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There’s an undeniable history in this country of police treating black people, especially young black people, like they must be controlled. As a result, many black people, especially young black people, feel that when the police show up, they’re in danger. The police are there to protect and serve somebody, but there’s no reason for a black teenager in a planned suburban enclave like McKinney’s Craig Ranch to believe that that somebody is him.

This video shot in McKinney over the weekend went internationally viral. You’re forgiven if you find it too brutal to sit through.

The facts are still difficult to pin down, but before the video began, police were called to the pool party. Witnesses say that some white adults at the pool had made racist comments—telling the black teens to “get used to the bars” outside of the pool, or to “go back to their Section 8 housing.” (The average home price in Craig Ranch is $450,000.)

Those comments apparently led to a confrontation. Tatyana Rhodes, a 19-year-old girl who was one of the hosts of the party, says that she was struck by an older white woman after she confronted her about racial slurs. (A witness interviewed by the Huffington Post corroborates Rhodes’ account.) There’s a video of Rhodes and the other woman grappling. As a security guard approaches, the other woman walks away from the scene. 

When @Keef_Cakez beat that ass pic.twitter.com/EhB5mY2aus

Shortly after the fight, police arrived. There’s no video of their arrival, but from where the video does start, it’s easy to infer that some of the teenagers started to run away. The video opens with an officer tumbling into a barrel roll, like he’s in an action movie, before beginning the process of grabbing teens, throwing them to the ground, putting knees to their backs, handcuffing them, and—finally—pulling his gun.

The teenagers, who are mostly dressed in bathing suits, are all unarmed. The officer swears at the black kids in the video. The boy holding the camera, who is white, moves around freely. At one point, a black teenage boy who is being ordered to stay on the ground asks if he can retrieve his bag, and the officer says that he cannot. The boy with the camera volunteers to get it for him. Meanwhile, a black girl who tells the officer that she needs to find her glasses gets grabbed by the officer. Moments later, he throws her to the ground, and grabs her by the hair. When two boys approach the scene, he pulls out his gun. When the girl screams about his gun, he grabs her by the back of the head, shouts, “On your face,” and slams her, face-first, into the grass. He places his knee on her back, and when the boy with the camera says, “You pulled your gun on her,” the officer insists, “No, I didn’t.” The girl he’s pinning down cries, “I’m not fighting you.” 

It’s unclear exactly what happened at the pool and why the police got involved. And while, yes, some of the black kids at the scene may have scattered when they saw the police, at least one officer behaved in a way that justifies such a reaction, pulling a gun on unarmed teens. When a black teenager in America in 2015 sees a police officer pull a gun, he or she should understand the stakes. The names Tamir Rice, Michael Brown, Tanisha Anderson, Eric Garner, and Rekia Boyd are constant reminders. Escaping the officer in the video seems like essential self-preservation. 

The officer has been identified by media as Corporal Eric CaseboltAccording to Gawker, someone who appears to be Casebolt had a YouTube playlist on his public profile called “Police Training,”  that features videos of police officers using violent force against the citizens they’re tasked with protecting and serving. On Saturday, that same YouTube user added the video of Casebolt at the pool party to the list. 

(Rod Aydelotte/Waco Tribune-Herald via AP)

Let’s take a moment now to contrast the scene in McKinney with the scene, three weeks earlier, in Waco. At the time of the shooting at the Waco Twin Peaks restaurant between several gangs of mostly-white bikers—which left nine dead and another dozen in the hospital—I wrote that “the mere fact that a massive shoot-out in a strip mall could end with police and bikers on peaceful terms does look like special treatment.” 

The bikers in Waco had a gunfight in broad daylight that killed nine people. The kids in McKinney were allegedly swimming in a pool that they may not all have had permission to be in. One of those encounters involved bikers sitting around in the parking lot on their cell phones. The other involved a girl thrown around, slammed face-first into the ground, held with a knee at her back for saying that she couldn’t leave until she found her glasses. And, of course, the ones who were at the scene of a lethal gunfight were white, and the ones who were beaten by a police officer who seemingly considers videos of police officers kicking suspects in the face to be “police training” were black. 

In these situations, it’s always easy to talk about bad eggs. Casebolt has been placed on leave pending an investigation, after all, which suggests this might just be a situation in which one bad apple overreacted.

But let’s talk about the rest of the eggs. In the video, you can see two other officers. One of them is polite to the (white) kid with the camera, when he attempts to return a flashlight that Casebolt dropped during his tumble-and-roll maneuver. And when Casebolt pulls his gun, the two officers approach Casebolt momentarily, before following his order to chase the boys Casebolt pulled his gun on. There may be bad cops and good cops, but they all serve alongside one another, and when one of the bad ones slams a teenage girl in a bathing suit face-first into the ground repeatedly and draws his gun on a bunch of unarmed kids in a rage, the potentially good cops don’t appear to intervene.

It’s also been shown, repeatedly, that the police force often supports its bad eggs. In January, a Victoria police officer was fired after video showed him beating and tasing an elderly man who committed the non-offense of driving a car with dealer plates without an inspection sticker (cars with dealer plates aren’t required to have them). In April, that officer—Nathanial Robinson—was hired by the nearby Beeville Police Department, where he is once more armed with a gun and the authority to use force on people he suspects of wrongdoing. Ryan Cunningham, who was fired from his job with the Jasper Police Department after being captured on video assaulting a pregnant woman in custody, was hired by the Jasper County Sheriff’s Office shortly thereafter. Whatever the end result of the investigation into Casebolt, it seems likely that if he wants to continue adding clips to his “police training” highlight reel, he’ll have the opportunity. 

It would be easy to place all of the blame here at bad-egg Casebolt’s feet. It’d also be easy to say that this is just another example of the eternal culture-war dispute over the role of police and race. Someone will find a Facebook post from one of the kids in the video in which he talks about smoking weed, or we’ll learn that the young woman in the fight with the white woman had a disciplinary record at school, or some other post-facto obfuscation will arise to shift the narrative for those who want it shifted. There’s a counter-narrative that exists that says that a DJ was holding an illegal party at the pool and advertised it with a $15-a-head cover charge on Twitter. (No such tweets exist, though Tatyana Rhodes—who is a resident of the community—did share an invite to a free pool party at the location via social media. It garnered three “likes.”) 

No matter how the narrative shifts, pulling a gun on unarmed teens is inexcusable. And doing so over the question of who is allowed in a pool is even more troublesome.

According to the girl who hosted the party and her mother (both of whom were residents), most of the kids were from Craig Ranch. Others who didn’t live in the area were reportedly using guest passes; others, it has been said, were jumping the fence to get in.

In other words, some white adults likely saw a group of black children in their neighborhood pool, determined that they didn’t belong, and decided to call the police. The teens may have been loud—teenagers often are—and they may have made some of the people who saw them uncomfortable. But they were kids at a swimming pool, and the day ended for many of them in handcuffs, reportedly after weathering racial slurs from grown-ups.

As the Atlantic also noted, the setting of this disturbing incident—a community pool—recalls the long history of black people not being allowed in public swimming pools. In the sixties, white people were known to pour acid into the water to get them out. They defended their actions, arguing that the black people in those pools were being unruly, too. When the police would be called, they would cuff, swear at, and threaten the black swimmers. Details are still emerging, but what happened in McKinney still serves as a reminder for many Texans, and the rest of America, that the past isn’t dead. As Faulkner said, it’s not even past.

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  • cm47

    This seems to me to be a fair assessment you have given, Mr Solomon. No one who wasn’t there can know exactly how this went down. But I guarantee if my daughter had been treated the way this young woman was treated and guns pulled at a bunch of kids in bathing suits, I would have been beyond furious

    • guest

      So, if someone is beating up your kid, or raping them and they have bathing suits on, you don’t want them treated like this, or guns pulled on them. BTW, he pulled the gun on the kids advancing him from behind. They had shorts on with pockets. Is that okay, or can people only be dangerous if they have pants on? Are dresses, okay? Jogging pants?

      • Chauncey Nixon

        I’m glad the THUG that started all this got fired from her job at Bank of America. What an IDIOT. Starting fights with little kids. How pathetic is that?

        • Char’s an idiot

          Are you sure she started the fight and why do you describe teenagers as “little kids”?

    • Joe T Plumber

      Fair assessment? I have yet to see any interviews with the security guard who was allegedly accosted, the homeowners association board, or the homeowners themselves. The reporting thus far has been incredibly sloppy and lopsided.

      • guest

        Innocent people tend not to give interviews. Guilty people like these girls and their families know people are stupid and will believe everything they say and they have to create a story and keep it going. I’m thinking all the people you mentioned are going to sue this girl and the other one

        • Chauncey Nixon

          Thinking is not your strong suit!

          • guest

            Everything you say, is basically about yourself. This is how you really feel about YOU!

          • LauraAkers

            Wow. So your well thought out response is: “I’m rubber; you’re glue”?

            (chortle)

          • guest

            There should be an exclamation point after ” wow.” Plus, you should put a comma after ” so.”

          • Seamus

            Nope. Using the exclamation point would only be necessary if she intended to use one. As it is written the period expresses a certain amount of sarcasm. The comma after “so” is also unnecessary though okay to use if the writer wanted to do so. She did not use the comma and is still entirely correct.
            You need to find better nits to pick.

    • mj01323

      Is that all you saw in the video. You, like Mr. Solomon, need to watch it again. Tell us what prompted the officer to put the girl on the ground. Furious? Oh come now.

  • Jacki Cook

    Well, once again, we hear hear the drum beat of the past. This incident would probably not have occurred but for the race-baiting instigated by the likes of Obama and Holder, who insinuated themselves, and the power of their offices, into the events beginning with Prof. Gates, to Trayvon Martin, to Michael Brown. The ramped up hyperbole that has ensued since the summer of 2009, when Obama stuck his unnecessary nose into a local police issue in Boston that should never have been a national story, has turned race relations in this country on its butt. But it’s all by design. Keep black Americans ginned up about their “poor lot in life”, instead of addressing the real problem: the breakdown the family and the loss of the two parent home in the black community, ( not to mention the deliberate abortion rate aimed at black women). Black America: wake the hell up!! These race baiters: Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson, Clinton and the rest of the liberals whose life mission is to keep you beholden to welfare, seek not to bring you out of enslavement, but to shackle you there permanently. Do your homework!! It’s not the Republican Party who caused any issues that you hold as your mantra for rebellion, it’s the Democrat Party. It was LBJ and Al Gore Sr. and the rest of the Dixiecrats who sought to keep you down….if you don’t understand the past, you have no hope of changing the future.

    • Nacho Plate

      Race baiting? I doubt racists need to be baited anymore than rapists need to be seduced.

      • Jacki Cook

        Now that is a racist remark, as well as a really dumb comment. Race baiters are those who use race to achieve selfish and immoral ends. I give you Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson,Clinton…you know, the ones who enjoy blacks in the subservient role. As I said, do your homework.

        • Nacho Plate

          What race was my remark aimed at? The way I understand the term, racists are defined by their attitudes, and racists themselves are not a race. Please. Enlighten me.

          • Jacki Cook

            I never said your remark was aimed at any one race. But it echoed racism mentality. Your attitude was simply silly, and obvious, when you equated racist mentality with that of a rapist. It’s the same old platitude: equate one bad behavior with an even more morose one.

          • LauraAkers

            You obviously don’t know what the word morose means any more than the word racist.

            His remark cannot have been racist because it did not make assumptions about anyone based on their race. That is what YOU did.

            And how on earth do black men talking about injustice excuse white people physically assaulting other people simply because they are black, at the same pool as them, and telling them it’s not appropriate to call people n—ers?

          • emaleroland

            He only used it in his sentence in a non-sequitur to compare it to rapists. English much? Now, YOU’RE being racist. Law enforcement was there to enforce the law. 70-100 kids, mostly black showed up and trespassed, assaulted 3 people and the cops were called. That didn’t happen. You have no clue. Do some research before you speak.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Bank of America fired the THUG that started all of this!

          • 44blue

            Apparently not.

          • wessexmom

            What a dumb dumb.

          • guest

            Do you have proof of any of this? This little innocent girl has a school record, did any of these two women have a record with assaults on them? They did not live there and these women did, so they had every right to not want people who don’t live there to not be in the pool. They pay each month to use it. It seems like the black girls were assaulting the white women and pulling their hair and the other white woman was trying to get the girl to let go of her friend, but you spin it whatever way you want, sweetie. BTW, she used ” morose” correctly.

          • LauraAkers

            The girl DID live there. Why do you people keep repeating that nonsense? The fact that many of the black teens were residents there has been reported repeatedly on the major news networks (minus Fox, of course). And witnesses, including WHITE witnesses, are saying the white women both started the incident by using racial slurs AND by throwing the first punch.

            And no, she didn’t use “morose” correctly. I have a master’s degree and have mostly finished off a doctorate in English literature and have taught English at the college and university level for a couple of decades. Google can confirm this. Her use of morose wasn’t even in the ballpark. “Morose means “moody” or “sullen.” Which makes literally no sense in the context in which she used it.

            And if you are going to propose to school someone on vocabulary, the least you can do is stand behind your words with your real name.

          • guest

            So, let me get this straight. White witnesses are saying the white women started it, so they are right, but other witnesses, including blacks are saying that the girls started it, but they are lying? Um, okay. Fox tends to report the truth, so that’s probably why they aren’t reporting it. It’s funny, that you say you have all this and teach, but you don’t realize you should capitalize certain words. HAHAHAHAHAHA!! I love how your morbidly obese ass thinks you have courage, because you post under your name. Quite frankly, you are stupid, because someone can forward all this to where you work and ruin your life. Maybe you should spend less time standing up for kids breaking the law and more time, exercising?

          • LauraAkers

            “Fox tends to report the truth, so that’s probably why they aren’t reporting it.”

            Except that fact-checking organizations, time and again, have shown that Fox regularly lies.

            http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

            What word do you believe I should have capitalized? And trust me, nothing I post here makes me look bad. Quite the opposite.

