The Conservative Case for Hillary Clinton

Six ways the Democratic nominee is better for Republicans than Donald Trump

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A few weeks ago, at the state Republican convention in Dallas, a conservative asked me in confidence whether I thought Donald Trump would really be a worse choice for president than Hillary Clinton.

The question is one that many Republicans are grappling with in the wake of Trump’s emergence as the presumptive Republican nominee and because Clinton is almost certain to be his Democratic opponent in the general election. And it’s a question that I had been somewhat ambivalent about taking seriously. Trump is so ignorant, vicious, and volatile that he would strike me as a worse choice for president than anyone the Democrats could have nominated this year. and I have no doubt that some of the Republican “leaders” who would dispute me on that point in public would privately agree.

In this case, however, the conservative asking the question happened to be one I respect, and I had no doubt that his question was serious, so I answered it seriously. And a couple of days later, when I interviewed Ted Cruz, I came to appreciate, a bit, why other serious conservatives might be struggling with the same question.

Last year, as we all know, Cruz was unusually enthusiastic about Trump adding his voice to the Republican primary; I woodshedded him for that back in August, and would still describe it as an error of judgment on his part. But my sense, during the interview in Dallas, was that Cruz himself had come to see Trump in a different light over the course of the primary—that in addition to having made a strategic miscalculation about Trump’s prospects in the primary, he had made some overly naive assumptions about Trump’s character and competence, only to have some very unpleasant realizations, on both fronts, by the time we met in Dallas, in May. That trajectory would actually make sense. I know, because while I was one of the exceptions, most Americans were glib about both Trump’s character and his chances last year. Cruz’s initial error of judgment was not unusual. What’s actually unusual about Cruz’s situation is that, because he was competing with Trump, and doing so effectively, he was confronted with the unpleasant reality earlier than most.

In retrospect, I suspect, Cruz will come to look like the canary in the coal mine. And I hope his fellow Republicans consider that possibility before it’s too late. In the meantime, here are six reasons why Clinton, from a conservative perspective, would be a better choice for president—or, at least, a less grim one—than Trump.

Clinton is more psychologically stable than Trump.

Any president can expect to confront crises and challenges; to be met with ferocious political opposition; and to face constant scrutiny and criticism. That being the case, psychological stability and resilience are pretty crucial qualities in a president. Though we can’t say how anyone would handle the pressures of a job they haven’t actually held, there is ample evidence that Clinton is unusually well equipped on this front. She’s been living her life in public for decades as part of a high profile and controversial political couple. In addition to having logged years of experience in serious jobs—as a United States senator, as Secretary of State—she has, as a result of her marriage, spent years as the First Lady of Arkansas, a state she isn’t from, and of the United States, a country where a woman in that role can expect to be judged not just on her professional accomplishments, but her hairstyle, and cookie recipes.

Clinton’s success in each of those roles is subject to debate, but even conservatives, I think, can agree with the following: we’ve all seen Clinton stumble. We’ve all seen her blanketed with hostile and, at times, deeply personal criticism. We’ve all seen her dust herself off and get back in the game. That bodes well for her ability to be put through the wringer as president.

I would agree that Clinton’s response to her critics has at times been overly defensive, even paranoid, as when, in 1998, she referred to the “vast right-wing conspiracy” working against her husband. But again, she’s faced an inordinate amount of criticism, from both the left and the right, for decades. And she’s shown herself to be far more capable of handling pressure than Trump, as she herself noted in a speech last week.

Clinton, unlike Trump, occasionally shows respect for other people, including the Americans she’s seeking to lead.

One thing I noticed, while covering the 2008 Democratic presidential primary, was that Clinton’s stump speeches, while not as inspirational as Barack Obama’s, often included a reference to the exact number of jobs that had been lost during George W. Bush’s presidency, specifically in the county she was in at the time. It was a small thing, but one that made an impression on me, because by referencing conditions on the ground she was showing that she had done her homework about the conditions the voters in the room might be dealing with. In other words, Clinton was treating the campaign like a job interview; by taking the trouble to inform herself about the details, she conveyed respect for the public’s intelligence, and their specific, localized concerns.

During the course of this year’s campaign, Clinton has come under fire from critics who see her as having began the Democratic primary with the attitude that she was entitled to it, and I can see where they’re coming from given that she had most of these superdelegates all sewn up before the voters even had a chance to weigh in. But over the course of her life, Clinton’s proven herself to be an hard-working candidate who respects the public’s intelligence rather than merely expecting its support.

Trump, meanwhile, lives in some toddler-type state of mind. Not only does he expect everyone to serve his ego, he lashes out at anyone who declines to do so. I realize “takes the trouble to Google a few facts” may not seem like a particularly high bar here. But it’s much more than Trump, who recently asked a coal executive what LNG is, has bothered to do.

Clinton isn’t a misogynist, racist, nativist, or any other kind of bigot.

The conservative who raised the question about Trump versus Clinton was one of a number of men at the convention who quietly mentioned that they had noticed, somewhere along the way, that Trump appears to have a problem with women. All of them, it turned out, had recently heard their wife, or a friend, or a colleague, say that she would under no circumstances vote for Trump. Several of them added that, further to their surprise, these Republican women of Texas had gone a step further, and said they were planning to vote for Clinton.

As a woman, the puzzlement among the menfolk was slightly comical, but mostly poignant. The men in question weren’t misogynists; misogynists don’t brood about their wives’ opinions. But they were, through no fault of their own, men. Their antennae hadn’t been calibrated by years of life as a woman. Similarly, they were white; they were Texans; none of them were Jewish, or Muslim, or members of any of the other groups Trump or his supporters have spent months maligning. Accordingly they hadn’t been primed to see, as easily as many of their fellow Americans, that Trump is a misogynist, a racist, a nativist, and a bigot; and even now they hadn’t quite grasped that the Republican nominee is, in fact, all of those things.

Holding the hand of grown adults as they come to learn unpleasant facts about our world isn’t actually my job. But I do hope that conservative readers who are still in denial about Trump’s character will believe me when I say that I really don’t cry wolf about such things, and I’m warning you right now that if you vote for Trump, you’ll be voting for a man who thinks women, including your mother, your wife, and any daughters you might have, are effectively objects for men to acquire, consume, and dispose. Actually, conservatives, let me put this to you even more bluntly: Is your daughter’s body attractive enough to elicit Donald Trump’s sexual arousal? If that question offends you, I’d recommend that you don’t vote for a candidate who would use that standard to determine her value as a human being.

And, conservatives, if you’re somehow okay with Trump’s slurs—or have even convinced yourself that they’re an auspicious measure of his willingness to stand up to “political correctness”—you should, of course, be aware that you’re associating yourself with everything that has emerged, and will, from this man’s psyche. Trump spent the past year baying like a wounded animal about all the people who threaten his fragile ego. The kind of divisiveness that Trump is engaging in has long been evident, and so has the racism, nativism and anti-Semitism his campaign has roused in the country. If you throw in with Trump, you now know—or should know—the ugliness you’re associating yourself with. It’s simply not credible, at this point, for Republicans who’ve declared their support for Trump to denounce anything he says as “unacceptable,” as Newt Gingrich did this weekend. Gingrich had already accepted Trump’s racism. Learn from his example.

Clinton is less risky than Trump.

A lot of Republican leaders have said that they are reluctantly compelled to support Trump, despite the various principled qualms they would like the public to give them credit for in the future, because he is the alternative to the Democratic nominee and the nation can’t afford four more years of Obama. I realize those leaders have incentives that make it tempting to cast a politically expedient decision as a principled one, but anyone who believes that Clinton represents an existential threat to the republic has succumbed to hysteria. In fact, we can be fairly confident that the nation can straggle through four more years of a Democratic presidency, because we’re currently in the eighth year of one. I continue to hate Obamacare, but I can see that the nation it’s been inflicted on still exists.

Meanwhile, Trump’s own supporters will be happy to tell you that they see his candidacy as an exciting chance to shake up the snow globe. There’s no reason for other conservatives to follow their lead.

The risks of a Clinton presidency are more or less known, and known to be tolerable. Yes, she’s a Democrat. Yes, she’d probably appoint Democrats to the Supreme Court. Republicans should have thought about that before settling on Trump as the man to oppose her in November. As it stands, conservatives can take comfort in the fact that Clinton, as a graduate of Yale Law, has at least heard of the Constitution, and that at the end of the day, her views are almost certainly more aligned with those of her life partner, Bill, than Obama’s. She’s a politician, so it’s hard to be sure, but it is demonstrably the case that in 2008 she made a very serious effort to thwart Obama’s efforts to become president in the first place, and almost succeeded.

It’s true that Clinton will likely pursue some policies as president that conservatives find suboptimal. But there’s also a chance that Trump would do the same—not to mention the possibility that he would undermine the rule of law and some fundamental institutions of American democracy, as some conservatives and libertarian legal scholars are now concerned about.

Clinton is more conservative than Trump on a number of key issues.

Clinton, as noted above, is to all accounts less leftist than many national Democrats. Many progressives who voted for Obama in 2008, or Sanders in 2016, would be happy to tell you that, at length. Beyond that, she’s arguably more conservative than Trump, whose political views are to all appearances derived from his personal interests and unruly feelings, and therefore don’t really map onto any kind of philosophical framework.

I’ll just give one example, because it’s a dispositively clear example. As a fiscally conservative Texan, I obviously care about a candidate’s views on trade. It is something I’m generally in favor of, and know to be a crucial pillar of the economy of the state in which I live. It used to be the case that most Republicans pretended to hold a similar view of the subject, and so it’s astounding to me that the Republican Party would nominate a candidate who is anti-trade. Trump has, in fact, specifically vowed to “beat Mexico at trade,” which would not only devastate Texas’s economy, it would create the kind of insecurity along our southern border that Dan Patrick has nightmares about.

Clinton, by contrast, is generally pro-trade. And conservatives are well within their rights to vote for the candidate whose beliefs are more closely aligned with their own. The Republican Party has abandoned conservative principles. That doesn’t mean conservative voters have to do the same.

Clinton is a Democrat.

If Clinton becomes president, Republicans will be members of the opposition, meaning they can oppose her agenda openly and even, despite this Trump disaster, with occasional credibility. If Trump becomes president, they’ll be the loyal members of a party led by a dangerously impulsive president. They’ll be chronically torn over whether they should summon the temerity to express their discomfort with whatever Trump decides to do in response to something mean he saw someone say about him on the internet, or to accept the reality that he is their leader, and they are tools he feels free to use to serve his ego. I know which lifestyle I’d prefer.

So there you go, conservatives. Six reasons. And though I could go on, I suspect any of you who’ve read this far could use a break. But that does bring up one more reason conservatives should hope Clinton beats Trump: if she does, that’ll likely be the end of Trump’s career in politics. And so I’d have no more reason to write about him, or the many Republicans humiliating themselves on his behalf, ever again.

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  • IndianaPearl

    ” . . . But they were, through no fault of their own, men.”

    Bravo, Ms. G! The good old white boys club just doesn’t get it.

  • Charlie Adaway

    Erica read Gary Byrne’s book then read Gary Aldrich’s book about Hillary and get back with me.
    Not only has been caught in some of the most blatant lies by any candidate ever she has issues and is unfit to serve as president. I’m not speaking from the view point of a man but rather as an informed voter.

    • IndianaPearl

      You have “issues” with reality.

      • Wilson James

        Indy, I think you are his only reason for being. The troll needs feeding.

        • Charlie Adaway

          the useless idiot cannot stop no impulse control.
          My comment is on topic concise and accurate.

          • txasslm

            >> the useless idiot cannot stop no impulse control.

            At least you know yourself.

          • Charlie Adaway

            goodness I heard that in the 3rd grade doncha got nothing newer…..

          • IndianaPearl

            Punctuation is your friend.

          • IndianaPearl

            You never finished third grade.

        • IndianaPearl

          Naw. He’s hijacked the blog. Thinks he’s a political savant. Ignoring him does nothing.

    • Groucho55

      All politicians bend the truth to some degree. Donald Drumpt wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him, literally! Thus I would rather soldier on with the known quantity of HRC for maybe 8 years than this dangerously unstable man who would gladly wreck the world as we know it.

      • Charlie Adaway

        That is certainly one way to look at life….

  • Wilson James

    And….she is experienced, thoughtful, knowledgeable and understands law and governing. Some concern over her truthfulness but we have not yet seen Trumps taxes and most of what he says is an outright lie. Not a big fan of Hillary, but I would vote for her with enthusiasm over this narcisstic blowhard.

    • IndianaPearl

      We haven’t seen Trump’s health report either, just a letter from his 95-year-old former pediatrician.

      Trump is a 70-year-old fat guy whose only exercise is riding around a golf course in an electric cart – a cardiovascular accident waiting to happen.

      • AmericanNana

        And, how good is Hillary’s health …and, how old is she? how heavy is she? and how do you know what exercise she gets? The woman is a known liar, has covered up too many things in her and Willy’s past and her time since. I think she belongs in jail as well as Obama. I definitely don’t think our country can stand another 4/8 yrs of “same as O has given us”… she will not bring a good change and I fear for our USA if she is elected. God Bless America!!!

        • BCinBCS

          AmericanNana wrote: ““I definitely don’t think our country can stand another 4/8 yrs of “same as O has given us”… she will not bring a good change and I fear for our USA if she is elected.

          Nana, your tribalism is profound. When President Bush and Cheny were in office your tribalism gave you great pride in the Republican party and great pride in America (despite the profound mistakes and policies that gravely harmed this country). Now that your tribe is out of power, your disappointment manifests itself not only with the Democratic party but with America, as well (“I definitely don’t think our country can stand another 4/8 yrs of “same as O has given us”… she will not bring a good change and I fear for our USA if she is elected.” Too bad your hatred is so strong that you cannot differentiate your feelings about the Democratic party from those about the USA.

          • AmericanNana

            First of all, I do NOT HATE democrats, republicans or anyone for that matter. I am 72 and have not seen the likes of our current president ever. I do know that President Bush loved/loves America – I don’t feel Obama does. I do think Hillary and Bernie love our country but I cannot get past the things Hillary has gotten away with and I do believe she is dishonest and evil….and people in her past that could hurt her seem to disappear. It’s just MHO but I fear for our country if she gets in WH again. Too many secrets, lies and destruction follow her. I don’t believe she is in the best of health either. God Bless America!!

          • Beatfien Beatfiend

            As a 72 year old that has been through more presidents, govenors, senators, Congresswomen and men thant I have, I would imagine that you would agree that if anyone could vote for George W Bush they can also vote for Hillary Clinton and Trump. If you didn’t fear GWB and if you don’t fear Trump it’s probably disingenous to suggest that you fear Hillary.

          • Retributer

            Sorry, but that’s just a dumb assumption!

          • justabil

            Where did the bad president touch you? Show us on the doll. Seriously, what are your exact grievances against Obama that you don’t want any more years of it? The country was on the brink of literal bankruptcy when he took office. It seems to be a little better now.

          • RoughRugger

            Her grievances are obviously that he’s a black Kenyan Muslim with a funny name.

          • Wilma Doll

            What a ridiculous assumption!

          • Retributer

            Why don’t you just drop the bumper sticker crap and try to come up with and intelligent defense of the worst (can’t say it) in the history of the United States? Actually, it’s because he’s a liar, a traitor, and no better than a street punk; propped up by those who want to destroy this country and the constitution! Muslim? Well, he sure as hell stands up for Muslims, and NOT for Christians!

          • BCinBCS

            Retributer, I was going to reply to the absurdity that you are posting but you’re not worth the effort.

          • Retributer

            Actually, it’s because you CAN NOT defend the “liar, traitor, street punk”!

          • wanagiakicita

            No, actually it’s because someone as racist/bigoted as you wouldn’t absorb the truth if it were poured down your throat, so why waste good energy on bad brainwashed fools!

          • Retributer

            Amazing, ignorant and SO out of touch! Go play with your pee-pee and don’t try to spread stupidity!

          • truffle19

            You ask for an intelligent defense, but your offense is nothing but name calling. Liar, traitor, street punk? What the hell does that even mean?

          • Retributer

            Liar
            If you like your plan you can keep it…..
            I never said if you like your plan, you can keep your plan…..
            Benghazi was caused by a youtube video…..
            Obamacare will reduce premiums…..
            You didn’t build that…..
            The private sector is doing fine…..
            I didn’t know the IRS was targeting conservative groups…..
            on and on!

          • wanagiakicita

            If you had any real knowledge you would KNOW that Benghazi was caused by TWO YEARS OF REPUBLICAN CUTS TO SECURITY SPENDING FOR ALL EMBASSIES….but you don’t deal in factual info, so how would you know anything?

          • Retributer

            You’re a month late dufus! Don’t bother me with your commie propaganda dumbass!

          • Retributer

            Traitor
            Our Military’s Strength Has Significantly Decreased…..
            Failure to protect our borders…..
            Failure to enforce our immigration laws…..
            Failure to defend and enforce the Constitution…..
            Release of Gitmo prisoners to return to the battlefields and kill Americans…..
            on and on!

          • smiavs

            Our military is still bigger and stronger than the next 26 countries COMBINED. And 25 of those countries are our ALLIES. What exactly are you so afraid of? If President Obama failed to protect American borders, so has every American president in history. Enforcing immigrations laws is not the President’s job. How stupid are you? President Obama is a Constitutional scholar, and everything he has said and done while in office HAS been constitutional, whether you like it or not. And other Constitutional scholars would agree with me on that point. I think I’ll accept their views over some moron on the internet who’s hiding behind a photo of a large man, when it’s clear from your palpable fear that your own physique is pretty far from your avatar.

          • Retributer

            Obozo is a Constitutional scholar?

            “some moron on the internet who’s hiding behind a photo of a large man, when it’s clear from your palpable fear that your own physique is pretty far from your avatar”
            I hope that makes you feel manly, Shirley!

            You can put your pee pee back in your pants now, and STFU!

            BTW, who the hell is the pompous skank that wrote this article?

          • smiavs

            I’m a woman, dumbass.

          • Retributer

            Haaah! Now, THAT’S funny! And I thought that you were just a GIRLY MAN!

          • wanagiakicita

            That IS funny, we were thinking the SAME about you! lol

          • truffle19

            Decreasing military strength to the point that we’re still far more powerful than the next country is traitorous? Oh brother. NOone has protected our borders. Guess we should just arrest every former president. Failure to defend and enforce the Constitution? Could you be any more vague? Seriously what is that list? Talking point from Guns and Ammo magazine?

          • Retributer

            “NOone has protected our borders”…..TRUE!
            But none so nefarious and calculated as Obozo!

          • Shelley Cummings-Giles

            I hear the words out of Dump’s mouth. Not a truth spoken. Not reality

          • Retributer

            Geez! You’re a month late. STFU!

          • Retributer

            Street Punk
            Before 2000, the “street punk” you never heard of was a rabble rousing, agitating, community organizing, demagoguing. prick!

          • truffle19

            Community organizing is a bad thing? HAHAHAHAHA. And I never said I didn’t hear about him. Your spins on logic are breathtaking.

          • wanagiakicita

            Ooooo, aren’t you the bad one?

          • waysey1

            If the words fit, why not use them?

          • Retributer

            Good grief, the ignorance!

          • truffle19

            It’s okay retributer. You can leave the compound now. It’s safe. I might suggest making your first stop the library, so you can read up on reality.

          • BCinBCS

            Truffle19: “…so you can read up on reality.

            Zing!!!

          • Wilson James

            You taking over for Charlie as the resident dumbass?

          • Retributer

            This thread is so overpopulated with resident, progressive dumbasses, that you should be thankful that somebody is willing to shed a little light on your ignorance!

          • Wilson James

            Thanks for confirming.

          • Dante Carlinos

            Lets give jusabil a few FACTS.

            Fact 1) Had the extensive job explosion that happened in Texas during the previous 10 years, there would have been NO job growth in the U.S. The responsible parties? Free Enterprise, Fracking, and the Intense and constant work of Republican Governor Rick Perry to build Business in Texas.

