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Patrick: Bathroom Bill Study Is ‘Bogus’

Politifact Texas calls Texas Association of Business report ’Mostly False.’

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It was a good day for Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick. A media report over the weekend had seemingly undermined one of the main arguments against his transgender bathroom bill, and Patrick wasn’t going to let it pass without some gloating.

He convened a press conference on Monday to highlight the PolitiFact Texas report that labeled as “mostly false” a study by the Texas Association of Business that found the bathroom bill could cost Texas as much as $8.5 billion economic activity and up to 185,000 in potential job losses. “I hope all the media sources who printed that bogus TAB report will at least do a story now that TAB report has been shown not to be valid,” Patrick said.

The TAB in a news release stood behind its study, saying the economic impact predicted a range of $964 million to $8.5 billion in lost activity if the transgender bathroom bill passes. “We don’t need studies alone to prove the negative impact of this unnecessary legislation. The hard data exists in real time and in dramatically quantifiable ways when you look at North Carolina and Indiana today.” The association said North Carolina learned over the weekend that it will lose $250 million in National Collegiate Athletic Association events if the state’s restrictions on transgender people are not repealed. “This represents the tip of the iceberg for Texas, and we must avoid this collision course by rejecting discriminatory legislation.”

Patrick said that similar arguments were made Houston voters rejected the Houston Equal Rights Ordinance by an overwhelming margin in 2015. “Fear mongering is what that report is about,” Patrick said. “I don’t know of any business that hasn’t moved to Houston because of the issue. … We’ve had basketball tournaments. We had the greatest Super Bowl ever.”

PolitiFact wrote:

Portions of the study commissioned by the Texas Association of Business proved solid. But other elements were shaky. One projection, for instance, rests in the Super Bowl set for Houston on Feb. 5, 2017, being moved to another state. Another extrapolates Texas losses from research rooted in Arizona’s immigration law–not that state’s failed proposal targeting LGBT residents. And the report’s biggest projected loss to Texas starts from an Indiana legislator’s comment that might lack documentary backup…

Zehner wrote that four St. Edward’s business graduate students under faculty supervision reached the projections in December 2015—or more than a year before the 2017 legislative session. That timeframe explains why North Carolina’s experience wasn’t considered; its law won legislative approval in March 2016.

Such a law might cause economic shivers. But we find this study’s headlined figures, reached about 13 months ago, to be based on predicted or actual effects of discriminatory mandates in Arizona, Louisiana and Indiana that didn’t make it into law or were rescinded or softened. Moreover, not all the study’s numbers, calculations and assumptions proved solid and a key figure, reflecting on Indiana losing $1.5 billion in conventions, doesn’t appear to have a documented basis.

We rate this claim Mostly False.

The TAB study was widely reported by the state’s news media, including by Texas Monthly. The TAB is the umbrella organization for the state’s Chambers of Commerce and has been a reliable source of information in the past.

“I hope all of you who took that report on face value as issued by the Texas Association of Business…I hope you will report that it has been totally discredited,” Patrick said.

The legislation’s Senate sponsor, Republican Lois Kolkhorst of Brenham, said she has polling showing that support for the bill is growing, particularly among Republican women.

“I’ve had many conversations with women who are starting to realize this is truly about keeping men out of women’s locker rooms, out of the restrooms and out of the showers, especially those we find in our public school arena,” Kolkhorst said. “Just last week here in Austin we saw a 30-year old was arrested after taking lewd photos of a young girl after he had entered one of the restrooms.”

However, Kolkhorst’s example does not apply to the bill because the man accused of taking a photo of an underage girl did it in a grocery store restroom. The legislation does not cover restrooms of private businesses, even when they offer facilities to the public. Patrick last Spring joined a boycott of Target over a policy of non-discrimination against transgender individuals. Target store since then announced it will spend $20 million to install gender neutral bathrooms in its stores.

The bathroom bill as it currently exists would require public schools and government buildings to limit bathroom, changing facilities, and showers to use by people of their gender at birth. The bill also would overturn any local nondiscrimination ordinances that prevent private businesses from barring transgender people from using the restroom of the gender with which they identify. Patrick said the bathroom bill did not regulate private company bathrooms because “we’re free enterprise Republicans and we want the customers to voice their opinion.”

