wednesday, saying Democrats must not allow themselves to turn away from the election in disgust.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-campaign-blasts-trumps-scorched-earth-tactics-as-protesters-accuse-her-husband-of-rape/2016/10/12/7b8a6df2-908f-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html

    Its called the clintonwhine…..

  • John Bernard Books

    Here we go again…
    The NY Times has a hit piece on Trump….
    Sound familiar? They did it to John McCain.
    “On February 21, 2008, in the midst of John McCain’s campaign in the 2008 Republican presidential primaries, both The New York Times and the Washington Post published articles detailing rumors of an improper relationship between John McCain and lobbyist Vicki Iseman.”
    after being sued and after the election the NY Times printed this…
    “However, as a condition of the settlement the New York Times printed an unusual “Note to Readers” stating that the Times had not intended to allege any affair.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain_lobbyist_controversy

    Yes the NY Times is in bed with dems. My question to dems is how can you allow them to play you like this every election. How can dems be this stupid?

    Some can proudly say we’ve never voted dem…..can you?

  • John Bernard Books

    We won a huge victory
    “The ruling is a major blow to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who proposed the CFPB in a 2008 law review article and has championed its radical agenda ever since.
    The bureau was created in 2010 by the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, and imbued with unparalleled powers over virtually every consumer financial product and service. Established within the Federal Reserve System, the bureau was designed to operate independently, and with virtually no oversight.”
    CFPB funding was set by law at a fixed percentage of the Federal Reserve’s operating budget. This budget independence has barred congressional oversight of the agency, and its status within the Fed also precludes presidential oversight. Even the Federal Reserve is statutorily prohibited from “intervening” in bureau affairs.
    http://dailysignal.com/2016/10/11/court-ruling-reins-in-unaccountable-financial-regulation-agency/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thf-fb

    By setting up a government agency with NO over sight….what could possibly go wrong? This was a pet project of Liz Warren and it speaks to why she is so dangerous to our country.

    • BCinBCS

      “….what could possibly go wrong?”

      Lack of political manipulation?

      • John Bernard Books

        Are you suggesting removing oversight and bureaucrats will comply with the rules, legal precedents and the US Constitution?
        Surely you’ve heard of Lois Lehner and the IRS “politically manipulating” conservative exempt organization’s applications? Congress has oversight over the IRS and she “politically manipulated” their applications.
        I can only draw the conclusion that you are stupid…..

        • BCinBCS

          Yes, JBB, I have heard of them and it was political manipulation that caused exactly what you are complaining.

          • John Bernard Books

            wha….?

  • John Bernard Books

    Are you embarrassed by Hillary?
    “Nearly 100,000 Pennsylvania Democrats have switched to Republican since the beginning of the year.
    What’s more: The Pennsylvania Republican party says more than 240-thousand new voters have joined the party since last November.
    The state Republican party says that the surge in Republican registrations is nearly twice the number of newly registered Republicans compared to both the 2008 and 2012 numbers combined.”
    http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/10/12/nearly-100000-pennsylvania-voters-switch-from-democrat-to-republican/
    Thousands are leaving the dem party…..due to the gutter politics of the Hillary’s campaign. In Texas you only have to pull the R by Trumps name and no one will ever know…..it is that ez.

    • BCinBCS

      You mean that Pennsyltucky has more registered Republican now? Well blow me over with a feather!
      I guess that the state will easily go Trump in the election, although the RCP poll has it Clinton +9.
      (You seem to be as correct about that as you are on everything else that you post.)

      • John Bernard Books

        I astounded you finally recognize how dumb you are.

        • BCinBCS

          Yet another example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

  • John Bernard Books

    Is Comey a dirty cop?
    “This is a big development. This means there are some great, traditional, honest people inside the FBI and DOJ who will not let this stand. They know that Comey is a dirty cop and they are disgusted.”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/13/former-us-attorney-career-fbi-agents-think-comeys-crook/

    LEOs hate a dirty cop more than anything…..

    • BCinBCS

      Source: Hotair
      (I hate idle chatter masquerading as fact more than anything…)

      • John Bernard Books

        no you don’t or you would STFU

        • BCinBCS

          This time, JBB, your reply is not the D-K effect but an example of projection.

  • SpiritofPearl
  • John Bernard Books

    The number 1 documentary of the year paints an ugly picture of sleaze by a corrupt Hillary
    http://hillarysamericathemovie.com/#dvd

    • BCinBCS

      That Dinesh D’Souza POS is as full of lies and half-truths as a typical Trump speech.

      • John Bernard Books

        what do you know about being a POS?

        • BCinBCS

          And this time, JBB, your reply is not the D-K effect or an example of projection, it’s merely junior high school level stupidity.

          • John Bernard Books

            Well what do you know?

  • WUSRPH

    Couple of interesting items:

    Elsewhere on the TM website is an piece, based on a Wall Street Journal article, on troubles with the Texas economy…..says Houston is virtually in a recession……The delayed impact of the oil price drop that some of us feared (perhaps too much)…..This has a continuing impact on the state budget situation discussed by Erica in this thread. It will be hard for Comptroller Hegar to produce an optimistic revenue estimate in January if the state continues to trail the nation as it has been for some months. From “leader” for several years to the tail end……all with the wise policies of the GOP.

    538 has Trump leading in Texas by 6.4%…A sizeable lead that it is more than doubtful that Clinton can close…More than 5 points used to be considered a “landslide win” but this 6.4 points has be to put into perspective (that concept that JJ hates so much) with what GOP presidential candidates have done in the past. For example, Romney got 57.17% in 2012 while Obama got only 41.38% and McCain got 55.45% to 43.68 in 2008. With Trump doing so much worse it has to give the Democrats hope for wins in the Gallego-Hurd recontest and in some Texas House of Reps. seats. BUT that hope may be misplaced. I say that based solely on some trends in other parts of the country where Trump is tanking but it does not seem to be having that much of an impact on the down-ballot GOP candidates. This suggests that the votes that Trump is losing (a whole lot of GOP women) are able to make a distinction between Trump and the rest of the GOP ticket. Has anyone seen any polls in Texas that suggest something similar may be happening here?

    • donuthin2

      I wish there were a concerted effort by the Clinton campaign in Texas, though I understand why there isn’t. I they could have put the election in play and made a difference in future elections. True to form, Texas is not showing much inclination to turn things around. I still can’t get over the fact that the Republicans have absolutely blown an opportunity to get back in the White House. Most anyone could be beating Clinton. I said at the time of the nomination that the Rs had done the Ds a huge favor. Because I disliked Cruz so much, but thought him to have a much better chance to beat Clinton, so I was glad to see Trump win. I gave up a long time ago on the Rs putting up a reasonable candidate. Wonder who will put it back together again

      • WUSRPH

        I thought that Sen. Sass might have a future as a GOP challenger of the “establishment”….but I fear that the Trumptarians will never forgive him for having the guts to actively oppose Trump. That probably rules him out for 2020.

    • BCinBCS

      I’d like to propose the legalization of recreational use of marijuana as one way of raising more tax dollars and reducing spending for the state. We could supplement black gold with green gold.

      • Gunslinger

        Well, that would mean that some people might have fun and feel good…and that makes some of us feel icky. So, no. Thank you, but, no.

      • John Bernard Books

        So you not just stupid you’re also high…..

      • WUSRPH

        We heard the same arguments used for bingo, horse/dog racing and the lottery and they are still being made for legalized gambling. Preying on sin and/or human weakness is somewhat lucrative but it will never produce the dollars really needed.

        • BCinBCS

          I don’t know W, you should see the dollars that Colorado, Washington and Oregon are bringing in before you prematurely pronounce it a failure. A lot more people smoke (and drink) than gamble or play the ponies.

          • WUSRPH

            I don’t doubt that it would bring in some cash…..but we are talking about a state budget of over $70 billion per year. You would have to tax a hell of a lot of weed for it make much difference….

  • John Bernard Books

    Trump knew that everyday Americans were not as dumb as the Clintons thought they were….
    “Donald Trump has just retaken a national lead over Hillary Clinton in a new Rasmussen poll that showed him trailing by seven on Monday. He now leads her 43 percent to 41 percent. ”
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2016/10/13/new-poll-donald-trump-takes-the-lead-over-hillary-clinton-n2231743

    Dems have met their match….will the race be the end of the dem party?

    • BCinBCS

      Somethings screwy with Rasmussen, it had Clinton up by 4 on Wednesday and Trump up by 2 on Thursday. I haven’t heard of Hillary killing a child or attacking the Statue of Liberty recently so a 6 point change doesn’t seem logical (especially since all of the other polls have Clinton ahead).

      The election is in a little over three weeks so we shall see if the Rasmussen poll results are truly a snapshot of what the electorate believes.

      BTW JBB, I really love the projection of your last sentence.

      • John Bernard Books

        Yes but can you understand it?

        • BCinBCS

          Ya, JBB, I understand your last sentence and the projection that it demonstrates.

          • WUSRPH

            Is that “projection” in the sense of projectile vomit?

          • BCinBCS

            That too. 😉

  • BCinBCS

    It would appear that Trump is laying the foundation for saving face and for his next grift. In what appears to be certain defeat, Trump is already making excuses for why the United States does not want him as President. As a pure narcissist, it would be impossible for him to admit defeat so he continues to claim that the election is being stolen from him. The outrage that this generates will transfer over to his proposed media company that he plans to start after the election to continue his grift of conservatives.

    Below are some quotes fro the New York Times about Trump’s claim. Of special interest is the statement of Dr. Douglas Brinkley of Rice University.

    Mr. Trump’s ominous claims of a “stolen election” — which he often links to black, urban neighborhoods — are not entirely new. But in recent days, he has been pressing the theme with a fresh intensity, citing everything from the potential for Election Day fraud to media bias favoring Mrs. Clinton to rigged debates.

    The country has not had a presidential candidate from one of the two major parties try to cast doubt on the entire democratic process and system of government since the brink of the Civil War, said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at Rice University.

    “I haven’t seen it since 1860, this threat of delegitimizing the federal government, and Trump is trying to say our entire government is corrupt and the whole system is rigged,” Mr. Brinkley said. “And that’s a secessionist, revolutionary motif. That’s someone trying to topple the apple cart entirely.”

    Said Brian Fallon, a spokesman for the Clinton campaign. ‘He is clearly trying to lay a foundation for challenging the legitimacy of the potential next president, just as he sought to do with the nation’s first African-American president.’