            And attacking me for my weight? Really? There’s a way to show how strong your points are. (chuckles)

          • guest

            Well, gosh if you think they have proven that, then I guess it’s true. I mean, you are the smartest person EVERRRRRRRRRR! I really don’t understand how this one article shows that they lie, but if it makes you feel better. People like you don’t like Fox, because they call people out and tell them what they don’t want to hear, so I can understand your hatred. . It’s funny how it’s also been proven that MSNBC, CNN , NBC, etc., have lied, but you don’t seem to have a problem with them? I’m not attacking you for your weight, I’m just telling the truth. Do you want to die young and just have all that brilliance go to waste? You say nothing makes you look bad, so it’s okay if I contact your employer and ask them what they think, right? Your neighbors too?

          • LauraAkers

            You just don’t get that the rest of the country and world is more civilized. I live in a liberal city. In a fairly blue state. On the West coast. All you’d accomplish is to improve what people think of me around here. Hell, even my conservative Texan friends think attitudes like yours are what’s wrong with this country and their state.

            Seriously: you racists are no longer the majority in this country. I would think the young white Texans who stood up to call out the racist adults at the pool would have shown you that. You are a dwindling minority. Even on this Texan page. Enjoy your ride into the sunset. (waves)

          • guest

            Once again, point out where I’m racist. You seem to think if someone disagrees with you, then they are a racist. You seem to think if someone tells there story, then they are racist. You seem to think if people don’t let people play the victim card, they racist. You seem to think if people see what is actually on the tape, they are racist. You seem to think, if someone sides with the cops, they are racist. Once again, where is the proof that the these adult were racist and started all of this? You seem to be the only racist one, which is why you are so preoccupied with calling other people racists!

          • LauraAkers

            You are racist when you disagree with facts (most crime against whites is committed by whites) because they are in disagreement with what you want to believe about blacks (that blacks are more dangerous than whites). You are racist because you _choose_ to believe even while admitting that we cannot know for sure, when presented with conflicting stories, to believe the one that paint black people in a negative light. You are racist because you say things like “the majority of crime in all MAJOR cities is committed by (blacks) but refuse to provide any proof (because there isn’t any other than your prejudice).

            Being racist isn’t just about using the word “nigger.” It’s about thinking of black people as deserving that term. And you clearly do.

          • guest

            Honey, these aren’t facts. This is one study that was done and all I said is that those stats include Hispanics, so it’s not ” whites” as you and all the other racists look at them. Then I proceeded to tell you about all the crime where I live and who commits it. I’m sorry, if you don’t like to hear truth and what’s happening in the real world. You believe the story which paints the whites in a negative light. So, aren’t you a racist, baby? Most of the crime in major cities is committed by blacks. I’m sorry, if that hurts your sensitivities. If you want proof, call each precinct in every major city in America and ask them who commits the most crime. Look, I’m not going to argue with your crazy, obese ass any longer. Call me ” racist” all you want. I find you to not only be a loser, but a joke! It’s funny, you said the ” n” word, but I haven’t. I think that’s the way you really think about blacks.

          • LauraAkers

            Hispanics ARE whites. Sciences only recognizes three races. And those we call Hispanics are considered Caucasian. Sorry, but science doesn’t work according to your racist beliefs.

          • guest

            Well, I asked my neighbor who is of Mexican ancestry and he said everyone he know who is Mexican does not consider themselves white, but you think whatever makes you happy. Honey, you calling me racist is getting old. No one is listening! I told you to call the government to tell them that Hispanics are white and they need to change all the forms and programs. Did you do that?

          • Cathy

            Agreed, my family has married several Mexicans and not ONE of them identify as white.The other side of my family is married to Asians and not one Asian identifies as white even though they have lighter skin than most Mexicans. No use talking to one full of PC/BS, they lie to themselves, to others, and to anyone who will listen.

          • Your mama should have SWALLOWED

          • Cathy

            Maybe Hispanics in Spain are white but the ones crawling across our borders demanding their rights, flying their flags, and dumping out an anchor baby for us to support are NOT white. The DNA of most Mexicans, for instance, is 5% black, 65% Native Indian or Native American, or mongoloid, or whatever the new PC term for them is, and about 30% Caucasian. Now, YOU may spin that as ‘white’ but I don’t and neither does anyone I know Miss Smarter Than Everyone On The Thread.

          • LauraAkers

            Not sure where your numbers came from so I did a simple google search for the DNA makeup of Mexicans, and low and behold (though not surprisingly), your numbers are off. According to peer-reviewed research (you, know, the reliable kind) by the American Society of Human Genetics, the mix is on average: 58.96% European, 10.03% African and 31.05% Asian. That’s what happens when you massacre the indigineous populations–your DNA becomes dominant.

            http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2006/11/ashg-2006-abstracts.html

          • guest

            How dare they go after the Indians, it’s not like the Indians were attacking the white men and it’s not like the Indians took the land from someone too. You know, they just sprouted up from seeds.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Be careful arguing with idiots. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. It would be aggressive to presume that “guest” would be able to articulate the meaning of a word. She has a 10th grade education at best.

          • guest

            I told you I just have a college degree. I am dumb! You know, it probably comes from living in all those parks!!

          • Cathy

            Right, anyone who does not fall into the PC/BS is an uneducated fool. Whatever. May you live around these blacks thugs and see how that works out for you. Go the hood. Nope, you probably live in a lily white area then feel superior for being not racist.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            I don’t understand what you are trying to say. Are you trying to insult me? Your post is not well articulated, thus, any response would not satisfy the debate that you seek. These blog sites are excellent therapy for cowardly racists to insult their superiors anonymously as most of these people work with people that they hate, because of differences that they have not matured to understand yet, but they are truly cowards that don’t want to get their ass beaten, thus, they say all the cruel and inhuman slurs and insults from a keyboard. #losers!

          • LauraAkers

            What precisely do you mean “a school record”? We all have school records. Do you mean she had committed some infraction of the rules at school? What is your source for this information? Let’s see a citation.

          • Jerome Mazandarani

            I feel bad for all of the self righteous white people on here you’ve upset with your intelligent replies.

          • guest

            I feel bad for all the morons like you who think her replies are actually intelligent. Please point out how they are intelligent. Please back up anything she has said with evidence. She can’t seem to do it. She also is constantly contradicting herself.

          • guest

            Yes, it’s on the internet . Put down your second pizza and go look!

          • LauraAkers

            And yet you cannot point to it. Funny, that. Also, I cannot eat pizza. I’m lactose intolerant. 😉

          • guest

            Um, they have pizza without cheese. All morbidly obese people say they don’t eat ” bad” foods. I seriously doubt you have friends. I’m thinking you are unemployed and at home. If you are at work, why are you on the internet. I’m pretty sure you are not supposed to be doing anything personal while at work. I also picked on your unattractive face too, didn’t I. You know, they have apps that edit and can make you look like a 4, at least. Now, go look for her record.

          • LauraAkers

            I’m at home because I just had a child, silly. And my husband and I make enough money that I can afford to stay at home for a while. Why are you at home and on the internet all day? Living off the state?

          • guest

            You said you are a professor, but you are a stay-at-home mom. Aren’t you too old to have a child? You are such a liar! Living off of your husband is just as bad as living off of the state. Plenty of mothers work and have babies. If you stay home, you should be able to exercise. I’m just saying. I’m on the internet this week, because there is this thing called ” vacation.” When you actually work, you get a week, or two.

          • LauraAkers

            You really do have a reading comprehension issue. I never mentioned what I was doing for a living right this minute. Try again.

          • guest

            You are a liar! I got you!

          • LauraAkers

            “And no, she didn’t use “morose” correctly. I have a master’s degree and have mostly finished off a doctorate in English literature and have taught English at the college and university level for a couple of decades.”

            “Have taught.” As opposed to “am teaching,” which would be present tense. Seriously, this is elementary level grammar. I know you didn’t go to college but did you really not even get far enough to learn past from present?

            As for the present, I have been working in the corporate world for the last few years. So the only thing you have revealed is your own problems with simple grammar.

            And rather than begging me to leave you alone, perhaps you should just stop digging bigger and bigger holes for yourself and then handing me the shovel. This stops whenever you want it to.

          • guest

            Do you have split personalities? You keep changing your story and adding things. Thanks for the English lesson. I’m actually okay with you pointing out how stupid I am, it just makes you look bad and shows how insecure you are. Sorry, if I don’t remember word for word what you have written. You just go on and on and on, so I really just tend to browse what you have written. There is something really wrong with you. You have to win and show how YOU think you are smarter than everyone. I really think it has to do with the way you look and the fact that you don’t get any attention IRL, ESPECIALLY from your husband.

          • Cathy

            The denigrating remarks about your grammar proves she has to attack you instead of the proof of your words.

          • guest

            I’m okay with it, but thanks. I really can’t believe she is real. You can never tell on these things, if someone just steals pics, because I can’t believe people are stupid enough to put their real info out there. Can you?

          • Trailer trash Cathy..

          • Cathy

            So, having a degree means you’re not a hater or a racist? Really?

          • LauraAkers

            Nope. Just means I know what “morose” means.

            But as an educator, I definitely do hate willful ignorance.

          • guest

            She is lying. She now says she is an educator, but the other day she said she worked some place else and the day before that, she said she was a stay-at-home mom. Don’t believe her bs.

          • LauraAkers

            Go back to my Facebook page and you can see pics of my child. Yep, I am a 47 year old mom and proud as hell of him and myself for having such a healthy boy at my age when I was in a financially comfortable enough situation to really enjoy him in the months I choose to not work. Not everyone has been as responsible nor as lucky to be in such a position. But after working and putting my hubby through college so he could support us all during this time, we both decided that it was the best thing for all of us, especially since I needed to recover after I almost died delivering my son (for reasons that had zero to do with age or weight–same thing happened to a skinny 28 year old at the hospital a couple of night later).

            Not that I need to explain any of this to you, of course. Because NO stay at home mother should have to explain the choice her family makes in this area any more than any woman who goes back to work two weeks later has to explain that choice.

            Seriously, is there any low you will not stoop to? Many stay at home moms are not as lucky as me and my family. They deserve our support in doing what is right for their families. Same as working mothers.

            But thank you removing any shred of doubt anyone may have had: you really are a terrible, amoral, unfeeling human being. Attacking stay at home moms? Who the hell does something like that?

          • guest

            Why would good mother tell a perfect stranger to go look at pics on their Facebook page, of their child? Why would you tell complete strangers where you live, what you do and your whole situation. You may think you are the smartest person on Earth, but you seem to have zero common sense and you also seem to be very insecure and you protest way too much. Maybe go get some help for this? I didn’t attack them, I told the truth. Why can you call people racist and all these other things, based on your opinion and call it truth, but no one else can? You need to exercise, or go back to work, because you seem to be bored and spend all your time putting down people and fighting with them on the internet. If people don’t have the money and have kids, why should I support that? Don’t have them, until you can afford them. Not having them is not the end of the world. Your child isn’t going to do anything great for this world, especially with a mother like you.

          • soccermomx3

            Wow, you succeeded in making this thread all about YOU.

          • LauraAkers

            By responding to attacks on my person? (chuckles)

          • LauraAkers

            BTW, you are endlessly entertaining. My friends are talking about making popcorn while they watch…

            And before you even try: cannot eat popcorn either. Whatever will you have left to say when you run out of comments about my weight?

          • LauraAkers

            BTW, googled “Tatiana Rhodes school records.” Nothing turned up. Even on the conservative propaganda sites. Funny that.

          • guest

            That’s because she is a little angel, sweetie. That poor little black girl just got called all those horrific names and was hit by that fat old white lady, who looks a lot like you. It wasn’t the other way around. I mean, how could it be. You are going to look like quite the fool when I truth comes out and the residents begin to sue. Just like you looked like a fool when the Ferguson results came out.

          • LauraAkers

            (laughs) So you admit that there is currently no proof that she had any kind of a school record. That you literally pulled your claim out of an alternate orifice.

            The whole reason I argue with people like you is to allow you to hoist yourself on your own petard, to reveal who and what you are. In this case, we have discovered that you are a racist so invested in your prejudice that you literally cannot see things placed directly before you (like the fact that the girl was dragged by the hair), that your reading comprehension and vocabulary are approximately 6th grade level, that you don’t understand how science or even facts work, that you make claims so ridiculous that a 60 second Google search is enough to refute them, that when called on any of this, you resort to ad hominem attacks, and that you aren’t even clever enough to give your sock monkey account a name and fake picture.

            Congrats! You have made your side look like the troglodyte fools they are, and thus my work here is done.

            Don’t be too morose. It is only a matter of time before you find yourself spanked again for your knuckle-dragging views and poor writing skills. Ta!

          • wolfetone

            “Morose”? I don’t think that word means what you think it does . . . http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/morose

          • redreyvn

            “It’s the same old platitude: equate one bad behavior with an even more morose one.”

            “Morose”? I hope English isn’t your first language.

        • Madi Dear

          I’m pretty sure racist white people like blacks to be subservient.

          • Jacki Cook

            I have seen more racism among blacks than whites in recent years, and it all lines up with Obama’s time in the presidency. He and his ilk like nothing more than keep blacks angered at white society and to gin up whatever events occur where blacks and whites converge. Can you explain why he felt it necessary to have his administration represented at all the funerals of the black dead, even Michael Brown, who has been proven to have caused his own demise, yet not one person was dispatched for the murdered Asian cop in NY? This man’s family was not even contacted with a condolence…. If this isn’t racial, what is? Why did Michael Brown get a hero’s burial, not to mention a memorial park named for him, and the real hero, the cop who was shot just for being on duty to serve others, was totally ignored? Racial animus, pure and simple.