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  • WUSRPH

    If the bill passes I think we should be certain that Dan Patrick gets the proper credit (sic). That’s why I am starting a fund to purchase signs featuring his face with the slogan “Dan Patrick is watching” to be posted in every public bathroom in the State.

    • TacoRub

      With genitals for his jowls?

      • WUSRPH

        It is his pig snout that stands out the most.

        • John Johnson

          Ad hominem? Me thinks so. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    • grubber

      To get a proper view to inspect the plumbing, Danny’s face needs to be right in the toilet bowl. Make that change and I will be happy to donate to this worthy cause.

  • BCinBCS

    What I want to know is who will pay for the monitors to check the gender of every person entering a restroom to make sure that they are using the one that corresponds to their genitals?

    • Katy del Moxie

      Not their genitals; only what is written on their birth certificate. If an individual has had confirmation surgery or is intersex, it does not matter what their genitals look like now. So I guess we should all be prepared to carry our birth certificates around if we want to use public or government rest rooms.

      • WUSRPH

        Patrick wants to require a driver’s license to vote and a birth certificate to go to the bathroom…What is he going to require for the bedroom?

        Will we have to take our bible to bed?

        • John Bernard Books

          We do not care what you and your boyfriend do in the bedroom…

          • TacoRub

            But if you want to share….

          • John Bernard Books

            Nope don’t want to know what you and your boyfriend do either….

          • TacoRub

            Why should you and Dan monopolize the show?

          • John Bernard Books

            elections decide who the winners and the whiners are…

        • SpiritofPearl

          King James or Douay-Reims?

          • WUSRPH

            King James, of course, that other one is only for Papists…and it ain’t the one that good evangelicals like Dan use….It’s got too many books for one thing.

      • BCinBCS

        So you’re saying that a fully converted male will have to use the women’s facilities and a fully transgendered female will shower with the men?

        Oookay.

        • WUSRPH

          That’s true unless they have gone to court to have their birth certifcate amended…otherwise, once a boy always a boy…..surgery notwithstanding.

        • TacoRub

          Lots of real knowledge here: “Fully converted” and then “fully tansgendered”! You must have graduated from the Lamar Smith School of Hyperbole and Alternate Facts.

        • SpiritofPearl

          When I was in college, we all had fake ID to get into bars.

        • Katy del Moxie

          That is how the law is written.

          This is all about fear and the false narrative that transgender people are sex fiends. They were doing the same thing to gay men 20 years ago. And if you are a trans-man (born female, living as male), they don’t think you exist at all.

      • SpiritofPearl

        No one carries a birth certificate to have entry to a restroom. Even simple economics shows how stupid this legislation is. Who pays? More importantly, who cares?

  • John Bernard Books

    MeNDan taking dummies down one by one.

    • TacoRub

      Holding hands down the yellow slick floor?

      • John Bernard Books

        you’re obsessed with poo….

  • SpiritofPearl

    One can hope that Texas loses big bucks and that Patrick gets his comeuppance.

    • SpiritofPearl

      “This user is blocked.”

  • BCinBCS

    Every election, the GOP comes up with one of these controversial hot button topics to fire up the base as part of the Republican strategy to get out the vote. It has a secondary purpose of distracting their low- and middle income voters from realizing that the GOP’s fiscal policies are detrimental to them.

    I realize that this controversy was initiated by liberals who wanted equality for the transgendered but do you think that Dan Patrick is riding this pony into the ground because he is a true believer or is he using the Bathroom Bill as a diversion?

    • BCinBCS

      I’m curious so I’m asking people’s opinions.

      Do you think that Dan Patrick is riding this pony into the ground because he is a true believer or is he using the Bathroom Bill as a diversion?

      • WUSRPH

        Based on his actions in many other situations, he is either very, very good at faking his beliefs or a true believer of the highest degree. Actually, I think it is a combination of both….but more on the true believer end….As a wise old theologian once pointed out “Converts are always the worst” (i.e.–more likely to go to extremes in promoting their strict interpretations).