  • WUSRPH

    I guess you saw that the Texas Ethics Commission has dropped its probe into the activities of MQS and Empower Texas. but Sullivan says he isn’t satisfied and is suing the TEC to punish it for ever looking into his lobbying and other activities. I have no idea of why the Commission made its decision (by a 7-0-1 vote) but it looks BAD especially in light of the governor just having made two appointments and Lt. Gov. Patrick’s effort to force another commissioner to resign and, when that did not happen, had the panel dragged across the coals by a hostile committee. Patrick has always been sympathetic to (or frightened of) MQS…and Gov. Abbott never seemed to be able to find time when he was Atty. Gen. to act on the cases it referred to him for action….BUT? All this does is make an the state’s official ethics guard dog look like a toothless Chihuahua.

    • John Bernard Books

      That is precisely what this election is about, dems using government agencies paid for with tax dollars to harass conservatives……

  • John Bernard Books

    Grandma is now under oath…..but can’t recall nuttin….
    “Hillary Clinton submitted formal answers under penalty of perjury on Thursday about her use of a private email server, saying 20 times that she did not recall the requested information or related discussions, while also asserting that no one ever warned her that the practice could run afoul of laws on preserving federal records.
    Clinton also said she could not recall ever being warned about any hacking or attempted hacking of her private account or server.
    Clinton signed the legal filing Monday “under penalty of perjury.” The submission was ordered by a federal judge in connection with a Freedom of Information Action lawsuit filed by the conservative group Judicial Watch.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-answers-written-questions-in-email-lawsuit-229769#ixzz4N0zWxD7F

  • John Bernard Books
  • John Bernard Books

    I don’t recall….really I have no idea……
    “Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has said she “does not recall” ordering emails related to State Department business to be deleted or permanently erased from her personal server after she left her post in 2013, according to sworn testimony made public Thursday.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/clinton-does-not-recall-ordering-destruction-emails-from-personal-server-in-testimony.html

    Grandma has now lied under oath……will she beat it?

  • WUSRPH

    Governor Abbott must be seeing polls that the rest of us aren’t……since he is predicting even a closer finish in Texas…At least that’s the impression one gets from the fund raising e-mail he sent me today.

    Most polls (see my post on the 538 figures below) have Trump ahead by as many as 6 points by, according to Abbott, it may be much closer than that….In fact, if you take what he wrote literally, the Democrats could even be ahead based on comments such as his:

    “….With a shocking 1-point lead here in the Lone Star State, Democrats are holding nothing back”

    and his statement that:

    “….And now the Democrats see Texas as a “toss-up” state because of their
    shocking lead in the latest poll…”
    Won’t it be nice if this was more than a fund raising effort to frighten a few dollars out of the unknowing?

    • donuthin2

      Republicans don’t need fund raisers as much as they need to disown Trump. They are wimps.

    • John Bernard Books

      Dead voters haven’t voted in Texas since LBJ in ’48.

  • WUSRPH

    EXCITING NEWS:

    From the Austin American-Statesman:

    Texas Monthly magazine was sold Thursday for $25 million.

    The Austin-based publication is being acquired from Indianapolis-based Emmis Communications by Genesis Park LP, an entity formed by Paul Hobby.

    Members of the influential Hobby family have a deep history in Texas journalism, having once owned the now-defunct Houston Post newspaper as well as TV and radio stations in Houston.

    The transaction is expected to close early next month, according to Emmis, which has owned Texas Monthly since 1998

    • BCinBCS

      I grew up south of Houston, taking the local paper and the Houston Post (at that time, the morning paper, rather than the Houston Chronicle, the evening paper). I always thought that it was an excellent paper. Let’s hope that tradition continues.

    • dave in texas

      Indiana-based? Does that mean Pearl is going to be editor-in-chief?

  • WUSRPH

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2016/10/13/the-obama-expansion/
     

    Lately I’ve been expressing (elsewhere) some concern about the possibility of a recession in the near future. It is just a gut feeling, not based on the kind of data you really need to make such a determination….BUT others disagree and have the numbers to show that most Americans—-no matter what Trump and JJ say—are better off today. It might be of interest to you.

    • BCinBCS

      W, this is going to hurt JJ, but from the article that you referenced:

      …it’s clear that most American households made more income progress under Obama[‘s last three years] than households of comparable ages under George W. Bush or his father, George H.W. Bush.”
      [snip]
      “The data … below show[s] that incomes grew at a faster annual rate over the last three years than they did on average over the eight years of Reagan’s presidency for all three age cohorts [Millennials, Gen X and Boomers], and faster than they did on average over the eight years of Clinton presidency for two of the three age cohorts.

      Ouch.

  • John Bernard Books

    In real life someone would’ve gotten fired….
    “Remember the disastrous rollout of the Obamacare website in October 2013? It turns out that even some people in Hillary Clinton’s inner circle thought someone should have been fired over that mess.
    Neera Tanden, president of the Clinton-aligned Center for American Progress, sent an email to John Podesta on March 16, 2014 in which she offered her opinion that it was a mistake for the Obama administration not to fire someone. “I think it was a strategic error not to fire anyone in health care,” Tanden wrote. “carol Shea porter yelled at me about this for 10 min the other day,” she added, referring to the New Hampshire congresswoman.
    “I’m trying to be artful here bc of the WH Conference but I do think in real life people would have gotten fired a long time ago,” Tanden wrote, adding, “And not just people in the agency no one cares about.””
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/13/clinton-ally-obamacare-website-real-life-people-gotten-fired/

    But the gov isn’t real life its an extension of the dem party….and to be used against the tax payers by dems…..

  • John Bernard Books

    They’re back…..remember the Clinton stench from the 90’s, an impeached prez, their sexual perversions, a first lady who can’t recall, the lies, the scandals…..the stench…
    ““The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure,” the Republican nominee said at a rally in West Palm Beach, Fla. “Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed. They will attack you, they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family. . . . They will lie, lie, lie.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-groping-allegations-are-part-of-a-global-conspiracy-to-help-clinton/2016/10/13/e377d7e4-915a-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html

    As grandma disappears off the campaign trail the Clinton machine led by the MSM ratchets up the smears…….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4j7ggZqbiU

    • BCinBCS

      What lie is JBB trying to peddle now? According to his post, it would appear that the Washington Post was somehow agreeing with the Republicans that Hillary Clinton is the political equivalent of the mafia.

      Instead, here is JBB’s quote in context:

      Donald Trump issued a breathtaking call to arms Thursday as he emphatically denied allegations that he groped and kissed multiple women without their consent, charging that his accusers were part of a global conspiracy to extinguish his outsider movement.

      Scrambling to turn around his floundering campaign, Trump declared war on the news media and multinational corporations, ­alleging that they are colluding with Democratic nominee ­Hillary Clinton to orchestrate “the single greatest pile-on in history” and undermine his ­campaign, which he said was an “existential threat” to the global establishment.

      “The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure,” the Republican nominee said at a rally in West Palm Beach, Fla. “Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed. They will attack you, they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family. . . . They will lie, lie, lie.”

      Trump’s fiery invective came just minutes after first lady Michelle Obama tried to summon the morality of a nation by saying that Trump’s degrading comments about women were an affront to all citizens.

      The dueling speeches made for a remarkable moment in a roiling presidential campaign and signaled that the final 25 days would focus not on policy or ideology but on character.

      Seems a little different in context, doesn’t it?

  • John Bernard Books

    Gun control by executive order….”if anyone can do she can do it.”
    Forget the Constitution, forget SCOTUS rulings….Hillary will rule by executive fiat if she can steal the election….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrUUXOHgzg

  • donuthin2

    Watched a replay of Michele Obama’s speech last night. It is probably the best political speech I have ever watched. Her presentation, choice of words, the controlled emotion and the message she showed were all remarkable.

  • John Bernard Books

    Some have trouble understanding the economy so I’ll help them out…
    “The Economy.
    Today, the spending of our state and local governments is 37% of the economy. Our spending in response to regulations and government mandates exceeds 12% of the economy. In other words, half our economy is either government spending or our reaction to it. That is draining the private sector and therefore wilting our national economy. That didn’t happen over night. 50+ years of spending growth by both parties is to blame. That is why our 50-year growth rate slide is occurring.
    The only way to change that dynamic is to either (1) shrink the government sector or (2) grow the private sector.”
    Under a Hillary presidency, neither will occur. Republicans over the last 8 years have not reformed any major government program. Would they do so under Hillary? Easy prediction: our governments will spend more 4 years from now than they do today and we will have more regulations – and that will weaken the economy and long term growth even further.
    The difference if Trump wins…
    “The Economy: There is a real difference between Trump and Hillary on the economy. Trump will push for tax reform and will push for regulatory reform. The amount he gets depends on whether he is willing to build a national coalition around the need for it after he wins. Those will be his first acts. The economy will do better than it is now if those reforms are passed and the private sector will grow at a greater rate than it is now. That means the public sector will likely shrink below those 37%/12% marks and the lower it gets the better the long-term growth prospects. This is one area where the results will be rather different. On the other hand, if Trump leads with a trade war that divides the nation and will hurt the economy, he could ground his presidency to a near halt from day one and jeopardize the Republicans 2018 Midterm prospects. As for the stock market, broad based growth could lead to less market growth because investment money will find more places to get returns than just the market.”
    It sounds like Trump will be better for the US…
    “As for this election, I look at it this way: Trump has a long history of delegating authority to those best able to do certain tasks. Hillary does not. Hillary will not be able to court Congress because it is her way or the highway. Trump has Pence. Donald therefore trumps Hillary.”
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2016/10/05/what-if-hillary-wins-trump-my-predictions-about-2017-beyond/#73b58e992c9a

    Boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trump trumps Hillary

    • BCinBCS

      Boom is right!!!
      No bias there. It’s merely an opinion piece in Forbes by Thomas Del Beccaro who, according to his bio is “the former Chairman of the CA Republican Party and … a former candidate for the U.S. Senate seat in California. [He’s] considered to be the most Heard Voice in CA Republican Politics…”

      • John Bernard Books

        I take it you really liked the part about smaller government?
        here’s some facts…
        “‘From 1790 to 2000, U.S. real GDP growth averaged 3.79 percent,’
        and Obama’s legacy
        Obama is the only U.S. chief executive in history not to preside over even a single year with 3 percent GDP growth,

        entrepreneur Louis Woodhill explained at RealClearMarkets. He expects final figures to show that ‘2015 will have been the tenth year in a row that real GDP growth came in at under 3.0 percent.’
        During the Obama years, the number of Americans below the poverty line is up 3.5 percent.
        Real median household income: down 2.3 percent.
        Americans on Food Stamps — 33 million then, 46 million now: up 39.5 percent.
        Americans who own homes: down 5.6 percent.
        National debt — $10.63 trillion then vs. $19.19 trillion last Wednesday: up 80.5 percent.”
        “http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435093/barack-obama-economy-jobs-ugly-truth
        BOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • BCinBCS

          Since taking office Obama has among other things:
          (1) steered the nation through the worst recession in U.S. history – a recession caused by and on Republican administrations;
          (2) passed an $800 billion stimulus package to pull us out of the recession (a feeble medium size stimulus rather than the large stimulus that the Republicans in Congress did not allow coupled with a large down-size of the Federal government jobs);
          (3) decreased the deficit by three-quarters to under 3% since he took office;
          (4) added jobs for 78 consecutive months – the longest period of growth in U.S. history;
          (5) lowered the unemployment rate fro 10% to 5%;
          (6) shepherded economic growth that outpaced every other advanced nation;
          (7) provided the conditions where the Dow-Jones average increased from 7,000 to 18,000;
          (8) signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Reform and Consumer Protection Act;
          (9) passed the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare);
          (10) raised the Federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour.