          • tickticktick

            Hey, dumb lady. No one ignored that officer’s murder or funeral (see this story about the hero’s burial he received: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Thousands-Expected-at-Slain-Officers-Funeral-Wenjian-Liu-287448771.html) and the murderer who was responsible killed himself. No sane person thinks the police should be randomly murdered and, when they’re killed, sane people want justice. The problem is when the police act in irresponsible ways–especially toward black folks–people like you, Fox News anchors and, worst of all, prosecutors work to prevent their being held accountable.

            And, as shown in the case of the murdered officer’s funeral, you clearly don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about.

          • trueroxfan

            In Jacki’s defense, the problem isn’t that “Rev” Jackson, AG Holder, and President Obama have spoken in defense of black youth when there is an incident involving potential police violence/abuse of force. The problem has been that on NUMEROUS occasions in the last 5-6 years, Obama, Holder, and co. have immediately jumped to the defense of these young black males, without ANY evidence of their guilt or innocence.

            Explain to me how it isn’t racist to assume the police are guilty of abuse because a black teen loses his/her life? The media and our leaders should never pick a side, they are deliberately being divisive because that is what Democrats do. They divide us into groups, they drive us to hate and envy one another. Why? Politics people. Don’t be so naive.

            Now to this story, there have been so many of these “race-issue” incidents with police in recent years that have turned out to be flat out lies, that I won’t comment on who was or was not guilty in this situation. The fact is, we don’t know half of what happened that day, and until we do, it is irresponsible for EITHER side to pick or choose who was innocent and who was guilty.

            Moral of the story: STOP BLAMING RACE UNTIL ALL THE FACTS COME OUT — and that goes for EVERY case.

          • tickticktick

            I defy you to actually find a statement by Obama where he jumped to the defense of say, Michael Brown. What he said, in fact, was that a history of mistreatment and mistrust was making things worse in the Brown case. That’s undeniably true. And then, when the grand jury refused to indict, he said, “It’s an outcome that, either way, was going to be the subject of intense disagreement. We need to accept that this decision was the grand jury’s to make. There are Americans who agree with it, and there are Americans who are deeply disappointed — even angry. It’s an understandable reaction.”

            If you hear in that a “defense” of Michael Brown, then that’s because you want an excuse to call Obama a racist.

          • trueroxfan

            Trayvon Martin? It was blatantly obvious what Obama was doing when he made those comments — he was looking to stir up his ethnic minority base and show that he was “black.” He didn’t wait for any facts to come out, he came out in clear defense of Trayvon and said if it was his son, he would like Trayvon.

            I don’t remember his specific comments about Brown, but I do know that AG Holder has a history of using federal resources to encourage and assist protests against police in instances of perceived racial injustice. I don’t remember if it was the Martin or the Brown case that Holder did this, but it’s all documented and true. I don’t think Obama is a racist, I think he is a politician. A politician that is using the history, fear, and anger of his main voting demographic to improve his dipping popularity ratings.

          • tickticktick

            Be smarter. The Holder DoJ actually cleared the cop in the Brown case. If that’s using the DoJ against the police, then Holder’s very bad at it.

            Also, here’s the full transcript of Obama’s Trayvon Martin speech. There is absolutely nothing in this speech that defends Trayvon or admonishes the judicial system. He merely tries to explain why the situation could be perceived so differently by people with different backgrounds. “I think it’s important to recognize that the African- American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that — that doesn’t go away.”

            Obama’s the only person in the public eye that’s actually talking about race in a fair and even way–a take that could be very useful if folks like you (and me, to be fair) would just listen to him instead of listening to Hannity or Limbaugh or Levin play one sentence and then twist his meaning beyond recognition.

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-obamas-remarks-on-trayvon-martin-full-transcript/2013/07/19/5e33ebea-f09a-11e2-a1f9-ea873b7e0424_story.html

          • guest

            Um, you missed the part where he said Trayvon could have been his son. None of the people protesting have experienced any of this? A lot of whites have experienced the violent wrath of blacks. Why can’t we use that as an excuse? I have had 3 murders, 2 assaults, and many robberies committed within 1/2 a mile of where I live. All done by black males. Why is it racist if someone likes me is scared of black men, but not racist to tell blacks to be scared of white cops?

          • tickticktick

            I grew up in a town with no black people. None in the whole county, in fact, yet we still had murders. I’m not scared of white people.
            Because I’m not a dumbass.

          • guest

            Did I say ONLY blacks commit murders, uneducated moron? Do you know how to comprehend what you are reading. I was talking about cops and how blacks can be afraid of white cops, yet whites, especially cops aren’t allowed to be afraid of blacks, even though the majority of crime in all MAJOR cities is committed by them. Do you understand, or do I need to simplify it even more for you? Also, where did you grow up, so I can check your facts?

          • tickticktick

            No. You said you’re scared of black people. Fine, I get it, already. You’re a racist.

          • guest

            You are scared of white cops. I get it, you are a racist! You look for ways to attack whites. I get it.. You are a racist! You support criminals. I get it. You are a criminal!

          • tickticktick

            85 percent of white people are killed by white people. 90 percent of black people are killed by black people. If you’re scared of black people and are white, it’s because you’re a bigot.

          • guest

            Honey, that false stat you and other people throw out, also included Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, etc. So, when you say ” white,” it’s not the ” white” you think it is. I care about the real world, the city I live in and the area around me. 98 percent of the crime, where I live, is committed by blacks. That’s the truth. If it makes you feel better to call me a racist and a bigot…go for it! Once again, people with an IQ over 100 will see I did not say I’m scared of black people.

          • tickticktick

            So…you’re saying you’re not racist because I didn’t account for Hispanic folks skewing the crime stats? That is over. The. Top. Racist.

          • guest

            What? I’m telling you that your fake stats are skewed. You think ” whites” are just Anglo-Saxon. Do you know what that means?

          • tickticktick

            I said you needn’t worry about black people, since, if you’re white, you’re far more likely to be killed by another white person, according to statistics. You said, and I paraphrase, that there’s some brown in that there white and so the stats were skewed. Pretty friggin racist.

          • guest

            So, telling you the truth, is ” pretty friggin’ racist? I told you every non-black around me has been killed by someone who is black, so I’m 100 percent sure you are wrong! I told you, you need to get your ass out in the real world and not depend so much on stats, BECAUSE THEY ARE WRONG! Did you see the study from a couple of years ago? You know the one that said blacks have lower IQs? If you believe these studies, then I guess you have to believe that one, right? Do you just believe the ones that tell you what you want to hear?

          • LauraAkers

            Wow. So all the non-blacks around you have been murdered? That’s quite the crime spree. Surely we would have heard of a town in which all non-blacks had been massacred.

          • 6660splendidday

            Moderators who are supposed to police these sites should not allow a frequent Poster to suddenly become a “Guest” The style of writing is obvious and that allows the “Guest” to not take responsibility for their comments . Also it is unfair to think that the “Guest” is actually supporting the person who in another instance has a name., when in fact they are the same person.

          • LauraAkers

            Yep. It’s an obvious sock puppet. Who still doesn’t know what “morose” means but certainly knows how to act in a morose manner when called on her crap.

          • guest

            You really seem to have a problem with punctuation, don’t you?

          • guest

            Honey, I’ve only been posting under ” guest.” Whenever someone does not have a good argument, they always go after the name you post under.

          • guest

            Um, did I say blacks kill EVERYONE ? When I said, ” all,” it was in reference to all the people who have been killed around me, not all the people in the city. Tell me again, how smart and educated you are. Sweetie, please learn to comprehend what you are reading, okay?

          • LauraAkers

            “I told you every non-black around me has been killed by someone who is black”

            Yes, you indeed said that every single non-black around you had been killed by a black person. Which means that all the non-black people around you are dead. Your inability to communicate is not my problem. Had you attended one of my classes, trust me, you would not be making such an obvious and (really) funny mistake.

          • guest

            Yes, every single one who has been killed, not every non-black in the city. It’s pretty clear. It’s the way you are reading it, just like the way you are viewing the video. You don’t seem to see what is really there. No, I didn’t go to a community college, or crappy university, so I never attended any of your crappy classes. Your inability to understand what is written is probably the reason why there are so many dumb kids.

          • LauraAkers

            I have a few degrees in reading things. I’m just reading what you wrote. You expressed yourself incorrectly. Don’t get morose because you got called on it.

          • guest

            I didn’t, you just see what you want to see. How you feel about the video pretty much shows that. You keep going on about your degrees. Is it because you have nothing else? If you are so smart, why aren’t you doing anything great for the world? Why aren’t you a surgeon, saving lives? Why haven’t you developed anything that the world needs? You are full of it!

          • tickticktick

            “Every non-black around me has been killed by someone who is black…” Jesus Christ! That’s awful, but I guess that’s what you get for buying a house in a Huey Newton fever dream.

          • guest

            Honey, ” every non-black around me ‘who’ has been killed. You and Laura, who are probably the same people, or who work for the same organization, really need to bone up on your reading comprehension.

          • tickticktick

            Funny, but you can look above and see what you wrote–and I copied and pasted into my post. Don’t blame my reading comprehension for your inability to express your “thoughts.”

          • guest

            Honey, this is what I wrote…”.Please show those stats to all the non-blacks that have been killed within a 1/2 of a mile of where I live. ” It makes sense to me. I’m sorry, if you and the other paid troll aren’t reading it the way I meant it, but that is your problem, no mine. Anyone with an IQ over 100 would realize that all the non-blacks around me have not been killed, but when you have no other argument, you have to pick on this.

          • tickticktick

            Yes, it’s wrong of me to pick on your dumbness. You can’t help it. Probably.

          • LauraAkers

            Fake stats from the Department of Justice and the FBI? Really? No wonder you cannot provide verifiable facts. You don’t believe in facts.

          • guest

            Honey, they include the groups I mention in it. Does being so fat get in the way of your thinking?

          • LauraAkers

            First, you do realize that Hispanics ARE white, right?

            Second, your racism covers a lot of groups, doesn’t it? Your pointy hat is pretty fashionable, though.

          • guest

            Honey, if you were as smart as you think you are, you would realize ” white” and ” black” are really only terms used here in America. In America, Hispanics are a minority and get special treatment just like blacks, so if they are considered ” white ” here, then why all of this? Maybe you should contact the government and tell them this? Please point out where I’ve been racist, sweetie. I’ve provided facts. You know those things you seem to be so preoccupied with.

          • borgerboy

            What town was that??

          • tickticktick

            Let it suffice for me to say it was a small one in Kansas.

          • guest

            I asked him which one, but of course he won’t tell me, because I will look up the state and see if he is lying.

          • LauraAkers

            No one needs to tell black men to be afraid of the police. They are just as capable of reading statistics and history as anyone else.

            And statistics show that if you’re white, you are more likely to be hurt by a white person than a black one. But please, don’t let the facts get in the ways of your racist fantasy.

          • guest

            Statistics show whites are killed by cops more often, but please don’t let the facts stand in the ways of your racist fantasy. Please show those stats to all the non-blacks that have been killed within a 1/2 of a mile of where I live. Oh, wait! You can’t! They are dead. I guess you can tell my neighbor who was robbed at gunpoint, or my other neighbor who was chased in a car, because she honked the horn at a person going through a red light. I will make sure to tell the cops, if you are ever hurt, or killed by a person who happens to be black, that this is not possible, because whites are more likely to be hurt, or killed by another white person.

          • LauraAkers

            That’s because there are more whites in this country. But more more blacks are killed per capita. Do you understand what per capita means? And tell me where you live and I will. I’d love to see the town in which you are the only white person left alive.

          • guest

            Honey, where did I say, I was the only white person left alive? So, in the case of the cops, you think the stats mean ” per capita,” but when someone says, ” more blacks commit more crimes and murders,” you don’t. Why is that? If you are just so smart, why can’t you see how you contradict yourself? I was being sarcastic when I said you can ask them. You really aren’t as smart as you think.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

          • trueroxfan

            Holy hell, are you serious? The DOJ TRIED TO PURSUE CHARGES DESPITE THE FBI CLEARING HIM….lol — revisionist

          • guest

            He can’t let the facts stand in his way.

          • LauraAkers

            You know nothing about facts. Like that they need to be verifiable.

          • guest

            What have you verified? Oh, wait! The kids say it’s true. I forgot. Kids tell the truth and adult lie!

          • LauraAkers

            Nope. I have presented studies that show that things I have said are true. Try again.

          • guest

            So, they have already done studies on what happened in McKinney? Boy, that was fast. So, then you believe all studies? I guess you believe that study which came out a few years ago, right? You remember the one where they said blacks have lower IQs? I mean, if you believe certain studies, you have to believe others.

          • LauraAkers

            You mean the study that couldn’t get published in peer-reviewed journals because its methodology was so shoddy so it had to be published by the right-wing press? That one?

          • guest

            Really? I read that the crazy, ultra- liberals like you didn’t want it published, because they didn’t want to be called ” racist.” So, because you didn’t agree with it, the ” methodology was shoddy?”

          • LauraAkers

            No, the experts in the field, regardless of their political positions, said that the methodology was shoddy. My opinion wasn’t really important because I’m not an expert in that particular field.

          • guest

            Really? I found a NY times article which clearly stated they scored lower on IQ tests. Google and see.

          • 44blue

            Surely the major accomplishments of the free African continent – health care, infrastructure, honest governments – scream more loudly to this than any studies would.

            Pitiful, just pitiful.

            When Desmond Tutu got so irritated by the South African’s bureaucracy (too incompetent to get the Dali Lama’s paperwork in order in time for his anticipated visit to Bishop Tutu), when Tutu said it was worse now than under apartheid! That was a shocker!
            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/8807080/Tutu-South-African-government-is-worse-than-apartheid-after-Dalai-Lama-visa-row.html. When Bishop Desmond Tutu said SA is more violent than under apartheid – shocking! http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/2013/04/12/sa-more-violent-now-than-under-apartheid-says-tutu

            Surely Bishop Tutu is a true friend ( and role model) to blacks.
            Perhaps it’s time to stop blaming black failure on white people, and create black successes. You want to blame people? Blame the rioters in Fergueson who burned black businesses and took away the jobs of those employed there. Get angry that “space to destroy” was permitted in Baltimore – that Democrat bastion – and Ms. Marilyn Mosby isn’t prosecuting rioters, too. Stop- being controlled like puppets by the media ( buying into this sloppyily written article, for example). Stop pretending all the whites are devils. What a great country this would be with true integration, and success!