      • Gunslinger

        I don’t think it really matters whether or not he’s a true believer or faking it as one. It’s a sort of red meat issue for his base. If he wins and it’s signed into law, then great. He gets a victory, hasn’t lost anything and no one he cares about is hurt. If he loses, then he exposes all those who didn’t support his bill as RINOs. He and MQS can start plotting their primary election opponents. Gosh, I think it works out better for him if it doesn’t pass. Or better still if Abbott vetoes the bill. Then he can challenge Abbott…and probably win.

        But I agree with WUSRPH, it’s probably a little of both believing and faking for Patrick.

        • John Johnson

          He’s just another megalomaniac who uses whatever red meat issues he can find to fire up the dwindling, far right Cruz group. I think people are catching onto it. Might be wrong, but that is what I think I am seeing. Burton is the dark horse down the road. She is personable, well spoken and can repeat the words fed her by Dunn and his lackey as well as anyone. She has positioned herself to make a play for Lt Gov, or a congressional seat, and she is champing at the bit to spread her wings. She has traveled the state giving speeches and showing up at fundraisers, and you don’t do that if you are content with sitting in the Dist. 10 senatorial seat. Just don’t disagree with her; if you do, you are persona non grata on her FB accounts. Only true believers and applauders get to post there. If you want a another Cruz acolyte who preaches the same message without his accompanying smarts, she is the one for you. I personally like her, and I like several of her positions, but moving decision making away from local governments, wanting to squash the ability to vote on local bond packages (like our recent Ranger Ballpark deal), and taking away the ability of Texas to offer incentives to entice businesses and special events to our state, while all the other states can continue to dangle carrots, is boneheaded and ill thoughtout. Ask her to explain her positions and you will get nothing back. At some point, she is going to have to give specifics, but not until Dunn and Michael tell her what to say. That’s my take.

      • Wilson James

        I think he is a zealot, and in the Trump mode, a con.

  • John Bernard Books

    It is still Bush’s fault
    “The message crafters of the Democratic Party don’t need Republican enemies when they have Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters screwing everything up.

    During a press conference on Monday, Nancy Pelosi thought George W. Bush was still the president.”
    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/confusion-nancy-pelosi-says-seen-nothing-can-work-president-bush/

  • José

    Mr. Patrick, you are pleased that the $8.5 billion cost estimate is unproven and quite possibly overstated. Fine. How much of a financial penalty to the State of Texas do you consider acceptable for the privilege of discriminating against people who you hate?

    • John Bernard Books

      Jose don’t hate our Lt Guv because he’s a Christian….

      • TacoRub

        Jose has plenty of other reasons including buffoonery, falling off of Abbott’s veering turnip truck, and the one he owns best—being a stubborn jackass.

        • John Bernard Books

          nah…haters are just plain of dumazz haters….

      • [email protected]

        Dan Partick is a Christian about the same way a donkey is a Thoroughbred

  • TacoRub

    Patrick would do more of what we elected him to do by going on a bathroom tour and ensuring we have plenty of toilet paper to clean up the BS he’s been spreading.

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems in shock….
    “On the same day the Senate confirmed President Trump’s secretary of Education pick by a historically narrow margin, a House Republican introduced legislation to abolish the entire department Betsy DeVos will lead.

    Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie’s bill is only a page long, after merely stating the Department of Education would terminate on Dec. 31, 2018.”
    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/318310-gop-lawmaker-proposes-abolishing-department-of-education

    PRESIDENT Trump will undo 100 years of progressive’s jackassery

  • John Bernard Books

    Are you a fake progressive or a regressive…welcome to the new dem party
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems put partisan politics ahead of children’s education
    “In fact, the Department of Education was created by President Carter in part as a gift to the National Education Assn., for the union’s early support of his candidacy. Politics was the department’s original sin, and that reality has gotten only worse.”
    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-meredith-paige-abolish-education-department-20170106-story.html

    One has to be truly stupid to vote dem….

  • John Bernard Books

    dems are batshyte crazy…Ms Pelosi do you agree….well uh uh……
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul3wR5TCGoA

    • John Johnson

      Invade North Korea? We have us a couple of Texas dim wits up there if D.C. Having said that am I a racist woman hater?

  • John Johnson

    In response to WUSRPH earlier question about JBB’s Burka Blog title…The Most Prolific Poster of Thought Provoking Links.