            Fact 2) The average cost of Heath Care to the Average Texas Individual has increased 42% Since the passing PPACA (Obamacare).

            Fact 3) The Average “Impoverished Texan” Ratio to the general population has raised 11 percent since Obama was elected.

            Fact 4) The Recurrence Tax Dollar Percentage, the amount Texas receives in Benefits to the amount we send to the federal government, has hit an all time low since the 81 year record has been kept. In the years of the Obama Administration it has gone from 61% to an all time low of 44%.

            You can not deny these facts. These are public records if you are willing to open your eyes and look for them. Fact.

            That is THE COMPLETE TRUTH.
            [email protected]

          • BCinBCS

            Dante wrote: “Had the extensive job explosion that happened in Texas during the previous 10 years, there would have been NO job growth in the U.S.

            So your “COMPLETE TRUTH” is that all or most of the approximately 13 million jobs created since the Bush recession were created in Texas? Do you know the population of Texas and therefore how absurd that statement is?

            The average cost of Heath Care to the Average Texas Individual has increased 42% Since the passing PPACA (Obamacare).

            Yea, and most of that due to the fact that Governor Rick Perry did not expand Medicaid and didn’t support Obamacare. Texas pays 5.5 billion dollars annually ($5,500,000,000) for medical care of the uninsured. (And, our Medicaid tax dollars are being distributed to the other states that did expand Medicaid.)

            The Average “Impoverished Texan” Ratio to the general population has raised 11 percent since Obama was elected.

            You think that that increase is because of Obama and not state policies? Has that rate increased in all of the blue states? The impoverishment rate has predominately increased in red states due to their low tax, high austerity economic plans.

            The Recurrence Tax Dollar Percentage, the amount Texas receives in Benefits to the amount we send to the federal government, has hit an all time low since the 81 year record has been kept. In the years of the Obama Administration it has gone from 61% to an all time low of 44%

            Texas sits in about the middle of the tax redistribution list at number 29. Do you know where most of Texas’ taxes go? Predominantly to other red states.

            Dante, most of what you complain about is due to the Republican policies of Texas and those of other Republican states. Blaming President Obama for those bad policies is the height of chutzpah. And that is the complete truth.

          • wanagiakicita

            Bingo! But Retributer doesn’t deal in facts, just hogwash and smears.

          • waysey1

            I think 19 and almost 20 trillion is in no way better than when Bush was in office. And remember that when Bush was in office, we were fighting a war and protecting this country from people who wanted to destroy us and still do and what has Obama done?

          • justabil

            Uh, actually captured Bin Laden, for one, if you’re into alleged-terrorist-kill-porn. Also, reduced the deficit that Bush built up almost to nothing. It is that deficit in the budget which added all those trillions to the public debt, including unaccounted-for debt from those wars you love, that, remember, Bush started. But who cares about facts when your team is losing?

          • BCinBCS

            Nana wrote: I do know that President Bush loved/loves America – I don’t feel Obama does.

            I’m sorry to have to put it this way but to believe that President Obama doesn’t love America is simply asinine.

            …and people in her [Hillary’s] past that could hurt her seem to disappear.

            Please list all/some of those people who have disappeared and your source for that information.

          • Vince Foster!

            Nana has listened to too much Rush, I’m afraid.

          • BCinBCS

            Yea, but Vince Foster didn’t disappear, he committed suicide (or was killed by Hillary if we are to believe the likes of Nana).

          • both!

          • BCinBCS

            After a day waiting for a reply to my request for specifics from Nana: crickets

          • wessexmom

            Nana is obviously a lifetime member of the Alex Jones fan club.

          • wanagiakicita

            She’ll have to check with Faux News first for her talking points.

          • You don’t feel Obama loves America? I’d examine the lens you’re filtering reality through.

          • Wilma Doll

            It is typical for liberals to attack you personally if you express your opinion and it disagrees with theirs. Hillary lied about the whole email debacle. When someone you know personally lies to you, do you ever believe what they say again? It is sad to see that America is a Divided States of America.

          • BCinBCS

            Wilma, we are not personally attacking Nana, we’re simply calling her out on the BS that she is promulgating. She claimed that President Obama doesn’t love America, an asinine statement and that Hillary Clinton is “disappearing” people to which I simply asked for names of those disappeared and where she gets that information. She hasn’t provided it yet.

            Facts can be cruel and when one goes around spouting nonsense, those facts can get in the way.

          • Wilma Doll

            Who is “we”? I never said you or anyone else attacked this woman personally. I just stated that it is (and it really is) typical for liberals to attack a person personally. I have experienced that too many times. It’s a distraction maneuver when they have no facts. You said her comment about Obama not loving America is an asinine statement. Where have you been? Obama bows to leaders of countries that are less than friendly to the US. His most recent? Apologizing for bombing Hiroshima and Nagasacki (sp?). As for disappearing “friends” of the Clintons, start with Whitewater and work your way up to present day. Can you do that? Can you do a little research on your own? Finally; facts and “spouting nonsense”. There are facts that are indisputable, such as death and taxes. As for facts you are referring to in this thread. Well, if you are conservative, you can find “facts” to support your views. If you are liberal, you can find opposing “facts” to support your views. The nonsense being spouted is done by those expressing their own opinion as fact. The trick is finding actual unbiased facts. Good luck with that.

          • BCinBCS

            Wow Wilma, where to begin.

            In a blog where AmericanNana posted some nonsense, I called her out on it. You then stepped in stating that it is typical for liberals to personally attack her if she expresses her opinion. It is more than logical that you were writing about Wessexmom, Xian BeatfienBeatfiend, justabil, RoughRugger and me. If you weren’t, then your statement about liberals came out of left field and should have been written as an independent post and not a reply to what the six of us were expressing. (Oh, and by the way, I’m liberal on social issues but, like Beerman and a couple of others who regularly post here, I am fiscally conservative.)

            Next you chastise us for not providing facts. Facts about what? We were replying to Nana’s claims about Obama not loving America and that Hillary Clinton was “disappearing” people. Both are absurd statements that are the responsibility of Nana to prove with facts.

            You stated that I did not address Hillary and her e-mail mess. The subject wasn’t about Hillary and her e-mail mess so it logically follows that it would not come up in the discussion (just as the fact that C.elegans, a microscopic worm used in scientific research also did not come up). And what does Bill Clinton’s failings have to do with Hillary Clinton? Hillary is running for office, not Bill.

            What countries have Obama been “bowing to?

            Obama very specifically did not apologize for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Where are you getting your information? (You should consider switching to a more accurate source.)

            Start at Whitewater and work my way up to discover the people that the Clinton’s disappeared? No! I’m not making the claim, you and Nana are. It is your responsibility to prove your wild accusations when called on them.

            Finally, I absolutely agree with your statement : “The nonsense being spouted is done by those expressing their own opinion as fact.“. And that is why I was calling out Nana and am now doing the same to you.

          • Wilma Doll

            So it turns out you are right and I am wrong about Obama apologizing for atomic bombs being used in WWII. I should have checked first. As for the rest of your tirade, I’m too tired to argue with you and yours. Give yourself a pat on the back and add a point. 1 – 0. I believe I don’t have to run any comment I might want to make by you for approval. Whether it is what you are talking about or not. I do agree with you that those who state opinion as fact should be able to provide backup for it. Including this “we” you have mentioned. You might need to “call out” some of them on their comments, since you seem to be the Keep Your Facts Straight police. Over and out.

          • BCinBCS

            Thank-you Wilma. It’s big of you to admit when you are wrong. That’s an uncommon thing. (Oh, and just so you know, if there was someone other than Trump or Clinton running, such as a liberal Republican or conservative Democrat, I wouldn’t be voting for Hillary.)

          • Jed

            “(Oh, and just so you know, if there was someone other than Trump or Clinton running, such as a liberal Republican or conservative Democrat, I wouldn’t be voting for Hillary.)”

            check your window. it seems to have slid too far right to notice the conservative democrat being nominated.

          • Retributer

            “the conservative democrat being nominated”
            Who could that be?

          • BCinBCS

            Jed, I’m mostly concerned about her propensity to want to solve problems militarily.

          • Jed

            yup. i would put her hawkishness down as one way she is not a leftist (of course, there are isolationists on the right, too).

          • smiavs

            Interesting how Conservatives are often “too tired to argue” when asked to provide facts that support their ridiculous claims. Tell AmericanNana to “hang in there” all you like; it’s clear whose argument won here and it wasn’t yours.

          • truffle19

            You’re just not noticing it the other way, Wilma. Trust me the name calling is definitely a two way street.

          • wessexmom

            I’m surprised Trump hasn’t scammed you out of your savings seeing how you’ve fallen for his racist campaign of lies about President Obama’s birth origins. Trump even demanded to see the President’s grades, knowing full well that Obama graduated from Columbia University and that he was elected president of the Harvard Law Review! Well, it’s time now for Donald Trump to produce HIS grades AND his tax returns AND medical record! I do not believe this idiot with a 3rd grade vocabulary made good grades at Wharton. Not for a NY minute!

            Over the last few years Donald Trump has instructed his staff to spend hours and hours and hours listening to right-wing radio wack jobs like Alex Jones and Mark Levine–just to find out what red-hot buttons he could push with the wing-nut crowd to win their support for his candidacy. Trump is not a successful businessman. He’s a fraud and monstrous manipulator, a Trumpenstein created in the GOP ethos of lies, false characterizations and misrepresentations. You Republicans deserve him. The rest of us do not.

          • Wilma Doll

            Hang in there. Trying to argue with liberals is the same old circle they travel in. You are smart to just be silent. Anything you say, even though it is simply your opinion, will be used as fodder by them to insult you. I apologize for their lack of respect for you.

          • smiavs

            Racism, much?

          • Anton Chigurh✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            “Racism”: the meaningless default reaction of libtards when their fantasy reality has been challenged with an opposing viewpoint. Can be interchanged with “sexist”, “homophobic”, and other equally meaningless insults.

          • BCinBCS

            So you think that being a racist, sexist, and homophobe are “meaningless insults”?
            It’s little wonder, then, that so many right-wing conservatives are those things.

          • Anton Chigurh✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            See. You just used those labels to blanket-judge an enormous segment of American society while everyday we see glaring examples of such things coming out of the liberal left–obviously rendering those default labels meaningless.

          • BCinBCS

            I can see how you would feel the way that you do if being a racist, sexist and homophobe were “meaningless insults”. The fact that I used the terms to describe “so many right-wing conservatives” does not alter the fact that what I said is correct. What I don’t understand is how you cannot see that it is true.

          • Wilson James

            You do not recognize the racism, homophobia and sexism you conservatives espouse? Is conservatism suffering from a lack of self-awareness? Admit it, stand up and shout it to the rafters. Stop being PC and quit whining.

          • Anton Chigurh✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            “Stop being PC” LOL Yeah…you really don’t understand some very basic, high-school level things…

          • The words “racism” “sexist” and “homophobic” do very often seem meaningless to racists, sexists and homophobic individuals. Perhaps a dictionary could enlighten them some. Probably will not help them with their own awareness issues, but it might demonstrate that they do have meaning, at least.

          • Anton Chigurh✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            They used to, maybe sometimes, but not anymore in our up is down, black is white, day is night world today. Now, using those words 99% of the time comes from a virtue-signalling pea-brained liberal trying to rationalize his immature, emotion-based inanities.

            “Homophobic” is of course the liberal inanity of the day because of Orlando. This made-up word, a senseless concoction of Latin and Greek (!?) created by people who knew no Latin or Greek linguistics, attempts to portray people with a healthy (if insensitive), natural disdain or disgust of homosexuality as being afraid of it–rather than, of course, disdainful and disgusted by it. Obviously exactly no one is afraid of homosexuals, but this has been the primary defense mechanism for them to try to rationalize and legitimize their deviance. The crux of the matter is that no one used to give a hoot about gays, but when they became political, demanding special “victim” status and special treatment (culminating today in the surreal demand from trannies to be taken as their fantasy gender), then most people really suddenly loathed them.

          • Retributer

            Bravo!

          • Sir, you see a very different world than I do. And I was a lifelong Republican until Bush II pushed me too far. I think Obama has been outstanding, though far from perfect. How can you possibly think the things he’s done, mainly standing up for gay rights and the uninsured, are bad? Everything else has been just normal President stuff, usually pro business.

          • waysey1

            AmericanNana, I agree with all but the statement that she and Bernie love America. I think she is evil and she doesn’t love America nor does Bernie or they wouldn’t be dead set on making our great country a socialist nation or better yet communist. The only hope for America is DonaldTrump, i think he truly loves this country as does his wife and children. He may not be the perfect candidate but a much better choice than any the Democrats have to offer.

          • wanagiakicita

            Dear Nana, she hasn’t gotten away with anything….that’s what clearly amazes me. You have been so brainwashed that you can’t see the forest for the trees. If there was ANYTHING she had ACTUALLY done, she’d be in prison with all the Republican clowns out there terrorizing the Congress to get to her……they have lied, smeared and abused this woman horribly, but she is STILL standing and she has more class, more experience and more intelligence than all of them combined. Give me a strong educated experienced woman and I’ll show you a leader we can be PROUD of and that IS Hillary!

          • Retributer

            The LAST democratic, if not JFK, was Harry Truman! Every sorry so called democrat since then has been divisive in exploiting race, and trying to turn the USA into a third world country!

          • BCinBCS

            Wow, Retributer, you really don’t know your political history, do you? Ever heard of Nixon’s southern strategy. I suppose if you consider working toward racial, ethnic and gender equality is racist then the Democratic party is, indeed, guilty of racism.

          • Retributer

            Ever heard of Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” and the explosion of welfare for single mom’s to produce more dependent “democrat” voters? Ever heard of the Ted Kennedy’s “1965 Immigration and Nationality Act” to produce more dependent “democrat” voters? How do you feel about Obama and Clinton setting the Middle East on fire, then calling the “invasion” of Muslims “refugees”, to produce more dependent “democrat” voters? How do you feel about the “open border” policy and call for amnesty in order to (can you guess it) produce more dependent “democrat” voters? I call it destruction of your national sovereignty, your borders, your laws, your language and your culture! Democrats are overloading our resources and destroying the jobs and security of American Citizens in favor of legal and illegal immigrants, and you’re so naïve that you call it “working toward racial, ethnic and gender equality”! In your ignorance, don’t question MY knowledge of political history!

          • BCinBCS

            Retributer, the United States has always been a land of immigrants and, unless you are Native-American, you or your ancestors came here as immigrants. Just because a lot of today’s immigrants happen to be brown is no reason to change one of the core foundations of this country. And as far as your claim that immigrants tend to vote Democratic (after they have worked hard to obtain citizenship and voting rights), I would propose that the solution to that would be for the Republican party to offer policies that would make them want to vote Republican. Also, 10,000 Middle Eastern refugees in a country of 320,000,000 people is hardly a drop in our population bucket and not an “invasion”.

            How do you feel about Obama and Clinton setting the Middle East on fire…

            Were you just born in the last eight years? You might want to go back one more administration and review that history.

            Democrats are overloading our resources and destroying the jobs and security of American Citizens in favor of legal and illegal immigrants, and you’re so naïve that you call it “working toward racial, ethnic and gender equality”!

            Not only do I question your knowledge of history, I also question your knowledge of economics and your reading comprehension. The employment policies of the United States are being disrupted by globalization, a force that, unfortunately, cannot be halted. It can, however be mitigated but your Republicans in the Congress will not allow Democratic legislation to mitigate its impact be passed. Finally, my reply about “racial, ethnic and gender equality” was referring to the Democratic party’s attitude toward race, not immigration – but then, I can now see how you would conflate the two.

          • truffle19

            it’s funny who you say “set the middle east on fire.” I believe two wars were started in the middle east by the US in recent years. One by Bush Sr, one by Bush Jr.

          • Retributer

            Buildup to war: Clinton, Iraq and WMDs

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACffW99kOB8

          • Retributer

            Bill Clinton 1998 Iraq Liberation Act

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=457jp8VGhEE

          • truffle19

            So you have no counter to my point. You’re comparing this to convincing congress to declare war? Too funny.

          • Retributer
          • BCinBCS

            From Rewire.News:
            “Starting in 2011, Prager founded Prager University, an online resource that produces short videos on Prager’s favorite extremist tropes.
            …PragerU was started with the intent to promote Prager’s version of Judeo-Christian values and combat the “liberal bias” conservatives believe is so prevalent in America’s education system.
            …Prager University’s largest donors, Dan and Farris Wilks, have spent the last few years using the fortune they made from the fracking boom to fund extreme right-wing causes.

            The self-described conservative Barry Bickmore posted in a counter to one of PragerU’s denial of climate change presentations that:
            Suffice it to say that PU videos sometimes make interesting arguments, but I wouldn’t trust them to provide a fair discussion of alternative (i.e., more liberal) points of view.

            There are many more reviews like this online and I could quote more but you should now understand where PragerU’s point of view (POV) lies.

            To be fair, knowing where PragerU’s politics lies does not necessarily mean that they are wrong and showing their obvious far-right POV could be labeled as an ad hominem attack when used against those that quote the site. With those caveats in mind, I leave it to others to provide the overwhelming case against what was presented in this video. (I’m tired of being the “Keep Your Facts Straight Police”.)

          • Retributer

            (I’m tired of being the “Keep Your Facts Straight Police”.)

            I hear ya! It really bites when the people that your trying to help are SO impenetrably DENSE!

          • Retributer
          • smiavs

            Truth or fiction dot com is not a reliable source by any stretch of the imagination. Provide a source that would AT LEAST hold up if being graded by a university professor, and then people might consider what you have to say.

          • Retributer

            500 Tons of Uranium Yellowcake Secretly Moved From Iraq to Canada–Truth!

            https://www.truthorfiction.com/uraniumyellowcake/

          • truffle19

            Another empty comments filled with sound and fury but completely lacking in facts or evidence.

        • IndianaPearl

          I’ll bet you watch Fox News exclusively, listen to Outrage Media, and have read little about the world.

          Hillary’s health has been well-documented. Trump’s has not, nor have we seen his taxes. What’s he hiding?

          “Jail”? If Cheney isn’t in jail, no one should be.

        • wessexmom

          You’re NO patriot! And please do not insert God into your ignorant hateful MISOGYNIST comments. God might decide to follow DJT’s example and sue you for slander, especially if you’re supporting the walking talking embodiment of evil, Donald Trump!

          Hillary Clinton looks a million times better and younger and fitter than Trump, who has the body of a hippo and the face of a giant snapping turtle whose skin and brain has been baking far too long in the sun.

          Donald Trump couldn’t care less about you or about this country. It is a FACT that Trump has scammed thousands of hardworking Americans out of their life savings. And why? Because he’s an evil con man who thrives on chaos he creates–It makes him feel ALIVE. HE is the personification of evil!

          • BCinBCS

            It would be great if those who vote for him [Trump] could have him as their president and THEIRS ONLY. Now THAT’S a reality show the whole world would watch!

            Ding, ding, ding, ding.
            A thousand thumbs up!

          • Retributer

            Such a banal response! Do you save all of those hackneyed comments so you can pull them out of your ear at any time?

    • waysey1

      If so, why is there very little that she has accomplished except destruction?

    • don76550

      Some concern over her truthfulness? That communist criminal cannot open her mouth without telling a lie.

  • Texas Publius

    Why conservatives should vote for Hillary? I thought I’d seen it all….

    Yeah, because Clinton will appoint judges to the US Supreme Court and higher federal courts who defer to the actual language in constitutions, opinions, statutes, etc rather than re-write those to suit their own ideologies? Right.

    Hillary and Cruz both have a congenital lying problem. The fact that Cruz is waffling on whether to vote for Clinton or Trump shows who has the character flaw here: Cruz himself. Says a lot about the man.