          • LauraAkers

            And all of this above garbage has exactly what to do with the scientifically flawed conclusion that blacks are intellectually inferior?

            Are you saying that all the problems black people face is because they are intellectually inferior to whites?

          • guest

            As a whole, YES! Most whites are inferior to those of Asian descent too. Other groups have been treated even more horribly and have risen. 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust ;families were decimated and they still rose up, didn’t blame people, even though they should have, and became the most successful people. Italians were lynched, discriminated against and in some places treated more horribly than blacks, but you never hear about it, because they never used that as an excuse. They worked hard and became successful. When you have people constantly making excuse and blaming others, you just stay at the bottom.

          • 44blue

            No. I’m saying Africa is a continent run by black people, and they’re doing a horrible, horrible job of it. That can’t be attributed to colonialism, since India, corrupt as it is, is booming. India has a similar colonial past.
            Obviously, there are brilliant black people. I admire Bishop Tutu, as I admired MLK, also.
            The majority of people of both races are mediocre and petty.
            Africa – the dark continent – is deliberately overlooked by blacks who blame all their failures and problems on white people.

          • tickticktick

            Actually, no. The DoJ investigated and then pursued no charges.

          • 44blue

            Holder sure gave it a try, though. Best effort, no luck.
            Obama repeatedly brings Al Sharpton into the White House as a race adviser . Al Sharpton. (Twana Brawley? Owes the IRS millions? Two fires in his NYC offices , classified as “suspicious ” by NYFD, which allegedly destroyed necessary IRS paperwork?) Al Sharpton is a professional race-baiter, so distasteful that Freddie Gray’s family distanced themselves.
            Obama isn’t subtle.
            His greedy wife, and her bogus free trips, are not subtle. (The UK has better education for girls than we do, and they don’t need her help regarding nutrition, either.)
            Dragging those sullen daughters over the world, letting the mother-in-law live in the White House…the Obamas are almost like a parody of the negative black “git free gubmint stuff” stereotypes.

            American “royal embarassment”is more like it. Or, are we not allowed to notice these things, if we’re white?

            Rachel Dolezal played her lies to the right crowd… and, believe it or not, some decent white Americans are truly sad to see decent black Americans have to carry the extra burden imposed by contentious self-seeking Professional Victims. Bad enough to have to overcome regular racism; harder than ever with the antics of the disgusting “thugs” getting all the media attention.

          • tickticktick

            I read “Blah blah Al Sharpton blah blah dog whistle blah blah something about presidential trips that didn’t bother me when Bush was in office blah blah I have issues with black people.”

          • 44blue
          • trueroxfan

            Yes — they dropped charges WELL AFTER the FBI said there was no evidence of a hate crime….PAY ATTENTION

          • tickticktick

            Actually, since no charges were filed, none were dropped. Which makes you wrong. (Ironic, since you told me to pay attention, no?)

          • trueroxfan

            They dropped the investigation — excuse me for not editing. Point still stands. Try again.

          • tickticktick

            Still wrong, genius. They COMPLETED their investigation, as investigators are wont to do, and decided against charges. That’s exactly how it’s supposed to work. Learn something.

          • tickticktick

            No. they completed the investigation, as investigators do, and decided no charges should be filed. Please learn how things work.

          • trueroxfan

            Apparently you still don’t understand the point. The FBI found NO EVIDENCE TO CHARGE HIM WITH A HATE CRIME, YET THE DOJ STILL CONTINUED TO PUSH AND CALLED FOR AN INVESTIGATION AFTER THE FBI HAD ALREADY FOUND NOTHING.

            Holy hell you are slow.

          • tickticktick

            Oy. You’re actually even dumb for a bigot. You accuse Obama of ginning up something, despite the fact they conducted an investigation and didn’t charge anyone and you’re too dumb to realize the FBI INVESTIGATION AND THE DOJ INVESTIGATION WERE THE SAME INVESTIGATION, so your confused point that the FBI found nothing before they began their investigation is not only wrong, but IMPOSSIBLE.

            Go be dumb somewhere around dumb people who can’t read well enough to call you on your s**t.

            Here’s the statement: “The shooting incident in Ferguson, Missouri this weekend deserves a fulsome review. In addition to the local investigation already underway, FBI agents from the St. Louis field office, working together with attorneys from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division and US Attorney’s Office, have opened a concurrent, federal inquiry. The federal investigation will supplement, rather than supplant, the inquiry by local authorities. At every step, we will work with the local investigators, who should be prepared to complete a thorough, fair investigation in their own right. I will continue to receive regular updates on this matter in the coming days. Aggressively pursuing investigations such as this is critical for preserving trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve.” http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-holder-recent-shooting-incident-ferguson-missouri

          • trueroxfan

            Typical race baiting lib. You lose on facts, so you just start calling people bigots and racists. The fact is the DOJ working with the FBI does not make it the same investigation. They are two separate agencies, and it was NOT a joint-agency investigation. Working together is not synonymous for one single, joint-investigation. You obviously know very little about how government agencies and investigations work. The FACT is the FBI had concluded their investigation PRIOR to the DOJ coming out and saying they were looking into potential hate crime charges. Why would the FBI release statements saying they cleared him, but then the DOJ came out AFTER and said they were investigating the claims? Why? Because it wasn’t a joint-investigation. You lose. Try again. This time preferably with some legitimate facts.

          • tickticktick

            Oy. The system worked like it was supposed to, no one was charged and you still think that shows some sort of bias. Please go be dumb somewhere else.

          • trueroxfan

            Not at all. The system worked as it was supposed to because there was no evidence of a hate crime. The DOJ wasted money on a political investigation to appease blacks. Anyone with half a brain knows that is what Holder was doing and anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that Holder and Obama were in cahoots. I am sorry you are blind to the obvious.

          • guest

            He did jump to the defense and blamed the cops with Michael Brown. Michael Brown did this to himself. He robbed a store, assaulted a cop and tried to take his gun. 3 investigations have proved this. People in Ferguson were not mistreated. Stop playing victim and making excuses.

          • Jacki Cook

            Thanks for your common sense.

          • guest

            These people are just so sad. They want video cameras and then when the video cameras show these resisting arrest and starting fights they still turn it around and the people defending themselves still get into trouble. It’s just amazes me.

          • LauraAkers

            Um…don’t bother talking to your sock puppet. You’re fooling no one.

          • tickticktick

            Again: Show me an actual statement in which he objectively defended Michael Brown or blamed the cops in that case. You can’t. Quit listening to right wing radio nutters and think for yourself.

          • guest

            Honey, they are on the internet. Go look for yourself. He made a whole speech defending him. You have a really low IQ, so you probably can’t comprehend things very well. I don’t listen to talk radio. Maybe you should stop listening to left wing media and think for yourself?

          • tickticktick

            You’re a terrible reader, pal.

          • guest

            I guess that comment means I’M RIGHT!

          • tickticktick

            No. It means that you still can’t actually point to a place where Obama actually defends Trayvon or Michael Brown. You simply can’t, despite the fact you still fully believe they exist.

          • guest

            Honey, why is it so hard for you to go to yo tube a look at the videos? He blames the cops and society for what happened. There is something just not right about you. Think about getting some help, sweetie.

          • tickticktick

            Again, you’re just not that smart.

          • guest

            Again, you’re just not that smart and you have a mental disorder.

          • 44blue

            “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon Martin” – ring any bells?

          • tickticktick

            No, because that’s not what he said. What he did say was that people should try to understand each other, because they’re viewing the event from different perspectives due to the history of race in America. That does not equate in any way to a defense of Trayvon.

            Read, for once: “…there’s going to be a lot of arguments about the legal issues in the case — I’ll let all the legal analysts and talking heads address those issues. The judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. The prosecution and the defense made their arguments. The juries were properly instructed that in a case such as this reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. And once the jury has spoken, that’s how our system works. But I did want to just talk a little bit about context and how people have responded to it and how people are feeling.

            “You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.

            “There are very few African American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me — at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

            “And I don’t want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida.”

            https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/07/19/remarks-president-trayvon-martin

          • Kyle

            Just playing devil’s advocate here. As I’ve been reading this thread other people have cited and quoted Obama speeches showing a rather impartial stance. They bothered to back up their claims with evidence. Would you mind citing one specific instance to back up your claim that Obama has incited some racial tensions for his own gain please? I’m not saying he has or hasn’t, doing a cursory look through the internet hasn’t given me any results. Can you tell me like what speech it was at least that this happened?

          • guest

            Do you really think he is going to come out and say that? He’s up there telling people that they have a right to feel this way and that it’s all the cop’s fault. This tells kids that hey if the Pres is saying that, then it must be true, even if it’s not. I’m sorry, if you aren’t smart enough to realize this. You must get screwed over a lot in life? They are all over you tube and archived on the news websites. Go look at them.

          • 44blue

            You don’t do your position any favors by calling people ” Honey” and then personally attacking them as “ugly” and “low IQ” when they disagree.

          • LauraAkers

            Please show proof. Should be easy enough if he did this.

          • guest

            Honey, look up the over 200 page report from the investigation. Jesus, You are lazy!

          • LauraAkers

            So are you physically UNABLE to provide a link?

          • guest

            I don’t want to! Go and look it up. You didn’t read the 200+ report? You seem to think if people don’t provide links then it’s not true and if you provide them, they are not only legitimate, but that somehow it makes you right.

          • LauraAkers

            I’ve already looked up one of your claims using your own words and there’s simply nothing there. It doesn’t exist. You’re a liar who made up the whole claim about Tatiana Rhodes’ supposed “school record.”

            No one is under any obligation to treat what you say as anything other than paranoid fantasy unless you provide proof which you obviously cannot do. So we will just save time and assume everything you say is false.

          • guest

            Okay, baby. You are right. I’m a liar. You are right about everything. You must be an utter joy to be around IRL. The ugly ones always think they are right about everything and only think their opinions matter. I wonder if it’s because they have nothing else?

          • 44blue

            You’re telling the truth. Eric Holder went into Fergueson and did his best to find a civil rights violation. Couldn’t do it. All he could find were a couple of interdepartmental emails denigrating black people, which the media trumpeted as loudly as possible as police “racism”.
            Michael Brown’s stepfather was filmed inciting riot (no prosecution), his mom and grandmother assaulted each other, fighting over tacky “Michael Brown” merchandise, and no rioters were prosecuted, though they destroyed small businesses owned by black people. “Hands up, don’t shoot” was a lie, a total lie, as the DoJ investigation concluded.

            Some black folks are trash, and thugs.

            “American royalty” has to be the most deluded description of Obama, ever. In your dreams, buddy!

            As for you, “tick,tick,tick”, you’ve chosen a threat as your screen name? Wow.

          • guest

            Um, I’m guest, not tick tick.

          • Jacki Cook

            Obama and and his wife are the most racist people to ever occupy the White House….Hear Michelle’s latest race rant? She makes the office of First Lady an embarrassing place to be.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Well, you would never, ever, ever, have to worry about being there. lol. Imagine you being in the White House. hahahahahaha. The nerve of Poor white trash like you thinking that they can insult American royalty. By the way, you can’t end a sentence with a preposition.

          • tickticktick

            Acknowledging the country’s struggles with race is only racist to racists who get their feelings hurt. Sorry, Jacki, but no one cares how sad you are that you can’t be blatantly racist anymore.

          • guest

            So, why are you acknowledging how racists blacks are. I’ve been around more blacks who hate whites, simply for being white, than vice versa.

          • tickticktick

            I don’t believe you.

          • guest

            Well, then I guess I’m lying, because what you say goes!

          • 44blue

            Now she’s in Tower Hamlets, in London, playing her “oppressed victim” card to a bunch of Muslim kids in an area so corrupt that the results of their recent election there were legally voided due to blatant corruption. (Yes, the corrupt Muslim politician did blame “racism” for his removal.)
            Martin Luther King was all about integration, not separation .The Obamas (and Holder, et al) work very hard at dividing our country, and seeing the results is sad. We are all Americans.

          • Jacki Cook

            Obama has, historically, “jumped to the defense” of EVERY black person involved in a crime since 2009, the Prof. Gates incident. He has always assumed the black “victim” was, in fact a victim, and was innocent, even when facts bore the opposite to e true: Gates, Martin, and Brown, for three most obvious examples.

          • tickticktick

            You still can’t actually find a statement that can be accurately described as a “defense.” You can’t. Period.

          • 6660splendidday

            Damn my lying eyes… that was really a white skinny teen-ager that the COP was slamming into the cement???
            I need to get some eyeglasses.

          • trueroxfan

            Did I say that didn’t happen? Do you know for certain all the events that lead to her being “slammed?” — that is my point. From my POV, it looks like the cop was using excessive force, how that equates to racism is ridiculous. Not saying he ISN’T a racist. I don’t know him. I don’t know his history. Neither do any of you. You can’t just see a police officer take down a black person and assume the black person is innocent because his or her friends said so — see Michael Brown.

            What I did see, was right before he got extra physical, two of the girls friends ran up to the cop as if they were going to try to save her — BAD IDEA — don’t F with a cop in the middle of an arrest, how stupid do you have to be to think that would end well for ANYONE?!

          • 44blue

            When the horrible, horrible murders at the church happened, were you shocked that Obama didn’t postpone his fundraising trip? Surprised me.
            That was so tragic, and it’s an historically significant black church. I thought he would go to Charleston.
            All the other politicians seemed to cancel their events.