          Could he have done more?
          Certainly if he did not have a Republican opposition whose only mission was to stop every one of his policies in order to make him a “one term President”.

          So, why does everything seem so bad when it actually isn’t?
          President Obama states: “And if you have a political party — in this case, the Republicans — that denies any progress and is constantly channeling to their base, which is sizable, say, 40 percent of the population, that things are terrible all the time, then people will start absorbing that.”

          Boom!!!!!

          • John Bernard Books

            “Since taking office Obama has among other things:”
            mostly failed….

          • BCinBCS

            Being as you are a high ranking member of the ignorati, I don’t put much stock in your opinion of complex economic or political matters.

  • donuthin2

    And later, watched possibly the worst. He isn’t even trying to win any longer, just trying to do damage any way he can. Republicans need to grow some gonads and disown him. I can’t believe that even those with all the political capital they need, will not show some courage.

    • John Bernard Books

      Repubs need to unite behind Trump and clean the clinton stench out of DC…

    • José

      It reminds me of the climatic scene in the movie “Carrie”. I’m going to burn this place down and all of you with me. That is the nominee of the Republican Party for President, a spiteful, hateful, selfish, vulgar man with no sense of decency or self-control.

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems in bed with Wall Street…
    “This was October 6. The election was November 4. And yet Froman, an executive at Citigroup, which would ultimately become the recipient of the largest bailout from the federal government during the financial crisis, had mapped out virtually the entire Obama cabinet, a month before votes were counted. And according to the Froman/Podesta emails, lists were floating around even before that.
    Many already suspected that Froman, a longtime Obama consigliere, did the key economic policy hiring while part of the transition team. We didn’t know he had so much influence that he could lock in key staff that early, without fanfare, while everyone was busy trying to get Obama elected. The WikiLeaks emails show even earlier planning; by September the transition was getting pre-clearance to assist nominees with financial disclosure forms.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/137798/important-wikileaks-revelation-isnt-hillary-clinton
    A Citigroup exec hand picked Obama’s cabinet, then Citigroup received the largest bailout……pay for play.

    Dem voters are stupid…….

    • BCinBCS

      JBB, you are so amazingly gullible but that’s to be accepted when your idea of learning about an issue is to simply lick the icing of the large slice that is the problem.

      • John Bernard Books

        “Many already suspected that Froman, a longtime Obama consigliere, did the key economic policy hiring while part of the transition team. We didn’t know he had so much influence that he could lock in key staff that early, without fanfare, while everyone was busy trying to get Obama elected. ”
        hahaha

        • Gunslinger

          Are we talking about Abe Froman here? The Sausage King of Chicago?

          • John Bernard Books

            you into sausages now?

  • John Bernard Books

    Is Hillary too bullheaded to be a good leader?
    “A few months later, in a September 2015 email, a Clinton confidante fretted that Mrs. Clinton was too bullheaded to acknowledge she’d done wrong. “Everyone wants her to apologize,” wrote Neera Tanden, president of the liberal Center for American Progress. “And she should. Apologies are like her Achilles’ heel.”
    and the media covers for her…
    “The leaks also show that the press is in Mrs. Clinton’s pocket. Donna Brazile, a former Clinton staffer and a TV pundit, sent the exact wording of a coming CNN town hall question to the campaign in advance of the event. Other media allowed the Clinton camp to veto which quotes they used from interviews, worked to maximize her press events and offered campaign advice.”
    how will she govern?
    “Mrs. Clinton has been exposed to have no core, to be someone who constantly changes her position to maximize political gain. Leaked speeches prove that she has two positions (public and private) on banks; two positions on the wealthy; two positions on borders; two positions on energy. Her team had endless discussions about what positions she should adopt to appease “the Red Army”—i.e. “the base of the Democratic Party.”
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-press-buries-hillary-clintons-sins-1476401308
    she will govern by polls much like the present admin…..Obama owns the worst prez ever position. Will she try to make him look good?

  • SpiritofPearl

    Will Ft. Bend County turn blue?

    http://juanitajean.com/fort-bend-county/

  • SpiritofPearl
  • WUSRPH

    The Donald now says there is “Global conspiracy” against him…sounds more and more like that fellow from Germany every day.

  • WUSRPH

    http://tinyurl.com/grd9o9p
     
    Boy, I did not know the influence I have…..I say one thing about a possible recession and the next day The Economist runs a piece on the subject. See above.

    P.S. That’s a joke…you do not need to worry about me joining The Donald in the world of megalomania. I know how little influence I have on anything.

  • WUSRPH

    I sure hope the sale of TM won’t affect us getting a new thread soon or continuing with the Burkablog…

    • John Bernard Books

      dems are in a panic Burqua blog has been sold to a conservative group out of Ft Bend.

  • WUSRPH

    Question: What does it mean for the future of the GOP and American politics (at least in the short term) If there is a disconnect between the way people vote against Trump and the way they vote on down-the-ballot races? What happens if, as I fear, the voters say no to Trump but, at the same time, Clinton proves to have little or no coat tails and the Congress winds up just about as it is now with the Democrats picking up only a couple of seats in the Senate and a handful in the House?

    The JJs of this would like to believe that Trump’s rise reflects massive public discontent with the way things are done in Washington/Austin/Dallas and everywhere else. They hoped it would bring about the “revolution” they think is necessary to end “business as usual”……BUT what if the result is a rejection of Trump? Will the “establishment” (including the GOP version) see that as a vindication proving that the majority does not see that much need for a change or minor changes at the most?

    Of course, it is also possible—maybe even likely–that the outcome will be seen as a rejection of Trump—as Trump–and not of the feeling and frustration and despair he is supposed to represent. At least that is the line I expect we will hear from JJ and his friends. In that case, we could see the rise of a “new Trump, without the Trumpisms” over the next few years and only a postponement of JJ’s revolution. If that were to happen it will be interesting to see how The Donald reacts. He may well see a defeat this year as the equivalent of the failure of the “Beer hall Putsch” of 1923 and have plans to continue onward. As such, he might not look favorably on someone trying to pick up the pieces of “HIS” movement.

    What would that new “Trumpism, without Trump” be like? Would it be even more authoritarian and anti-democracy with a little “d” reflecting the claims by some that if Trump loses, it was the “last chance” to save America thru the electoral system?
    Any thoughts?

    P.S. A disconnect would not be that unusual. Despite all the talk about “coat tails” and the “coat tail effect”, it has actually been a factor in only a few
    elections….such as Roosevelt in 1932, LBJ in 1964 and St. Ronald in 1980.

    • donuthin2

      Rumour has it that the trumpets that see the likelihood of a loss are talking to Jerry Springer about his interest in being their guy.

      • BCinBCS

        Are you trying to punk us or is this actually true?

        • WUSRPH

          I fairly sure it is joke…..but Springer would be better than Trump. I think Jeff Sessions is more likely.

          • John Bernard Books

            WASSUP….this proves how gullible you and other dems are…..

        • donuthin2

          Just being saracastic

          • BCinBCS

            O.K. good because the way that the GOP has deteriorated, I could see how it might be true.
            (I think that there is an internet Law that covers this sort of thing. Roughly, it states that one can never be certain whether some crazy claim or statement is actually true because it just might be.)

          • BCinBCS

            Found it.
            Poe’s Law: “Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humour, it is impossible to create a parody of fundamentalism that someone won’t mistake for the real thing.”

        • John Bernard Books

          really he needs to explain this to you?….just how stupid are you……nevermind

          • BCinBCS

            You think I’m stupid because I don’t know if the latest Republican outrageous statement is true? Haven’t you been paying attention? Donuthin’s exaggeration is no more outrageous than many of the true statements of Repubs.

  • WUSRPH

    I cannot seem to find a way to give you a link to it…but if you can find it, I think you will really like Jonah Goldberg’s weekly Goldberg File column on National Review on-line. It is about the best analysis of the current situation in the presidential election I have seen. More than worth your attention. I particularly liked his comparison of today’s situation to the last scene in the first Planet of the Apes movie…..”You blew it”.

    Have a good weekend. Hope we get a new thread soon.

  • John Bernard Books

    Turns out NBC lied about its “Trump tape”
    “NBC is in damage control regarding its handling of an 11-year-old recording NBC News and NBC executives insist they were unaware of the existence of the recording until last week. The stance that no one outside “Access Hollywood” knew of the tape is disputed by people close to Messrs. Silverstein and Bush, who feel their show and staff are being “thrown under the bus” to protect the news unit.”
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/nbcs-trump-video-misfire-leads-to-finger-pointing-1476468395?mod=e2fb

    They edited the tape and they lied….it the MSM what do you expect?

    • BCinBCS

      JBB opined about the Wall Street Journal article: “They edited the tape and they lied….they’re the MSM what do you expect?

      This article says nothing about the Access Hollywood being edited. JBB, do you bother to read the (mostly crap) articles that you post? If you do, you should get someone to explain to you what they are saying.

      • John Bernard Books

        and here you are reading everyone…wordsmithing my comments till 4am? Who is the dummy……

        • BCinBCS

          It’s interesting that you are more concerned about when I awake each morning than you are about the accuracy of the articles that you post.

          • John Bernard Books

            I have no interest in you….I do however laff at your stupidity…..

          • BCinBCS

            Pure Dunning-Kruger on your part.

  • John Bernard Books

    How high up does the criminal act go?
    “The email from Podesta to Mills, titled “Special Category,” reads: “Think we should hold emails to and from potus? That’s the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but I(t) seems like they will.””
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/wikileaks-podesta-asks-clintons-lawyer-think-we-should-hold-emails-and

    Prez Obama neck deep in criminal activity all along….will this bring down his presidency?

    • BCinBCS

      From the very article that JBB is somehow trying to imply that there was wrongdoing:

      At the Jan. 29, 2016 State Department briefing, spokesman John Kirby told reporters:

      “As the White House has previously stated, Secretary Clinton and the President did on occasion exchange emails. As they have also said previously, such presidential records shall remain confidential to protect the President’s ability to receive unvarnished advice and counsel but will ultimately be released in accordance with the Presidential Records Act.