    Hey, wasn’t Cruz also the biggest supporter for another liar, Ken Paxton, being elected AG? Texas should collectively send Cruz a “thank you” card for that gift.

    • Charlie Adaway

      “The fact that Cruz is waffling on whether to vote for Clinton or Trump”
      what are you smoking…..

  • Rules of Blazon

    This is a great piece! Brava!

    And it can’t be stressed enough that anyone who supports Trump is also supporting all of what Trump says, does, believes, condones, etc.

    And I would take it one small step further. In light of the binary nature of our political system and the enormous danger to the viability of the Republic posed by a prospective Trump presidency, failing to vote for Hillary effectively amounts to supporting Trump.

    • Ted Thomas Martin

      It IS a great piece.

    • Kevin

      I don’t necessarily agree with your second point. I can support Hillary (or any other person or political candidate or religious leader,etc.) without supporting all of her policies and beliefs. My amount of support for a person may only go as far as recognizing that they are the best of the choices at hand, and certainly not an ideal candidate.

      • The difference, though, is that Hillary has demonstrated in the past that she is anxious to minister to the needs of her constituency, even if it’s just to get elected and re-elected. So, one can disagree with her, express criticism, and if there are enough of you (or enough of you have enough money), you have a chance of being heard and getting her to change course. Which, by the way, is exactly how elected representatives in a democracy are supposed to act, however flawed the system.

        Trump, on the other hand, just does whatever his big, fat ego dictates and woe betide anyone who gets in his way. Agreeing with that is agreeing with a would-be dictator, not someone who would improve our democratic process.

        • waysey1

          Paula, how do you know he does what his big fat ego dictates. Personally, I don’t see how that could possible be true having been such a successful businessman and made himself quite wealthy. In my opinion, I find nothing that would keep me from voting for him and everything to keep me from voting for Hillary. She is a liar, a cheat and a thief, so far I have no evidence that Trump is any of that.

          • wanagiakicita

            Waysey1, do you read, watch cable news, listen to the radio? There are volumes of evidence that he is directed PURELY by his ego….one reason I firmly believe that pinning him down to the first debate will be hysterical…..his response to the first serious question will be to spew personal attacks, throw spitballs and walk off the stage when he has no answers. If you are so blind that you can’t see the FRAUD this man is and those people he has cheated, lied about and stolen from you are a sheep of the first level and a Right wing tool that doesn’t think for herself. No matter what they have tried to do to Hillary, their smears and lies don’t beat her. If there was one iota to the crap they’ve thrown at her she’d be in prison, but you idiots have catapaulted her to a “god” like level who has so much power all she has to do is blink and her enemies fall…..you are simply FULL OF BS.

          • The man brags about his ego, brags about having declared bankruptcy multiple times just avoid paying his creditors (which is fraud), and brags about cutting corners in his businesses (which is also fraud). As for being a successful businessman, he started out rich, very rich. He’d have to work at it pretty hard to lose all that money. As articles such as Liz Mair’s at Independent Journal Opinion and Aaron Bandler’s on The Daily Wire indicate, he’s not actually a very good businessman. He just started out with a whole lot of capital.

            If you want to hate Hillary Clinton and believe every unsubstantiated bit of nonsense the NeoCons have cooked up over the past twenty years, that’s up to you, but Trump’s record is both dismaying and well-documented. You really have to hold your nose and close your eyes to a lot of things to vote for him with a clear conscience.

    • don76550

      It cannot be stressed enough that anyone who supports Hillary is clearly anti American and an ememy of this country, a proponent of mendacity, corruption and criminal activity, indeed even treason

      • wanagiakicita

        Blah blah blah blah blah….so the accused child rapist, fraud, racist, bigot, war monger, misogynist, who steals from his contractors after they have performed their work, the students that he ripped off at his “university”, the jobs that ALL his manufacturing took overseas, his NOT PAYING TAXES, his lies about calling in to talk shows pretending to be someone else, his 4 bankrupticies, three marriages and who knows how many affairs is so “American”….what a joke you clowns are!

        • don76550

          Oh gee, did I irritate a poor widdle anti American delicate snowflake? Gee that sucks.

          • Pudgy Puddleton

            Yep, sound like you did, Don. But, you have to realize, when you say something as stupid as you did, it is irritating. Almost as irritating as your juvenile troll response in an adult discussion.

  • Well said Erica.

    There is no compelling reason to vote for Trump. None, nada, zip, zilch, nyet…

    There are those that are deluding themselves that they are voting for his message and not the man. That they actually believe that Trump believes the message he is running on. That Trump is more honest than Hillary…
    O_o
    Let me repeat that — yes, I’ve had a Trump supporter with a straight face and full of sincerity, try to tell me that Trump has more honesty, more integrity, more honor than Hillary Rodham Clinton. Now if that doesn’t make you go OMGWTFBBQBob? then nothing will.

    Those who support Trump believe that a conservative supreme court nominee is more important than having a responsible, steady, reasoned, adult at the helm of our country. That somehow Trump understands and will abide by the limits the constitution puts on the President. That he truly will put the best interests of our country first.

    I don’t know if they’re truly delusional, overly optimistic, or forgot to clean their rose colored glasses but I am not willing to take that chance, to gamble on such a high stakes bet, with our country, our constitution, our way of life, by supporting a Trump presidency in any way shape or form.

    I am not a fan of HRC, I honestly wish there was a candidate that I could marginally get behind – this truly is a choice of the lesser of two evils. And quite frankly, Trump is the worse of the two evils.

    So I am supporting Hillary, not because I think she is the best choice or that I agree with her policies, or that I think she’s not corrupt, or that she is a woman; I am supporting her, will vote for her, because the Libertarian Party candidate, Gary Johnson has less than a snowball’s chance in hell of even getting 15% of the general election making Hillary the only viable alternative to Trump.

    • smiavs

      I DO support and like Hillary, (she wouldn’t be my first choice, but that’s life) so we’ll have to disagree there, but I certainly agree on your Supreme Court point. There’s no evidence that Trump would even choose conservative nominees; the man’s proven to be totally unstable. Anything he says now could be drastically different from what he would actually do if elected.

      • Pudgy Puddleton

        In fact, he’s been quite socially liberal throughout his life, and currently on key issues. And most of the hot button issues conservatives are interesting in that go to SCOTUS are social issues. I’d even argue, in an effort to get the nomination through, a centrist like Hillary may appoint someone to the right of Trump. I could also see Trump appointing a friend to the court, rather than the most qualified candidate with his shared philosophies, so his influence could still be felt and made after he left office. His track record has always been to get an angle in business from his situation. Look how he’s been using his donor’s money to buy his own products and services.

  • José

    Re: Clinton’s comment about a “vast right wing conspiracy” and characterizing it as “paranoid”.
    Erica, what DO you think is an apt description of the obsessive and highly personal opposition to the Clintons, operated in cahoots with right wing media (a Fox News CEO who spent years in Republican Party politics, a network of unaccountable talk radio commentators), including a publicly funded wild goose chase for scandals, culminating in a sorry spectacle of Congressional Republicans actually impeaching a lame duck President, in part because he lied about a consensual act of infidelity? Vast. Right wing. Conspiracy. It’s blunt, I understand, but what part of the term do you consider to be incorrect?
    It only seems overwrought now in comparison to the Obama Derangement Syndrome that followed eight years later. Yes, there have been ugly attacks from the other side but in my lifetime I have never seen such antipathy.

    • RoughRugger

      Actually, I’d opine that the current Obama Derangement Syndrome validates that the “vast right-wing conspiracy” was not only a reasonable characterization of what was going on, it’s actually the GOP’s default behavior.

      • Jed

        one quibble: there is clearly a right wing conspiracy. and there is just as clearly a vast amount of derangement on the right. but these aren’t necessarily the same people.

    • Dback

      At the time she said that, TIME had a major graphic in its weekly issue showing all the major donors, radio talk-show hosts, columnists & commentators, etc. and their ties to various monied interests and the Federalist Society, the Republican Party, etc. People dismissed her remarks at their peril; she was the embodiment of “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you.”

  • Beerman

    EG, thank you for calling “it” as “it” is.

    I am confident that the majority of voters from both parties have to be intelligent enough to understand that politics are about more than just winning and losing. It’s not a game. The right thing to do is for everyone of both parties, who believes in democracy, is to gather around and work to defeat Trump.

    Your friend, Ted Cruz, was right when he stated on television talk shows that Trump was: “Amoral, a narcissist, and a pathological liar.”

    Also, conservative leader Charles Krauthammer summed it up very well: “Trump is a great big middle finger aimed at a Republican establishment that has abandoned its principles.”

  • Charlie Adaway

    Have you voted Grandpa did…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUEqh07E4dY

  • IndianaPearl
  • WUSRPH

    Excellent presentation of the reasons why anyone–Republican, Democrat, Independent or just a regular American–should support Clinton. I know it is hard for some to cross that line and vote for the Democratic nominee but the threat presented by Trump is to great to ignore.

    • donuthin2

      I, a republican for more than 40 years, decided to vote for Hillary a long time ago for many of the reasons that EG mentioned. You live for another day.

  • nickthap

    Are we still pretending any of this has anything to do with reason?

  • Charlie Adaway

    AP declares Hillary the winner….
    “Hillary Clinton has earned enough delegates to clinch the Democratic presidential nomination, according to an Associated Press count released Monday night – an assessment swiftly challenged by primary rival Bernie Sanders and his campaign.”
    “http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/07/clinton-has-delegates-to-win-dem-nomination-ap-reports-sanders-questions-tally.html”

    Looks like the media is now yelling dem voters to stay home they have enough dead voters to call it for Hillary.
    Strange you ain’t seen nothing……hope ol’ Bern doesn’t go missing or something…..

  • Charlie Adaway

    Just in case you had some hope of sanity returning to the US….think again
    “The Department of Veterans Affairs is proposing a rule change to begin covering sex-reassignment surgeries and other related medical treatment for transgender veterans.
    The proposed rule change, announced on the Executive Office of the President’s website, would allow veterans to apply for medical services to change their sex, including surgery, to be determined on a case-by-case basis.”

    The Department of Veterans Affairs is proposing a rule change to begin covering sex-reassignment surgeries and other related medical treatment for transgender veterans.

    The proposed rule change, announced on the Executive Office of the President’s website, would allow veterans to apply for medical services to change their sex, including surgery, to be determined on a case-by-case basis.”
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/veterans-affairs-department-proposes-coverage-for-gender-reassignment-surgery-1464968419

    The goofy Obama admin cannot take care of our vets but they can find $3 billion for sex change ops at the VA? Yep I know…one word goofy.

  • Charlie Adaway

    How funny Erica has trolled yawl big time.
    Ms Grieder clearly stated she would support Hillary over Trump since way back when. So she used Cruz to stroke your hatred for Trump till most of you foamed at the mouth.
    She then came out for Hillary and now you’re all lining up to kiss her feet.

    Seriously this was a major troll and I helped her every step of the way……hahaha.

    • IndianaPearl

      Are you having a tough time laying off the Twinkies until sundown?

  • IndianaPearl

    For a laugh read the last article of Crazy Charlie’s now-defunct Fort Bend Conservative. Note that the title of the article is “Vaya Con Dios,” but in the text it is “Viya con Dios.”

    http://www.fortbendconservative.org/

    • Beerman

      Thanks, what a “hoot.”

      Now, I know why Cruz’s handlers kept the Troll away from the Senator while in Ft. Bend County, and refused to have a picture taken with him……unbelievable!

      • Charlie Adaway

        awwww Beerman has his panties in a wad because I called him out about lying……

        • IndianaPearl

          “Viya con dios”!

        • IndianaPearl

          The Arab is obsessed with Beerman’s panties this week.

  • space2k

    Well done. I would really like a journalist to ask one of the GOP leaders a question. I keep hearing them say that the House, his advisors, etc. will lead or even restrain him. Dubious to say the least. My question: will they take away his Twitter? The casual Twitter threats and insults currently directed at American politicians will be aimed at our allies (and enemies). What happens when he, even in his “I’m just sayin'” way, threatens to bomb Tehran? If it’s a bluff, you have lost all credibility. What about tweeting that Canada best yield during trade negotiations, “or else”? You think that maybe he would tweet his distaste for Angela Merkel’s appearance? He surely will – and in his first week or month in office. So, GOP leaders, what do you do about that?

    • Charlie Adaway

      Nobody has taken Bozo’s twitter acct away…..Barack ObamaVerified account [email protected] 23h

      • IndianaPearl

        Why should the president’s Twitter account be taken away?

  • Alan Martin

    I tend to take exception to the idea that disagreement with some socially hot opinion equals bigotry. And i cant vote for either of them.

    • donuthin2

      Perhaps not all socially hot opinion equals bigotry, but DT’s almost certainly does.

      • Charlie Adaway

        sez who some liberal?

    • dpcesq

      Well, one of them IS going to be the next president. I’m not a huge Hillary fan, but for all her shortcomings, Trump is far, far worse.

    • Socially hot opinion? is that the new way to try to say political correctness?

      Sounds like another euphemism for I don’t wanna give up my unfair advantages and compete as equals.

  • dpcesq

    Excellent article which I have brought to the attention of my conservative friends. I think Trump’s racist rants over the judge in California will also hurt the GOP’s chances of holding the Senate. How can any Senator in his/her right mind refuse to give Merrick Garland a vote in order to save the seat for a Trump appointee? Completely indefensible.

    Makes you wonder who is running mate is going to be. Nobody in his/her right mind will want to be on that ticket, meaning we’ll get some yahoo that is just as bad or even worse — Jan Brewer, Sarah Palin, Louie Gohmert, ….

    • BCinBCS

      — Jan Brewer, Sarah Palin, Louie Gohmert,…Rush Limbaugh…

      Although, now that you mention it, a Trump / Gohmert ticket would be immensely entertaining.

      • dave in texas

        A Trump/Gohmert ticket would have the benefit of making Trump seem presidential in comparison.

        • AlmostNormalTexan

          It would make Trump’s hair look better by comparison too.

    • stellar1

      Since when is Saying what’s Right and the Truth “Racist”??? You people are seriously disabled

      • justabil

        So saying that a judge from Indiana is Mexican is right and the truth? Saying that someone with Mexican heritage can’t be impartial because Trump is against illegal immigration (hint: he’s not, he’s clearly against Mexicans in general) is supposed to be not racist? Speaking of delusional…

      • RoughRugger

        You say this like Trump has more than the most passing of acquaintances with “the Truth”?

      • Michtou

        If it were right and true, maybe. But since it isn’t and you believe it, it is a reflection on your character. Donald Trump said that if you say a lie three times, people will believe it. I guess you are one of the believers.

        • Beerman

          He also said that if you throw enough crap up on a wall, eventually some of it will stick……..

        • stellar1

          What’s true is our borders are being overrun.. by Illegals… what’s right is they should be sent Back… don’t care who they are.. Get it??? If people were invading your yard,or House would you Let them??? Get a Grip

          • truffle19

            Add some more question marks. Maybe that will help us ignore your deflection.

    • Retributer

      You have “conservative friends”? I doubt it!

      • Wilson James

        Why would anyone want a conservative friend?

        • Retributer

          Who better to aid your liberation from the bonds of progressive ignorance?

  • Joe Christian

    You forgot to mention that if Clinton wins, the GOP can immediately start working on finding respectable candidates to run against her in 2020. If Trump wins, the GOP is probably stuck with working for his re-election in 2020 – even if he “promises” to serve only one term.

    • Erica Grieder

      That’s true, and another good reason for Republicans trying to get over the whole “Democrats keeping the White House” thing. With that said, if Trump wins, I think its quite possible Cruz would primary him in 2020, regardless of what the party leadership wants him to do (lol).

      • [email protected]

        “(lol)”, Grieder? Grow up and write like an adult, girl.

    • IndianaPearl

      How do you define “respectable”?

    • RoughRugger

      One wonders where they’ll look…I mean, what remotely viable candidate did they have waiting in the wings for the clown bus this go-round?

    • Reythia

      While I agree with that in principle, of course, I will note that the GOP had eight years of time to find someone to compete with Clinton during THIS election. Yet the pickings were basically horrifying. Trump may have been the worst, but the others were pretty lousy, too.

      The real problem here is that far too many republicans actually AGREE with Trump when he says horrible things. Unless that changes, I see no reason to believe that the next election will be any different than this one.

      • pwt7925

        I think it overstates things to say that they were “horrifying”, unless you allow us to say that the prospect of Bernie as a President was also “horrifying”. The problem was that there were too many pickings, and Trump, whatever you think of him, resonates with a lot of people.

      • truffle19

        If Trump wins, Warren will be the president in 2020. She’s far left of Clinton. Something to think about.

  • Charlie Adaway

    Isn’t it funny liberals can say what Trump said and expect no backlash….
    “In 2001, Sonia Sotomayor, an appeals court judge, gave a speech declaring that the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging.”
    In her speech, Judge Sotomayor questioned the famous notion — often invoked by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her retired Supreme Court colleague, Sandra Day O’Connor — that a wise old man and a wise old woman would reach the same conclusion when deciding cases.
    “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor,”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html?_r=0

    I hardly know where to start Judge Sotomayor’s statement is so sexist and racist its is laughable.

  • Charlie Adaway

    So on 6/6/16 the She Devil was recognized as the dem nominee. However no dem has answered my question, “what happens if she is indicted. Will dems still vote for her?”
    “This argument appears to refute Hillary’s oft-repeated argument that the FBI was only conducting a “security review.” Nor does this case involve a mere monitoring of private activities, according to the Justice filing. The Inspector General referral — from discovering the classified information on her server that Hillary claims never existed — and the State Department’s follow-up relate specifically to law enforcement, which is why the DoJ argues it shouldn’t have to produce the documents sought by Leopold or suffer a summary judgment for failing to produce them.
    The DoJ acknowledges here that the FBI is conducting a law-enforcement action as well as a counterintelligence assessment. That seems significant, especially since Hillary has also insisted that there were no national-security implications from the use of her unauthorized and unsecured e-mail server. If that was the case, the FBI would have certainly ascertained that by now, and would have no need to withhold the documents from the court hearing the FOIA case — and wouldn’t need to justify it with a second secret filing.

    Update: It’s going to be very awkward indeed if the FBI investigation returns a criminal referral and the DoJ declines to pursue it after these declarations, no?
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/07/hmmm-fbi-requests-permission-for-secret-declaration-in-hillary-e-mail-foia-case/

    In less than 2 months we could have two new nominees…….or perhaps 4. Oh yeah its getting gooder…and gooder.

  • WUSRPH

    Trump clearly needs a VP who at least knows the difference between the House and the Senate and what is their role in governing so none of those mentioned on this thread meet those qualifications but he also will demand that whoever it is stay in the office and keep their mouth shut since Trump will not tolerate any competition for attention. That makes it likely that his choice will be a comparative nonentity. Any more suggestions?

    • IndianaPearl

      Will state dinners at a Trump White House end with a performance by the host and hostess?

      https://www.google.com/search?q=melania+trump+on+piano&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=jP5hGn5g_bVvMM%3A

      • Sam Jacinto

        digit’s (AKA DJT) fingers are too short for piano playing.

        • IndianaPearl

          So true! Perhaps Melania is a musician . . .

          With my usual refined taste, I will say no more.

    • dave in texas

      Jefferson Beauregard Sessions.

    • Wesley TX

      I predict that Trump will nominate Trump as Veep since in his mind, only Trump can fill in for Trump.

    • What rational people think Trump needs and what Trump wants are polar opposites. Trump will pick someone who will be invisible. He will not choose anyone who could upstage him in any way shape or form.

  • WUSRPH

    I see from his rushing to his defense that the Troll has abandoned any pretense of still holding out for Cruz and has become a full=fledged Trmptarian. That makes three losers he has backed this year, Guess he no longer wants a picture with Cruz on his wall to make him think he is important.

    • Charlie Adaway

      OH lookie the paid democrat hack is back….sigh

  • WUSRPH

    Greetings from Minnesota. It is 68 degrees here.