          • trueroxfan

            Did it surprise me? Only because they were black victims, and he seems to be quick to make public addresses for black victims of atrocities. I get it though, you’re black, you feel a connection to the black community — especially since we’ve never had a black president — but that is as a racist as a white president only commenting on white events. The fact that he didn’t cancel his campaign events isn’t all that surprising, he’s done it before.

          • guest

            People like you don’t hold any blacks accountable. You are making excuses for these kids, who were out-of-control and have ruined lives, because of it.

          • tickticktick

            I hold everyone accountable when they should be–even cops. You can’t leap to their defense at every turn and then act like you’re being even-handed.

          • guest

            You say you hold everyone accountable, but yet you don’t think these kids should be punished. Can you explain that one? This cop did nothing wrong. He is being railroaded and apologized , because his lawyer probably told him it would help him not get sued by these money hungry grubs. It’s not, because all of this was just about money and going after whites. Really? Tell me what cops were wrong. The one cop in SC was the only one and even that guy was running away from cops, which is illegal. Name one of these people who have been innocent and please provide facts and evidence.

          • tickticktick

            There were nearly a dozen policemen there. Only one felt the need to pull a gun and throw a girl to the ground by her hair. The police chief said his actions were inexcusable. I agree.

          • guest

            Honey, he was the first one on the scene in that area. They surrounded him and were advancing him. He pulled the gun on the two kids advancing him from behind. He pulled it out and was not pointing it at them. Once he got it out of his holster, it was pointed down. What else is he supposed to do when a mob of kids aren’t listening to him and coming after him? He did not throw her to the ground by her hair. He pushed her and pushed her head to the ground, because the brat was resisting. The police chief said that to keep his job and to stop the paid protesters from rioting and ruining the city like they always do. It’s funny how you won’t describe the actions of the kids as ” inexcusable.” This tells me you are a criminal, or someone who breaks the law.

          • tickticktick

            Look at the video, genius. As soon as he pulled his gun, two cops rush into the frame, clearly afraid he’s about to shoot that kid. He was not alone at the scene. He was alone in acting like an ass.

          • guest

            They rushed in to help him, you moron. Jesus, you just see what you want to see and not actually really happened. HE WAS ALONE AT FIRST. Do you see invisible cops there with him? The girl was not alone in acting like an ass and a criminal!

          • tickticktick

            Earlier in the video, before Casebolt even shows up, you see a policeman treating kids with respect. I see what’s there, man. Actually watch the video again. It ought to be taught in police academies: THIS is how you act, not THIS.

          • guest

            So, a cop was treating this particular group of kids with respect and he was the first one on the scene? Please show me. I see a bunch of cops running after kids, trying to get them to sit . They then finally get them to listen, except for this group. He is by himself trying to get them under control. Look, you are a criminal. Of course, you will side with the kids breaking the law. You will never admit that you are to blame for the way your sad life has turned out.

          • tickticktick

            Watch it here: Listen to the guy speaking politely with the kids at around :30, then Casebolt runs in, losing his mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JqRKKAlkOg

          • guest

            Um, I went to 30 and don’t even see him coming in to after. That’s what they are taught to do, sweetie. He did not lose his mind. Don’t worry. From now one, they will send all these innocent little angels to time out. Will that make you happy, or will you find something wrong with that too? OMG!! He made those poor kids sit down on the ground. What a horrible man. Also, you can’t hear what the kids are saying to him. I find it funny that these kids can swear, play music that has words which are even more horrible in in, have sex, etc, but what a cop says is just too sensitive for their little ears. I’m giving up on you. You are a criminal and will never see the truth.

          • tickticktick

            Buh-bye.

          • 44blue

            Your incessent use of “honey” and “sweetie” is irritating and unpalatable, especially when you drop the veil of false (and patronizing) civility and call others “criminal” without any basis for such a slur. Casebolt was fired – OK?

          • guest

            Honey, he resigned, because he was getting death threats. If you had ever worked, you would know the difference between resigning and being fired. Criminals side with criminals.It’s that simple!

          • 44blue

            I stand corrected; he resigned.

          • LauraAkers

            He was NOT the first one on the scene. There is a cop in the video calming talking to some of the other kids BEFORE this guy starts throwing children to the ground. It’s right there in the video. In fact, the kids who are calmly talking to the second the cop are some of those that later get cursed at by the jerk cop.

            And he dragged her by the hair. Why was that necessary? Why could he not have taken her by the arm?

            And how was she resisting when he told her to walk away, she started to walk away, and then he suddenly decides to chase her down and drag her back by the hair? We see ALL of that interaction on the video. ALL of it.

            And by the way, the kid he pulled the gun on? Has already said he is NOT planning to sue the city or the cop and wants to work with the cops and his neighbors to help young people understand how to better work with the police. What a thug…

            http://www.ibtimes.com/mckinney-update-adrian-martin-pool-partys-only-arrested-teen-wont-sue-will-teach-1960403

          • guest

            Honey, he was the first one there with those kids. He did not pull her hair. He did not chase her down. It’s very scary how you think your lies are the truth. Slow down the video and watch frame by frame, sweetie. If he had taken her by the arm, your dumb ass would be complaining about that too. He told her to walk away several times, she didn’t. He then told her to stay, because she was in trouble and that’s when she was walking away. Do you really not see anything wrong with that? Honey, he is not suing the city, because he was in the wrong and doing all of this, if it’s true, to make him look like an innocent little angel, because he knows fools like you will believe him.

          • LauraAkers

            (laughs) Okay, you have officially lost ALL credibility. We SEE him grab her and drag her back to the grass by the hair. It’s not even in dispute. All the news has SAID this is what he did because we see it in the video.

            And the kid was NOT in the wrong. That is why they dropped the charges: Because he had done nothing wrong. (SMH) Racism really makes people blind and deaf. If only it made them dumb (which means “mute” in this context, since you have a problem with vocabulary).

          • guest

            Yes, it is in dispute. He did not drag her. Do you know what drag means? I’ve listened to all the news reports and none said that he dragged her. Are you listening to opinion shows? No, they dropped the charges to appease people. He advanced the officer from behind when they should have sat down and been listening to him like so many of the other kids in the other areas. I am dumb, but like I said before, at least I’m not fat and ugly. It’s funny that you call me dumb, but then say, ” if only it made them dumb.” Well, you said I was dumb already, so that doesn’t even make sense. BTW, ” mute” never means dumb. You have to be lying about who you are?

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Do you happen to know the name of the “Asian” cop? There were actually (2) officers murdered. Officer Liang, and Officer Ramirez, of Latin descent. Calling him the Asian cop is actually, in itself, a racial slur. You are so racially insensitive that you don’t even know when you are being racist. You didn’t even bother to dignify the man with the mere mention of his name. You only chose to use him to accelerate your own racist agenda without the benefit of human care!

          • wessexmom

            Exactly.

          • trueroxfan

            I didn’t realize it was racist to observe and report someone’s race. It’s a descriptive character. When did people get so sensitive when people describe them? If you’re black, you’re black. If you’re Asian, you’re Asian. It doesn’t make you any less of a person or any less of an America, it’s just your heritage and ethnicity and it’s surface detail, you don’t have to know a thing about a person to be able to describe them by their race — that’s not racist…

          • Chauncey Nixon

            If you believe what you wrote, then the officers name would have preceded his race. We are people first, not just a color, complexion, race, creed, or religion; that said, it is racial slur if your report confines a person to an adjective. That is not sensitive, its common sense!

          • trueroxfan

            No — that is complete and utter sappy sensitivity. Do you know how many officers are in the news everyday? I live in Texas, do you think I remember the names of every victim killed or maimed in this country — especially once on the other side of the country? No . What I do know is there was a hispanic and an asian cop, and when writing on an informal board, it is totally appropriate to refer to the cop as the Asian cop, as long as the context is clear — which it was….however, some people like yourself, find racism in everything.

            Yes, we are all people first, being an Asian cop doesn’t make you any elss human than a name, it’s just a description used in place of a name to make a point — we aren’t writing research papers here.

          • guest

            It’s not. They are just morons and probably paid trolls who work for one of the black hate groups. It’s not racist, he’s just not very intelligent and can’t argue your point, so he calls you ” racist.”

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Guest = Anonymous cowardly racist. It’s like wearing a sheet to hide ones cowardly identity!

          • guest

            So, sad that you are not smart enough to come up with anything besides calling someone a ” racist,” because they call you out.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            It’s more sad to be a racist; but its redeeming that you are a powerless, poor white trash, racist. Like the infantry of the military, the dignitaries send you in to do their dirty work because you are expendable!

          • guest

            Honey, people like you use racist so much, that people are starting to laugh at you and not take you seriously. Whenever someone calls you out, disagrees, or throws facts out that you can’t refute, you call them one.You are the one coming across as racist. Hate to tell you that. Your last sentence shows your mental problems.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            You claimed that nothing I wrote made sense, so, I dumbed it down for you as you are seemingly, extremely uneducated. As it stands, your grammar is too poor for me to continue as you will reduce me to mediocrity just to converse with you. That said, goodbye, go argue with some idiot neighbor in your trailer park!

          • guest

            Okay. You go argue with your neighbor in your jail cell, or your room mate in the crazy house.

          • 44blue

            Bahaha! Good one!

          • Jacki Cook

            Thank God, someone with some sense.

          • guest

            Are you kidding? So, I’ve heard blacks say ” that white cop.” They are being racist then right? My Asian friends said the ” Asian cop,” so you are gull of shit and look for any chance to scream ” racism.” You are really sad.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            I highly doubt that you have heard blacks say anything because that would require you to listen to them. Further, if you mimic what you hear others do, you are inclined to descending to the pits of society rather than practicing encouraging behavior that inspires us all to ascend! Good luck bottom feeding, when you gain an identity, feel free to emerge from behind the white sheet and join me in society for transparent conversation.

          • guest

            I do listen, but most of the time I need an interpreter. Nothing else you say makes sense. You are a paid troll hired by one of the black hate groups, basically the black KKK, so maybe you should take off our black sheet. It’s hard to have a conversation with a liar like you!

          • Jacki Cook

            No actually I didn’t…and you know why?? Because HIS name was not splashed across headlines and HIS funeral was NOT attended by a WH rep…THAT”S why.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Your ignorance is flawed. The White House attended, raised funds for, and enacted laws on behalf of Officer Liang. You are spreading lies by saying otherwise, but, I believe that it is not intentional. Many times this information doesn’t make it to trailer parks, and often, the information is printed, thus, won’t be known to the uneducated residents of the trailer park community in which you reside as most residents are grossly uneducated!

          • guest

            Really? What laws were enacted and what funds raised for him? I didn’t hear about that. Since, we all live in trailer parks and don’t have access to this info, please provide it for us. I have a college degree, but that’s all. I had to pay for it myself. I didn’t get Pell Grants and could not get money from the UNCF.

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Lets be serious. You don’t have a college degree. Another white lie!!

          • Chauncey Nixon

            I’m willing to bet my degree that you are lying about yours!

          • guest

            I’m willing to bet mine, that you don’t have one. I don’t really understand why I should care if you think I’m lying about this? I know I have a college degree, so why do I need to prove it to you?

          • Tiffany Jackson

            I love it when people use “Obama” as a scape goat for every negative event and try to back it up with rationale that is ass backward. How do we get to Obama??? It’s like watching a person with Tourettes syndrome. —The weather was nice today and then…OBAMA… the clouds came rolling in.—
            Hilarious.

          • wessexmom

            If it wasn’t so sad and pathetic.

          • trueroxfan

            I love it when people refuse to acknowledge Obama and Holder’s reckless commentary following every event involving police and black youth. They have immediately come to the defense of black youth, without any regard for the truth or facts.

            It wouldn’t have even mattered if they turned out to be correct, which they weren’t. You are the President and AG of this country, you represent ALL people, not just those you racially identify with. As a leader you should not throw your law enforcement under the bus without knowing a dang thing about the incident.

            While, yes, some people do go to the extreme with blaming Obama, in this incident (of race-relations), Obama and Holder have continuously reopened old wounds that were slowly healing.

            I honestly believe race relations have gotten far worse in the last 6 years than they had been since probably the early 90s late 80s.

            There will ALWAYS be racism. We are humans. We don’t trust others that don’t walk like us, talk like us, and look like us. Much of that is learned behavior, but the underlying principle isn’t hatred, so much as it is instinct. We as a species and as a global society have much to improve in this area, that much is for sure, but it’s kind of hard to when your leaders come out and jump the gun and turn out to be dead wrong on issues. There is a reason politicians are generally pretty generic and ambiguous in their statements, IT’S GOOD POLITICS NOT TO PICK SIDES BEFORE YOU KNOW FACTS!

          • Chauncey Nixon

            If there will always be racism why should it matter if it is better or worse? Your assertion is that there is a healthy level of racism, and we experienced this “healthy level” from, by your estimation, approximately 1994-2009, were we better off because of it?

          • trueroxfan

            Don’t quote “healthy level,” because I never used those words. Next time say ‘healthy level,’ as it represents an indirect quotations/paraphrase.

            Also, your comment doesn’t make much sense. I said race relations were better in the recent past, but that the media and our leaders have made issues worse by automatically coming to the defense of the civilian in cases of perceived police brutality — before ANY facts were out…and what happened in the two major cases (brown/martin), it turned out the initial stories were all wrong and the cops/neighborhood watch weren’t unjustifiably targeting these two young men based on their race, but rather their actions.

            Again, though, your last question is unclear — please rephrase.

          • Jacki Cook

            So glad I am not alone out here…God bless you!

          • guest

            You mean like when everyone, including Obama, uses George Bush as a scapegoat? It fits here, because Obama is always commenting on these stories and claiming the cops are racists and the cops, not the people, are the problem.

          • wessexmom

            Here’s the lead paragraph from a St Louis Dispatch story regarding the Justice Department’s investigation into Michael Brown’s death:

            “In a speech in Washington, Attorney General Eric Holder concluded,
            “Michael Brown’s death, though a tragedy, did not involve prosecutable
            conduct on the part of Officer Wilson.” Holder said that the decision
            “represents the sound, considered and independent judgment of the expert career prosecutors,” and that he concurred.”