      JBB, either you are an extreme low-life that will distort and lie about anything to try to have your way or you are the most incredibly ignorant person on the face of the earth.

      Almost 100% of your BB posts turn out to be distortions or outright lies. Great track record.

      • John Bernard Books

        I know you’re not that smart but are you a complete moron. Prez Obama said he knew nothing about Hillary’s emails….while emailing her.

        • BCinBCS

          JBB, I have done a fairly extensive google search for Obama ever stating that he knew nothing about Hillary’s e-mails. Since, as you claimed, he was communicating with her by e-mail it would seem implausible that he would make such a statement. So, the ball is in your court. Please provide the link(s) to your claim that he did not know about her e-mailing.

          • John Bernard Books

            It is everywhere on the interweb and you cannot find it…..hahaha
            ” President Obama discovered former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of personal email at the same time as news readers.
            Obama, after delivering a Saturday speech in Selma, Ala., was asked when he found out about Clinton’s personal email system run from her Chappaqua home.
            “The same time everybody else learned it through news reports,” he told CBS News.”
            http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-learned-hillary-clinton-email-news-article-1.2141378

            now get this……this was while he was emailing…..hahaha. You’ve an idiot.

          • BCinBCS

            You are a fool. Do you know what server each person that you e-mail uses? Do you bother to trace the server hand-off route that your messages take? Now if you don’t know this information, why would anyone else, including the President, know this? It fascinates me how your brain doesn’t work.

  • John Bernard Books

    Voter fraud is rampant in America…
    ” Indeed according to a Pew Research report from February 2012, one in eight voter registrations are “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.” Since there are 146 million Americans registered to vote, this translates to a stunning 18 million invalid voter registrations on the books. Further, “More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters, and approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.” Numbers of this scale obviously provide ripe opportunity for fraud.”
    and this
    “So now that we know voter fraud is a serious issue, what are some solutions to this problem? States like Michigan have Poll Challenger programs, where observers from both parties may be present at voter check-in tables at precincts. They check each voter’s ID against a database of registered voters for that precinct to ensure the person attempting to vote is actually legally qualified to vote in that precinct. If there’s a discrepancy, the poll challenger may officially challenge the ballot. Other states should implement similar programs.”
    http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/

    so why are dems denying voter fraud exists? Why are they against voter ID?
    Because they have been stealing elections forever.

    • BCinBCS

      That article does not say that there is voter fraud. How can your reading comprehension be so terrible?

      Doesn’t it embarrass you even a little to almost always be wrong?

      • John Bernard Books

        You’re a typical dem….there are several instances of voter fraud listed.

  • WUSRPH

    Speaking about the future of the GOP—as I was at least a little bit in my post, blow—long time readers of this blog will remember that as early as last spring I was projecting that, after the lose this year, the GOP will, effectively, split into three factions. Today, I think I’d make that four:
    * The Trumptarians who will continue to follow Trump despite his lost.
    * A group of “Trumptarians Without Trump” who will argue that the loss was due to Trump’s personal weaknesses and not to any weakness in their message of the need for radical rightist changes;
    * The social issues/evangelicalists with a small number of Trumptarians; and
    * Traditional business oriented Republicans.
    At one time I thought that Ted Cruz would play a leading role in at least one of these factions, but today I am not so sure…Of course, he will certainly be able to claim “I told you so” after Trump goes down….but will either group of Trumptarians ever forgive him enough to let him be a leader?
    Two other small items for your weekend consideration:
    * What is it about the GOP that makes it impossible for them to admit that their just might be something wrong with their “message” and makes them want to blame the process of selecting their nominee?
    After 2012 GOP leaders were blaming Romney’s loss at least partially on “defects” in their nominating process and denying it had anything to do with the message they were trying to sell to the voters. This year—even before the election has been held—some are again already talking about a defective nominating process producing a weak nominee.
    In 2012 the defect in the nominating process was said to be that the GOP had two many debates and took too long to select its nominee. That process, they claimed, left them with a nominee who had already been weakened by the attacks on him by other Republicans (Remember the great hit on Romney by Newt when he identified Romney’s brand of capitalism as being “vulture capitalism”?) To solve that they reduced the number of debates this year.
    This year the talk is that the problem with the nominating process was that there were too many candidates. This, they are suggesting, also delayed the selection of a nominee and made it impossible for the majority in the party (the anti-Trumpites) to unify behind a candidate. As a result, the party nominated a candidate who could appeal only to a plurality of Republicans and general election voters. What they do about this “excess” of candidates is not clear….but it may involve further changes in the nominating process designed to limit the number of candidates.
    * Donald Trump may not be the only GOPer who thinks that a “global conspiracy” (in which the main street media plays a major part) is ganging up on him to keep his message from being heard. Based on comments he made this week, it seems Ted Cruz may think a similar MSM conspiracy kept him from being the GOP nominee. Cruz claimed that the media had the “locker room talk” tape for many months and could have released it last Spring when it would have helped his candidacy, but did not, he suggested, because the MSM was biased against him.

    • BCinBCS

      America First Party No Nothing Party (at least the No Nothing Party resulted in the election of Lincoln)

      Jeez, the problem that the Republicans have is not the nominating process or how many candidates are running, it’s simply the crazy ideas and policies on which these candidates run. The current Republican party runs on a RWNJ platform.

      The media bias claim is the excuse of unqualified candidates for their failings. Anyone running for President by definition has hubris. Their egos will not allow them to believe that they lost because they were incompetent or had policies that no one supports.

    • SpiritofPearl

      Heard a Boston College political historian on NPR the other day. She discussed the difference between “traditional” Republicans, such as Lincoln, and “movement Republicans” which we mostly have now — two different animals.

      Here’s a chilling precis of our situation. Can we put the genie back in the bottle?

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/opinion/burning-down-the-house.html?ref=opinion

      • WUSRPH

        Thanks for the site….Yes, it is chilling, I saw a column in the National Review on-line today that might be of interest. It identifies the source of the greatest threat to America as not being Clinton or even Trump but RAGE—-the illogical, unjustified rage against the world of the radical right and the similar feelings on the far left. We have seen it more from the right on this blog….often in JJ’s comments. But it is there in the left as well. Trump (and Bernie Sanders to an extent) have fed off this rage. Trump has even made it semi-respectable to express it in the foulest most uncivilized ways.

        http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441089/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-american-republic-faces-bigger-threats?

        • SpiritofPearl

          The rage is much more intense on the right and stems from different emotions than that on the left. The right seem like angry children throwing tantrums. The left are appalled at the lack compassion for other human beings.

      • BCinBCS

        Great article, Pearl.

        • SpiritofPearl

          Thanks!

          Mr. W’s link to the E. J. Dionne article is a way to think about remedies.

  • John Johnson

    I’ve missed all you pedants, somewhat. Old habits are hard to break. I have found that reading a good book is time much better spend than saying the same old over and over again. This thread has over 400 posts and 80% are originated by the same crew. It has grown old. I remember what it used to be…even when Morrow was interjecting his crazy stuff. We have run off the “political insiders” posting pertinent info, as Burka envisioned, and ended up with a beat down, political flunky, using this site to build up his legacy as a fall back. Austin, as shown, with the ethics committee ruling today, that politics stink. It has been reeking all the way back to when the Professor was doing his thing. He was the one shoveling this stuff on us commonbreds.

    • John Bernard Books

      enjoy Hillary and dems are imploding….

    • WUSRPH

      I assume the insults are meant for me…..Only a few comments:
      First, “guru”….Hell, no. Nothing close. Just a somewhat informed old timer with too much time on his hands
      Second, I make too many posts. I plead guilty. In fact, I’m probably getting close to the number posted by the Troll….although I think the more than 7000 up votes I have received suggests that not all of my posts are as meaningless as his. But that does not mean that I don’t need to cut back.
      Third, I complained about the TEC actions several days ago. But back when I was “doing my thing” was when the Leg. was passing ethics reforms. Not enough…but something. By the way, have you considered my suggestion that you confront you new favorite legislator about his views on ethics reforms?
      Fourth, expect to see you around.

  • BCinBCS

    A number of RWNJ’s have stated that if Hillary Clinton is elected President, there will be a revolution. I saw this and laughed loudly out loud. I thought that y’all might like it too:
    .

  • John Bernard Books

    It all boils down to this…
    “Although the federal government brought in approximately $3.27 trillion in revenue in fiscal 2016, according to the Treasury, it also spent approximately $3.85 trillion, leaving a deficit of approximately $587 billion.”
    http://freebeacon.com/issues/government-collects-3-27-trillion-taxes-fiscal-year-2016/

    Hillary wants to grow government and raise your taxes.
    Trump wants to cut the size of government and your taxes.
    Thanks to dems you owe $19,000,000,000,000,000.00 thats Trillion with a capital T.

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems love to smear so they can hide from the issues. One less than bright commenter here can tell Trump is a cokaine user because he had the sniffles.
    So I called Trump and suggested he and grandma be drug tested before the debate….
    “Donald Trump on Saturday called for himself and Hillary Clinton to take a drug test prior to the third presidential debate.”
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/301181-trump-calls-for-drug-test-before-debate

    grandma is in seclusion….hiding.

  • John Bernard Books

    Just another goofy dem….
    “Jessica Leeds accused a young Donald Trump of groping her in first class on a flight from Dallas to New York City on Braniff Air in 1979.”
    just a few problems tho…
    “The armrests on Braniff 727s appear to be stationary, they can’t be raised.
    She also used lyrics from the Velvet Underground song to describe the alleged “groping.”
    Leeds also said if Trump had kept his hands above the waist she might have been ok with it
    …Huh?
    Tonight a British passenger on the same plane as Trump and Leeds refuted her claims.
    Anthony Gilberthorpe said Jessica Leeds was flirting with Trump and Trump never touched her.
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/list-debunked-groper-allegations-corrupt-media-donald-trump/

    I suspect she’s related to pearl……

  • SpiritofPearl

    Trump claims he’s a “star.”

    Paul Newman was a star. Liz Taylor was a star. Trump was a fat has-been when he got a “tee vee” show. He’s only a star in his own mind.

  • John Bernard Books

    Hillary will take us to war so she and Bill can steal…
    “There’s no doubt that Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street. Even more dangerous, though, is that she is the candidate of the military-industrial complex. The idea that she is bad on the corporate issues but good on national security has it wrong. Her so-called foreign policy “experience” has been to support every war demanded by the US deep security state run by the military and the CIA.
    Hillary and Bill Clinton’s close relations with Wall Street helped to stoke two financial bubbles (1999-2000 and 2005-8) and the Great Recession that followed Lehman’s collapse. In the 1990s they pushed financial deregulation for their campaign backers that in turn let loose the worst demons of financial manipulation, toxic assets, financial fraud, and eventually collapse. In the process they won elections and got mighty rich.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-is-the-candidate_b_9168938.html

    The clintons are known liars, a trait most dems admire…as the peaceniks get rickrolled the clintons get wealthier.