    • John Bernard Books

      Sorry JJ but WASSUP’s hypocrisy makes me respond

      • John Johnson

        I just skimmed through today’s WaPo headlines. What a bunch of slanted pap.

        What wasn’t reported was the meeting held by a group of big money Dem’s who have decided to use their money to plan and pay for staged protests at every turn, and use the liberal courts to fight legislation and EO’s since they have no stroke in the legislature any longer. It is going to be one battle after another every step of the way. Gorsuch can’t be confirmed fast enough to suit me.

        • John Bernard Books
          • John Johnson

            Bingo!

          • WUSRPH

            I guess you missed the one about the Democratic sessions this weekend….3 days of more plotting against Running Mouth.

        • dave in texas

          …big money Dem’s who have decided to use their money to plan and pay for staged protests at every turn…
          How is this any different than big-money Republicans funding all the Tea Party protests after Obama’s election? And maybe President Trump should give a little more thought to what goes into his executive orders (or at least run it by a couple of lawyers) before signing whatever unconstitutional nonsense Bannon puts in front of him.

          • John Johnson

            I agree wholeheartedly. Was only pricking Pearl.

          • St. Anger

            “How is this any different than big-money Republicans funding all the Tea Party protests after Obama’s election? ”

            i think the difference is that this time it isn’t true.

  • WUSRPH

    Gen. Flynn compared Trump to the chariot driver in Ben-Hur, but he did not say whether he was talking about Judah or Messala. I think he meant Messala.

    • SpiritofPearl

      Trump resembles Nero, playing golf while America burns.

      • John Johnson

        That was Obama.

        • dave in texas

          I truly don’t understand why people get all bent out of shape when presidents play golf. They’ve pretty much all been golfers since Eisenhower, except Carter, iirc. It’s a damned difficult job, and if the president wants to take a few hours to decompress by playing golf, I have no problem with that. In the interest of complete disclosure, I play golf, too (usually badly) but if a president wants to play handball or basketball (more Obama’s thing than golf) or freaking foosball, for that matter, I think that’s perfectly fine. Presidents, probably even more than most of us, need some time to relax.

          • SpiritofPearl

            I don’t either, but the bubbas blast Obama while ignoring their own. GWB took off several hours each day to jog, then later to mountain bike.

  • SpiritofPearl
  • John Bernard Books

    PRESIDENT Trump did something most liberal judges have never done…
    “Trump read out parts of the federal law outlining presidential powers on the subject, saying it was written clearly and “beautifully.”
    The part of the U.S. Code he read specifies that when the president “finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation … suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.””
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/08/trump-mounts-public-defense-immigration-order-blasts-political-courts.html

    He opened up a book and read the law as written…….most liberals just make it up as they go along….

    • John Johnson

      Yep…the law is clear and concise. We now have a bunch of judges who want to interject their opinions and add their own personal adendums. Slapping the hand of a child who has had his way for so long is a catalyst for a hissy fit. It often takes time to instill in them the fact that there is no going back.

      • donuthin2

        Thank goodness for the courts. I don’t always agree with their conclusion, but never really doubt that they interpreting based on the law and constitution.

        • John Johnson

          Suggest you read the law as it was written. No gray areas. Very clear.

          • John Bernard Books

            As previously stated PRESIDENT TRump read the law, liberal Judges make it up as they go along….only the stupid would approve.

  • John Bernard Books

    Sen Majority Leader cannot stop dems from being stupid but he can tell them to STFU…
    “That’s when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell stepped in to call out Warren for violating Senate Rule 19—impugning the motives and conduct of Sessions.”
    http://dailysignal.com/2017/02/07/watch-mitch-mcconnell-shut-down-elizabeth-warren-for-attack-on-jeff-sessions/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thf-fb

    Republicans finally standing up to the out of control dems….

  • John Bernard Books

    May Cecelia Richards rot in hell…
    “A new video released by pro-life group Live Action reveals that Planned Parenthood has long been imposing abortion quotas on its clinics nationwide, incentivizing its workers to convince women to terminate their pregnancies.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/444685/planned-parenthood-abortion-quotas-exposed-live-action-video?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=desanctis
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxUAR3a_Jc

    • John Johnson

      This will no doubt be poo-poo’d as a staged interview and the women coming forward portrayed as liars. The body part selling still sticks in my craw yet didn’t seem to phase the “true believers” who think that Planned Parenthood is just there to “help”. Let women choose, but keep my tax dollars far away from this group.