    • IndianaPearl

      Don’t gloat.

    • Sam Jacinto

      Pfffftt! Just try to find a good enchilada special.

      • WUSRPH

        Actually I ate at a Mexican restaurant today that was as good as many in Austin. They now have a sizeable Hispanic population that Trump says he will roundup with his Deportation Force and deport.

  • PrattonTexas

    “The Conservative Case for Hillary Clinton” There is none just as there is none for Trump. There may be other “cases” but none stem from conservatism no matter the verbal gymnastics.

    • Oh lordy. Let me guide you through the context, and grammar of writing a title of an essay. This is basic English 101 stuff that everyone should have learned in high school yet it is usually covered again in that required college level course since 90% of college work is writing papers.

      The phrase “The Conservative Case for Hillary Clinton” is a title where the word Case, in this usage, is referring to a persuasive argument. The word Conservative is the audience the argument is targeted to. Finally, for Hillary Clinton tells you the subject of the argument. So to sum this up, the title tell us who the audience is, what the essay is, and the subject of the essay.

      To assume that the first two words are tied together, as if they were an adjective modifying a noun is incorrect. This is not a sentence where the word “conservative” is used as an adjective describing the noun “case”; it is a title, while written in the form of a sentence, but does not follow typical sentence structure one uses in a paragraph. Conservative in this instance, is a noun that is the modifying subject, of another noun, Case. So rather than writing the unwieldy title of “An argument to persuade Conservatives to support Hillary Clinton” we have the simpler, concise and more effective title of “The Conservative Case for Hillary Clinton.

      This is the remedial English lesson for today.

  • Charlie Adaway

    Democrats can only see issues by skin color, sex or gender. They simply lack the knowledge or the impulse control to discuss issues without getting emotional
    “In a shameful haste to embrace identity politics, the latter the political descendant of slavery and segregation, Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have stunningly given thumbs up to a judge who has made no bones about injecting his ethnic heritage into his role as a lawyer and judge.
    In a broadside against Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who presiding over the case against Trump University (a case in itself riddled with bad judicial decision-making as the judge has assigned the case to a notoriously Clinton-supporting law firm — more of which later this week), Trump has assailed the Indiana-born judge as “of Mexican heritage” who has “an inherent conflict of interest.”
    http://spectator.org/trump-is-right-the-shame-of-paul-ryan-and-mitch-mcconnell/

    The left’s inability to interpret law based on knowledge and logic instead of their ethnic heritage has given birth to Trump. Can some leftie explain to us why their ethnic heritage should matter when it becomes to ruling on law.
    For goodness sakes thats what gave us the goofy OJ decision.
    Look we get it the left has no respect for our laws or justice system, ie the censured Eric Holder or the doofus sitting in the atty Gen’s chair.

    • IndianaPearl

      How about goofy Ken Paxton? Even he laughs at you.

    • Wesley TX

      “They simply lack the knowledge or the impulse control to discuss issues without getting emotional”
      That’s a hoot since Donald only knows how to call names instead of discussing issues.

  • Charlie Adaway

    On 6.06.16 the She Devil claimed victory…..
    “On Monday night – the day before California’s primary election – the Associated Press announced Hillary Clinton had finally secured enough delegates to win the Democratic Party nomination.
    But there was some collusion…..
    But now there is evidence that this announcement the night before the nation’s largest primary was planned days in advance.
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/wow-hillary-clinton-caught-colluding-ap-announce-delegate-win-california/

    As my favorite dem Boss Tweed says “I don’t care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating.”

    • IndianaPearl

      SHEDEVIL FOR PRESIDENT!

  • Mar

    All the makings of a good read. I passed it along, too.

  • John Johnson

    More pap from Erica about how Cruz misjudged Trump early on. Trump hasn’t changed a bit. He was egotistical and obnoxious and politically incorrect since day one. Cruz just thought Trump was going to fall by the wayside and because he was playing nice with him when others candidates were openly questioning his positions and qualifications, at some point he would pick up the growing number of Trumpies once Donald started losing primaries. That didn’t happen. Big political mistake by Erica’s annointed one.

    Hillary will continue to cater to the Big’s; all the establishment GOP will continue to lick the hands that feed them; nothing will change…for decades. What other truly independent thinking individual, with the wealth to poke the Big’s in the eyes, will be following him? Who will try and keep the wealth from going in one direction? Who?

    I, and millions of others, are willing to gamble that Trump will place 300+ people in positions who are best qualified to run government offices, not a bunch of rewarded career political flunkies and fund raisers.

    I am willing to take the chance that the divisions of power will work like it is supposed to, and not like it has the last 7+ years…father back than that even. I am not afraid; I am fed up.

    • IndianaPearl

      Oh JJ. Trump now calls many of his campaign staff “stupid.” Which “stupid” staffer would he hire for his cabinet? More psychopaths like Corey Lewandowski?

      • John Johnson

        All I have to do is look at his children and women who have worked for him to realize that he actually turns out sharp people. Compare them to Chelsea. Bless her heart.

        • Wesley TX

          do you mean the Chelsea Clinton that “received an undergraduate degree at Stanford University and later earned master’s degrees from Oxford University and Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health and a Doctor of Philosophy in international relations from the University of Oxford in 2014.”???

          • John Johnson

            Yes, I do. That’s the one. What is she doing with all that knowledge? How does she earn a living? Look it up. Start in middle management like the Trump kids did? Prove their mettle? Work their way up? Seen those kids interviewed? Abstract, off the wall questions? They are the real deal. Chelsea? Who you going to pick to run a company?

          • Go_Down_Moses

            John Johnson: are you suggesting that the Clintons did a poor job in raising Chelsea? I’m a Republican and even I don’t think that.

          • John Johnson

            Not at all. What I am suggesting that if I was a recruiter wanting to hire qualified young people, I would take any of the Trump kids over Chelesa any day.

          • Go_Down_Moses

            Since Trump has said that he had very little roll in their lives, I’m wondering how you think this success you celebrate (I know nothing about them) is a function of his great management skills.

          • Beerman

            A very good thought provoking question…….

          • IndianaPearl

            If the Trump kids had been born middle class, you wouldn’t give them the time of day. They were born privileged.

          • John Johnson

            This is, of course, more total bullshit from you. Can you ever just stay on topic?

          • IndianaPearl

            I’m right on topic.

            And I don’t have to be foul-mouthed to make my point . . .

          • John Johnson

            I read your back and forth trash everyday with JBB…and you call me foul mouthed. That’s rich.

          • IndianaPearl

            I never use bad words, JJ.

          • John Johnson

            Just trash words.

          • IndianaPearl

            None of those seven words George Carlin said you can’t say on TV . . .

          • BCinBCS

            Come on Moses, Chelsea hasn’t won a Nobel or a Pulitzer or cured cancer in the two years since she got out of school (and had a baby) so how sharp could she be?

          • IndianaPearl

            Chelsea Clinton is an accomplished, educated woman. That scares you.

            Running the world’s only super power is not comparable to running a business. The theory that a successful businessman should be a role model for us all is flawed and arrogant. We’ve had more than one “businessman” in the WH and they nearly destroyed the country.

          • John Johnson

            Hahaha. You keep wanting to push Bush onto me. He was a terrible businessman. Everything he touched turned to you know what, except for the Rangers and he was just a minority partner. I would hire Trump’s daughter over Chelsea without hesitation. I ain’t scared of nuttin.

          • IndianaPearl

            Your hypothesis is flawed. Business people don’t usually govern well. Think about that for bit.

          • John Johnson

            How many “businessmen” have become President? Bush was a politician through and through.

          • IndianaPearl

            Harding and Hoover, amongst others.

            Success as a businessman – and Trump’s “success” is questionable – is not the highest form of human evolution.

          • John Johnson

            And who said it was? I will, however, take a sucessful businessman over a career politician, or a bookworm political flunky, any day.

          • IndianaPearl

            What’s wrong with education? You guys on the right hate it for some reason.

          • John Johnson

            Do not. Just know how valuable practical knowledge is to the well educated person. Watched American Airlines hire high falutin Ivy League MBA’s for years and put them on fast track runs through the company as department heads in charge of 20 year veteran directors and managers. What a joke that was. Pompous idiots. One went on to head up and bankrupt Swissair.

          • IndianaPearl

            American Airlines is a business, nothing else. But there are many ways to earn a living besides being in business. Would you like the guy who bags your groceries to be your family doctor?

            Education is The Way Out for many people. You don’t accept that and your world reflects your narrow knowledge base.

          • John Johnson

            What a elitist! You make me chuckle. Furthermore, doctors go through practical training before getting cut loose. The Trump kids worked their way up and had practical training. Chelsea went from school to what?

          • IndianaPearl

            “Training?” I don’t know what you call that in Texas, but in the midwest, we call that “education.”

            “Worked their way up”? That’s a real knee-slapper. They were all born with silver spoons in their mouths, just like Trump.

            Ivanka seems competent, well-adjusted. The two older sons are not impressive. Tiffany just graduated from Wharton, as did her sibs – legacies, I suspect. Tiffany lived on the west coast, so was little influenced by her racist father. The youngest one is unformed.

            They are all “fortunate sons,” just like GWB. Don’t gove that “worked their way up” baloney!

          • John Johnson

            And please don’t expand the coversation like you are always doing. We were comparing the Trump kids to Chelsea. Compared to her rise to the top, the Trump group were snails.

          • IndianaPearl

            Gimme a break! Such silliness!

        • IndianaPearl

          This is funny.

        • truffle19

          Ha, you want to compare someone like Eric to Chelsea? One is a yes man; one actually has the ability to think for herself. But I shouldn’t say anything. Because it’s completely irrelevent. Their kids aren’t the ones running

          • Retributer

            If Chelsea had a thought it would scare the crap out of her!

    • donuthin2

      I agree with you on the Cruz analysis, but your willingness to gamble on Trump is just wishful thinking.

      • John Johnson

        Says you. We’ll see

        • Jed

          my over/under on trump’s EV total = 191.

          should i put you down for the “over?”

    • BCinBCS

      JJ wrote: “I am willing to take the chance that the divisions of power will work like it is supposed to…

      Congressional Republicans such as Mitch McConnell and John McCain are telling everyone not to worry about Donald Trump because they’ll keep him in line. Republican strategist John Feehery assures that if Trump really got really bad, we could impeach him:
      I am not of the opinion that the Republic would fail if the voters select somebody like Trump and if Trump turns out to be half as bad as some conservative pundits would have you believe, there are plenty of legal mechanisms to either contain his worse impulses (the Congress and the Supreme Court, for example) or remove him from office should his transgressions become too toxic.

      JJ, do you and the leaders of the Republican party not understand that any candidate that requires this type of warning label is unfit to be any party’s nominee?

    • justabil

      He’s got a big brain. He’ll be the final decider on the things, so he doesn’t have to listen to anybody, even if the Attorney General tells him it’s illegal to nuke Canada. He’ll fire far more than 300 advisers within the first year, mark my words.

  • IndianaPearl
  • El_Guapo_01

    Until Ms. Clinton comes clean about the email and releases the people who work for her to tell the truth about the circumstances surrounding her email server, I cannot vote for her.

    • Go_Down_Moses

      But you can vote for Trump, who has no core sense of honesty or morality and therefore lies daily, without conscience? He’s a sociopath.

      • El_Guapo_01

        Please show me where I said I’d vote for Trump. I said I couldn’t vote for Ms. Clinton until she fully discloses about the email. I didn’t say I was going to vote for Trump.

        • smiavs

          If you aren’t voting for Clinton you ARE voting for Trump. It doesn’t matter what else you say.

    • truffle19

      This email thing is ridiculous. If that’s what you’re basing your vote on, maybe taking an election off is a good idea.

  • stellar1

    She’s a Freaking Criminal.. you Morons

    She doesn’t have an Honest bone in her Body.. Are you people Blind?? Research her history…

    • Go_Down_Moses

      Stellar1,

      Yes, and despite all of that she would be a better president than Trump. That’s how ridiculous that man is.

    • AmericanNana

      You said it so much better than I could and with fewer words. I would never vote for her! I believe she is pure evil!!!

    • justabil

      Should I research her history, or research all the paranoid ramblings of the right over the last 20 years, all of which have amounted to a hill of beans over here in reality land?

    • Charlie Adaway

      New polling says dems would vote for her even if indicted……you think they want to get a job?

    • truffle19

      That’s a convincing argument. Nothing makes me want to take action like being called a moron.

  • bk

    Are you kidding me?
    More psychologically stable? She left men to die in Benghazi and then lied about it saying it was somebody who made a movie that caused it.
    Shes a monster woman, loves abortionists, takes money from anyone/everyone who she then owes favors for, an opportunist who moves wherever its politically expediant for herself. Damn the political careerists, lets get some real American businessmen in to run the country!

    • Go_Down_Moses

      bk: I don’t believe she “left men to die” in Benghazi, nor do I think that if she had it is indicative of anything other than bad judgement. Trump is on another plane of derangement, and I say that as a voter who has never voted Democrat in his life.

      • AmericanNana

        I pray she didn’t “go _down_Moses but too many lies told by her and O about that terrible night. Too many lies told to the families of those men. She, like all of us, will be judged for our sins one day so I’ll leave the judgment to God. I cannot believe anyone would want her as our president. Just bad choice IMHO

        • Beerman

          Nana, I have never been a big Clinton fan (Bill or Hillary); however, I was very impressed with how she handled the Congressional Benghazi hearings. She made the partisan hacks on that Committee look like fools. In particular, her response to one idiot’s question from left field with this answer: “I’m sorry that it doesn’t fit your rehearsed narrative, Congressman. I can only tell you what the facts were.”

          Benghazi was a perfect example that those that want to believe the worst will believe the worst.

          Sen. Lindsey Graham’s recent remarks sums up my thoughts on the upcoming election battle: “there will come a time when the love of Country will trump hatred of Hillary.”

    • AmericanNana

      Thank you bk….from all of the comments I’m reading, I wonder where all of these people have been since before Bill C took office. Have you not heard any of their goings on in Arkansas, during his presidency, or since O has been president? They are so evil, arrogant and such liars. Benghazi alone turned me against her for sure. The Clintons have no business being in the WH again!!

      • IndianaPearl

        Fox News . . .

      • justabil

        So 7 congressional hearings aren’t enough to convince you that Benghazi is simply a Republican allergic sneeze response brought on by the name Clinton?

  • Beerman

    Yes, Trump is a wealthy businessman; however, I’m much too old to be impressed by anyone’s wealth. And, you know, we never hear any specifics about his plan to make things so great. It is especially strange to me the fixation of Trump and his followers on racial purity and protection of America from immigrants of color. I believe the hatred and discrimination being preached by him is only the beginning, and that he will turn against anyone that does not genuflect to his vision. I think the reality of his movement is that he is advocating an aryan nation. His unpredictability, always playing to conspiracy theorizing and fear-mongering is terrifying to me.

    • Charlie Adaway

      “It is especially strange to me the fixation of Trump and his followers on racial purity and protection of America from immigrants of color.”
      This is what is wrong with dems. Americans do not want illegal immigration. Dems falsely accuse them of being racists. I hate a piece of crap liar.

      • Gunslinger

        You silly goose, you don’t hate liars.

        • IndianaPearl

          Self loathing . . .

        • Charlie Adaway

          Oh lookie gibberish slinger is back

    • justabil

      And, it’s not like Hillary is anti-business or anything. Go ask a lefty to explain it to you if you think she is.

    • Michtou

      And he’s not even a very good businessman!

  • Bill Griggs

    Not only can Republican lawmakers openly oppose her, they can blame everything that goes wrong on her and get people all riled up to come vote against her in 2018 by voting for more Republican lawmakers, governors, etc. If Trump wins, he will likely upset people so much that exactly the opposite will happen in 2018 and 2020.

    • truffle19

      So what they’ve been doing for the past 8 years, basically? Hopefully, they can oppose her without being obstructionists again.

  • Fantasy Maker

    Anyone who supports this lying, corrupt, incompetent, insufferable, controlling,smug, deceitful witch does not care about the rule of law or the security of the country, just pushing the liberal agenda.

    • AmericanNana

      Amen and again I say Amen…. You are 100% correct. USA cannot survive 4/8 more years of the same old Obama administration.

      • Randy Hiner

        It has been a terrible disaster…..stock market up almost 300% from where w left it, American cars selling like hotcakes after almost going out of business at the end of w’s term, Unemployment cut in half, 401k’s back up to normal levels. It’s been so hard for all of us to tolerate and overcome, we will just have to suffer in silence….and continue to medicate ourselves.

        • Gunslinger

          When will this nightmare of people with affordable health care end?

      • BCinBCS

        Nana Wrote: USA cannot survive 4/8 more years of the same old Obama administration.

        O.K. Nana, I’m calling you out. Please enumerate all of the horrible things that President Obama has done or caused during his presidency.

        • BCinBCS

          After a day waiting for a reply to my request for specifics from Nana: crickets

      • truffle19

        Want to bet? I’m willing to put money in an account. If America is no longer standing after her term, the money is all yours. If it is, you pay up.

        • Jed

          are you betting in buffalo hides?

    • IndianaPearl

      Don’t sugarcoat it, FM. Tell,us how you really feel.

      SUPERWITCH FOR PRESIDENT!

    • So you’re advocating for the lying, corrupt, incompetent, insufferable, controlling, smug, deceitful, racist, misogynist?

      • Fantasy Maker

        First of all, Trump has not willfully and deliberately tried to compromise the security of this nation and continually lied about it.

        want someone that can lead this country and follow the laws. Clinton has a record of ignoring the laws, making them as she goes along or thinks they do not apply to her. She is a sociopath and this should give you a preview of what she would do with even more power. Anyone who supports hers does not care about the rule of law.

        • IndianaPearl

          Trump has had 139 federal lawsuits filed against him.

          • Fantasy Maker

            Anyone can sue anyone these days. How many of those lawsuits involve Trump deleting government files, down loading top secret and confidential information onto a flash drive, given this flash drive to some other human as well setting up a server to bypass the government server for her own political expediency and control.

          • IndianaPearl

            I guarantee there aren’t 139 cases against Hillary. You ‘re engaging in mental self-gratification.

        • LOL. Rule of Law? I am amused at your childish faux righteousness. Name one candidate that actually fits the above criteria that you are disparaging Clinton for.

          I prefer reality over fantasy.

          • Fantasy Maker

            It is one thing to lie about your net worth like Trump, it is an entirely different level to commit numerous felonies, put your own personal agenda ahead of the national security of the country and then lie, stone wall about it for months.

          • She has not been indicted for even one misdemeanor much less a felony, after more than 20 years and millions upon millions of taxpayers dollars spent (wasted) investigating her. Why is that? If she is so obviously guilty why hasn’t she been indicted much less convicted of even one of these purported crimes she has been accused of?

            Trump doesn’t just lie about his net worth. His “business” practices are deplorable. He can’t control his temper, he has a personal agenda that is far worse than HRC and stonewalling – he appears to have written the book on that technique.

            you’ve definitely bought into the fantasy that those who hate HRC have spun for you.

          • Fantasy Maker

            Continue sniffing Clinton’ soiled pantsuit

          • truffle19

            Continue holding Trump’s tiny hands.

          • So you have no answer, no rebuttal, no explanation for why the DOJ, Congress, the State of Arkansas and whoever else investigated her couldn’t find enough evidence of her so-called criminal activities to even file an indictment on her.

            That’s the most intelligent and reasoned argument you could make – a half-assed insult.

            It’s interesting that when people start slinging insults it’s usually, not always, but usually because they have no defense, no factual basis for their position, and are so emotionally invested in their position that they simply do not have the intellectual maturity to admit that they may have it wrong. That they are letting their emotions and peer pressure run amuck and are too embarrassed to reconsider their position. So they resort to any of a multitude of bad arguments, eschewing logic and reason, just so they don’t have to admit they may be wrong or that they simply have not done enough research to back up their arguments. Because heaven forbid that one might have to admit they made a mistake, that they were wrong about something! Oh the horror of it!