  • WUSRPH

    http://tinyurl.com/gnrkfe8

     Excellet column by E J Dionne on what needs to be done post election to deal with the anger…

    • Beerman

      Thanks, good read.

    • John Johnson

      On the whole, a fairly good take on things…but who in their right mind thinks that Hillary is going to a) address and adjust unfair trade practices; b), enforce anti-trust laws, which Dionne failed to address, c), put some restraints on speculating and banks being able to gamble on Wall Street, d) change the lobbying laws and the way K Street dangles carrots, and the size of the carrots, and e), secure the border and enforce current immigration laws?

      I expect several of you think that she can, and will, address all of these…and there is no doubt she will; the problem is that she will just give it lip service; she won’t bite the hands that have lifted the Clinton’s into mega rich category. She will not use her bully pulpit to make people aware; she will not pressure her party, the progressive elements, and moderate conservatives to join forces and grow the numbers behind detailed, workable change. My fear is that we will just see more of the same. Unfortunately, she is not in control. She is subject to large scale blackmail by those foreign entities who have sent her foundation millions, and even by those Wall Street crooks who have done the same…for overpaid, boring speeches and a foundation that doles out squat as a percentage of intake. We are an ignorant lot. Old pedants are not immune to this ignorance.

  • SpiritofPearl

    Evolution is the driving force within all living systems. Change is constant. We must adapt to change or we will become extinct.

    “Just because you don’t believe in natural selection doesn’t mean it isn’t happening all the time.”

    —– Darwin Awards

  • SpiritofPearl

    Remember that sexual assault has nothing to do with passion or the attractiveness of the victim. It is a crime of sadism, of dominance and intimidation.

  • John Johnson

    500+ posts here by a handful of people all basically repeating the same things. How many have had their minds changed by what they have read? I think we all know the answer. It grows old. The new TM owners should shut BB down and allow the Professor Pedant to start his own blog visited by sheep all wanting to rub and pat each other’s backs.

  • John Bernard Books

    The clinton’s life of deceit
    ““Politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching . . . then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position.”
    The sausage maker was Mrs. Clinton, giving one of her $225,000 speeches that she’s so long sought to conceal from the public, in this instance to the National Multi-Housing Council in April 2013. It came at a time when the just-retired secretary of state was coyly gearing up for a White House run, little tin cup at the ready, raking in nearly a million dollars that month alone.”
    http://nypost.com/2016/10/15/the-hillary-emails-reveal-a-life-full-of-deceit/

    This why dems can’t run on the issues, ie the debt, an out of control government, a punitive tax system. They have to run a campaign of deceit….with two position one public and one private.

  • John Bernard Books

    This is why the media can no longer be trusted….
    “Brazile was revealed to be Clinton’s mole at CNN, feeding information about attacks from the Sanders campaign during the primary. But another email suggested that Brazile may have even facilitated the Clinton campaign’s access to questions ahead of televised town hall meetings.
    CNN’s Jake Tapper spoke to WMAL’s Larry O’Connor and Brian Wilson about his former colleague:
    “It’s a very, very troubling… look, I have tremendous regard for Donna Brazile. She’s a good person and a nice person and I like her a lot but whatever took place here… and I know I had nothing to do with it… and I know CNN, we were so closely guarding our documents… they weren’t emailed around.
    My understanding is the email to Donna came from either Roland Martin or someone around Roland Martin.”
    http://ijr.com/2016/10/715169-horrified-jake-tapper-responds-to-wikileaks-emails-that-expose-donna-brazile-as-clinton-mole/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=ods&utm_term=ijpolitics&utm_content=media

    The media simply cannot be trusted anymore thanks to dems….

  • John Bernard Books

    How dangerous is Hillary?
    “We’ve got to go after this,” Clinton continued. “And here again, the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get.””
    She is saying that the right to bear arms isn’t settled law and she will undo the 2nd amendment.
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/leaked-audio-clinton-says-supreme-court-is-wrong-on-second-amendment/
    Very telling….”The Clinton fundraiser was hosted at the Greenwich Village home of John Zaccaro, a convicted felon.”

    It is time we quit letting Hillary and the media make this election about smears.
    Time to look at the issues….and if her radical stance of the 2nd amendment doesn’t scare you nothing will.

  • John Bernard Books

    A little “horse trading” going on during the FBI’s investigation of Hillary’s emails……
    “”This is a flashing red light of potential criminality,” Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah, who has been briefed on the FBI interviews, told Fox News.
    He said “there was an alleged quid pro quo” involving Undersecretary for Management Patrick Kennedy and the FBI “over at least one classified email.”
    “In return for altering the classification, the possibility of additional slots for the FBI at missions overseas was discussed,” Chaffetz said.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/16/new-fbi-files-contain-allegations-quid-pro-quo-in-clintons-emails.html

    still think Comey is a republican? He and Loretta are as crooked as Crooked Hillary…..

  • BCinBCS

    The latest NBC-Wall Street Journal poll has it C+11.

    Both the Omaha Register, which has not endorsed a Democrat since FDR in 1932, and the Des Moines Register have endorsed Hillary Clinton. I particularly like what the Register wrote:

    The case for a Clinton presidency could easily be made even if the GOP nominee wasn’t Donald Trump, a man who has never held public office, never worked in the public sector, has no experience in foreign relations, and has relatively few political allies even within his own party.

    Trump could try to compensate for those deficiencies by surrounding himself with experts and assembling a cabinet modeled after Lincoln’s “team of rivals” — highly qualified individuals who disagree on matters of policy. But Trump’s defining characteristic is his distaste for dissent. It’s inconceivable that a Trump cabinet would be anything more than a coterie of like-minded hand puppets. Faced with protesters at rallies, he encourages his supporters to respond with violence, and he professes to know more about defeating ISIS than our top generals — an audacious claim for a real estate developer who might soon control our nuclear arsenal and have the power to send our sons and daughters into war.

    • John Johnson

      Brexit.

      • WUSRPH

        Scotexit and the lowest value for the pound in over 30 years.

        • John Johnson

          There you go again. You just can’t stop yourself can you? You know my Brexit point has nothing to do with U.K. repercussions; it has everything to do with goofy polling crap. If you don’t pick up your phone and answer anonymous calls anymore like most, you get a goofy cross section from those that do…and I find those people a bit odd. Up until the close of British polls they were still predicting a Brexit defeat. You continue to obfuscate by adding some off the wall attempt at expanding the conversation.

          • WUSRPH

            It isn’t like you are the only person in the world who knows that you can no longer rely on the old samples or formulas. As noted before, the pollsters are aware of the problem you cited. Most have adjusted their samplings and their weights to reflect the change. You are also not the only one who understands that the only poll that really counts is the voting on election day. But when virtually all the polls—-good samples and bad—tell you that on such-and-such dates the numbers were such-and such, you tend to take notice. I recognize that all you have to hope for is hope…..but that just isn’t going to be enough.

          • John Johnson

            Oh, quit it. ALL the British polls said Brexit was toast. The people woke up to find it had all been bullshit. You think U.S. pollsters are that much sharper than the ones on Great Britain? I am not predicting anything. Just saying it could happen. There is that recent “history” you like to fall back on so often.

          • WUSRPH

            http://tinyurl.com/ztq3btf

            I also wonder where you get the idea that all the pre-Brexit polls showed that the outcome would be to remain in the EC. If you check the link above, you will find that on June 23d—the DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION—The Economist’s tracking of the various polls had the outcome as being:

            44% Leave 44% Remain and 9% Undecided

            Hardly a projection for a big win by Remain.

            It is true the Economist and most pollsters suggested was that a larger turnout would include more young people and they would carry the day for Remain. In fact, the Economist specifically said that the outcome would probably be determined by the turnout…..but a win by the Leave was demonstrated to be more than possible by the polls. Most important in the outcome, according to virtually all the sources, was that the younger vote did not turn out as hoped.

            I can only presume that this is another example of you wanting to believe what you believe despite the evidence.

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          • WUSRPH

            You said “ALL” and The Economist, the day before the election, said that was not true as based on its analysis of ALL the polls the two sides were tied. The stories you cite are ALL AFTER THE RESULTS but still they almost all say that before the vote the results were considered to be close—many of which would have been within the margin of error—with a slight lead by Remain. In any case, I will rely on The Economist anytime.

          • John Johnson

            Yeah, I didn’t catch that one, but the fact remains that the majority of major pollsters got it wrong. This said, tell me which one here in the U.S. you are holding dear. We’ll see how close they came the day after.

          • WUSRPH

            I try not to rely on any ONE pollster…..IF I did I might give a little more weight to 538 solely on his prior results. I think a weighted approach—which 538 uses as does HuffPost—is likely to give one a better picture both of the situation during the time period during which the poll was conducted AND an overall trend. (The Economist’s figures for Brexit were based on just that kind of an analysis of a number of polls.)

            Although some of what you say reflects little knowledge of the way polls are conducted, etc., it is true that we are in a period of change in the way the samples are chosen. Most of the polls have adjusted for that….but how good that adjustment has been will not be determined until election day itself. (I believe, for example, that Huff-Post no longer includes within its averaging polls conducted solely on land lines.)

            What counts is not whether the polls get it exactly right —which none will–but whether their trends and margins of error prove to be close to the outcome. To date that shows us a Clinton win both nationally and in enough states to win the electoral college.

            Of special interest in the last few polls (as reported by the Washington Post) is that Trump may have topped out—i.e.–got all the voters he is going to get.

          • Jed

            is THIS why he keeps saying “brexit”?

            he really thinks trump is going to win.

            holy cow.

            ps – i’d like to take this chance to pat myself on the back.

            a YEAR ago, i called the over/under in the electoral college at 191 for trump. as of last night, that was *exactly* what 538 was projecting. in their case, they’ve projected every other possible number at some point, so i don’t put any more stock in this projection than any other.

            in my case, however, i’ve only picked the one, and it’s looking pretty good!

          • WUSRPH

            I do not think he REALLY believes that Trump is going to win BUT he has to have something to cling to feed his hope. He trusts nothing unless he sees it for himself, so he clearly would never believe any poll that disagrees with his desired outcome. This means he will grab any straw blowing pass him in the wind—ala the Brexit outcome—as “proof” that others are wrong.

  • BCinBCS

    BB has the following post on hold because it included the word for that German political party that started WW II (N@zi). I have re-posted it without the offending word:

    Saturday night in Hillsborough, North Carolina a GOP office was firebombed and spay painted with “N@zi Republicans get out of town or else”.

    Trump tweeted: “Animals representing Hillary Clinton and Dems in North Carolina just firebombed our office in Orange County because we are winning @NCGOP”.