      • donuthin2

        Tissue taken from fetus’ to save a child is wrong? Tell me why?

        • John Johnson

          Because I consider a heartbeat to mean “alive”, and a human embryo that is alive and then killed deserves the same respect and handling after desth that a stillborn baby would receive. That’s my take. You asked.

          • John Bernard Books

            As ex-prez Obama said “he didn’t want his daughter to have to live with a mistake”…..sick

          • donuthin2

            I respect your belief but happen to disagree with you. When an embryo can be used to in a constructive way to make a life better, I am ok with it.

          • John Johnson

            Yep, we disagree. When demand increases, there is a $ value placed on the fetuses. If abortion clinics turn selling body parts into a profit stream, there seems to be a tendency, as JBB’s link attests, to coerce instead of counsel. Can’t stomach that.

          • donuthin2

            There is a cost associated with it. I am ok with recovering the costs. I doubt that for planned parenthood it would be a profit center. And there is nothing that JBB says that is creditable. In the interest of time, I blocked his comments long ago. Just too much gibberish to wade through.

          • John Johnson

            JBB posted an interview with a woman who used to work for Planned Parenthood. One talked about awards given to the facilities that did the most abortions. She talked about how they were graded on how many they could get to commit to abortions as opposed to just counseling them. She said they had practiced routines; for instance, if a woman said she did not have the $ to cover the cost of the procrdure, the retort was “If you can’t afford our fee, how are you going to buy diapers, clothes and food for a baby?”

          • SpiritofPearl

            So was Nancy Reagan.

  • Jay Trainor

    There’s a pattern here. Last session Lt. Gov. D. Patrick used the same M.O. to cut therapy services to severely disabled 1-3 yr old poor kids just to show how tough he can be to his rich anti-government libertarian financial backers. Our #2 ‘leader’ had Senator Charles Schwertner slip in Rider 50 into a conference committee meeting at the last minute so no one had time to read it. It turns out that the basis for the study was fake. Just like Donald Trump used fake news to get elected.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2015/09/22/texas-m-disputes-states-account-medicaid-suit/

    Even State District Judge Tim Sulak found the study to be flawed.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2016/04/12/therapy-payment-cuts-will-not-harm-children-judge-/

    It’s just business as usual for Republicans who run things their way in our one political party state.

  • John Bernard Books

    Most of my dem friends allege we don’t spend enough on mental health. I’m not sure there is a cure for liberalism, but it stands to reason one could simply stop being stupid….
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/85774c81dd730e77487654095a9eb3a756f1628d70580777561fead9a900d77b.jpg

    • Unwound

      youre dumb enough to actually think this is funny

  • SpiritofPearl
  • SpiritofPearl
  • John Bernard Books

    WASSUP loves to brag about his college education….
    “Here is a staggering statistic from the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI): “More than 25 percent of college students have been diagnosed or treated by a professional for a mental health condition within the past year.”
    Let that sink in. 25 percent.
    Colleges are basically clinics. Psychiatric centers.
    http://www.infowars.com/the-number-one-mind-control-program-at-us-colleges/

    what is it about colleges that attract nutjobs…..

  • John Bernard Books

    “”Su casa es mi casa,” said Mayor Sylvester Turner assuring that Houston will remain a city plagued by debt…
    “As the U.S. government and the Texas Legislature consider penalizing so-called “sanctuary cities” for undocumented immigrants, Mayor Sylvester Turner insists that Houston “will continue to be a welcoming city.”
    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/calle-houston/article/Sylvester-Turner-on-Houston-and-the-attack-on-10918281.php

    Mayor Turner wants illegals to move in with you, eat your food, drive your car and spend your money…..as long as they keep voting dem.