            Stop looking at people with such simplistic ignorance! Not only is that racist, it’s stupid. And I don’t’ believe you when you say that no one contacted the Asian cop who was killed–Prove it!

          • Chauncey Nixon

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/03/slain-nypd-officers_n...
            Heres my link showing that he paid tribute to these officers and had presence at the funerals.

          • Eventide Parfait

            How is Obama responsible for that Officer’s actions?

          • Chauncey Nixon

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/03/slain-nypd-officers_n_6999540.html
            Your facts are false. He not only had a presence in the funerals’ of the slain officers, but, he also raised funds for them, and got tax write offs as incentives for people to contribute. Too bad you went blabbing your mouth without any knowledge. I believe the name for that is “ignorant”!

          • 6660splendidday

            BLAME Barack Obama! BLAME BARACK OBAMA… BLAME…..that ol’ refrain from the Dallas Area. Still dancin’ in the dark… Jacki Cook… still in the dark….. never to see the light… always in the dark! Ask them to pledge allegiance… …

          • guest

            You mean like Obama blames Bush for everything, after 8 years? You mean like he and his wife blame racism and talk about things that have happened 40 years ago?

          • Jacki Cook

            If these libs DON’T want blacks in subservient roles then why does every policy they promote do nothing but enslave black Americans?

        • C Rose

          Ms. Cook, I believe given the exact same circumstances if this officer where black and the 14 year old were white you would have different comments.

          • guest

            I believe if this officer were black and the kid was black you would be on the side of the officer, or if the kid was white and the officer was black.

        • dfernandes

          No, your comment was as racist as it gets, and what’s sad is, you don’t even realize it.

        • glennisw

          You seem to be obsessed with perceived grievances against black people. It must suck to be you, living your life consumed with hatred, keeping score all the time.

          • guest

            Kind of like so many blacks have perceived grievances against whites and the cops? Must be so hard having their lives consumed with ruining the lives of innocent whites?

      • Mei Phuk Ing Diqq

        @Jacki Cook your racism is so screamingly blatant that not only is it laughable but I have to question whether you’re even serious or just trolling. If you’re just trolling then good job at looking like you’re actually being serious. If you’re actually being serious, then you might wanna consider killing yourself. We don’t need people as stupid and backwards in our gene pool.

        • guest

          Can you point out where she was racist, or are you just one of those people who scream that word when someone disagrees with you and you don’t like it? How old are you? I’ve never heard anyone over 13 say ” go kill yourself.” You must be another paid troll who works for one of the black hate groups?

      • guest

        What exactly was racist about his? You mean the black kids yelling out racial slurs?

    • RJ

      Race-baiting is a term that serves to silence legitimate, important conversations about race and racism. Talking about issues of race and acknowledging that a past and present of systemic racism in this country plays a role in our justice system is the right thing to do. It is also necessary to making changes and working toward a better society. Burying one’s head in the sand and pretending that racism has somehow disappeared and that white people don’t benefit from residual racism in our society is ridiculous. Just because laws have been enacted to extend basic human civil rights to people of all races doesn’t mean that such rights are respected by police or any other system of power (i.e. academia, economic institutions, etc). Black Americans and minorities are, in overwhelmingly greater numbers than whites, victims of police violence. That’s not race-baiting… it’s a fact. People who point out racism in incidents that receive national attention are doing so to help build awareness of these problems so that we can have a better society. That’s a project we should all be invested in… especially people (like yourself) who profess to be of the Christian faith. Instead of spouting off blame and telling Black Americans that it is somehow only “their” job to make positive changes in our society, how about you show a little outrage over the fact that a police officer (who the state of Texas trusts to protect and serve the public) pulled a weapon on some nearly-naked unarmed teens? How about you take a moment to think about whether or not he would have done what he did to a young, blonde white teenage girl? We both know that the answer is that he wouldn’t and white people are just as capable of being snappy and disrespectful to police as any other person of any other race. This is clearly an instance of racism on the part of the police officer (whether he consciously knows that or not) and admitting that that’s the case does not somehow mean that he’s an awful terrible person who’s other characteristics and deeds don’t count for something or that all police officers are racist too. It just means that we are intelligent people and we can admit when there’s something wrong with the world and in doing so make a start to try and fix it. Don’t silence people who are trying to do important work toward making the world a better place. Stand beside them. If you think that you’re in the right here, take a night off from commenting online to read the Bible and see if your message of “you people need to fix your own problems” (as if white people have not in any way contributed to the situation of minorities) would have been embraced by Jesus. Do your homework.

      • Jacki Cook

        I read my bible every day, whether it matters to you or not…. Blacks in America today are being held hostage by programs designed to keep them from becoming the productive and happy people they were meant to be by Our Creator. Do any of these victims look as if they are happy? They are robbing stores and running from police. They mostly come from homes where there is no family structure and certainly no instruction in faith. It is, of course, not limited to just blacks, but this has become epidemic in the black neighborhoods. Black on black crime has grown exponentially but all we hear about are those blacks who have become victims of white assailants or officers. This is a deliberate attempt to stoke anger and revenge among those who see only these news stories reported by a media that is all too happy to keep getting ratings at the price of tragedy.

        • Jill-John Erb

          Wow…. “They this” and “they that”…

          Every heard of White Privilege? SMH

        • RJ

          You really didn’t read anything I said, did you? The original article is about an incident in which race and racism played a big role in how the police handled a situation, and the fact that they abused their power with several Black teenagers. It has nothing to do with any of the conservative talking points you listed off (I’m assuming you watch a lot of Fox News and listen to a lot of conservative radio). Plenty of issues surrounding race, systemic poverty, crime, the collapse of the middle class, institutional barriers to equality for women and minorities, and rampant inequality in educational opportunities (to name a few) deserve our attention and activism. And yes, we should talk about how to make those things better. Admitting that we have a problem with racism in our justice system (especially in policing) doesn’t mean that these other issues aren’t relevant. But, you can’t even admit as a starting point that the police officer was wrong in his treatment of the teenagers in the video and that his actions stem from racist tendencies on his part and that of our society in general. Instead, you want to divert attention from the issue at hand and place blame everywhere else. Admitting that racism exists doesn’t negate the fact that there are other issues that we, as a society, have to work on. The way a white police officer abuses a Black teenager is not the fault of Black Americans. It’s like when an abusive spouse beats his wife — we shouldn’t put the blame on her (no matter what she might have said to him or done to make him angry) — he beat her and that’s his fault and his violence to own up to. The police officer here is wrong and it is clear that his violence and injustice is directed at a certain set of people. Admitting that is important so that we can work toward finding the source of this problem and trying to change it. Denying racism is, like I said before, akin to sticking your head in the sand or plugging your ears and screaming “LALALALA” because what you are hearing makes you uncomfortable or upset. And, if you’re reading your Bible everyday, answer me this — would Jesus spend his time placing blame and being defensive or would he reach out in love and try to become a part of what heals the situation?

          • dave in texas

            never mind; wrong place.

        • Greg Angus

          You saw all that in the video? Wow, I think I am going to have to watch if for the 6th or 7th time. I missed that. I did see the fat white dude who was allowed to stand close to the cop the entire time. Gee, I just wonder why? Could it have been that he was white? The cop ran 10-20 yard or more to put people on the ground who were no threat at all, but this guy was allowed to stand there the entire time.

        • Whit

          Why am I not surprised that you’re a right wing Christian and spouting ignorant idealogies about race. Here’s number 1, Jackie. Minorities can’t be racist. Racism means that one class benefits from the suppression of another. As a minority, blacks and other minorities cannot benefit from such a system. They can be discriminatory but not racist. Do your research. Another thing you might want to research: I imagine you, like my own parents, worship at the altar of Ronald Reagan, trickle down economics, and his idea of patriotism. And I want you to Google crack cocaine, Reagan, and the Nicaraguan war. Recently declassified documents tell a very interesting story about how Reagan and the US gov. Introduced crack into poor black communities to fund their war and to keep that community down. Tell me AGAIN how your pseudo Christian examination of race relations in this broken country of ours makes any sense. Also look at the Tuskegee experiment where the government infected black men with syphilis and did not tell them just so they could see what would happen. Syphilis that they spread to their wives and children, that they denied giving. We have an ugly, racist history. Learn it and until then do not hate people who point it out. The only way we can move forward is to talk about our past, to talk about our present and the race issues that permeate our culture. Like it or not, it exists. Agree with it or not, it exists. Do your research, don’t put your head in the sand.

          • Takin a dump

            “Minorities can’t be racist.”

            Then according to your “logic”, it is impossible for whites in South Africa and Zimbabwe to be racist.

          • guest

            That’s a good one!

        • gapaul

          What are you talking about? These are 14 year old kids at a pool party. If you read the story you’d have read that many of them lived in this very nice housing development. So what’s with the broken home./ robbing stores /no church /crime /”held hostage by programs” narrative? Geesh.

        • WSJ

          You lost me at bible…by the words of your “Almighty” yo in big trouble lady. And really…your source is Fox news?…now were all in trouble..stop reading and listening lady….your not getting it.. Go out into the world and take the pulse of reality around you..without the help of your bible and TV news. What do you have then..your tightassed republican, guntoating, Obama hating………Oh I give up.. Your just to stupid.. But. I did want to ask. Do you have ANY non white friends. What would they say about your opinions you’ve expressed here in a public forum? Oh ..so I guess that they don’t matter. Cuz it’s just your opinion. .. This is NOT going to go away. This is all that “STUFF” that is the thorn in the side of ALL of us. WE ALL need to live here (on this planet) . There is always going to be a top and a bottom, haves and have nots, but in the meantime…do you have to actively go out of your way to be dispassionate and hateful??? You are only capable of self ritiousness (sp). Everyone of us is going for the gusto that is life..but there seems to be a lot of confussion as to who gets what out of life. The latitudes that you must lay down for “OTHERS” IS ONLY AGREEABLE TO YOU AND YOUR GROUP. Your inflexible, selfserving agenda is just that…OH! and your buddies. Got it? Probably not. Oh… and as for your bible….he dies. No disrespect intended. Lepper colonies anyone ?

          • Takin a dump

            “Your just to stupid”

            LOL

        • wessexmom

          No matter how often you read your bible, it’s message of love and empathy is obviously not sinking in. I’m certain “Our Creator” did not approve of your white ancestors enslaving his black children and tearing their families apart and generally treating them like animals and property!
          As far as your cirme stats, here’s one for you: Most white people are murdered by other white people! And speaking of facts, here’s
          another –Obama is half white and he was raised by his white mother and grandparents!

        • glennisw

          You read your bible everyday? You’re clearly not getting anything from it. What a hateful person.

        • yramocan

          Re: @Jacki Cook

          “Do any of these victims look as if they are happy? They are robbing stores and running from police.”

          While you are correct that there are institutionalized systems in place within the United States that hold black people hostage to the ongoing injustices and micro-aggressions that people such as yourself obviously never have—and, perhaps, never will—face, you are incorrect to insinuate that the victims of this crime that we have witnessed in McKinney are unhappy criminals, robbing from stores and running from the law.

          You are accusing these teens of robbing from stores. This accusation in itself is based in racist prejudice—”black teens are always up to no good”. What evidence is there that states any of these teens in this video have committed any sort of theft?

          You made this untenable assumption about these black teenagers, devoid of any evidence. That is racist and ignorant.
          _______________________________________________________________

          “They mostly come from homes where there is no family structure and certainly no instruction in faith.”

          Is that so? And do you have the evidence for this either? I assume you don’t.

          Either way, you’re making the assumption that instruction in faith is an essential deterrent of crime and moral ineptitude for all people, which is simply not true. Take the Duggars, for example—a family surrounded by faith and Christian ideals, however, currently immersed in an utterly disgusting molestation scandal.

          Jacki, I implore you to take a moment to do proper research on these issues before making—and spreading—your opinions.
          _______________________________________________________________

          Oh, yeah, and remember what the Bible says…
          Proverbs 18:2 – Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.

          • Jacki Cook

            I did not make that assumption, in fact, I clarified that in another post, Sorry if you missed that. My general remarks come from a growing and obvious frustration with the race-baiters like Obama and Holder and Sharpton and Jackson who stoke the “poor me”agenda and have done more to enslave black Americans in this country than any policy of the forties fifties or sixties ever could do. You say that I am presumptuous in my remarks. Maybe. But honestly, if these kids had a culture of faith and respect for authority, do you think this would have happened?? What kids from a home that has supervision allows these kids to climb fences and insert themselves into a party to which they were not invited? The more that comes out from the REAL witnesses of the event, it appears that most of these kids were NOT invited to this party, so why did they show up, and then act like idiots?

          • Jacki Cook

            I did not accuse the McKinney kids of any such thing, I was responding to the overall crisis that has emerged from the Michael Brown ordeal. If you defend this thug, please don’t waste my time or yours.

          • guest

            You’re right! Michael Jackson came from a house with both parents and faith and look what he did, right? I mean, people like you constantly want to criticize the Duggars, but yet don’t criticize grown men actually having sex with kids. Should I throw in R KELLY? Why is that? Also, can you prove that they don’t come from broken homes? I actually don’t think it comes from people not having fathers, but from people not being taught right from wrong and taking responsibility for one’s actions. I’m not religious and have never broken the law,don’t drink and have never done drugs. How do you know that just because people are white that they have never gone through shit and have never been discriminated against? Affirmative Action is racist and sexist, this coming from a woman, but I’m sure you think it’s okay. You blame all this racism for the problems, but why have other groups who were treated even more horribly than blacks, succeeded in such large numbers?

          • yramocan

            Well first, you’re making a heinous assumption that I don’t criticize or disdain the wrongdoings of Michael Jackson or R. Kelly—which is simply wrong.

            Also, the burden of proof is not on me to prove whether or not Michael Jackson or R. Kelly come from broken homes (since you presented these particular two random black celebrities who’ve been involved with sex scandals).