    Hillary tweeted: “The attack on the Orange County HQ @NCGOP office is horrific and unacceptable. Very grateful that everyone is safe”.

    Since then, Democrats have raised more than $13,000 to reopen the destroyed office.

  • John Bernard Books

    Are all dems crooked….
    “Indeed, imagine what would have happened had Clinton been indicted. The White House would have attempted to maintain the secrecy of the Obama-Clinton e-mails (under Obama’s invocation of a bogus “presidential communications” privilege), but Clinton’s defense lawyers would have demanded the disclosure of the e-mails in order to show that Obama had engaged in the same misconduct, yet only she, not he, was being prosecuted. And as most experienced criminal-law lawyers understand (especially if they’ve read a little Supreme Court case known as United States v. Nixon), it is an argument that Clinton’s lawyers would have won.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440380/obama-email-alias-clinton-why-fbi-didnt-prosecute-hillary?utm_source=nr&utm_medium=facebook&utm_content=mccarthy?utm_campaign%3Dobama-email

    It seems the prez was involved……..this is the same guy who said he wasn’t aware of the Hillary emails. He was emailing her…..why does anyone vote dem?

  • John Bernard Books

    How easy is it to fool a dem voter……
    “Kerry said, “I will share with you a very personal experience: When I ran for President of the United States, in 2004, against George Bush, in the end, on Election Day, we had problems in the state of Ohio on how the votes were taking place. I even went to court in America to keep polling places open to make sure my people could vote. I knew that even in my country, the United States, where we had hundreds of years of practicing democracy, we still had problems carrying out that election. The next afternoon, I had a meeting with my people, and I told them that I did not think it appropriate of me to take the country through three or four months of not knowing who the President was. So that afternoon in Boston I conceded to the President and talked about the need to bring the country together. . . . One of the main lessons from this is there is a future. There is a tomorrow.””

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/15/john-kerry-thinks-bush-rigged-the-2004-election/#ixzz4NLt3C9T4

    Dems know they cheat lie and steal so whenever they lose they always accuse republicans or doing what they do. Who doesn’t remember the media and their “exit polls” declaring Kerry the winner between 3 and 5 pm in 2004. Their purpose was to dissuade turnout. Yep yanno the ones who always tout turnout.
    Yep Kerry declare the fix was in in 2004 and still believes it.

    Why are dem voters always so gullible?

    • BCinBCS

      Exactly how do you get your conclusion from the Kerry quote that you listed?

      The Ohio debacle was a straight-up case of Republican voter suppression. The reason that Kerry was asking the courts to keep polling places open was because early voting was reduced and the number of polling sites in predominantly Democratic areas were reduced. Both of these factors resulted in up to four hour waits to vote and many people who wanted to vote being unable to.

      • Jed

        anyone who wants to argue that the idea of stealing an election is absurd suffers from both a failure to understand the electoral college (in some elections you don’t need to steal all the states, just one) and a failure to observe the object lessons in 2004 and 2000.

        both those elections were outright stolen in one state. not by voter impersonation but by voter suppression (and vote counter suppression).

  • John Bernard Books

    Another victim of the clintons…
    “Now, we’re learning through a recently released WIKILEAKS email that Bill Clinton’s 3rd cousin accused him of sexually abusing her when she was babysitting for a then “baby Chelsea.””
    http://truthfeed.com/wikileaks-release-bill-clintons-3rd-cousin-claims-she-was-assaulted-by-bill-while-babysitting-chelsea/29120/

    Hillary says if it was a cousin it doesn’t count, its the Arkansas way…..

  • donuthin2

    Off topic question, at least if there is still a topic. We’ve heard a lot about Kap kneeling during the Nation Anthem to protest “something”. Most have been very critical of him for being unpatriotic. I haven’t followed enough to full understand what he is protesting. While I agree that it is his prerogative an right, I don’t especially like it. However Rick Perry and others have suggested Texas secede from the U. S. Somehow that seems a lot more unpatriotic that kneeling. Thoughts?

    • BCinBCS

      IOKIYAR

      • SpiritofPearl

        Perry and Colin aren’t comparable. Colin could lose his job by taking what he considers a moral stance. Perry is a pol whose posture is strictly CYA.

        • donuthin2

          My point is about those out there who are very critical of a football player for taking what he considered to be a moral stance and Perry who staked out a position, for whatever reason, that seems a lot less patriotic. But who says we have to be consistent in our thinking.

          • SpiritofPearl

            We agree.

            “Consistency is the refuge of the unimaginative.”

            — Oscar Wilde

          • donuthin2

            lol, gotcha. Anyway, it was just a passing thought.

          • WUSRPH

            A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds,
            adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
            ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

      • Jed

        the difference between kaepernick and perry isn’t just party ID.

        kaepernick is another uppity n****r who should be grateful for his high-paying football gig, while perry is a humble white farmer who has spent his life serving the constitution.

        or so you might think if you were a racist. er, republican.

  • John Bernard Books

    Trump hitting on another woman…..my my
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

  • John Bernard Books

    Can Hillary steal this election? Dems say voter fraud simply doesn’t exist…
    “Many on the left, however, are unconcerned with the protection of each individual’s vote. They quickly dismiss voter fraud as a myth meant to justify voter suppression. Perhaps progressives are so quick to kill the debate because they know that the facts are not on their side.
    Indeed, voter fraud is a very real and ongoing threat to the integrity of the political process, and The Heritage Foundation’s “Does Your Vote Count” project tracks this “nonexistent” problem. Today, we are adding 16 new confirmed convictions for voter fraud to our voter fraud database. That brings the count to over 430 criminal convictions for election fraud.
    http://dailysignal.com/2016/10/17/here-are-3-new-cases-of-voter-fraud-governments-must-ensure-vote-integrity-as-election-day-looms/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thf-fb

    Hundreds and hundreds of convictions for voter fraud…..not cases but convictions.
    I’m betting she will try….

    • BCinBCS

      There you go again child, licking the icing on the large slice of the controversy cake. Unlike you, I took the time to read the source that you listed and discovered that it’s story came from a database compiled by the Heritage Foundation. Going to the Heritage Foundations site, I went through 219 pages of election fraud and counted the number under each category and here’s what I found:

      2 cases of altering vote counts
      18 miscellaneous cases
      19 cases of petition fraud
      36 cases of duplicate voting (voting in two states)
      40 cases of buying votes
      72 cases of absentee ballot fraud
      117 cases of false registration
      126 cases of ineligible voting
      and
      6 cases of voter impersonation fraud.

      So, JBB using your own sources, out of 430 criminal convictions for voter fraud only six were for impersonation fraud, the kind of fraud that voter I.D laws are designed to stop. None of the other 424 fraud cases in the database are affected by those laws. On the other hand, those same I.D. laws are responsible for massive voter suppression (their actual purpose).

      Lick, lick, lick.

      • John Bernard Books

        Gee you’re dense….who’s talking about impersonation fraud?
        Its voter fraud and its rampant.

        • BCinBCS

          “…who’s talking about impersonation fraud?”

          You RWNJ’s are every time that you pass voter I.D. legislation.
          Oh, and it’s not rampant. Check the facts.

  • John Bernard Books

    Trump Rosa Parks and Mohammed Ali receive award….
    “No one accused Donald Trump of being a racist until he decided to run for president and became a threat to Hillary Clinton’s return to power.
    In 1986, Trump joined several other prominent Americans, such as Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali, as recipients of an “Ellis Island Award.”
    One suspects if Trump was a racist, there’s no way he would have posed for a photo with those two.”
    http://www.snopes.com/trump-received-ellis-island-award-in-1986/

    Trump is a great American. His only misdeed is challenging dems and their agenda.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a11a124ac7a77656bff8cb544131e2d834685eef41fd4edc66ac4ed405bba0ee.jpg

    • BCinBCS

      Oh, well, with that impeccable logic I’m sure that Trump isn’t a racist after all; I just don’t see that getting an award and getting his face in the papers would be more important to him than shunning two black celebrities.

  • John Bernard Books

    Wait you mean she lied?
    “So, when Hillary pledged extra disclosure and transparency to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee — then chaired by John Kerry — the Obama White House, and government ethics officials, it now appears she just lied to them all, says Schweizer.”
    and it is illegal…..and Obama is planning to do the same thing.
    “He notes that Obama appears already poised to repeat the pattern with his own foundation, with the help of Marty Nesbitt, a Chicago businessman.
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/15/hillarys-emails-allowed-clinton-foundation-donors-to-get-favors-on-a-global-scale-video/#ixzz4NMoZJ9Rm

    proving you can fool the dem voters all the time……

    • BCinBCS

      Good for President Obama. If his foundation can raise as much money as the Clinton Foundation and spend as much on good works as the Clinton Foundation (87% of all funds) and get as good of a rating on Charity Navigator as the Clinton Foundation (4 out of 4), then more power to him.

  • John Bernard Books

    What is Hillary’s positions on issues?
    “Even her advisers sometimes struggled with the question of what, exactly, their candidate believes, multiple email exchanges show.
    In a February email, the campaign’s polling expert, Joel Benenson, noted the “simplicity and focus” of Mr. Sanders’s message and suggested that Mrs. Clinton needed to convey something more uplifting and understandable.
    “Do we have any sense from her what she believes or wants her core message to be?” Mr. Benenson wrote. Mr. Benenson didn’t respond to a request for comment.
    In his critique of a proposed messaging strategy, Mr. Benenson added: “It is still not clear what her singular message is.””
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/missing-from-hacked-emails-clinton-herself-1476662725?mod=e2fb

    What would you like for her position to be? Why would anyone vote for her…..

    • BCinBCS

      You have the reading comprehension of a second grader.

      • Shelly H.

        Please don’t insult second graders.

        • BCinBCS

          🙂

  • John Bernard Books

    Why are dems such haters….
    “The liberal bias in press coverage of the presidential campaign has escalated dramatically in the last month before Election Day and on Wednesday’s Morning Joe, even MSNBC host Joe Scarborough had enough, calling out liberal co-host Mika Brzezinski and commentators on the morning show: “…the media can’t see past their sheer hatred of him, their uncontrollable sheer hatred of Donald Trump.””
    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristian-kafozoff/2016/10/15/morning-joe-tells-ttruth-media-cant-see-past-uncontrollable

    My friends on the left are emotionally handicapped so they lash out at high achievers, producers and successful.

    • BCinBCS

      No, JBB, you’re wrong. Trump is still getting the about five to one press coverage that he has gotten since he first began running. The only difference is that, whereas his bad actions were overlooked in the beginning, they are now causing him trouble.

      Now that his actions have become unacceptable to the electorate, he wants to blame the messenger rather than his message.