  • John Bernard Books

    90% of government workers can be replaced by robots…
    “A study by a British think tank, Reform, says that 90% of British civil service workers have jobs so pointless, they could easily be replaced by robots, saving the government around $8 billion per year.
    The study, published this week, says that robots are “more efficient” at collecting data, processing paperwork, and doing the routine tasks that now fall to low-level government employees.”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-08/most-government-workers-could-be-replaced-robots-new-study-finds

    But…but…but who will post at Burqa blog all day……

  • SpiritofPearl

    A fun cartoon from the roguePOTUSstaff twitter feed:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RogueCPI/status/827352692594974720/photo/1

  • SpiritofPearl
  • John Bernard Books

    My good friend WASSUP reminded us daily that soothsayer Nate Silver had Hillary at an 87% chance of winning in 2016….welp Nate explains why the media(?) got it wrong
    “Conversely, Trump’s data team wasn’t likely to get a lot of credit from the media almost no matter what it did. With rare exception, reporters tended to portray Trump’s Electoral College strategy as being whimsical and haphazard, even when it was doing some pretty smart things.”
    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2017/02/07/nate-silver-explains-how-msm-helped-hillary-lose-election

    even if ol Nate doesn’t know it he got it wrong, too…..

  • John Bernard Books

    Will Trump put the looters out of business?
    “Shortly before swearing in Attorney General Jeff Sessions at the White House Thursday, President Donald Trump announced the signing of three executive orders related to crime.
    “I’m signing three executive actions today designed to restore safety in America,” Trump said, adding he was fulfilling another campaign promise. “I am directing DOJ and DHS to take all necessary action to break the backs of criminal cartels that have spread across our nation.”
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/02/09/trumps-signs-a-slew-of-new-executive-orders-on-mexican-cartels-law-enforcement-n2283604

    who will support the dems…..

  • John Bernard Books

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1787ba10935f68f85e038ccf449009e7370b2459c17fe8cd5e7c6a5df59cd13a.jpg My good friend Liz Warren loves school vouchers…..yes Liz lived next door to me for a few years

    • John Johnson

      Maybe someone can put together a 13 minute vid of Warren flip flops and lies like they did on Hillary. In their own words is hard to dispute, but the loonies most assuredly will.

  • John Johnson

    Well, the goofy ruling is in. Some foreign university students in Washington state have been adversely affected.

    For some, the Constitution just seems to be a jumble of words that over time can be twisted and contorted to fit their agenda. How can anyone project that the authors intended for Constitutional protections to extend worldwide and be afforded to everyone, everywhere?

    I don’t get it.

    • WUSRPH

      Not while they are there, but,yes, while they are here.

  • WUSRPH

    Because a law is clearly written does not make.
    it constitutional. How it is implemented often makes the difference. These judges did not say it was either constltutional or not. They said the govt had not shown that it can win on the merits. Good ruling.

    • John Johnson

      How so regarding “merits”?
      And answer my question, please…are non-citizens afforded the same rights as US citizens under the Constitution?

      • WUSRPH

        The 14th amendment does not say anything about citizenship being a. Requirement for equal rights or treatment.

        • John Johnson

          A clause from the 14th Amendment…”Due process ensures the rights and equality of all citizens.” Response, please.

          • John Bernard Books

            Stop dealing in facts….

          • John Johnson

            Not clear enough for some, it seems. Crazy.

          • John Bernard Books

            Dems could care less what our laws are, they are just delaying
            “President Donald Trump will lose the appeal on the nationwide ban on his travel executive order — but he will prevail before the Supreme Court, famed civil-rights attorney Alan Dershowitz told Newsmax TV on Wednesday.
            “I do not believe that this order constitutes a violation of the establishment clause of the Constitution,” the Harvard Law School professor emeritus told “Newsmax Prime” host J.D. Hayworth. “The fact that they picked seven Muslim states, those are the states that have high levels of terrorism.”
            http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dershowitz-trump-will-win-travel-ban/2017/02/08/id/772680/

      • BCinBCS

        JJ asked: “…are non-citizens afforded the same rights as US citizens under the Constitution?

        The 14th Amendment to the Constitution states:

        No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

        James Madison, the second President of the United States and one of the authors of the Constitution wrote: “that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage.

        It has been settled law for almost 130 years that aliens have Constitutional rights. Whether they be legal aliens or illegal aliens, there are only three area where they do not have this protection: voting, some government jobs (such as President) and gun ownership.

        • John Johnson

          That Madison statement addressed those already admitted. I agree. Those yet to come have no rights under our Constitution.

          Those here illegally have no rights under our laws.