            This is so pervasive in our culture now and not just in political belief. Just look at the rape scandals at both Baylor and Stanford for glaring examples of people who can not admit to being wrong, to defending those who were wrong.

          • Fantasy Maker

            The FBI is still doing its investigation but make no mistake that when they finish, it will be shocking to some but not to most as to how corrupt, arrogant, deceitful , manipulative, controlling, incompetent and truly insufferable this politically expedient witch is.

            It is only the most ardent of Clinton mouth breathers who cannot connect the dots as to the felonies committed by this sociopath. The FBI investigation will make the IG report look like a game of table tennis and you can quote me on it. I will make a point to follow up with you assuming you have not deleted your account and scurried off with your tiny tail between your legs.

          • Unlike you, I’m not hiding behind a pseudonym. I’ve been around for years. I don’t post as frequently as you seem to either. I also try to not stoop to the level of tossing insults and name calling that you are engaging in.

            We’ll see, how the FBI investigation progresses. You are aware that just because a law enforcement agency is investigating, even the FBI, that doesn’t prove or guarantee that wrong doing happened or that a crime was committed.

            So the question is; will you be around when nothing comes from this investigation either? Or will you again say that somehow she gamed the system and she’s still guilty?

          • Fantasy Maker

            I am well aware of how political the AG office is and it is only they who can charge her.. However, the IG report from the State Department is scathing enough and it wasn’t even a criminal investigation like the FBI and they didn’t even look at the family slush fund known as the Clinton Global Initiative.
            Had ANY other Federal employee did what Clinton did, at best they would be negotiating a plea deal like Petraus did, the worse case scenario is they would be doing hard jail time.

            I suspect once the CIA, DoD, NSA, Homeland Security as well as the FBI tell AG Lynch the kind of damage that Clinton has done to national security, Lynch will have no choice but to charge her. because the evidence will be so overwhelming.

          • Well Fantasy Maker, the FBI just just recommended that no criminal charges should be filed against Hillary Clinton. What do you have to say about that?

            I wasn’t shocked by this outcome at all – I bet you were.

          • Fantasy Maker

            That would be an understatement

          • truffle19

            Trump has been putting his own personal agenda over that of other Americans his entire career. How do you not know this?

          • Fantasy Maker

            Maybe you should look up the difference between a private business person and public official. You idiot.

        • Beerman

          We know about the Clinton’s lies, deals and transgressions because of the 1st amendment, that gives us the freedom of the press. Our liberty depends on this freedom and that cannot be limited without being lost. We have the right to call Hillary a criminal, maybe deservedly so, however, she has not been convicted as a criminal in our judicial court system, and that is what part of democracy is all about, in my mind.

          Did you see the Trump two press conferences regarding the Trump University fraud case, and the veteran donations from his debate special that raise funds? Did you note how he handles the press and media refusing to answer questions and attacking instead of responding. He trampled on the 1st amendment rights of those reporters in the audience. Is that the type of demagogue that we want to lead our Country?

          • BCinBCS

            Beerman this is merely a nitpick but when you stated “…she has not been convicted as a criminal in our judicial court system…” you should remember that not only has she not been convicted but she has not even been indicted despite over twenty years of constant attempts to find illegal acts by the Republican party. I understand that wasn’t the point of your comment, though.

          • Beerman

            Very good point, and useful in future debates on HRC.

          • Fantasy Maker

            First of all, only a moron cannot connect the dots to see that Clinton has committed numerous felonies and lied to everyone about it. Secondly, you are correct that Clinton has not been convicted of any crime and neither has Trump. But of course being fair and equitable has NEVER been a trait of any liberal I have ever known.

            Secondly, if you as a consumer are stupid enough tot pay $20,000 or whatever the amount was for a real estate course, that is on you. How many saps over pay for everything- a hamburger, accounting fees, cars etc. Buyer beware.

          • BCinBCS

            Fantasy wrote: “…only a moron cannot connect the dots to see that Clinton has committed numerous felonies and lied to everyone about it.

            Only a moron would make a statement that if true would demonstrate the absolute incompetence of the Republican party and legal system prosecutors, who, for the last twenty-plus years, have failed to get the evidence for these felonies and convict her. Fantasy, don’t you find it even a little odd that this hasn’t occurred, even once, by simply connecting the dots?

          • Beerman

            First of all, I am not a liberal, just an old 76 year old fiscal conservative and socially tolerant independent thinker. I am not sure if I am a moron or not, time will tell. Do morons have common sense?

            Secondly, I agree with you that Trump has been very effective at manipulating “saps.” Winning the Republican presidential nomination pretty well confirms his ability in that regard.

            Erica said it very well, “Donald Trump is an affront to basic standards of honesty, virtue and citizenship. He pollutes the atmosphere in which our children are raised.” One of the most profound statements that she has ever written.

    • BCinBCS

      Fantasy Maker wrote: “[Hillary Clinton is] just pushing the liberal agenda.

      No, not really. If you are against the liberal candidate then you are against Bernie Sanders. Hillary is closer to a moderate, despite the position of the Overton window.

      • Fantasy Maker

        She has deliberately gone further liberal as has Dems on the party

        • IndianaPearl

          “. . . gone further liberal as has Dems on the party.”

          This statement is incoherent.

          • Fantasy Maker

            She has veered further left because Sanders was doing so well

          • IndianaPearl

            That’s fine with me.

        • BCinBCS

          Well, Fantasy, maybe to you she is liberal and has moved even more so liberal because of the pressure of Bernie Sanders but you are looking at her positions from the perspective of someone who is so far to the right that anyone who isn’t Attila The Hun would appear liberal. To many Democrats she is conservative since they are so far to the left. In the scheme of Democratic politics, she is a moderate.

          In the Overton window, she is a liberal but that window has shifted so far to the right in the last two decades that what was once considered conservative is now considered moderate to liberal.

  • Charlie Adaway

    and the polls say…..
    “Most continue to believe likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton is a lawbreaker, but half of all voters also say a felony indictment shouldn’t stop her campaign for the presidency.”
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/may_2016/50_say_clinton_should_keep_running_even_if_indicted

    Looters everywhere are celebrating….when will she give her “I’m not a crook” speech?

  • Charlie Adaway

    Dems face YYYYYYUUUUUUUUFFFFFEEEEEE choice a soon to be indicted Hillary or Trump……
    yeah dems got us into this mess.

    • IndianaPearl

      What does “yyyuuufffeee” mean, Einstein?

      Spelling and punctuation are important.

  • mrtapeguy

    No, we do not have to be left with these two choices. It’s time for a change and everyone, regardless of your ideology, should demand the Commission on Presidential Debates include candidates who are on enough ballots to have a mathematical chance to win. That means Americans would actually have a chance to look at other choices and break the cycle of two party exclusivity. If the CPD will not comply, why can’t anyone else host debates?

    Gary Johnson is already polling at 10% against these two pathetic frontrunners and he is a real fiscal conservative, social liberal and military non-interventionist. It’s time for a change.

    • GJ is polling at 10%. Well then, he might actually get 15% of the general vote by the time November 4th arrives and all the counting is in.

      HOWEVER; that still does not beat Clinton or Trump. Unless by some miracle he can actually get equal media coverage, convey his message well (which he is piss poor at doing) and be able to get into a major debate with both HRC & DJT that is the best he will be able to do. Politics is a money game – it always has been and it always will be under current election statutes, and the Libertarian party simply does not have the money supporting it to ever become a player in the US political system at this time and maybe not ever.

      We are stuck with a two-party system unless a miracle happens and Congress passes substantial election reforms. Until then, it is what it is.

      IF the GOP implodes, we MAY have a decade or two of 3 or more political parties before they once again coalesce into two major parties with a few minor parties.

      I refuse to make such a high risk gamble on Trump, and I’m far too much of a realist/pragmatist to entertain the thought of the libertarian party actually winning in November. So that leaves me voting for HRC.

  • Charlie Adaway

    I’m not saying I’d do this but if you wanted to pick up some easy money you could take out a $1mill policy on Bernie
    Just in the FBI has stopped its investigation of Hillary and turned their attention to Huma. It seems they couldn’t find a cankle monitor bracelet big enough…..
    Half the FBI agents investigating Hillary have been reassigned to evaluating Camp David as a minimum security prison for Hillary on weekends.

    Oh yeah I got more….. btw this isn’t sexist humor its criminal humor.

    • IndianaPearl

      Everything you write is criminal.

    • IndianaPearl

      I’ve got more too . . .

  • Jay Trainor

    Unlike Trump, Hillary will compromise. Maybe the country can finally come together to find common ground. That would be an accomplishment, after a tortuous sixteen years of blaming the other party.

    • BCinBCS

      JT: “Maybe the country can finally come together to find common ground.

      The song, Beautiful Dreamer instantly popped into my head when I read this. 😉

  • Pat Griffin

    ERICA GRIEDER, I would quickly nominate you as the most stupid, opinionated, biased
    “reporter” NOT that I have ever had the misfortune to encounter.
    You have taken a good Texas magazine and use it for your personal political advancement.
    SHAME ON YOU, B…….

  • IndianaPearl

    “Donald Trump Is the Harbinger of the Republican Party Apocalypse”:

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/01/28/donald-trump-is-the-harbinger-of-the-rep

    Reason is not a liberal publication.

  • Charlie Adaway

    OK I’m just gonna say it democrats are corrupt…..
    “The Most Transparent Administration Evah™ wants us all to know that it will be happy to comply with Freedom of Information Act requests from the RNC regarding Hillary Clinton’s e-mails. And if the RNC has 75 years to spare, they can reap the benefits of transparency. Earlier this week, the State Department told a court that it would take that long to review e-mails from Hillary and her team to properly release them, making a mockery of both its promises of transparency and the FOIA process.”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/08/state-dept-75-years-to-review-hillary-e-mails-not-an-outlandish-estimation/

    75 years…..morning ma’am is that your penis…….hahaha.

    • BCinBCS

      Ah, and there’s the rub (“morning ma’am is that your penis“). Hillary’s threatens your masculinity!
      .
      .

      • Charlie Adaway

        Why are you looking at porn while at work….does it excite you?

        • BCinBCS

          I’m not the one who got all sticky-fingered and went straight to the subject of porn. What took you there, the picture of Hillary or of the jockey shorts (or both). It probably hit all of your buttons.

          • Charlie Adaway

            Wow hormoneboy you are in a tizzy…..don’t forgit which restroom is for the girliemen….

      • IndianaPearl

        He is an impotent diabetic.

  • Charlie Adaway

    Remember when the paid democrat hack said oil would never be above $50/barrel and the world was ending…..
    “West Texas Intermediate settled at $50.36, up 67 cents, at the New York Mercantile Exchange, ”
    http://pushjunction.com/l/23112

    • BCinBCS

      …the paid democrat hack said oil would never be above $50/barrel…
      Please cite the source of this quote so that I can verify it.

      • Charlie Adaway

        Why are you a reporter?

        • BCinBCS

          As I expected – you can’t cite the source of the quote.

          • Charlie Adaway

            I don’t have to reveal my sources. So throw me in jail….

          • BCinBCS

            The retort of a charlatan.

          • Charlie Adaway

            But you read it, how smart does that make you?

          • IndianaPearl

            My cat is smarter than you.

          • BCinBCS

            Charlie wrote: “But you read it [your retort], how smart does that make you?

            So you think that anyone who is foolish enough to reads your comments is not very smart? So, what does that say about the value of your comments? And what does the value of your comments say about you?

          • IndianaPearl

            Then why should anyone believe your ravings? You’re a compulsive liar.

            Even Louie Gohmert laughs at you.

  • Charlie Adaway

    Dems admit election rigged….
    “”It’s scandalous. It’s absolutely scandalous and it really feeds into what Sanders supporters believe, and quite frankly probably some people on the right who are sick and tired of the establishment that feeds right into it, that this whole thing was rigged right from the beginning,” said prominent Sanders surrogate Nina Turner,”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-not-over-223996#ixzz4B14jUgJd

    Democrat voters are such fools……

    • BCinBCS

      …said prominent Sanders surrogate Nina Turner.
      You really should read (and understand) what you post before using it as a basis for your beliefs.

      • Charlie Adaway

        She’s a dem…how hard is that to understand?

        • BCinBCS

          God you’re dense.

          • IndianaPearl

            Mike McCaul laughs at him.

          • Charlie Adaway

            She’s a democrat, does that help?

        • IndianaPearl

          “Life is hard, very hard, when you’re dumb.”

          A song written about Charlie . . .

  • Charlie Adaway

    Golden Goddess……
    “CNN’s morning show turned Mrs. Clinton into a “golden god.””
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/matthew-balan/2016/06/08/cnn-depicts-history-making-hillary-clinton-glowing-golden-god

    here we go…..

    • IndianaPearl

      The Fort Bend Fatso is in no position to discuss physical appearance.

  • IndianaPearl

    Crazy Charlie is a pathetic loser. Out of 1258 posts since his most recent identity crisis, he he received 39 up votes. That’s right, folks, 1258/39. Worthless . . . everyone laughs at him!

    Mr. W, on the other hand, has received 6575 upvotes out of 8687 posts: 8687/6575.

    • BCinBCS

      Hey Pearl, where did you get those statistics?

      • IndianaPearl

        Click on their “handles.” Disqus shows the numbers. Adaway has a private account so no one can see where he posts, but Mr. W.’s is open. I made my account private a couple of years ago after the incident with Dogs. Don’t know if you were reading BB at that time.

      • dave in texas

        Just hover your mouse over a person’s avatar. It shows number of comments and upvotes and, unless marked as private, will take to the person’s commenting history.

        • IndianaPearl

          I use an iPad, so no mouse.

        • BCinBCS

          Cool. Thanks Dave.

  • IndianaPearl
  • WUSRPH

    You notice that they made Trump use a tele-prompter last night, They wanted to control what he said. I wonder how long they can keep him muzzled before he makes another “Mexican” type remark? Of course when Obama used one the GOPERS made all kinds of slurs about his intelligence, but we know it is different when a Republican does it.

    • Charlie Adaway

      Stop being a racist, do you know how?

      • IndianaPearl

        All we know about racism, sexism, and foolishness we learn from you.

        Pond scum.

    • IndianaPearl

      A white Republican . . .

  • Charlie Adaway

    Stunning new development…..
    “STUNNING NEW DEVELOPMENT!!! MEDIA CALLS TRUMP RACIST”
    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-06-08.html

    Dems are so predictable with nothing new to offer they actually called Trump a racist……..how sad

    • IndianaPearl

      Ann Coulter? You’re really scraping the barrel with that psychopath. Didn’t see date your buddy Dinesh D’Souza, noted adulterer?

  • Charlie Adaway

    Is Hillary the worst dem candidate ever….
    “Trump and Clinton enter their general election faceoff as the two most unpopular major party nominees in decades of available polling. Clinton, specifically, is viewed unfavorably by about 56 percent of Americans, according to an average of polls compiled by RealClearPolitics, compared with just 37 percent who view her favorably — for a net negative rating of 18 points.
    Throughout her public career, Clinton has been embroiled in scandal and engaged in corruption. From her profiting off of cattle futures to the current email controversy, she has conveyed a sense of entitlement, of the normal rules not applying to her. She has surrounded herself with loathsome figures such as Sidney Blumenthal and Sandy Berger. The Clintons’ family foundation was rife with conflicts of interest, serving as a conduit for donors and foreign countries to influence her as secretary of state.”
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-vs.-clinton-americas-dreadful-choice/article/2593304

    So why are dems voting for her…….yep they were told to. How utterly stupid….

  • José

    Erica, I was sort of hoping that you would offer up a reply to my question about whether it was appropriate to call Clinton “paranoid” for her comments about the “vast right wing conspiracy”. It seems that a number of other BB readers agree, given the upvotes. If you can spare the time would you either defend or rescind your characterization of Ms. Clinton, which I find to be unjustifiably dismissive?

  • [email protected]

    TM must be desperate for political nonsense in continuing to allow the anachronistic Burka space to publish his liberal blather in association with its masthead.

  • Charlie Adaway

    Just plain sad….
    “However, it’s possible that Clinton’s biggest obstacle is not her opponent but herself. Fifty-two percent of the American people who participated in a CBS news poll have an unfavorable opinion of Clinton — the highest negative impression of anyone ever nominated by the Democratic party since the poll began in 1984.”
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-evening-news/

    despite having one of the most unlikeable personalities ever dems tell the rubes you will elect her…….

  • Charlie Adaway

    One low information voter while eating tofu and drowning it with gin started a nationwide trend……
    “Deep-Fried Twinkies Are Going Nationwide”
    Her incessant nagging and bashing of deep fried twinkies has driven a whole nation to craving deep fried twinkies.

  • Charlie Adaway

    Hold on to your hats and wallets another market crash is coming
    “After a long hiatus, George Soros has returned to trading, lured by opportunities to profit from what he sees as coming economic troubles.”
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-bearish-george-soros-is-trading-again-1465429163

    Soros who funds most dem politicians makes YYYYYYYYUUUUUUUGGGGGGEEEEEE money when dems crash the markets

    • IndianaPearl

      You didn’t spell it “YUUFFEE” this time.

  • Charlie Adaway

    You ask me how many dems crossed over and voted in the republican primary?
    “So this year Hillary received 1,594,720 FEWER primary votes than in 2008.
    And she lost in 2008!
    Horrible.
    More than 35,029,294 votes were cast in the 2008 Democratic primary.
    So Democrats lost nearly 7 million primary votes this year compared to 2008.”
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/devastating-hillary-clinton-received-1-5-million-fewer-votes-2016-2008-democrats-7-million-votes/

    Now the question is can dems get them back now that they have tasted freedom and are off the dem plantation….

    • IndianaPearl

      No one ever asks you anything other than,”Why haven’t you sought psychiatric care?” or “Why can’t you spell?”

  • Charlie Adaway

    I’ve made 1258 comments here in 20 years

    Wassup, on the other hand,has made 8687 posts in the last 5 years.

    Who do you think is the paid democrat hack? This hack has been on the dem payroll funded by taxpayers most of his life. Cradle to grave…..

    • IndianaPearl

      You’ve had far more than 1258 comments here in 20 years, Einstein. That number is just since you assumed your latest identity of “Charlie Adaway” within the last year.

      Before that you were “John Bernard Brooks” and “Boss Tweed.” I suspect you’ve have had many identity crises before I started reading BB in 2011.

      You’ve used more band width for your incoherent ravings than anyone.

      Dishonest pond scum . . .39 upvotes . . . loser.

      • WUSRPH

        If there is one thing in this world which I do not want it is to be compared to the Troll in any way. Even if the comparison favors me, including me in any way in the same sentence with him is offensive. Some of his vile slime might rub off.

        • She Devil 2016

          Deleted your info . .

  • Ted Thomas Martin

    I agree.

  • IndianaPearl
  • Charlie Adaway

    Democrats want to give you a handout….a guaranteed basic income
    “The Swiss ballot initiative, which isn’t scheduled yet, doesn’t state how big the unconditional stipend would be, but supporters have mentioned 2,500 Swiss francs a month, which is a little under $2,800.”
    Its free say the democrats you don’t gotta do nothing but vote for Hillary…….
    “Swiss voters have overwhelmingly rejected a proposal to introduce a guaranteed basic income for all.
    Final results from Sunday’s referendum showed that nearly 77% opposed the plan, with only 23% backing it.”
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36454060

    The Swiss were too smart they voted it down they knew someone had to pay for it.

    So how does the Obama/Clinton guaranteed basic income for all plan work? First they do away with the SS ponzi scheme FDR foisted on America, yep it has run its course and simply can’t work anymore. So where does the income come from……..”Tax the rich” chimes in the low information voters.
    Nope, after SS is dissolved your 401k will taken over by the State.
    How will they decide who gets what? Simple you silly fool.
    Using IRS data bases, the dems know where every penny you own. They will then share the wealth with their loyal comrades…….. yanno their voters.
    See how the Clinton/Obama share the wealth works.
    But wait where does the 50% go that is taken out of the government handout go? Back to the democrat politicians you silly silly fools.
    See socialism does work…ax Venezuela.