  • WUSRPH

    http://tinyurl.com/hug8o3p

    Remember how a bunch of Republican leaders got together on the night of President Obama’s first inaugural to make a pledge not to cooperate with him in any way—-insuring 8 years of many of the country’s problems going unresolved? Well, they are not even waiting for the election this time. Another reason to vote for any and every Democrat on the ballot.

    • José

      It’s sad, truly sad. As much as I would love to see a rational Republican Party, I cannot convince myself to cast a vote for any Republican for Congress because, no matter how moderate they may be, they are going to support Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell for leadership. As long as Republicans allow Tea Party extremists to hold the nation hostage they deserve to be defeated.

      • John Johnson

        Good point. Everyone up in DC has a ring in their noses and is yanked regularly by money in the direction the Big’s want them to go. You can find this on both sides of the isle.

    • Bandara Carlos

      https://charlierose.com/videos/29389

      Glenn Beck OUTS THE ALT-RIGHT and
      Trump!

  • Shelly H.

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

    This was not just an interesting article but IMO it really gets to the heart of WHY many people support Trump. It explains it quite well what I and many others on here have tried to say. We understand *why* people support Trump, my problem is *HOW* they can continue to support Trump after all the revelations, all the horrid things he has said and done.

    • SpiritofPearl

      Good article that points out the difference between urban and rural voters . . .

      Pearl would also add that much of it — at least 50% — is genetic.

      • WUSRPH

        I wish Pearl would lay off the genetics for awhile. Claims of a biological difference between different “races” have been used throughout history to justify some horrible things. I would hate to see someone examining our genetic tables to determine who is good, bad or, for example, a pre-ordained member of the “criminal class”. This is a very dangerous area.

        • SpiritofPearl

          False assumption . . .

          • WUSRPH

            Explain your statement, please.

          • BCinBCS

            WUSRPH, I’m going to have to come to Pearl’s defense. Neuroscientists are coming to realize that the brains of conservatives and liberals are different from each other. Those differences are assumed to be genetic.

            In the paper “Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults, Ryota Kanai, PhD, Tom Feilden, Colin Firth, and Geraint Rees demonstrated using functional MRI’s that conservatives have larger masses of gray matter (neurons) in their right amygdala which processes fear and uncertainty while liberals have more neurons in their anterior cingulate cortex which processes tolerance of uncertainty and conflict. ( http://2012election.procon.org/sourcefiles/Kanai_Political_Orientations.pdf ) As a matter of fact, one study had a 90% accuracy rate predicting conservatives and liberals from their brain scans.

            Without a doubt, it is also now well accepted that there are many psychological differences between liberal and conservative brains (which may or may not be geneticly based). For a list of many of these differences along with links to their parent study see: http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818 . For an easy to read and fairly short article on this phenomena that I highly recommend go to http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/biology-ideology-john-hibbing-negativity-bias .

            If anyone is interested in more information or more in-depth research, post a reply and I will supply additional links.

          • donuthin2

            Interesting for sure. I am sure as the science gets better, we will see more and more genetic influences on both physical and mental behavior. The science will need to be thoroughly vetted, but in the end it will be whatever it is.

          • SpiritofPearl

            One consideration is that these traits are now becoming more defined within a population – conservatives marry conservatives and have offspring, liberals marry liberals and have children, so we will eventually have two subpopulations.

            Outbreeding results in “hybrid vigor” which keeps populations healthy and strong. Inbreeding diminishes the strength of a population.

          • WUSRPH

            “Two subpopulations”—-does anyone remember the Star Trek episode “Let this be our last battlefield” from 1969?

          • SpiritofPearl

            No. I only remember “The Trouble with Tribbles.”

          • BCinBCS

            Yep, that half black/half white alien story in indelibly in my mind.

          • BCinBCS

            Even though I have defended the genetic component of the conservative and liberal brain, I want to emphasize that there is a sizable environmental factor, as well. This is especially prevalent among conservatives who remain cloistered in conservative environments. It has been shown that conservatives in their early twenties that leave a conservative home can become liberal but if they remain, they usually do not change.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Bravo!

          • Shelly H.

            Yes it is fascinating research but remember none of these findings are absolute and should not be applied to an individual – they are trends among groups as the scientists are learning how much or how little genetics influence personality.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Mr. W, Pearl has posted several articles here in the last couple of years about this phenomenon. If you wish I will do so again so we are on the same page.

            When I was studying genetics as an undergraduate in the 1970s, the genetics surrounding the inheritance of personality traits was still being investigated. It was a debate over “nature vs. nurture” as well as aspects of sociobiology that was discussed among geneticists.

            Now more research has been done, but with the caveat that social science is much more difficult to do with the accuracy than lab science because of the abundance of variables that must be addressed in the research design.

            There are numerous “personality” tests used by employers and educational institutions to assess personality traits. The Meyers-Briggs is famous as well as the Minnesota Multiphasic Inventory.

          • Shelly H.

            While some areas sill take sides on nature vs nurture many are viewing it as a more symbiotic relationship where nature or nurture can influence the other.

          • SpiritofPearl

            DNA is absolute.

          • SpiritofPearl

            And Mr. W, you can’t “ignore” genetics. It’s operating all the time to influence our behavior.

          • Shelly H.

            Yes, genetics do influence behavior, but that influence is not absolute and in many cases it is minimal to nonexistent.

          • SpiritofPearl

            You’re right in that genetics is not absolute. There is much to be learned and we are only in the infancy of the research.

      • John Johnson

        One of the most absurd things I’ve ever read from you. Is it kinda like, all Negros can’t swim?

    • John Johnson

      I might ask you the same thing about Hillary.

      • Shelly H.

        Why or How?

        In a nutshell to answer both, I’ve done my research and roughly 90% of what is claimed as fact about Hillary, that she is crooked, a pathological liar, facilitated murder, etc. is based on half-truths, statements taken out of context, or outright falsehoods. Her record as a senator and as Secretary of State is for the most part good to exceptional and the vast majority who know and have worked with her have nothing but praise for her leadership skills both democrats and republicans.

        While I do not agree with all of her domestic policies, for instance her tax plan is less than stellar however it is 1000X better than the non plan Trump has put forth, I believe that foreign policy is more important when it comes to presidency than domestic policy. I have always believed this, the Constitution defines the duties of the president as being focused on foreign over domestic policy.

        So based on my research, my understanding of the duties of the President as defined in the constitution, and the character of both candidates based on the factual record I am supporting and will vote for Hillary.

  • John Bernard Books

    Remember Web Hubble and the McDougals going to jail for the Clintons and most of them ended dying in prison….welp here we go again and Hillary’s not even elected….
    “Trey Gowdy has had it with Comey’s bull crap and he’s letting him know all about it. Gowdy is reopening Hillary’s case concerning her email scandal. When Comey asked for immunity last week, Gowdy smacked him with a “Hell No!!” response.”
    http://noscomunicamos.com/index.php/2016/10/02/hillarys-case-is-reopened-now-fbis-comey-asks-for-immunity-gowdy-says-hell-no-video/

    The clintons corrupt everything they touch…..did he think he could lie to Congress and just walk away?

    • BCinBCS

      …and did we think that the never-ending right wing conspiracy against the Clintons would ever stop?

      (It would be nice to see a conviction after 30 years of wasting money on constant investigations.)

  • John Bernard Books

    Billy Graham puts it into perspective…
    ““My prayer is that Christians will not be deceived by the liberal media about what is at stake for future generations,” Graham added.
    The left don’t understand this, because they are mostly secular humanists. They are unable to appreciate such a powerful virtue as forgiveness, because they don’t believe in a God who can forgive our every trespass.
    They are under the delusion that you must be perfect or else. Either you live up to their warped standards or they’ll throw you under the bus. That’s what happened to Alec Baldwin a few years ago, when TMZ accused him of a homophobic remark. All his liberal buddies were quick to disown him, despite any real evidence.
    The left will never be able to understand, because they refuse to. They simply have their own agenda to protect, at all costs, and cannot conceive the ability to grow or change.
    That is why they will lose.”
    http://patriotjournal.com/billy-graham-issues-stunning-statement-on-donald-trump/

    The media will try to steal this election for Hillary, do not be deceived by their evil intentions….

    • Gunslinger

      Billy Graham is almost as bad a Christian as you are, Charlee.

  • John Bernard Books

    One thing you’ll never see written about here is the rampant voter fraud in Texas…..
    ““What I find is that leaders of the other party are against efforts to crack down on voter fraud,” Abbott said. “The fact is that voter fraud is rampant. In Texas, unlike some other states and unlike some other leaders, we are committed to cracking down on voter fraud.””
    https://www.texastribune.org/2016/03/15/analysis-scant-evidence-abbott-rampant-voter-fraud/

    Gen Paxton is on it uncovering voter fraud in Texas…..will Hillary steal this election?

    • BCinBCS

      JBB, unfortunately for you, Abbot and Paxton, you proved that the three of you are full of hyperbole and hot air. Yesterday you posted an article about voter fraud convictions that enabled me to, once again, demonstrate that voter I.D. laws would not stop the overwhelming majority of fraud.

      Using that same database of total fraud convictions assembled by the Heritage Foundation I counted only 12 convictions out of the 430 nationwide that have occurred in Texas. That’s 2.75%, hardly “rampant” voter fraud.

      Lie, lie, lie JBB.
      Lick, lick, lick.

      • John Johnson

        Are you keeping up with the voter fraud investigation here in Tarrant County? Seems to be both smoke and fire.

        • WUSRPH

          Seen a little about it….Seems to be a “harvesting” case…..involving mail-in ballots. NOT anything covered by voter ID or any of the other suppression techniques the GOP has pushed thru the Leg. in recent years. It is one of the oldest problems…which the GOP is not interested in fixing because many of the voters using those ballots are older folks who generally vote for the Republican. They would rather have a little fraud in mail-ins than face up to the problem.

        • BCinBCS

          JJ, I am against voter fraud of any kind but I oppose using in-person voter fraud as an excuse for voter suppression laws. I’m sure that a majority of voter fraud could be eliminated if Republicans and Democrats worked in a bi-partisan manner to pass legislation acceptable to both parties.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Those who believe that in-person voter fraud is a legitimate problem have been deceived. They are also too lazy to do their homework.

            Most voter fraud occurs with mail-in ballots for which photo IDs are NOT requires. Republicans LOVE those old white folks in nursing homes who vote for them.

        • John Bernard Books

          Dems keep trying to spin this as voter suppression. One party favors honest elections and one party is anti-voter ID. Voter fraud is rampant, whether its mail in ballots, vote harvesting, paying people to vote, busing to polls.

  • WUSRPH

    LOCAL CONTROL….What is that?