          • WUSRPH

            Sorry but you are wrong. We have gone ovrr this before. They have the full protections or the law.

          • John Johnson

            Hahaha. You’ve made your ruling?

          • WUSRPH

            Nope. Just reporting court holdings. Trump and you will have to live with three equal branches.

          • BCinBCS

            Th Supreme Court has confirmed multiple times the validity of granting rights to everyone. They ruled so in 1886, 1896, 1903, 1973, 1982 and in 2001. The 1982 case involved Texas, requiring the state to allow children of illegals to attend school.

          • BCinBCS

            Please re-read the second sentence of the last paragraph of my reply to which you just responded. Please don’t be a hard-head.

            ETA: Once again, W beat me to the answer.

          • John Johnson

            your typing your thoughts on here means what? Lot’s of times, to me, absolutely nothing. It is your opinion. The 9th Dist Court has expressed theirs. No court in the nation has been overturned more times by the SCOTUS than the 9th. We shall see.

          • BCinBCS

            I love how facts have become secondary to beliefs for conservatives.

        • José

          The USA is hardly alone in this regard. Travel to any other first world nation and you’ll be extended privileges and protections far beyond what Trumpkins think are appropriate for visitors to our fair shores. I can guarantee you that Americans abroad tend to take this for granted.

        • WUSRPH

          Fourth.

  • John Bernard Books

    Reporting for TM again…
    Straus appoints Zerwas chair and his good friend Dwanna Dukes to the Appropriations Committee?!?…..
    https://static.texastribune.org/media/documents/By_Committee.pdf

  • donuthin2

    This EO is verification that Trump is a loose cannon. He is impulsive, disrespectful and way to naive.

  • John Bernard Books

    Are my good dem friends confused….
    “The family of a woman convicted of voter fraud is speaking out after a Tarrant County jury sentenced her to eight years in prison.
    Prosecutors say the reason officials at the elections department in Dallas didn’t stop the voter fraud from happening is because Rosa Ortega claimed she was a citizen on her application.”
    http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/02/09/grand-prairie-woman-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud/

    Dems love them some voter fraud….

  • donuthin2

    Maybe, just maybe and hopefully, Trump’s SC pick will be better than he wants him to be. That is the danger in picking someone who is smart and an independent thinker. Makes me think of Roberts and the republican’s disappointment. We’ll see.

    • José

      One can hope. Supreme Court justices sometimes turn out differently than expected. Remember Souter? And for us geezers, remember Earl Warren? O’Connor and Kennedy were nominated by Republicans and they became known for their moderation.
      Also there’s a trend that the justices become more liberal as time goes on.
      https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/supreme-court-justices-get-more-liberal-as-they-get-older/

      • BCinBCS

        Since Neil Gorsuch is starting out to the right of Antonin Scalia (but left of Clarence Thomas) he will have a long way to go before he becomes a moderate, assuming that he becomes more liberal with time.

  • John Bernard Books

    I used to think dem voters “got it” but pretended they didn’t just so they could argue….
    “Four people including a 16-year-old girl have been arrested on suspicion of planning a suicide attack in Paris.”
    http://news.sky.com/story/paris-suicide-bomb-plot-teen-among-four-held-10762046

    But now I have to agree with most dem politicians, their voters are too stupid to “get it”…..

    • Asher B. Garber

      Luckily, I never thought a Republican voter was smart enough to stay on topic. Thanks, JBB, for the proof that your brain is a lot like tapioca pudding.

      • John Bernard Books

        oh lookie a bozo….maybe its because you’re stupid.

        • Asher B. Garber

          I see we find ourselves in a Rubber and Glue situation. So the one who speaks last, speaks loudest?

          Can’t wait for your AMAZING comeback.

    • Asher B. Garber

      I used to think Republicans hated Fundamentalist Islam, and then I discovered how much like them they are. Both, for example, hate gay people. Both want the government to limit education. Both insist on religion ruling the roost. Guns– Hell’s ya! Women are property of men, too, as the strongest society is the one ruled by a patriarchy.

      Maybe it’s the oil fumes.