            But, I’ll humor you…

            The reason I criticized the Duggars in my post was to make the point to Jacki Cook that Christianity should not be treated as a deterrent of wrongdoing. In fact, both Michael Jackson and R. Kelly grew up in Christian homes.

            I’ve never stated or implied that white people have never struggled. In fact, I believe all people struggle in their own ways, however, the black struggle is pertinent in society and in conversations like these because the McKinney incident is yet another representation of habitual police brutality on black youth in America.

            That is why this has become a race issue.

            So none of this was an automatic assumption or a preemptive “race card” summoning, it is a further exacerbation of an already existent issue within a flawed law-enforcement system in the United States.

      • Tiffany Jackson

        RJ- You hit the nail on the head. Let’s just hope that cooler and more intelligible heads prevail and maybe, just maybe, this unfortunate occurrence can serve as an opportunity for people of differing views and perspectives to have meaningful, helpful dialogue aimed at bringing this country closer together.

    • Michael Leza

      Conservatives are so easy to train. You can make them say anything. It’s like having a parrot that donates to your political campaign.

    • txvoodoo

      You are living in a world which doesn’t exist.

      Thankfully, Obamacare does. I encourage you to go find some, and get medication for that pathology.

    • LauraAkers

      How can an abortion rate be aimed at black women?

      Also more black men than white mwn are actively involved in the raising of their children outside of marriage–black men don’t need the law to force them to stick around.

      And the Dixiecrats left the Democratic party and joined the Republican precisely because the Democratic one expected them to treat blacks the same as whites.

      Obviously, YOU are the one who needs to do her homework. Or at least stop parrotting right wing talking points you don’t understand

      • emaleroland

        I just set your straw men on fire. Step back so you don’t get burned. You are beyond stupid. Steroids are involved.

        • LauraAkers

          Except I have the facts on my side and I have no problem posting them. Where are yours?

          • emaleroland

            No you don’t and I’ve already posted the facts. Seek help, honey.

          • LauraAkers

            No, you didn’t. Facts, by definition, require that others be able to validate your claims. Thus, you must present actual evidence. Which I did.

          • guest

            Honey, other people are validating the claims of this women. Her good friend, which happens to be black, is on her side. Most of the people who live in this neighborhood are siding with the officers. You are going by what kids says. Most kids lie, especially for their friends. You know, it’s called ” peer pressure.” Also, evidence needs to back up facts, which it does in this case. Facts do not require validation from others, but from evidence. What evidence do you have? Were you there? Did you interview everyone? DO you work for the FBI?

          • LauraAkers

            Wait…her friend is backing her up and that’s proof of what exactly? Because friends never lie to make friends look better, right?

            And you do not understand what the phrase “require that others be able to validate your claims.” Hint: it does not mean “validation from others.” It means that the evidence should be observable empirically by others–that they should be able to verify that what you are reporting is in fact accurate.

            “Morose” is not the only word giving you trouble.

          • guest

            You think the white kids are telling the truth, so how is that any different. Kids lie more than adults do and that’s a lot! The police and the justice system are the only ones that need to validate the claims being made, sweetie. I’m okay with you putting my intelligence down. At least, I’m not obese and unattractive.

          • LauraAkers

            Where is your proof that kids lie more than adults? You make a LOT of claims and haven’t provided proof for even one.

            And I did not put your intelligence down. Intelligence is a measure of a person’s ABILITY to learn. You may or may not be able to learn. What is clear is that you have no DESIRE to learn. Big difference.

            And keep attacking my looks, please. It makes you SO much more factually correct. And attractive. (guffaw)

          • guest

            You make claims and have offered no proof, why do I? You act like kids are perfect little angels who never lie so they won’t get into trouble, or because of peer pressure. Intelligence is being smart. It is not the ability to learn. How the hell do you know what my desire is? Obviously, the truth about your looks is bothering you. That’s why you keep mentioning it. Why don’t you have a desire to lose weight, or become attractive?

          • LauraAkers

            I have repeatesly provided links to reputable sources to support my claims. Everyone can see that I have done this. Are you intent on appearing ridiculous?

          • guest

            No, I actually am ridiculous. All your claims are correct. You are right about everything. You are the greatest. You are the smartest. Now, will you fat ass leave me alone?

          • emaleroland

            First, let me respond to your comment in kind. #waaaa
            Now, I realize you live in the Socialist’s Utopia but in the real world [where non-Liberals live aka people who think] we aren’t double jointed enough to pat ourselves on our back especially as a cover up for being wrong.

            re: your def of facts, you’re delusional. Facts are facts because they’re truth. Truth does not require your acceptance or understanding. Apparently common sense, rational thought, and cognitive reasoning do not either.

            The only thing you have presented is emotion, argued from a non-position. Facts don’t lie, you do. Now we all know. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

          • LauraAkers

            Studies are “emotions”?

            Oh, and I grew up and lived in Nevada most of my life–not exactly a bastion of liberalism. You continue to be wrong about…well, pretty much everything. And facts are not the same as “truth.” Truth is a philosophical construct. Facts are not.

            You still have yet to present anything other than your opinion.

      • Jacki Cook

        You and Madi Dear both need to read Margaret Sanger.

        • Takin a dump

          Margaret Sanger was right, and that’s why I’m pro-abortion. Imagine the tens of thousands of future black criminals that get aborted every single year. Abortion keeps the USA from becoming like some African shit hole.

        • LauraAkers

          First of all, I have. A lot. Unlike you, I know what I’m talking about.

          Second, a rate of any kind cannot be “aimed” at anyone. Your comment literally makes no sense.

          Third please provide a quote in context to support whatever the hell it is you are trying to say about black people and Margaret Sanger. I assume its the old BS about how she was trying to commit genocide against them. Trust me, it’s been disproven again and again. So much so that Martin Luther King Jr himself wrote about how honored he was to receive an award with her name on it because of the great work she did to HELP the African American community.

          But if you’d like to continue to make yourself look like an idiot, please do. And I’ll post the evidence showing that your ridiculous talking point, about which you have done none of your own unbiased reading, is garbage.

      • Takin a dump

        “Also more black men than white mwn are actively involved in the raising of their children outside of marriage–black men don’t need the law to force them to stick around.”

        LOL WUT

    • Madi Dear

      Yeah Obama is to blame for kids standing up for themselves when berated with racial slurs from white trash suburbanites in an ok neighborhood. Those aren’t million dollar homes, it’s not hard to afford living there. All Obama’s fault. Woman, you are so stupid it hurts

    • Madi Dear

      Do you understand that in the not so distant past these kids could have been swinging from trees with no consequences to the men who hung them? Do you realize that whites are a close second to blacks concerning the national average of abortions but they have more access to birth control? Do you also realize nobody in this discussion was talking about republicans or their policies and your invalid arguments are coming out of left field? And Obama commented on the murder of an unarmed black man which was already national news. Your attitude is so obviously racist in every way and the sad thing is you’ll never see it.

      • Jacki Cook

        Read Margaret Sanger and tell me blacks are not targeted for abortions. Planned Parenthood was her baby. And your insults do not make you appear any brighter.

        • LauraAkers

          Please quote the Sanger you are talking about.

    • wolfetone

      Nice word salad of rightwing talking points you made here. Leaving aside the obvious – which many here have already addressed – I’d like to know about President Obama’s “unnecessary nose.” Is he equipped with some other organ that serves the same function? Are all of our noses unnecessary, or only his. Inquiring minds want to know.

      • Jacki Cook

        Use the brain God gave you.

        • LauraAkers

          He did. To point out that you don’t know how to use the English language.

    • tickticktick

      Translation: Black people being in charge is racist.

      • Takin a dump

        and fantastically incompetent too

        • tickticktick

          Learn grammar.

          • Takin a dump

            kill yourself

          • tickticktick

            You first. I promise I’ll go next.

    • Greg Angus

      Jacki, Jacki, Jacki. So your implication is that, had not Obama “stuck his unnecessary nose” into a local police issue in Boston, then the events of the weekend would not have occurred? He is also responsible, I assume, for the hateful and bigoted tweets that welcomed his arrival on twitter? And he is then also responsible for people wearing t-shirts saying “It’s the White House for a reason”? But I saw those shirts before 2009. So miss Jacki, your attempt to shift the blame to the victim has failed. You show yourself to be as racist as the next white neo-con whacko. You bring shame to white people who are not like you, but only look like you.

    • C Rose

      #BlameObama – here we go again with this worn out narrative used to get some folks to vote and behave against their own interest in the name of race, etc.

      I can’t wait to see who’s blamed in 2016 and beyond when an authority figure decides to mistreat or treat with a double standard.

    • Daniel

      The “breakdown of family” and “loss of the two parent home” that you reference is a direct result of the misguided (to say the least) war on drugs, disproportionate and discriminatory sentencing laws and practices, as well as the intentional practice, only a few generations ago, of breaking up slaves’ families to weaken the family unit to make sales of slaves easier. Perhaps it is you who need to “wake the hell up” and “do your homework…”

    • Educated Black American Woman,

      You really need to do your research… Statistics show that there are more whites receiving government assistance (i.e. foodstamps, welfare,etc.) present day as well as in the past years. It simply amazes me that it is assumed that blacks are receiving more. Additionally there are just as many white families who have a single parent homes as blacks. Statistics have shown that there is an increase in divorce rates in both of these races. It also amazes me that you are so quick to state that the black race is committing so many crimes, however you forget about the crimes that many white kids have committed. Where should I began the shooting that occurred at the movie theater that claimed many lives, the Columbine High school massacre, the Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting. Shall I continue. These were all done by white teenage boys. The matter at hand is RESPECT, which has no color and should be given regardless of race, creed or gender. So please educate yourself and verify your facts before posting a non factual post.

      • Takin a dump

        “You really need to do your research… Statistics show that there are more whites receiving government assistance (i.e. foodstamps, welfare,etc.)”

        WELL DUH. The USA is over 70% white and less than `13% black. You aren’t very smart.

        • guest

          I don’t know where they get these stats. I think they are wrong, because I’m been to the food stamp / welfare office in my city and the day I went there were about 200 people. 2 were Hispanics, then my mother and I, who are white, the rest were black and these women were actually telling me how they worked the system, because they thought I was in the same boat. Maybe I went on ” Black Friday” and not ” White Wednesday?”

    • amandakimble

      I dont follow how your comment ultimately applies to this story specifically. This situation clearly started from a white woman hurling RACIAL, RACIST comments at teens that were unjustified and not ok. That makes this story, more so than others mentioned, actually a racially motivated situation. Until you have ever experienced it, you can never know what it truly means or the reality of it. YES what you wrote above is possibly true, but that doesnt negate the fact that it still sucks that on a very personal level to a lot of people of color, especially blacks, especially teens hanging out in their own neighborhood…that they have to deal with such terrible things.

    • wessexmom

      Excuse me, lady but you can’t blame slavery or racism on Obama. He wasn’t born when it started. Perhaps you should finally get that GED you’ve always planned on and study a bit of ACTUAL history in the process!
      You must be from Boston, that bastion of liberalism, which also happens to be one of the most racist cities in America, historically speaking. (For those who don’t believe me, just google school busing in Boston.)

    • Elsie

      You female know nothing of what is really going on in this world .You are the typical average want to fit in with the Smith’s and Jones’s .You believe what you have been sold to believe.But One thing for sure you one day will be giving all truths of the enclosed life you lived .Its just so shameful that the sad thing about it YOU STILL WONT UNDERSTAND OR BELIEVE WHEN EVEN THE MAKER THE CREATIOR TELLS AND SHOWS YOU.POOR LITTLE SILLY FEMALE.I PRAY YOU COME OUT OF THE SHELL YOU LIVE IN.LOL BUT THEN AGAIN THERE ARE MANY OF US CALLED BUT ONLY A FEW SHALL PASS TGROUGHT THINE GATE.SO ON THAT NOTE WE ALL CANT MAKE IT TO HEAVEN .SO sorry .

    • Joe T Plumber

      If one hundred loudmouthed white kids showed up in a covenant controlled community uninvited, do you think the outcome would’ve been any different?

    • grandma jones

      @jacki_cook:disqus Any time someone says “Do your Homework” it means to read the conservative biased point of view based on opinions, not facts. This article reported the facts, but you refuse to believe them. This is an article about racism and you have to mention welfare? So are you saying black people are on welfare? You are as racist as the Mckinney white woman who started this whole thing with racial slurs — guess what? She is now suspended from her job.

      • guest

        You talk about facts, but where are your facts that the white woman started this with racial slurs? They have no proof that she started this. They are given in to all the paid trolls from the hate groups who are bombarding them on social media and the phones. It’s pretty sad. Anyone with an IQ above 100 can see this girl had the woman by the hair and the other woman was hitting the hands of the girl trying to get her to release the woman she was assaulting. Black people are on welfare. I’ve been to the welfare office in my city. There were about 200 people there that day. 2 whites;2 Hispanics; the rest….blacks. Don;t listen to real world stats. Keep listening to the false stats that tell you want you want to hear.

    • CB

      Have you ever stopped to consider that one of the principle reasons of the breakup of the home and the number of single parent households in the minority community is that they’re locked up at a rate far higher than whites for the same crime?

      • guest

        No, because it’s not true. How about not committing crimes at all?Most of these girls get pregnant before their boo goes to jail. How about sending them to live with you, instead of going to jail?

        • CB

          What’s not true? That minorities have a higher incarceration rate than whites for the same crimes? It’s absolutely true. Sorry to shatter your world view that institutional racism doesn’t exist and we all live in Maybury.