    • IndianaPearl

      39 upvotes. That’s 0.03% of your comments, loser.

  • Charlie Adaway

    I’ve never been paid by the upvote…how does that work?

    • IndianaPearl

      Neither has Mr. W.

  • Charlie Adaway

    Is there a special med for those who wake up with a hangover and a bad personality?
    What makes someone a she devil other than a bad personality…..

    • IndianaPearl

      She Devils rule!

      She Devil for President!

      Drinking a glass of water right now, pond scum, as I prepare a report for BB readers on the Ft. Bend Conservative. It’s pathetic.

  • Franz Samler

    Free Trade should not be (and is not) Conservative dogma. There is no such thing as the fantasy of free trade. The U.S. government finally called out Germany, China and Japan in April for engineering large trade surpluses most of which wind up on our shores. (Hmmm, what politician was loudly calling this into question?) All of them suppress wages and repress their markets and currencies in order to export. Germany and Japan are wealthy countries that have no excuse for beggar-thy-neighbor economic policies. China realizes the limits of an over-investment/export model for rapid development growth and is trying to stimulate domestic demand.

    Global trade imbalances that were allowed to build-up over the last twenty years are the number one reason for not only slow U.S. growth, but global growth as well. The large trade imbalances also acerbate income inequality here and abroad. U.S. fiscal deficits and Fed easing have muted benefit when our trade partners are running record surpluses and are looking for U.S. stimulus to help their exports and their economies. The export countries are weighing heavily on global demand. They need to initiate policies in their own countries to stimulate domestic demand.

    Lastly, it absolutely makes no sense for a U.S. politician to argue and fight for higher wages for unskilled workers while being soft on controlling “illegal” immigration of unskilled workers. This is not racist. This is economics!

  • Looks like crazy woman has finally blown a gasket….hahaha

  • WUSRPH

    See the Troll has reverted to his John Wayne want-to-be persona,

    • John Bernard Books

      aren’t you hiding behind a pseudo?……shhhh crazy woman will hear us

  • BCinBCS

    Why have all of Indiana Pearl and Charlie Adaway’s comments been deleted (not that I miss them)? Who deleted them, BB or themselves? If BB, maybe that will force a return to civility.

    • Beerman

      Not sure, however, the blog on this thread went from 233 comments to 103 comments at the click of a mouse…..it is refreshing.

      • John Bernard Books

        I know

    • BCinBCS

      Since BB is preventing me from replying directly to JBB (Charlie), I will attempt to do an end run.

      JBB, if BB deleted your comments, it was probably due to the fact that they were infantile and a total waste of bandwidth, such as your reply to my post asking what happened to your comments.

      • John Bernard Books

        1. you’d assume wrong.
        2. If you can’t have a civil discussion then don’t comment to me.

        See how ez it is……

        • BCinBCS

          An infantile comment that is a total waste of bandwidth.

          • John Bernard Books

            Then stop it if you’re too infantile…..

          • truffle19

            Wow, you’re as thin skinned as the guy pictured next to your name.

    • John Johnson

      If they had deleted them themselves, it would show “comment deleted”, but I have not scanned the thread to see what you are referencing. No one will miss their junior high slams. If TM removed them…good for them. Maybe we can get this blog back to a meaningful place to share opinions without the scores of posts between the two that the rest of us had to scroll through to get to something meaningful. Both have much to offer. Most of you will disagree. You have heralded Pearl as your standard bearer, and JBB as the devil incarnate. There is a place for both, but you dumplings just don’t get it. He baits you, and you bite.

      • John Bernard Books

        Well they’re not the brightest are they?
        JJ actually I don’t mind having discussions, I just don’t tolerate rude behavior from some….

      • BCinBCS

        JJ, I’m sorry but you keep putting that bait and bite meme out there all of the time. JBB/Charlie simply has an undeveloped mind and is happy to use your excuse to continue his elementary school/junior high school level, mostly inaccurate postings.

        • John Bernard Books

          sorry but you’re becoming a bore, please do not respond to my comments anymore as you seem to have difficulty understanding them.

        • John Johnson

          And your lip has to be sore from biting on that hook so many times.

          • BCinBCS

            Yup, there’s JBB’s elementary school reply and JJ’s meme again.

      • If there were replies to the comment you will see “comment deleted” otherwise they just went poof.

  • BCinBCS

    Erica, I thought that you might like to know that this article was mentioned in the comments section of Lawyer, Guns & Money a fairly liberal blog site. They pointed to it as an example of how conservatives are beginning to realize the danger of electing Donald Trump. The post at LGM is here: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/06/is-implying-that-only-straight-conservative-white-men-can-be-impartial-judges-racist-views-differ#comments

    • John Johnson

      Wow! Imagine that. A liberal blog site tagging Erica’s piece. Expect more to do so. She is a youngster. She is an elitest. She is a believer in establishment politics.

      She makes her living as a bonified “expert”; someone who’s life experiences and ability to put same into words sets her apart.

      The only problem is that her life experiences are limited. She was a military brat, just like I was, but it is there that the similarities end. I moved into the real world; she left the classroom and moved into journalism…not to the battlefields, but to following politicians around.
      People like me went to work for themselves as independent business owners. We know how we are, and have been for years, been getting screwed by our elected reps and the Big’s who keep them in office and provide them million dollar salaries after they retire. Have you noticed how many continue to live in DC and never come “home”?

      I wonder what Erica might be penning if she had ever worked in a factory environment as an hourly employee and had her job eradicated and moved to Mexico or China.

      We are all products of our environment and life’s experiences. Erica’s have been limited. She is what she is.

      • donuthin2

        Hey JJ, what is your rationale for the piece released by USA Today showing that Trump has had a long history of not paying his bills, often beating small businesses out of what they were due for services rendered. Or the many labor violations he has been cited for? He has no moral scruples and is ok with beating anyone out of what they were owed. He is a selfish moron.

        • John Johnson

          Yes. He used every loophole known to man to beat up on people, and his $ allowed him to do so. He is like everyone else…if the law allows it, take advantage of it. If he is hoodwinking us, we’ll know soon enough, but I think he is serious about change. I am willing to gamble. More of the same is not acceptable. If Trump is not elected, nothing is going to change.

          • donuthin2

            No, that is not like everyone else. Many legitimate businesses pay their bills and deliver the goods at a reasonable costs. I was raised by a dad who thought nothing worse could be said about anyone than they would not pay what the owed. I will not do business with those who I think may try to beat me out of what I am owed. In the words of my old Dad, he is a scumbag and deserves nothing. I will definitely take more of the same before voting for Trump.

          • John Johnson

            You make me laugh. Your Dad told you about being cheated. I have lived it. I got caught up in all the airline bankruptcies. I got screwed. Our government makes it legal for corps to cheat us. They made it much tougher for an individual to cheat a Big through bankruptcy. Any guy with enough stroke under a big corporate unbrella would be stupid not to take advantage of what the paid off monkeys in congress do to protect the Big’s. At least Trump, as a Big, is announcing to the world what’s going on. If not him, who?

          • donuthin2

            My God, you are cynical old cooter.

          • John Johnson

            Hahaha. “Cooter”? About five years ago, when Burka actually participated here, he tagged me as an “old codger”. I never disputed his observation. To me, it is a red badge of courage.

          • WUSRPH

            Let me see if I can understand what you are saying and have said about Trump: You have called him a clown, You say he says many things he know he cannot do such as deporting 12 million people. You admit that he has engaged in more than questionable and less than ethical business tactics. You should have some qualms about his personal morals. You admit he knows little or nothing about defense or foreign policy much less most public issues. And on and on BUT because he has never held office and because he says that he is going to CHANGE things with no specifics of what or how you support him. Logical?

          • John Johnson

            No, not really. It just goes to show you how fed up I, and millions of others, are with the status quo. If not now, when? A Hillary presidency means more of the same for decades. The Big’s end up with literally everyone working for them, either directly, or indirectly. We are totally linked into a “World Economic Network” controlled by multi-national corporations who just happen to be based in the U.S. They care nothing about America or the American worker. It is all about the dollar.

          • Beerman

            JJ, no matter whom becomes President, HRC or Trump, the money kickbacks, corruption, cronyism and power egos will continue. What is really interesting and eye-opening to me is the working class voters that have been the most damaged by Corporate America and their lobbying efforts have joined the Trump movement. The working middle-class is getting screwed and they have fallen in love with one of the greedy characters that has always screwed them. It is like a soap-box opera….it blows my mind.
            Our do-nothing congressional prostitutes are where the change needs to happen. Congress is a dysfunctional institution. Congress is made up of career politicians, political lifers who want to live on the government teat and get government pensions, and will do anything to get re-elected. And, if they are not re-elected, they use their position as a stepping stone to seven figure lobbying jobs. Now that is the ultimate crony capitalism. It is clear to me that Trump will fit right in with this crew when he smells the easy money, he is and always has been the ultimate prostitute in his business/lobbying practices. He would be the “big” fox watching the chicken ranch. He has no barriers on his ego and desire for power. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE DOLLAR.

          • BCinBCS

            JJ wrote: “Our government makes it legal for corps to cheat us. I got screwed.

            So you want to vote for the very person who does to others what you hate was done to you? Do you not realize how crazy this makes you sound?

          • John Johnson

            People and corps use every slimy loophole that is available to them. Is that crooked? Nope.

          • BCinBCS

            So you’re saying its okay to cheat and steal as long as it can be excused by some slimy loophole? Man, those are some great ethics that you have there JJ.

          • John Johnson

            Hahaha. If it isn’t against the law, a judge would say it isn’t cheating, wouldn’t he? Your moral outrage makes me chuckle.

        • Beerman

          “When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: Whose?”
          —Don Marquis

          • John Bernard Books

            Some of us aren’t afraid of hard work…..

        • smiavs

          Not to mention the number of times his businesses have gone bankrupt to avoid paying money owed….

      • BCinBCS

        JJ wrote”Imagine that. A liberal blog site tagging Erica’s piece.

        If you had read my post carefully, you would have noticed that I wrote : “They pointed to it as an example of how conservatives are beginning to realize the danger of electing Donald Trump.

        As for the rest of your post, if a person must have the business work experience that you claim in order to make a decision like the one that you have made about Trump, then your claim is demonstrated to be totally wrong.

        • John Johnson

          And I totally disagree with you. How do/did you make your living?

          • BCinBCS

            After working all of my teenage life, I went to college and then worked for many years as a microbiologist. While doing that, I began investing in rental property and now make my living exclusively in RE investment and management. And if you think that I’m not affected by the government, then you have no concept of the regulations governing the real estate and banking business.

          • John Bernard Books

            And so like Trump do you take advantage of the breaks manufactured in our laws?
            Of course you do…..how ironic.

          • John Johnson

            Ah…you’re a slumlord.

          • BCinBCS

            Yea, okay. I see where you’re coming from – anyone who owns rental property is a slum lord. Maybe you should check with some of my tenants before you make such an absurd statement.

          • John Johnson

            Hahaha. Toughen up a little, man.

      • John Bernard Books

        Not only is it a liberal blog it is a terrible one by any standards.

        • BCinBCS

          Then please, please leave. (You would not be missed.)

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems do want to ban guns…
    “Take for example Bonnie Schaefer, a progressive business woman helping to shape the Democrat platform, which will be officially adopted at the DNC convention in Philadelphia. In a moment of honesty during a meeting this week, Schaefer openly declared that not only should guns for criminals be banned, but for everyone.”
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/06/09/woman-shaping-democrat-platform-nobody-should-have-a-gun-n2175750?platform=hootsuite

    People like these are dangerous to all of us.

    • BCinBCS

      Actually, JBB (Charlie) liberals want to see restrictions on gun ownership to lower the incredible loss of life that they cause. Since it is the NRA and the hyper-conservatives who insist on fewer and fewer restrictions, I challenge them – no, I insist – that they come up with a way to make the ownership of guns safer.

      Those of us who want something done about the massacre that occurs in this country are not against guns, we are against those reckless and murderous people who irresponsibly use them to kill thousands and thousands of men, women and children every year.

      If you do not like anti-gun propositions, I insist that you come up with a way to control the death and violence that they cause.

      • John Bernard Books

        I have a way its called enforce our current laws on the books, selective enforcement doesn’t work.
        Other than that all left is allow those of us who want to protect ourselves against criminals, thugs et al with our choice of weapons.
        If you choose not to do so, I’m ok with that.

        • smiavs

          Hillary Clinton, no question.

  • John Bernard Books

    My concern with President Obama endorsing Hillary while being investigated by the FBI, is it could be a conflict of interest. I understand there are some who say she will not be indicted, but what if she did? What kind of message does this send to the American voter?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9W0F2mz1jc#t=2.408671

    • BCinBCS

      Yes! And oh my God what if a meteor came down and hit her in the head? I’m getting an ulcer worrying about an indictment and a meteor. What to do? What to do?

      • John Bernard Books

        I get it you’re a democrat who doesn’t care if Hillary is under investigation by the FBI.
        Some Americans do.

        • truffle19

          Those Americans are sheep, John. Intelligent Americans know that this is a smokescreen and nothing of actual significance.

  • John Bernard Books

    Who was the first woman to run for president in the US?
    “Victoria Claflin Woodhull, later Victoria Woodhull Martin (September 23, 1838 – June 9, 1927), was an American leader of the woman’s suffrage movement. In 1872 Woodhull was the first female candidate for President of the United States.”

    I believe this is called an inconvenient truth.

    • BCinBCS

      Please, please JBB, is there someone that has more than an elementary school education that you can run your ideas by first before you post them? Your math, reading and comprehension skills are severely lacking.

      Hillary Clinton is not being held up as the first woman to be a nominated for President, she is the first woman of a major party to be nominated for President. Sheesh

      • John Bernard Books

        OIC glad we clarified that…….

        • BCinBCS

          Your attempt to poke fun failed miserably.
          Question:
          JBB, what do you have when a political campaign doesn’t pander to liberal women, moderate women, conservative women, as well as, progressive men, moderate men, blacks, Mexican-Americans, Asian-Americans, non-misogynist men and non-racist men and women?
          Answer:
          The Trump Campaign

  • WUSRPH

    I find it rather humorous that some official finally found the Troll to be offensive enough to delete his posts but apparently not bad enough to block him from posting under one of his other known identities, I wonder if he is on some sort of double secret probation..

    • Beerman

      The Troll can’t seem to get the message to get lost….It just seems to make him feel good and righteous to insult and demonize people.

      • John Johnson

        Ignore him. Problem solved.

        • Beerman

          Amen

          • WUSRPH

            yes but leaving in the morning for Wisconsin.

        • John Bernard Books

          JJ you want to be my guest?

          • John Johnson

            Tell him I said hi.

          • John Bernard Books

            Okey Doke

          • Gunslinger

            Are you going to this fundraiser? At what level are you going to donate?

          • John Bernard Books

            I dunno yet, what is a good number? Do you want to go?

      • John Johnson

        Are you in Rochester?

      • John Bernard Books

        Depends on who the messenger is…I don’t listen to or like liars.

    • John Johnson

      Why don’t you quit poking and prodding and enabling? Your thoughtful, knowledgable posts are appreciated even if I disagree on many occasions. We can get personal here without going overboard. It is one of the few blogs that is not so PC that it allows such.

      • John Bernard Books

        He can’t dems need to control

    • John Bernard Books

      some official?

    • I’m fascinated that most of the posts that were deleted as Charlie’s have miraculously reappeared as JBB’s. They’re still just as false and offensive. I am quite curious as to why BB/TM would allow that.

      • John Bernard Books

        Your comment is false, I however do not find it offensive. I merely consider the source.

  • John Bernard Books

    So it is a criminal investigation, I wonder why it took so long for some to admit it?
    “Barack Obama’s spokesman described the FBI’s probe into Hillary Clinton’s classified email scandal as a ‘criminal investigation’ on Thursday, less than an hour after the president endorsed his embattled former secretary of state to succeed him.
    Josh Earnest told reporters during a White House press briefing that Obama was committed to keeping his hands off the investigation, trusting career investigators and prosecutors to follow evidence wherever it leads.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3634074/White-House-calls-FBI-probe-Clinton-s-classified-emails-criminal-investigation-glee-Republicans-day-Obama-endorses-her.html#ixzz4B8odit7A

    Prez Obama’s endorsement does look like he is “hands on.”
    Media asleep on the job again.

    • BCinBCS

      JBB wrote: “Prez Obama’s endorsement does look like he is “hands on.”

      Again JBB!!! What you posted did not say that. Read (and comprehend) what you post before commenting (or have someone do it for you).

      • John Bernard Books

        Actually I did
        “Josh Earnest told reporters during a White House press briefing that Obama was committed to keeping his hands off the investigation, trusting career investigators and prosecutors to follow evidence wherever it leads.””

        I’m not too sure of your reading comprehension skills. By endorsing Hillary he creates a conflict of intrest with his DOJ’s investigation.
        Once again if you can’t be civil then you go on ignore.

  • John Bernard Books

    Erica I was hoping this would be discussed more.
    “Clinton is more conservative than Trump on a number of key issues.”
    You then stated the progressives went to Obama in ’08.
    Who do you think favors big government more Hillary or Trump?
    If you are saying Trump, then yeah that scares me about him,too.
    We absolutely positively do not need more government.

  • John Bernard Books

    I get it I understand that some here don’t want this discussed but it is critical that we discuss all issues about Ms Clinton.
    “The conversation turned to Hillary Clinton’s e-mail scandal and, clearly, Rosen was ready to drop the hammer by raising concerns about the President’s endorsement presenting a conflict of interest since his executive branch (specifically the FBI) is investigating Clinton [emphasis mine]:
    Previously, the President has used one public comment or another to comment on the FBI investigation into Mrs. Clinton and her e-mail conduct. At one point, he stated that as far as he could see, there was no real damage to national security. You yourself, from this podium, have suggested that the investigation wasn’t trending toward any focus on Mrs. Clinton herself. I wonder if you could address for us the potential conflict of interest that might exist when the President of the United States, the head of the executive branch, is openly saying I want this woman to succeed me in the Oval Office and you have other employees of the executive branch, career prosecutors, FBI agents, working this case who have now just heard how the President wants to see this case resolved in essence. Isn’t there some conflict there? ”
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2016/06/09/watch-james-rosen-grill-josh-earnest-endorsements-sanders-comments

    One you have to be impressed with Rosen’s professionalism.
    two there is most definitely a conflict with the prez’s endorsement as Rosen clearly pointed out.

  • Excellent piece Thank you.

    Why do you hate Obamacare?

    • Pat Griffin

      Because it is nothing but another welfare gimmmmmmmme program.
      The working people, tax-paying people, are paying ridiculously higher
      premiums, but the supporters love it because “The Feds” subsidize
      their premiums so heavy they are getting a real bargain, and taxpayers
      be damned.

      • Jed

        every single fact in this sentence is untrue. don’t you get tired of pushing someone else’s lies?

        • Retributer

          Every “fact” in this sentence is a “fact”! Don’t you get tired of demonstrating ignorance?

          • BCinBCS

            Actually, Retributer, Jed is correct,
            You are a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger principle.

          • Jed

            facts can be true or false. but you keep doing you.

  • Drew

    I will NEVER understand liberal logic. Surely you don’t believe Hillary would be good for our country’s future. She is dishonest, a liar, and a criminal. She cost American lives in Benghazi. She is completely corrupt. Obeying laws mean nothing to her. Her Clinton foundation was set up to exchange money for mostly foreign political favor. Her career is rife with scandal. Her credentials to be president are not worth a tinkers dam. She just may be criminally charged before the election. You better pray Trump is elected.