  • SpiritofPearl
  • John Bernard Books

    Bozos….the 9th Circus Court of Appeals loves to be overturned…
    “But in 2010, perhaps seeking to reclaim its position at the top of the heap, the Ninth Circuit was reversed a startling 19 times (79 percent), three times as many reversals as most circuits had cases before the Supreme Court. The same pattern continued in the 2011 (71 percent) and 2012 terms (86 percent), when the Ninth Circuit was reversed more than twice as many times as most circuits had cases before the Court.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/373273/ninth-circuit-leading-pack-most-reversed-jonathan-keim

    Why do liberals take pride in being wrong….

  • BCinBCS

    My take on the confirmation Of Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education in the Comrade Trump/Bannon administration.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2febab31e4d8352a6506490e80ed981fa98d1e77032e8f49e3924bb0daedcdb.gif

    • BCinBCS

      Today was Betsey DeVos’ first day as Secretary of Education. She tweeted that she couldn’t find the pencils.

      Some replies to that tweet:

      . @BetsyDeVos If YOU work in education, YOU buy the pencils, the paper, &, sometimes, a kid’s shoes. Spend a week in a school & GET A CLUE.”

      @BetsyDeVos At the store. Something you should know: we teachers buy pencils and supplies for our classes with our OWN money.

      @BetsyDeVos I hope the one you find has a good eraser. I have a feeling you’re gonna be making lots of mistakes.

      @BetsyDeVos You worked a whole day but didn’t have anything to write with? Maybe you could hold a bake sale to buy some pencils.

      And many more that can be found here:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/betsy-devos-pencils-twitter_us_589d3f59e4b094a129e9bbba

  • BCinBCS

    Chris Weigant had this to say about golfing Presidents and hypocritical Republicans:

    ‘According to Politico, George W. Bush had been president for over five months when he first took a day off to play some golf. Barack Obama was only in office for four months when he shot his first presidential game. But for some reason, Republicans went apoplectic at the sight of Obama on the links. We’re not saying it had anything to do with his skin color or anything, but while Republicans had been fine with presidents playing golf all the way back to Eisenhower, for some reason Obama golfing drove them bananas. So we’re eagerly waiting for them to vigorously denounce Donald Trump — who only waited two weeks before getting out on the golf course. Surely that will make Republican heads explode, right? Unless it was all just a stupid and thin excuse to attack a sitting president they didn’t like, of course. My guess is that the concept of presidential golf got rehabilitated in the Republican Party in the same two-week period, since I haven’t heard a peep of complaint yet from them. Strange how that works, isn’t it?’

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-first-visit-golf-course-234729
    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/02/10/ftp424/#more-13528

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems only enforce laws during election years…
    “It must be an election year in Germany. Chancellor Angela Merkel has agreed to a plan to speed up deportations of immigrants whose claims for refugee status have been rejected.”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/02/10/germanys-merkel-announces-plans-to-speed-up-deportations/

    Dems believe the government should be used against the citizens while protecting illegal immigrants….

  • John Bernard Books

    Dems fav court has an 80% overturn rate by SCOTUS. Its called the 9th circus Court for a reason….the judges are liberal clowns…
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/21aaa6a06c05563211774870745d207c280b1ea044eec51e69e88dddef621079.jpg

  • BCinBCS

    And the beat lie goes on,
    and the beat lie goes on…

    It’s not a secret that Comrade Trump/Bannon lies and it’s not a secret that his administration lies. In case you are keeping track, the latest couple of whoppers have come from Stephen Miller, senior political advisor to the presidents. He sat in front of George Stephanopoulos on his Sunday morning show and claimed that Comrade Trump’s allegation that he lost the election in New Hampshire was because thousands of illegal voters were bussed in from Massachusetts.

    They had to side-line Kelleyanne Conway because she could not adequately defend Comrade Trump/Bannon’s bald face lies with her statements of “alternative facts” and her support of his immigration policy that sees terrorists entering the U.S. by the plane load by reminding everyone of the Bowling Green massacre. Now The Comrade has substituted Miller, I guess hoping that a fresh face will be believed. To true believers I’m sure that it worked, they will believe anything but for the rest of us, well, it’s just sad and pathetic.

  • [email protected]

    The first Texas Monthly Ive had to throw away. I simply cannot stand seeing Dan Partick on my living room table every time I walk by.

    • donuthin2

      He is creepy looking for sure.