    During the last
    regular session Gov. Abbott talked about “Californization”—-by which he meant
    different cities and local governments having different policies on the same
    subject—which, at least in some cases, Abbott said was BAD. He pledged to
    fight it and to see laws passed that established statewide standards….Just
    which kinds of things Abbott found so objectionable was not that clear beyond
    the fact that he (and unfortunately a majority of the Legislators) agreed that
    NO LOCAL GOVERNMENT should stand in the way of a fracking oil well no matter how
    much its citizens opposed them. However, several measures to de-Californize
    stands taken by local cities are expected to be introduced this January. A bill
    (or bills) to, in effect, exempt Uber and other substitutes for cabs from the
    evil crutches of places like the Peoples Republic of Austin is sure to be front
    and center in this effort. I mean how dare the City Council–backed by 60% of
    the voters in an election–try to regulate Uber by requiring that its drivers be
    fingered printed among other safety precautions. Another such measure should be
    a rerun from last time to outlaw the ban on plastic bags adopted by Austin and
    several other cities such as Brownsville..

    It is kind of funny
    to some that Abbott who screams so loudly about “state rights” when the federal
    government tries to make Texas do something is so eager to restrict “local
    rights”….but, I guess that all depends on, as they used, to say: whose ox is
    being gored.

    Of particular notice
    in this “de-Californization” drive is the role being played by Texas Attorney
    General Ken (“I’m innocent”) Paxton. Paxton not only opposes these kinds of
    local initiatives but has gone beyond opposing them at the State level to
    actively intervening in lawsuits challenging them at the local level. So far he
    has filed actions challenging Brownsville’s plastic bag ban and an Austin
    ordinance regulating so-called “short term rentals”. He has also filed several
    legal challenges to the decision by some local governments to limit the carrying
    of handguns in their facilities. It is not unusual for an attorney general to
    be asked to issue an attorney general’s opinion on local initiatives like
    this—as he did when Denton passed a ban on fracking wells—but, in my
    experience, it is rare or unknown for an attorney general to actively seek out
    opportunities to attack the decisions made by local officials. But Paxton seems
    intent on turning his office into the center of this fight against local control
    of local affairs (at least when the impact is on important people and
    companies.)

    Today
    Paxton took his war against the freedom of local governments to decide things
    for themselves another step. This time he intervened in a law suit challenging
    the contract between the City of Austin and its firefighters. What next? Will
    he take it upon himself to adopt some sort of the old Catholic “imprimatur”
    system under which his office will have to approve anything a local government
    does? Ken “The ENFORCER”..

  • WUSRPH

    Back before the dawn of history when I took a course in Aristotelian Logic (and got a A) I thought I understood how you constructed a logical proposition…..especially a very simple one along the lines of:

    Sparky is a cat
    All cats are orange in color
    Therefore, Sparky is orange in color.

    But I must have missed something because I just cannot understand the one Trump is trying to sell everyone….You know, the one that goes:

    I am Donald Trump
    I am a winner
    I am losing
    Therefore, I am being cheated.

    The best I can figure out is that he must have made a mistake in some earlier proposition—-probably the one in which he found himself to be a winner.

  • WUSRPH

    Speaking of the state budget—which, after all, was what this thread was supposed to be about—

    Has anyone heard anything about whether the Legislature plans to respond to those pieces of paper issued by the attorney general’s office last year under the guises of being an “attorney general’s opinion” that attempted to overturn years of practice and precedent to give the governor substantially more power when using his veto, particularly on the so-called “riders”? (If you cannot tell, I have real doubts about the merits of that opinion (sic).)

    I doubt most of the people involved in putting together a state budget were very happy about the ruling. This is probably particularly true in the House which opposed the governor all the way. What the Senate’s position is in less clear, however. Isuspect that those Senators who actually have to write the budget were, like the House members, not happy with the outcome…but their hands may be tied by the fact that Lt. Gov. Patrick, for reasons only he can imagine, supported the governor.

    Be that as it may, I cannot see the Legislature, particularly the House, just surrendering part of its powers to the governor. In my view, there are several things that can happen, including the weird possibility that the Senate version of the budget will leave the governor his new powers while the House tries to reverse the AG’s findings. This could set up a real battle in the conference committee over which role to take.

    The most obvious way to reverse the AG opinion would be to have the Legislative Budget Board (LBB), which puts the budget bill together, come up with some new way to draft riders that side-steps the governor’s new power by doing what they did in the past in some new way not covered by the AG opinion. Just how they would do this is beyond my capabilities, but I amconfident that the LBB staff is more than capable of rising to the challenge. The question is will they be allowed to?

    • Gunslinger

      I’m not so sure I have as much faith in the LBB abilities as you do.

      • WUSRPH

        I’ve seen them work miracles…..The way that “interim budget authority” has been expanded over the years into a totally new appropriations process is only one example of how, when things need to be done at the Capitol, somebody will find a way.

  • John Bernard Books

    As pearl liked to threaten, “I’m gonna ban you.”
    “Secretary of State John Kerry demanded the Ecuadorian Embassy in London cut off Julian Assange’s internet be cut off.”
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-john-kerry-obama-admin-demanded-julian-assanges-internet-cut-off/

    Dems are afraid of the truth and often feel threatened by the 1st amendment.

    • BCinBCS

      “And in further news…” a dog chased a cat in Norway. Collusion by American President Barack Obama is suspected.
      Film at 11.

      • John Bernard Books

        a pearl like response….

        • BCinBCS

          Nonetheless accurate.

  • John Bernard Books

    The tide changed against Ted Cruz during the primaries in Indiana. The numbers switched drastically with more than 600,000 voters changing from dem to republican choosing Trump over Cruz. Now this….
    “Though Lawson said thousands of tampered forms were discovered, neither office spokeswoman Valerie Warycha nor State Police would reveal precisely how many. Warycha said a number of registration forms each election are changed by voters themselves to provide updated information. In addition, government employees make a certain number of data entry errors. But she said the number of changed registrations this year was much higher than in past elections, which led officials to believe fraud was being committed.
    Lawson’s office said it and county election offices have been inundated with calls from voters whose information had been changed. However, it would not disclose how many complaints have been received.
    In Hamilton County, Republican elections administrator Kathy Richardson said she had not received any complaints and said she was miffed how Lawson concluded so quickly that the alleged anomalies might be fraud.”
    http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2016/10/18/state-alleges-more-voter-fraud-names-and-birth-dates-changed-on-forms/92365268/

    Another example of voter fraud? Of course its Indiana…..
    The state police made made raids on democrat groups in Indiana suspected of committing voter fraud.
    Voter fraud has become a thriving business for dems…
    “A voter fraud investigation in Indiana’s capital is growing larger, Sandra Smith reported on America’s Election HQ.
    Indiana State Police raided a voter registration agency in Indianapolis after they suspected that hundreds of records may contain false information.
    Police said records in a nine-county area in the Hoosier State may contain fake names, addresses and dates of birth.”
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/05/indianapolis-voter-fraud-registration-office-police-raid

    • BCinBCS

      Don’t you read your own posts?

      You post clearly states: “Republican elections administrator Kathy Richardson said she had not received any complaints and said she was miffed how Lawson concluded so quickly that the alleged anomalies might be fraud.”

      Sheesh!

      • John Bernard Books

        pay attn bozo….
        “Republican Secretary of State Connie Lawson said her office has found voter registration forms containing first names and birth dates different from what voters provided. She said she has handed those altered records over to the Indiana State Police for review.”

        • BCinBCS

          My good friend, you’re entitled to your opinion just not your own set of partial facts.

          You posted:
          Republican Secretary of State Connie Lawson said her office has found voter registration forms containing first names and birth dates different from what voters provided. She said she has handed those altered records over to the Indiana State Police for review.

          What you conveniently failed to post was the next sentence:
          However, a leading election official in Hamilton County, also a Republican, said labeling the discrepancies as fraud was a hasty conclusion.

  • John Bernard Books

    An Obama admin DOJ atty said….
    “Adams, who was the Voting Section Attorney at the US Department of Justice, filed six suits in the past year against Philadelphia and Broward County, Florida where the voter rolls are corrupted.
    J. Christian Adams: Dead people are voting and it’s something this administration does not want to do anything about. They must like it. They must like who they are voting for… Now we have four million, four million Steve, ineligible and dead voters on American voter rolls according to the Pew Charitable Trust.”
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/elections-expert-now-4-million-ineligible-dead-voters-american-voter-rolls-video/

    The dead voters are in dem strongholds…..I’m shocked……!

    • BCinBCS

      I’m getting tired of correcting nearly every one of your posts, so I’ll simply cut and past what Media Matters has to say about the man that you quoted:
      Fox News’ Steve Doocy hosted discredited right-wing fabulist and former Department of Justice attorney J. Christian Adams, who claimed that “we have four million … ineligible and dead voters on American voter rolls,” which will “affect the election.” Adams’ appearance on Fox comes as Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has pushed unsubstantiated claims of “large scale voter fraud.” In fact, one study found only 31 instances of potential voter fraud in 1 billion votes cast between 2000 and 2014, and, according to the Brennan Center for Justice, most cases of alleged voter fraud by dead people are not true. While “there are a handful of cases in which documentation shows that votes have been cast in the names of voters who have died before the vote was submitted” the more common answer is that there was a clerical error or people with the same name were mixed up. Adams also failed to acknowledge that, although voter rolls may include some dead people, that doesn’t mean votes are being cast in their names.

      Adams became a right-wing media favorite after he resigned from the Department of Justice upon its decision not to pursue voter-intimidation charges against members of the New Black Panther Party, claiming they were “hostil[e] … to bringing cases on behalf of white victims for the benefit of national racial minorities.” Adams frequently took to right-wing media, particularly Fox’s America Live with Megyn Kelly, to push the phony scandal that the Justice Department dismissed the charges out of a “fixation on racial grievance.” The Department of Justice’s ethics office found “no evidence” to support his claims, and he has been thoroughly discredited as a Republican activist.

      • SpiritofPearl

        Mr. B, you are casting pearls before swine.

  • WUSRPH

    http://tinyurl.com/zxo7o3f

     Donald Trump got some semi-good news late yesterday: Despite what many have said about him, he’s not a very good fascist. At least that was the finding by an expert on fascism in an article in the Washington Post that rated Trump against the 11 tests to measure fascist tendencies. Turns out that Trump qualified for only 26 of the 44 possible “Benitos” (points) that show the degree of fascism. What is most interesting is that one area in which he does poorly is violence. Seems that neither he or his supporters (despite the talk of hanging her, etc. and rouging up protestors) are violent enough to gain a high score in that category. He also totally strikes out in not having any fascination with youth or an attempt to build a youth movement…..

    P.S. You might remember that I did a post a while back in which I said that, while I did not think that Trump was a real fascist, that he definitely had some fascist tendencies. This measurement tends to support that finding.