    • BCinBCS

      Drew, I’m tired of rebutting comments here so I’ll simply cut and paste.

      Concerning Bengazhi:
      [In April] The Bengazhi hearing hit its 700th day on Thursday.
      Quote

      …but to put this in context, the 9/11 Commission, investigating every possible angle to the worst terrorist attack in the history of the country, worked for 604 days and created a bipartisan report endorsed by each of the commission’s members.

      The Benghazi committee is now on its 701st day, and even some congressional Republicans have admitted the panel is a partisan exercise, making it that much more difficult to justify its prolonged existence.

      Rep. Trey Gowdy’s (R-S.C.) Benghazi panel has also lasted longer than the investigations into the federal response to Hurricane Katrina, the attack on Pearl Harbor, the assassination of President Kennedy, the Iran-Contra scandal, Church Committee, and the Watergate probe.

      And still there hasn’t been a single conviction, much less an indictment.

      Concerning Hillary’s “scandals”, according to Kevin Drum:
      For the record: Whitewater was a nothingburger. Travelgate was a nothingburger. Troopergate was a nothingburger. Filegate was a nothingburger. The Vince Foster murder conspiracy theories were a nothingburger. Monica Lewinsky was Bill’s problem, not Hillary’s. Benghazi was a tragedy, but entirely nonscandalous. The Goldman Sachs speeches were probably a bad idea, but otherwise a nothingburger. Emailgate revealed some poor judgment, but we’ve now seen all the emails and it’s pretty obviously a nothingburger. Humagate is anothingburger. Foundationgate is a nothingburger.

      And finally concerning Hillary being a liar:

      • Drew

        The Bengazhi investigation lasted so long because Clinton, the State Department and Obama were uncooperative. The did everything possible to hamper and hinder the investigation.

        The “nothingburger” assessments were nothing but liberal denial.

        The polling information isn’t current.

        Someone who cannot handle intelligence information appropriately cannot be commander-in-chief, and someone who lies to the families of those four victims in Benghazi cannot be president of the United States.”

        • BCinBCS

          Drew wrote: “The Bengazhi investigation lasted so long because Clinton, the State Department and Obama were uncooperative.

          So now that the inquiries are done, where are the indictments?

          “The polling information isn’t current.

          Do you have more recent polling that refutes this data?
          (Oh, I didn’t think so.)

          • John Johnson

            Who’s not telling the truth? The families or Hillary? Who’s lying? We all know the answer. There is 13 minutes of her lying in her own words on YouTube for all to see. Go take a look.

    • Jed

      “I will NEVER understand liberal logic.”

      there is only one kind of logic. and you’re right, you will never understand it.

  • Drew

    Surely you don’t believe Hillary would be good for our country’s future. She is liar and a criminal. She cost American lives in Benghazi. She is completely corrupt. Obeying laws mean nothing to her. Her Clinton foundation was set up to exchange money for mostly foreign political favor. Her career is rife with scandal. Her credentials to be president are not worth a tinkers dam. She just may be criminally charged before the election. You better pray Trump is elected

    • truffle19

      Hillary on her worst day is less corrupt than Trump on his best. He’s just a con man in a red tie.

      • Drew

        Please list incidents of Trump’s corruption. If not your supposition is meaningless.

        • Oh where to begin…

          Not paying his bills, bilking people out of their homes, deliberately bankrupting his business so he could file bankruptcy so he wouldn’t have to pay on the loans, the fact that he can’t keep a single promise whether it is a marriage vow, a business agreement or a campaign promise, he’s been caught in more lies by politifact than any other candidate this cycle…

          That’s just the tip of the iceberg. And if that wasn’t enough, he’s also a racist and a misogynist. It does not matter how many women and minorities he employs. If it were for the EEO act he probably would have any in his employ at all.

          • Drew

            Shelly yours is a typical liberal response, just suppositions and no facts. I’m sorry but I don’t think you can handle the truth.

          • truffle19

            Drew, what Shelly brought up has been pretty thoroughly reported on. Feel free to look it up. On the other hand, what you just wrote was a memorable line from a movie.. Congrats, I guess.

          • Everything I listed is well documented and recent, USA Today, NYT, Washington Post, Atlantic, New Republic, etc.

            You can deny it, Trump can deny it, yet there are currently over 130 active lawsuits against Trump and there have been hundreds more going back to the seventies. Most either settled or dropped because the people he cheated were buried under his money machine.

            Trump has declared bankruptcy 3 or 4 times and considers it a valid business tool rather than an option of last resort.

            And talk about a typical response – label it liberal, sneer at the truth, because it doesn’t fit the narrative you’ve bought into.

            I’m not a liberal, I’m not a conservative either. I am a realist, a pragmatic and practical person who does not buy into overblown hysteria or hype. I don’t believe in political parties at all. I have been called just about every name conceivable and it doesn’t bother me a bit. It just shows how insecure, fragile, and threatened those who resort to name calling are.

          • BCinBCS

            Shelly, you’re my hero.

            An interesting addition to what you listed is the fact that Trump has been reported (mainly in one of the financial magazines (the name I don’t remember)) to transfer his personal debt to his enterprises prior to their bankruptcies.

            I think that the fact that Trump uses bankruptcies as a tool rather than an act of last resort explains why last month he said that he could get the U.S. out of debt by renegotiating what is due on Treasury Note payments. In an interview about it by CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin he said “…look, I have borrowed, knowing that you can pay back with discounts. And I have done very well…

          • Thank you BC.

        • truffle19

          Trump U. Well, that was easy.

        • Jed

          the entire internet is one big list of his corruption.

          are you asking for a copy and paste of the whole internet, or can you do your own google search?

          • BCinBCS

            Whatcha want to bet that all of the many replies to his request for examples of Trump’s corruption will not change Drews mind about Trump?

  • Ed_Stark

    Cute. Liberals who have no idea how conservatives think or what conservatives really want, talking about why we would support their candidate.

    You’re all grossly ignorant if you think she stands a snowball’s chance for the conservative vote. The conservatives will turn out in droves to see Schillary defeated.

    The thing is, I’m a pretty Libertarian-minded conservative. I’d be willing to vote for a Democrat who came out staunchly supportive of the 2nd Amendment. Too bad your platform is as hampered by fantasies of disarming Americans as the R platform is hampered by the evangelical fantasies about theocracy.

    You’re all the same. None of you respect ALL the rights of ALL Americans. You all disgust me. Look in the mirror, you are what you hate.

    • Jed

      “None of you respect ALL the rights of ALL Americans”

      as a self-proclaimed libertarian, neither do you. by definition.

      “You all disgust me.”

      back atcha.

    • donuthin2

      The so called conservatives don’t even know what they think or what they want. They are a sad lot for sure. No clue of really what conservative means. Dumb, dumb and dumber.

      • Jed

        “The so called conservatives don’t even know what they think or what they want. They are a sad lot for sure. No clue of really what conservative means. ”

        i don’t really blame them. i recently edited a book on conservatism, with chapters written by a dozen or so conservative scholars, and after reading those 500 pages (a half dozen times) i still don’t think i could tell you what *they* think conservatism is.

        as far as i can tell, conservatives only know what conservatism *isn’t* (godless, socialist, pacifist, etc etc).

    • Beerman

      What do conservatives really think and/or really want? A viable question to consider.

      Libertarianism is a belief in the rights of the individual to make their own decisions and be left alone. Conservativeism is a belief in specific sets of rules for how to live, and many conservatives want to impose those rules on society. Authoritarianism (Trump) is the policy or practice of unquestioning obedience to the authority of a dictator or a dictatorial group.

      These are fundamentally opposing governing philosophies, yet the vast majority of libertarians, authoritarians and conservatives bow to the Republican Party?

      Do all Republicans really know what they want? Maybe YOU should be the person to look in the mirror?

  • Pat Griffin

    Looks like the editing gremlins got my last message, Erica, so I will tone
    it down a little. How did such a biased reporter get a job with the Texas
    Monthly Magazine, “the National Magazine of Texas”, and also in a
    Republican state.
    We have been subscribers to Texas Monthly forever, and just can’t figure
    what happened. Must have had a dramatic editorial change to the LEFT.

    • Jed

      maybe the centripetal forces of the earth’s turntable pushed you off the right edge of the earth and you didn’t notice. has reality started to look further away to you?

      national review and the economist will be saddened to learn that one of their contributors is a leftist.

    • Drew

      Cancelling my subscription

      • Jed

        the internet will miss you.

    • John Johnson

      You must not have been around here very long if you think Erica is the epitome of liberal. She is not a leftie; she just hates Trump. She also appears to be blind to how the bi-political mega corps and their money are controlling both parties, and will for decades if a “radical” like Trump is not elected. If not him, who; if not now, when?

      • WUSRPH

        When? When you have a candidate who at least knows something about the issues and who does not present a real threat to the principle of “a nation of law, not men” and who does not display dangerous authoritarian tendencies. Which means not this year. Come back and try again in 2020 with perhaps Sasse,

        • John Johnson

          You are just as clueless as the others. Who is going to fund Sasse’s campaign against the establisment’s candidates and their money?

          • WUSRPH

            You and the millions who agree with you,,..just like Bernie;s campaign was funded. It is a little harder but he proved that it can be done,

          • Jed

            “just like Bernie’s campaign was funded. It is a little harder but he proved that it can be done.”

            except he lost.

          • WUSRPH

            So will JJ’s candidate…but Bernie has shown that you can raise substantial funds without relying on the Bigs JJ detests so much. It can be done….it just will not be easy.

        • Beerman

          Interesting read from a long time Republican operative:

          Peter Wehner: The Indelible Stain Of Donald Trump
          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/opinion/campaign-stops/the-indelible-stain-of-donald-trump.html

          • BCinBCS

            Beerman, in that article by Paul Wehner in The Times I found an interesting juxtaposition of history and present time where I had not given enough thought to the long term consequences:

            In 1956 the Republican nominee, Dwight D. Eisenhower, won nearly 40 percent of the black vote. In 1960, Richard Nixon won nearly a third. Yet in 1964, in large part because of his opposition to the Civil Rights Act, Barry Goldwater (who was no racist) won only 6 percent. More than a half-century later, that figure has remained low. Mr. Trump — through his attacks against Hispanics that began the day he announced his candidacy — is doing with Hispanics today what Senator Goldwater did with black voters in the early 1960s.

            I realized the extent of the possible damage but not the length of time that damage might manifest itself.

            Also observant was this statement by Wehner:

            Republicans have not changed Mr. Trump for the better; he has changed them for the worse. So here we are, with Republicans who lined up behind Mr. Trump now afraid of being led off a high cliff.

          • Beerman

            BC,

            Republicans can’t change Mr. Trump for the better; he has changed them for the worse.

            It reminds me of a reading from the author, Thomas Wolfe, recalling a visit to Germany during the 1930’s: “Here was an entire nation, infested with the contagion of an ever-present fear. It was kind of creeping paralysis which twisted and blighted all human relations.”

          • BCinBCS

            Watch out Beerman, you know how history is frowned upon by many on this site.

  • Robert B

    People don’t seem to realize that Trump is the “burn this b**** down” candidate. People are mad as hell at the Republican party; the veil is off and they can see that the Democrat and Republican insiders support each other more than they do America. The more people like McCain and Romney and Graham rant about Trump, the stronger he gets.

    I don’t like Trump, but I think he loves America. I think that’s refreshing; I plan to vote for him just for that.

    • truffle19

      Trump loves the red, white and blue, all right. His red tie, his white shirt, his blue blazer. In other words, Trump cares about Trump and only Trump. That has been clear for decades.

  • Ponderosa

    If Hillary is elected it might lead to secession, … and not only Texas.

    • Jed

      win win!

    • Drew

      Amen

    • truffle19

      Good riddance.

      • Ponderosa

        We hear that all of the time from people who apparently have no tolerance for our differences. That is your right and I respect that. Who wants to be where they are not wanted? It has its effects. Not so much pain but we prefer to not be a burden on others.

        If there is anything you can do to help, please do. The last time states tried to leave, they were killed, any means of sustaining themselves was destroyed, and it didn’t do the North a helluva loto f good either.

        All we want to do is leave and live as we wish according to the US Constitution that has been puled from beneath our feet.

        We prefer to make our own living and have a reduced government and more freedom to succeed or fail and be responsible for it.

        We can live next to each other just fine but do not like others telling us how to live.

        • Jed

          did you just threaten secession and then turn around and lecture someone else on tolerance?

          • gordo

            Let him go. Texas has the ability to split into five states. He and his like minded people can have one. Course, they are going to end up with one with no major metropolitan area, no economy, no currency, and no way to interact with any one else in the world. How long before they come crawling back on their empty bellies begging for Welfare benefits?

          • BCinBCS

            Hadn’t really thought about splitting only one part of Texas for them. What part should it be?

          • gordo

            Dunno. Certainly not going to be West Texas, or the border region. Too many veterans or parents of service members to countenance breaking away. Same for San Antonio and its environs. Not gonna be Dallas or Houston-too many economic ties to the US to take the risk. And the secessionists surely don’t want them libruls in Austin. And the farmers and ranchers in the Panhandle rely too much on subsidies and markets from the US government. That leaves East Texas, which I am not as familiar with. Think the good folks in Tyler and Texarkana want them? Nah, prolly not. Too many veterans up there, too.. With their own guns, too.

          • BCinBCS

            Come to think of it, Gordo, the red-necks in East Texas might want to partner up with them a break off a piece of Texas for themselves.

          • Ponderosa

            No, sorry you read that in.

            We do not want to leave because we have a hard time tolerating others. I thought I made the concept clear in the first paragraph.

            I asked for cooperation and help BECAUSE we continually hear, mostly from “blue states” that we are not wanted.

            Did you not read the “Good riddance” words I responded to?

            We want to leave because the document that we entered the Union by is not adhered to. Our contract with the Union has effectively been cancelled. The US Constitution is indeed a living document that can change with the times. The means are included in the document itself. It is not easy for a reason. On reason is to avoid “mob rule”, another is that our founders wisely ensured that any change had to be the desire of a substantial majority of the people.

            Executive orders circumvent Congress. So what? Simple. Congress is our, We The People’s, representation. Executive orders are common enough but when their nature affects basic laws and rights of our country, treaties, international commerce, involvement of our military without declaration of war, and many, our restroom culture, the things we must purchase for our own use, using The UN as a governing body affecting US citizens, failure to execute existing laws, denying public access to important records, and many, many other things. Our president has denied The People’s right to representation through executive order. If Congress does not do what the POTUS wants then that is the way it is. It is through representation, The People’s will. We are a representative republic.

            Read our founding documents including our Declaration of Independence and see what liberty our forefathers sought independence from.

            Mexico had a constitution that was modeled after The US Constitution, drafted after Mexico fought for and won her Independence from Spain in 1824. Prior to that, Mexico was populated by natives, overrun and interbred with Spaniards, and finally sought her own freedom. Sound familiar?

            Santa Anna a popular general in that war was made president. in the years leading up to 1936 when Texas won her independence from Mexico, Santa Anna basically trashed their constitution.

            Maybe it is because it has not been as long since our people fought for freedom and we remember better than some, the sacrifices made for us to live as we wish. That is OK with us. We only want to separate peacefully and make our own decisions and you, yours. Live and let live, decisions at the lowest possible level, liberty!

            I hope that makes my stance easier to understand. We can tolerate anyone as long as he does no harm to another. In such cases we have ordinary consequences that may ensue and of course the courts.

            It seems The US is now the opposite of a democracy. The majority does not rule. Individual and special interests rule now in The US, regardless of the impact on the majority.

            All said and done, we are all happy I will not do anything to affect your rights except help you defend them. As for me … “Don’t tread on me!”

          • Jed

            so you object to rule by special interest minority groups but want the south’s (minority) perspective honored, or you’ll take your ball and go?

            thank for clarifying.

          • Ponderosa

            No amount of clarification seems to be adequate for you.

            You seem to have some bent upon putting words in my mouth, assuming my intentions, and generally disrespecting my opinion.

            Apparently my one of 300,000,000 opinion hits some kind of nerve that prompts what I regard as your sophomoric trivialization.

            The South, were it to secede would be a majority in itself as would The North. I simply contend that we have become less and less related in culture, morals, politics, and so many other things that to continue only weakens the Union. Obviously, The North has such contempt for The South that it continues to try to change those who only want the freedoms guaranteed in our makeup, our US Constitution.

            In my humble opinion (though humble and easy enough for anyone disagreeing to simply disregard and move on, seems to hold you captive) we are different enough that a separate “pursuit of happiness” might be more successful for all.

            I have said my piece and you have only contributed insult, sarcasm, and mockery, through trite, snippy comments. I hope that those who think on a bit higher plane of consciousness will benefit from what has been said by myself and by you. As for you and any more benefit that might come from my efforts, I choose to move on.

            click

  • TheRealBillybob

    “Clinton is more psychologically stable than Trump.”

    No one really needs to read much further than this when one considers Hillary has declared she imagines speaking to the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt when she was in the White House!

    “Mrs. Clinton herself wrote about her imaginary conversations
    with Eleanor Roosevelt in her June 10 column. She said she
    talked to Roosevelt about the role of a first lady.

    “She usually responds by telling me to buck up, or at least
    to grow skin as thick as a rhinoceros,” Mrs. Clinton wrote.”

    • Beerman

      Kind of like God coming in the middle of the night and telling Rick Perry’s wife that he should run for President?

      Or

      Ted Cruz’s father having a visit with God, and being told that his son was the Messiah?

      Evidently, God and Eleanor Roosevelt have great senses of humor…….

  • Retributer

    They only thing more stupid than this article are most of the comments that follow it. Erica, every one of the six points were pulled out of your tuchus and rationalized. Those that vote for Hillary are stupid, ignorant, freeloading, EVIL or dead! Oh, and yes, she brings with her a degenerate dirt bag husband, and she has demonized all of the women he raped, assaulted and/or exploited!

    • Beerman

      Lots of fear and anger in these remarks. “Us versus them” is a scary place to be. It hurts our national pride, destroys communities and damages the strength of our democracy. Where is the civility?

      We can’t, as a democracy, change to the point where we view those who disagree with us as enemies. Now, that is real EVIL……..

      • truffle19

        You missed ignorance. Equal parts Fear, Anger and Willful Ignorance.

  • John Bernard Books
  • Raxtoren

    Only people who would vote for Hillary is women and lefties.
    Hillary will flood the country will illegals, make them citizen and gain 10% more voters, this is what they always do, this is what is happening in Europe already.
    Each country just let in 3% mulsims, that is 3% more voters for the left, rinse and repeat and they win every election while rape and theft keep rising

    • BCinBCS

      As I stated before:
      And as far as your claim that immigrants tend to vote Democratic (after they have worked hard to obtain citizenship and voting rights), I would propose that the solution to that would be for the Republican party to offer policies that would make them want to vote Republican.

  • John Bernard Books

    Trump has clearly stated we need to vet Muslims, dems say he’s racist…..
    “Mateen had committed himself to ISIS before carrying out the bloodiest mass murder in US history at a gay nightclub in Orlando on Sunday, federal officials said. Mateen “made a pledge of allegiance to ISIS,” California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told CNN.”
    http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/suspected-gunman-in-florida-gay-club-mass-shooting-idd/

    I wonder how the WH will spin this?

  • John Bernard Books

    Will Americans get it right the second time….
    “Because this second test comes from Hillary Clinton, and also involves probable criminal actions, it is imperative that we get it right this time. The nation is still paying a big price for getting it wrong in 1999.
    By beating charges of which he was clearly guilty, Bill Clinton proved that equal justice is an ideal, not a fact. He was acquitted of perjury and obstruction because he was too big and popular to convict over actions that grew out of a sex scandal.”
    http://nypost.com/2016/06/11/americas-second-chance-to-prove-clintons-arent-above-the-law/

    Hell they even caught OJ, maybe the Clintons next……

  • John Bernard Books

    The money trail….
    “On Friday it was reported by ABC News that Mr. Fernando was placed “on a sensitive government intelligence board even though he had no obvious experience in the field.” Fernando, who gave enough to the foundation to travel to with Bill Clinton to Africa, was on the International Security Advisory Board along with “an august collection of nuclear scientists, former cabinet secretaries and members of Congress.”

    Why? Well, that’s what ABC wanted to know back in 2011. When it asked, newly released State Department emails reveal that the reporters were stalled while Fernando and Mrs. Clinton’s office were looped in. Fernando’s decision to resign came four days after the first ABC inquiry as to what a specialist in electronic high frequency trading was doing on a panel debating nuclear proliferation and the risks of nuclear weapons and which included such senior statesmen of that very specialized, very technical, very classified world as Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft (ret.) a former national security advisor and William Perry, a former secretary of defense.”
    and
    “Steven Hayward of Power Line, one of the blogs that pioneered investigative blogging, put together a summary of the Laureate International Universities’ facts, the most important three of which are that Bill Clinton served as the organization’s “honorary chancellor” between 2010 and 2014, that he was paid $16.5 million to do so (good work if you can get it). The Department of State granted Laureate $55 million while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. Go figure.”
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/with-clintons-always-follow-the-money/article/2593686

    wink….wink

  • Marc Miller

    I support neither candidate. Hillary is a crook and Trump is well…Trump.

  • Bill Chinitz

    Trump is the poisonous intoxicant that was distilled from the Republican sour mash.

  • Dante Carlinos

    I do not believe you are even Texan. Democratic Presidents and governors have consistently harmed the citizens of the greatest place in the world, TEXAS. Sam Houston said it best; “If it’s not in Texas, why bother?”. It has been part of my life’s work to understand the effective politics of Texas. The Top Three Worst governing individuals that have effected the citizens of Texas are in this order. 1) Barack Obama, 2) Ann Richards 3) Bill Clinton.

    Hillary Clinton has connections to all three. I know this woman’s history. The factual history of Lies, Fraud, Corruption, Deception, Murder and Cover Ups. This Woman is a paid shill for the same Radicals that have been killing people here and abroad. She is an Elitist of the ‘Caliber’ of Marie Antoinette and the Czars of Russia; “The people don’t have enough to even eat a morsel of bread? Let them eat cake”. She has only been about Personal Financial Gain.

    I do not speak as a right wing nut job. Nor am I Conspiracy Theorist. I am a Pure Historian. I have two PhD’s in Texas History and Two in American History. I believe in a American First Mentality that built this country. I believe in a Texas First Mentality that sustains this country. Without the greatness of the USA/Texas bond I estimate that over 850,000 citizens of the world would have been killed by Radicals, Dictators, Military Degenerates, and strictly insane Powers of Governance. Giving Ms. Clinton the full power and potential of the United States not only devastating to the State of Texas, but the U.S. and the world as a whole.

    How ANYBODY can possibly believe that Ms. Clinton would be a benefit to Texas over someone who CAN”T be bought, boggles the mind.

    And that is THE COMPLETE TRUTH.

    • Bill Chinitz

      Brilliant satire.

      • donuthin2

        Hope so, I guess I have gotten so cynical I overlooked the satire intended. I just thought he was deranged.

        • One post I could maybe call satire, but three? and as poorly written as they are…

    • ” I have two PhD’s in Texas History and Two in American History.”

      For a total of four PhD’s? I’m sorry but I’m going to call BS. Especially when you partake in revisionist history and can’t even get details of world history correct that one would expect of someone who claims to have earned four PhD’s in history. All with a brand new account and 1 comment total.

      Which makes your final claim of complete truth a complete lie.

    • donuthin2

      And the crazy just got crazier.

    • BCinBCS

      Dante, you say you have two Ph.D.’s in Texas history and two in American history.
      Oh my God, from where?

      • Beerman

        TRUMP UNIVERSITY……….

        • BCinBCS

          Beerman, of all of the posters on BB, you have, without a doubt, the sharpest wit.
          Well done!

    • Beerman

      THE COMPLETE TRUTH is that your posting is a non-stop litany of half-truths, untruths and fear mongering highlighting intellectual incoherence and unadulterated BS.

      If you are really as educated as you claim, then Texas truly has an educational problem as reflected in your remarks.

  • Dante Carlinos

    Erica enjoys in discussing hyperboles. Not indicative facts. She is know as a Elitist. In 27 separate public statements in here lifetime she has stated that she considers Texas as insignificant. Fact not Hyperbole.

    Fact. She is a Democrat. She will follow the Democratic Special Interest Mentality. Because that is where the cash flows. And the Clintons are Strictly about the cash flow…to themselves. Our conversation is about the benefit of Texas. The last Eight Years of This Dictatorial Democrat Regime has been devastating to Texans.
    Allow me to bring to discussion facts not additional HYPERBOLE.

    Fact 1) Had the extensive job explosion that happened in Texas during the previous 10 years, there would have been NO job growth in the U.S. The responsible parties? Free Enterprise, Fracking, and the Intense and constant work of Republican Governor Rick Perry to build Business in Texas.

    Fact 2) The average cost of Heath Care to the Average Texas Individual has increased 42% Since the passing PPACA (Obamacare).

    Fact 3) The Average “Impoverished Texan” Ratio to the general population has raised 11 percent since Obama was elected.

    Fact 4) The Recurrence Tax Dollar Percentage, the amount Texas receives in Benefits to the amount we send to the federal government, has hit an all time low since the 81 year record has been kept. In the years of the Obama Administration it has gone from 61% to an all time low of 44%.

    You can not deny these facts. These are public records if you are willing to open your eyes and look for them. Fact.

    THIS IS THE COMPLETE TRUTH
    [email protected]

    • For someone who claims to have four PhD’s, your spelling and grammar are atrocious. I can’t even take you seriously.

    • BCinBCS

      Dante, you stated your 4 “facts” earlier and I showed how they are false.
      I invite you to produce facts, as have I, rather than hyperbole.

  • Dante Carlinos

    “She” in the previous Post relates to Ms.Clinton.

  • WUSRPH

    Heading home on Wednesday. Hope there is a new thread by then. Wonder why the anti-gays have been silent on the Orlando shooting? Seems to be more one of their crew than an regular Arab terrorist. I hope that Patrick’s comments were truly by accident. I hate to think he could by that callous even though his prior comments suggest a hostility toward gays.

    • donuthin2

      Patrick is that callous, but without much substance. He and his ilk bear some of the responsibility for the hostility that we are experiencing with their race baiting, gay hatred, and general insensitivity. They pretend to be religious, but have no religious principles.

    • Beerman

      An interesting future thread subject would be an investigation by EG/TM regarding the problems with school testing vendor Educational Testing Service and their $280 million contract with the State. It might be eye-opening to learn how they got that huge contract, and following the trail of campaign money involved could be very embarrassing to some present and past State political leaders?

  • Marc Dunkelberg

    I’ve been telling people for over a year that Hillary is the best republican in the race.

  • Oliver Churchill

    Clinton is a walking attraction for grand juries everywhere, whether it is her tenure as Secy of State, Benghazi, her relationship with Vince Foster, the Clinton Foundation an its financial web, or any other series of financial transactions with which they have been involved. Thanks, but no thanks, Texas Monthly.

  • Anton Chigurh✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

    For a closeted liberal writer to try to sell conservatives the nightmarish Clinton in this magazine is a joke.

    But the bigger joke is all the fake-conservative cucks who would vote Clinton over Trump. I’m sorry to see so much cuck in this magazine, which I used to like.

    • BCinBCS

      You used to like the cucks or Texas Monthly?

      • Anton Chigurh✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        I used to like a lot of their feature articles and never realized just how cucked they are in their sad attempt to speak for all Texans and show everyone how “cool and liberal” Texas is.

        • donuthin2

          Sounds as though you have been a cuck for the right wing media nuts that are largely responsible for much of the craziness that is going on. We are seeing the results of their hate spewing over the last several years. And yes, I am one of those fiscally conservative republicans that will vote for Hillary as I hope and expect many rational republicans will also. I am certainly not enthusiastic about voting for Hillary, but she has much better leadership potential than Trump has.

          • Anton Chigurh✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            LOL you don’t understand the meaning of the word “Cuck” because you are the definition of one. You’re worse than a libtard–you’re a weaselly coward and deserve to be squished like a bug for helping to dismantle our country. Have a great day, abhorrent little bug.

  • John Bernard Books

    With a weaker candidate than in ’08 dems say its time for a wedge issue…
    “Everyone knew this was coming from the moment that news broke about the shooting in Orlando. Rather than deal with another example of radical Islamist terror and the failure of our security systems to prevent an attack — even with clear danger signs from Omar Mateen — the focus for the media would fall on the weapon. The usual activists in the Senate Democratic caucus plan to make another push for gun control as early as tomorrow, including a possible return of the so-called “assault weapons” ban:”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/13/senate-dems-this-is-a-perfect-time-to-take-up-gun-control-again/

    I don’t think they need a wedge issue this time, dem voters will vote for Hillary even if indicted

  • John Bernard Books

    Can Trump stop deadly ignorance?
    “‘The days of deadly ignorance will end, and they will end soon’ if he is elected president, Trump pledged.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639512/Trump-tears-Clinton-Orlando-says-attacks-prove-man-protect-Americans-including-gays-Muslims.html#ixzz4BY93QuOK

    No
    “Hillary Clinton said Monday she’s not afraid to say “radical” Islam as she countered attacks from Donald Trump that she’s too politically correct to use the phrase.”

    It took 7+ years and hundreds of terrorist attacks in the US to get one democrat to utter those words……

  • John Bernard Books

    Hillary is under criminal investigation
    “A former information technology aide to Hillary Clinton received immunity from the Justice Department in connection with a criminal investigation, a federal judge confirmed Tuesday.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-judge-investigation-224314#ixzz4BZWssG1y

    Will you vote for her…if so why?

  • John Bernard Books

    This what failed leadership looks like…
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/14/bolton-rips-obama-radical-islam-comments-small-man-whos-never-been-qualified

    Do you want 4 more years of failed leadership?

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems and planned parenthood lose again….
    “Judge Diane Bull’s swift dismissal of the bogus charge against CMP founder David Daleiden of trafficking human organs is the latest confirmation that the indictments from a runaway grand jury in Houston were a politically-motivated sham all along. In finding that the indictment was void on its face, Judge Bull’s ruling directly contradicts the District Attorney’s argument that the indictment was valid despite the DA’s collusion with Planned Parenthood.”
    http://www.lifenews.com/2016/06/14/david-daleiden-vindicated-as-judge-dismisses-charges-against-him-for-exposing-planned-parenthood/

  • WUSRPH

    On the road again…..hope for a new thread and less posts by the Troll in his old person.

    • BCinBCS

      Hurry home.
      Have a safe trip.

    • John Bernard Books

      The paid government informant is off topic as usual and not missed.

  • John Bernard Books

    Here’s an example of why democrats are not elected to statewide office in Texas.
    ““You either have to have higher registration fees to cover the cost of the DMV … or you have to fund them out of the general fund,” said Dallas County Tax Assessor/Collector John Ames, a Democrat. “You guys pick. Because one way or another it’s going to come from taxpayers.””
    http://pushjunction.com/l/23196

    Dems never consider the obvious, “cut the bloated bureaucracy.” I was fortunate enough to visit my local Tax Assessor Patsy Schultz’s agency recently and there was 3 people at the windows, two were asleep or playing on the internet, 10 employees were on break. This group currently get 20+ paid holidays a year and Schultz currently has a request for more employees…….and yes there was a long line.

  • Ken Gibbons

    I was going to subscribe to Texas Monthly, until I saw this. You forget what Clinton represents – socialism, sellout to the highest bidder, gutting the second amendment, among many many other issues. I’m no fan of Trump – I voted and still support Cruz. I will, however, NEVER vote for a Clinton. “Conservative Case” is a laughable title.

    • donuthin2

      No, it is a very pragmatic article. Long term, conservatives, republicans and our country will be better off with Hillary. She allows us to live for another day, whereas Trump will do far more permanent damage to the Republican party and the country. Yeah, Erica gets it with her post.

      • John Johnson

        Bull feathers.

    • Kozmo

      “Socialism,” har-har-har! That’s rich. Not only how so many people still have a knee-jerk reaction to that old bogeyman term, but how Hillary would be regarded as a very Conservative politician in any European country where genuine socialism/democratic socialism is practiced.

  • RuthAnn J

    A write in. That’s the only acceptable vote I can make for the presidential nominee…Hillary- NEVER. Trump- What were you thinking? Neither will serve anyone except themselves. And both have the potential to make a devastating impact on the future of America- on the future of our world. We are witnessing political insanity.

  • jadedhaven

    Why bother keeping Burka Blog alive if nobody gives a damn to update it on a regular basis?

    • John Johnson

      They will just let it die from inactivity rather than announcing that they are shutting it down. The truth is…it’s already dead.

      • WUSRPH

        You keep hoping that is the case, but somehow it seems to revive itself.

        • John Johnson

          Revive itself? You, Charlie, and the now absent Pearl providing 75% of the posts, a handful of semi-regulars about 20%, and Newbies 5% or so? Compare this site to when it first started. It’s dead; you just don’t know it.

          • dave in texas

            Did Pearl remove herself or was she banned?

          • John Johnson

            I have no idea. My guess is that the two of them got their hands slapped and she hooked’em. The whole word is against women, you know…or at least that was so in Pearl’s world.

          • dave in texas

            There are in fact places where are at a disadvantage. This ain’t one of them.

          • John Bernard Books

            I banned her.

          • John Bernard Books

            JJ you don’t understand Wassup. This blog isn’t about discussion for Wassup. Its about spreading his propaganda even if no one reads it.

  • John Bernard Books

    Put him in jail next to Holder and Hillary….
    “The Resolution expresses the sense of the House that Mr. Koskinen engaged in a pattern of conduct inconsistent with the trust and confidence placed in him as an Officer of the United States, urges Mr. Koskinen’s resignation or removal, and requires forfeiture of his government pension and any other federal benefits for which he is eligible.”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/15/house-oversight-committee-votes-to-censor-irs-commissioner/

  • WUSRPH

    Everything is up-to-date in Kansas City….too bad it isn’t with the BB.

    • BCinBCS

      Hey, W, are you back?

      • WUSRPH

        friday

    • John Bernard Books

      The BB is in good shape, we did some house cleaning while you were gone. Enjoy the new site and follow the rules.

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems have this need to control every aspect of your life. The events in Orlando are being blamed on the gun manufacturers not a terrorist. Democrats are demanding new gun control laws.

  • John Bernard Books

    Democrats and their friends want more gun control…..

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems have hi jacked the word diversity fooling their voters into believing their goal is to unite but their real goal is to divide. Watch as they hi jack a vigil for the Orlando victims and turn it racial….
    “Carl Brizendine, who was there with his husband Daniel, then spoke up: “We are here to be uniting, not dividing, which is what you are doing now.””
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/15/mizzou-activist-makes-anti-white-comments-orlando-vigil-causing-gay-couple-walk-out

    Divide divide divide its the dem way.

  • John Bernard Books

    If you haven’t heard Trump will soon be opening up Trump News Network….
    “Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, already owns a TV-production business, according to the publication. But as his bombastic campaign-trail sound bites continue to win him airtime, he may be working on an outside project: a possible “Trump News” cable empire, sources told Vanity Fair.”
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/16/trump-is-reportedly-working-on-a-self-titled-cable-news-network.html

    and yes I will be running the featured blog…..here.

  • hookemowls

    Hillary is bought and paid for by foreign governments and special interests. She has proven herself a liar again and again and again. Corrupt, unethical, greedy, power hungry……..she should be in jail. Under her watch as SOS, the middle East blew up and now we have ISIS and porous borders. How many times has she said “I don’t recall” or “I can’t remember”. The worse are there are still those who support this horrible, sleazy politician and blind themselves to all her despicable behavior and lies.. I’ll hold my nose and vote for a man that understands how to run a business and balance sheet, who hasn’t let political correctness intimidate him, wants accountability in our government (Orlando was the 8th terror attack under Jeh Johnson and should be FIRED!) and make our country strong and respected. Hillary fancies herself above the law and therefore does as she pleases, yet the tax payer pays her bloated salary. Despicable.

  • Kozmo

    Sure is odd how this blog occasionally goes silent for days or weeks at a time, then there will be a flurry of new posts without comment on why there is such an irregular publishing schedule. Could anyone at TM address this, please? When there is no new content apart from bickering in the Comments section, it is very easy to fall out of the habit of visiting this site.

  • Maneki Neko

    This article proves that mankind’s most important sense is the sense of smell.
    This article has more B.S. in it than the Fort Worth stockyard.
    Keep dreaming of your Maoist totalitarian worker’s paradise, Texas Monthly staff, because that’s the only place where it will exist.
    I suggest you all move to California where you can live in a place that fulfills your totalitarian dreams.

    • Kozmo

      The TM staff being “Maoists” is very funny! Even if they did have a time machine back to, oh, 1968, they would hardly be called radical left wingers.

      But more to the point, why bother to move to California? That whole damn state is moving here as fast as it can, judging from the accents and attitudes and license plates I see in Austin every day. We’re becoming Californicated TO THE MAX TOTALLY! Just call us New Hollywood, with all the trappings.

  • Flash Kellam

    We are approaching a “perfect storm” of Supreme Court deaths and/or retirements, based solely on their present ages and the historical record. Whoever becomes the next president will nominate at least one Justice (the deceased Scalia’s seat), quite probably three more in the next four years, and quite probably a total of
    five if his (or her) term goes eight years. This will tip the ideological balance of the Court 7-2 – one way or the
    other.

    If Clinton makes those nominations, she doubtless will load the Court with extreme leftists (including homosexuals and transgenders). The result will be a Court where the conservatives will likely not win another ideological battle for the next two generations.

    For that reason alone, there is no case to be made for a conservative to vote for Clinton. None.

    • John Bernard Books

      amen

  • don76550

    Erica is clearly delusional. Hillary is a liar, a criminal, an enabler of rape and serial sexual harassment. If she is elected this country is over.

  • T_Ford

    Both Trump and Hillary are likely to profound failures, so I don’t envy any of us for the choice we must make. But Hillary is off the charts bad. Trump might at least has a bit of an unknown factor that could be a positive surprise.

  • Kraythe

    You people seriously make me laugh. You are so “principled conservative” that you are making excuses for a woman that left 4 americans to die in Benghazi, violated every law of national security, has been implicated in dozens of illegal and criminal actions, supports open borders, gay marriage, has a visceral hate of men, supports black lives matter (who love to advocate for shooting cops), consorts with mothers of convicted fellons and armed robber suspects who tried to kill cops, supports the march of every kind of socialist program on the planet, and has only “meh” to say about islamic terrorism and global abuse of women under islam.

    You people are so incensed by Trump not being your religious purity of conservative that you cannot fathom the concept of Nationalist Populism or getting someone who is not a politician in the white house. Your emotional hatred of Trump pre-empts every principle you claim to stand for. That is what I call “irrational.”

  • karen

    BURKABLOG……. I do not understand your choice of a name ……. I stopped reading after a few comments because everyone seemed to be focusing on personalities and not what is going on in the world today. Something has to change….. Children are being raised to hate, people are being lead to dependency on the government, industry and jobs continuously are leaving our soils, more products from other countries keep flooding our stores, H1-B is being abused to bring persons from other countries to take away jobs from our citizens………. I could go on and on but it would only bore those that do not see what is going on in this country…… Please everyone…… open your eyes…… Do not listen to others opinions until you have read and understand……..
    “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.
    Soren Kierkegaard 1813-1855

  • Victoria

    Clinton is pure evil. She will appoint liberal judges. Her dishonesty is unbelievable. The Clinton Foundation where they stole from the poorest of the poor….her cronyism…..it goes on and on! I would rather live through Trump and hope he will surround himself with good people. Pence will keep him in line!