          “Nowhere are racial disparities in criminal justice more evident than in drug law enforcement. In 2003, black men were nearly 12 times more likely to be sent to prison for a drug offense than white men. Yet, national household surveys show that whites and African Americans use and sell drugs at roughly the same rates. African Americans, who are 12 percent of the population and about 14 percent of drug users, make up 34 percent of those arrested for drug offenses and 45 percent of those serving time for such offenses in state prisons.”
          http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-incarceration/2011/06/13/AGfIWvYH_story.html

          • guest

            Honey, you can’t compare situations unless they have the same variables. Did all these men have the same past offenses? Did they commit them in the same town? Did they have the same lawyer? Did they have the same judge? How do you not get this? If you think blacks are so unfairly treated and should not go to jail, then invite them to live at your house. How about they don’t do crimes at all, or drugs? People like you, throw out the same tired studies. It’s really getting old. Get out in the real world and see what is happening.

          • CB

            Huh? You don’t understand, apparently. What the studies show, is that given the same proportion of drug crimes between races, minorities are far more likely to be actually imprisoned for drug offenses. How can you possibly not see a problem with that? The studies are far reaching enough so that individual variables are minor. These are not old, tired studies if you’re a minority. The problem is that if you’re white, this isn’t an issue for you – it’s an annoyance and it means that changes need to be made, which is difficult – and it’s much easier to be lazy (actually and intellectually) than to recognize clear problems and try to solve them. Yes, far easier to simply blame the victims than find a solution.

          • guest

            Honey, it’s not an issue for me, because I don’t do drugs and never have. I really could care less if drug offenders go to jail. That’s where they belong. How can you not see a problem with people doing drugs at all? You must be a druggie? You must be lazy since you aren’t doing anything to stop people from using drugs? I’m sick of people like you acting like blacks have it so hard here and have been treated the most horrible of any group. They aren’t and haven’t. How are drug abusers victims? How are people in jail victims? The people they hurt are the victims. Lord, you need help.

          • CB

            Who has the guy smoking a joint hurt? It’s a victim-less crime.
            And you’re missing the point – it’s not about the drugs or their users, it’s about the FACT that institutional racism exists, it’s real, and we should recognize that.
            The problem is that the private prison industry needs prisoners to keep the checks flowing, and these prisoners are disproportionately minorities – often because they’re poor and can’t afford to get out of it, and also because sentencing tends to be harsher for minorities than for whites for the same crimes. In turn, this leads to a loss of an earner for the household and a breakdown of the family. You pointed to this as a problem. Well, if you’re really interested in having it fixed, you have to have the intelligence to understand where the problem lies and how it can be corrected.

          • guest

            I don’t care if it’s fixed. I want druggies in jail. Actually, a lady a few years back smoked a joint and went the wrong way on a NY freeway and killed kids. Look it up. If you think racism exists in the court system, you need to go to the court dates of all the blacks who you think should not go to jail and have them move in with you, since you seem to care so much. Maybe if they are going to do drugs and commit crimes, they should work harder,so they can get better jobs and get out of it. Most of these guys don’t have jobs, so I really don’t know how they earn for their household. Most have different babies from different mothers. You need to get your head out of your ass. It’s funny how OJ and Michael Jackson were black, but both got off. So, did a guy black guy recently who claimed he killed his kids why sleep walking. His wife was white and most of the jurors were black. Wonder why no one is talking about that being racism? I’m thinking you’re the one with absolutely zero intelligence and zero common sense. Go work on that, sweetie!

  • FMAWG

    The biggest difference between Waco and McKinney is there are nine dead white boys and hardly any protest even though almost two hundred innocent people are still in jail three weeks later. Where is the outrage? Bikers were shot down for fighting and these kids were only roughed up. That is racism, reverse racism.

    • Michael Leza

      Not racism. Bigotry is closer. Still authoritarian bullshit. But hey as long as racists are stirring the pot of race war, the rich will keep using their jackboots to win the class war.

  • What I find most interesting is the people reacting to this incident. it is a litmus test. The man pulled a gun on unarmed teens. If you’re spending your time defending those actions or even worse trying to convince others it’s acceptable behavior…then you are on the wrong side of history. Here is poem http://claudiaalick.blogspot.com/2015/06/pool-party-incident.html

    • smurf

      What’s with the continued “unarmed” narrative? Does possessing a gun make you guilty or the lack of one make you innocent?

      Let’s be honest, not everyone can pass a criminal background check and buy a gun at Walmart.

    • Takin a dump

      The cop pulled a gun because one of the man-sized teens was about to attack him.

      • tickticktick

        As soon as he pulled his gun, two other officers rushed in from off-camera to prevent his dumb ass from shooting those kids. Clearly, he had back-up and, therefore, protection from “man-sized teens.”

        • LauraAkers

          And one of those cops was already on scene and talking calmly to some of the boys that the out-of-control cop later threw on the ground for no reason. The kids were not out of control and not dangerous nor did they appear that way to the the other officers.

          • guest

            How do you know how they appeared to the other officers? Were you there? How do you know that anything you said is true? Other witnesses, including blacks, say differently. So, if I’m every around you and a black kids starts hitting you and does not let go, you don’t want me to help you, or call the cops, right?

          • LauraAkers

            Because the other officers are THANKING the kids for their assistance. That’s why it’s clear they are not being seen as a threat by those other officers. Perhaps you should try watching the whole video and not just the highlights you are getting from your so-called “news sources.”

            So here’s the real question: if some white people and black people are saying the black people are at fault, and other white people and black people are saying that the white people are at fault, and you acknowledge that neither you nor I were there to see the WHOLE thing, why do you insist on believing that the people who said the black people were at fault are the ones telling the truth?

            On another note, most attacks on white people are committed by other white people, and no black person has laid an abusive had on me ever despite the fact that I went to the blackest schools in my town. So I have far more reason, as you do, to be afraid of white people. So should I call the police every time I feel like there are too many white people hanging out together?

            Or is there some special reason I should be more afraid of black people?

          • guest

            What officers are thanking the kids? The ones who were around the one that got fired? I don’t hear anything of that sort. If the other officers are thanking the kids in the other area, what does that have to do with the area he was in? Those other kids were not acting like these kids. I’ve watched the whole video, sweetie and it’s quite evident you lie. Why do you insist the white people are at fault? Why do you just assume that black people always tell the truth? I saw the people from the community, being interviewed and the all the kids who are blaming the adults. All the adults were looking people straight in the eye and not fumbling, all the kids were looking off to the side and could not get their stories straight, including the white ones. That’s how you can tell. Also, CNN had the girl and her father on and they said it was racist, then they had her cousin, who is black on and he said it was not racist. How do you know where I have gone to school, or what has happened in my life? Yes, you should call the police when you see young white kids, or black kids hanging out, because chances are when kids are hanging out, they are up to no good. I’m not going to debate you on this, or the white on white false stats you keep throwing out. If you think you will only get killed by a white person, because you say you are white, then that’s what you need to believe. Just remember, if a black person ever hurts you in any way, don’t call the cops, because you are just imagining things. You keep turning my words around and taking them out of context and this tactic is just getting old. You are boring me.

    • Takin a dump

      your poem sucks

    • Joe T Plumber

      As caustic as your comments are, it’s safe to assume you used red litmus paper.

    • trueroxfan

      Pretty sure he pulled it when a guy came up behind him with his hand in his pocket, then holstered it when the guy ran off — I love couch-cops who think you never have to use your weapon in defense or even as a deterrent in situations.

      People are crazy, don’t expect cops to just let it go and HOPE they make it home. There are bad cops, yes, but to assume all are bad because of a few is flawed logic. We should focus on rooting out bad cops, not distrusting all cops and blanketing stereotypes.

      • So you are saying it was GOOD policing when he pulled a gun on unarmed teenagers in bathing suits in broad daylight?

        • trueroxfan

          When two people run up with fists clenched and reach into their pockets, yes, it is good policing — he pulled it out and put it back when the situation passed (the kids ran off)….it’s very easy for you to say hold your weapon, because you know the outcome (no one had a gun/no one attacked the cop), unfortunately for police officers, they can’t afford the future-telling technology that you possess.

  • mutedexposure

    So two teens advancing on a cop that is albeit wrongly taking down a teenaged girl is not reason for him to draw his weapon? He didn’t know what they were stepping towards him for. These kids should have known better than to move towards a police officer. There are multiple residents talking about the loud music, that there were more than allowed in visitors, the party was not HOA approved, etc. Nobody is hearing their story. They just want to call this a race issue. The police were responding to a call. They told people to leave. Most did. Some stuck back and acted like they had the right to be somewhere that they didn’t. Both parties are wrong. The resident who broke HOA rules by openly inviting unlimited numbers of people as well as the minors who showed up without a guardian which is part of the pool rules. The cop who got hot headed and acted like an ignorant goon is wrong too. In the end nobody will learn a lesson and race relations will be pushed further down the hole. A few bad apples spoil the bunch and now this neighborhood is being painted really ugly over these few bad apples.

    • NM2000

      Do we know they didn’t have a right to be there? Everything I’ve read is conflicting reports at best. And many say they did live there or have guests passes. And we don’t know how much the police did or didn’t know or try to find out about the situation before the video. Just because some white people called the police first doesn’t mean they were in the right. A lot of reports of the incident begin with white people yelling slurs and even physically assaulting one girl and you don’t see a lot about police trying to find that lady I these stories. There’s a lot still to come out, but I wodmt assume they were someplace they had no right to be just yet.

    • Whit

      A cop should never draw his gun if no one is armed. Even the other 2 cops know that. Notice how they flank him and try to stop him. These kids deserves to be shot because a girl is being assaulted in front of them and their gut reaction was to help. I dint blame them? Right. What the he’ll happened to night sticks? What the he’ll happened to tasers and I don’t know talking to people like they’re human. Cops are civil servants meant to protect and yet they only seem interested in protecting a certain type. I will never be okay with cops drawing their guns at a bunch of unarmed teenagers. I will never be ok with cops pointing their guns at unarmed anyone. It’s sick that people are defending his actions. There is no excuse. He escalated the situation and he gets to draw his gun and terrorize a bunch of kids. Awesome. USA! USA! Just a quick thing: look at the rates of police shootings in other comparable first world countries and get back to me. Particularly Sweden And other European countries. Go ahead. I’ll be waiting.

      • Takin a dump

        Sweden and other European countries? You mean those places that are a lot more white than the USA? Gee what a huge shocking surprise that there are less police shootings there.

    • Chauncey Nixon

      I think the IDIOT, THUG lady that initiated a fistfight with a minor will learn a lesson in race relations. Bank of America fired this THUG! A grown adult, fistfighting with teenage kids, and you see no wrong in that. Wow. I feel sorry for this society!

      • guest

        They didn’t fire her and if they do, it’s because of paid thug trolls like you who simply want her fired, because she is white and has a job, which makes someone like you very angry. Once again. Show us the proof that she started a fist fight with a minor. Maybe this girl needs a lesson in race relations, since she was the one making sure that everyone knew this lady was white.

        • Chauncey Nixon

          You are the authority of nothing and I have no burden of proof to you. You are the typical entitled white trash that wants someone else to do the work for you. How did you not know this yesterday, does the trailer park that you live in get WIFI????

          http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/10/1392082/-Woman-Involved-in-Starting-McKinney-Pool-

          • guest

            Where does it say they fired her? Also, the ” dailykos” is not a legitimate place for news. It’s basically a black hate website for people who hate whites. No, I probably should move to the ghetto where they get free WIFI!

          • Chauncey Nixon

            1. Alberto Moulitsas Zuniga is adventor of the Daily Kos.
            2. He is not black?, thus, can’t operate black hate website
            3. You already live in the ghetto. S.W.B!

          • guest

            So, now you are saying non-blacks can’t be evil?

      • 44blue

        The article on Gloria Allred’s involvement is pretty clear the BoA did not, in fact, fire the woman. So, at least Gloria Allred’s involvement has achieved something.

  • Culture warriors.. saddle up. The comment section needs you. Lead the charge Jacki!

    • Jacki Cook

      I’m saddened by the obvious defense of hoodlums by these people who the likes of Barack Obama appeal to. The young people at the pool party are not the ones to whom I refer. It’s the defense of the Michael Browns and Trayvon Martins to whom I refer…but to these people, all that matters is that black people are always right and that they are always the victims, not the perpetrators.

      • tickticktick

        I’m sorry, but WTF, lady? Trayvon Martin was followed through the darkness after buying Skittles and ended up dead. You think that’s justice?

        • Baron Münchhausen

          Yes it was. He attacked a man from behind with the intent of killing him. He got what he deserved.

          • glennisw

            The only “evidence” for this was the story told by the man who killed him.

          • Takin a dump

            And the eyewitnesses at the trial. You conveniently forgot about them.

          • guest

            Plus, the evidence. They always forget about that!

          • tickticktick

            In fear for his life for being chased by a stranger in the dark, he attempted to stand his ground, you mean.

        • Joe T Plumber

          The jury thought it was justice. We all have to accept their decision.

          • tickticktick

            Florida justice.

          • guest

            I think you forgot to mention he was beating the shit out of someone and did not live there. I’ve never understood why people like you think it wasn’t okay for Zimmerman to get out of his car and follow someone, even thought Zimmerman lived there, but yet it’s okay for Trayvon to walk where he does not live?

          • tickticktick

            His dad did live there. And, frankly, I’m pretty sure folks are allowed to walk through neighborhoods in which they don’t live.

          • guest

            If it’s private property..they can’t. I live in a town home with no fence. We have a no trespassing warrant, so if you don’t live here and aren’t visiting someone, you can’t walk here, or you will get arrested. I don’t understand why people like you think it’s okay to walk around with your head up your ass not noticing anything suspicious, or which does not belong. I’m street smart and notice everything and everyone. I’m not going to stop, just because someone thinks it’s racist. I would rather be called a racist, then have a bullet in my head. Sorry, if you don’t get that!

          • tickticktick

            “Street smart” = chickenshit who’s scared of black people. I get it.

          • guest

            Honey, where did I say I was scared of black people? I asked why blacks can be scared of cops, especially white ones, but yet whites are racist if they are scared of blacks. Why do uneducated, ignorant fools like yourself have to lie so much, manipulate and take things out of context? Oh, wait. I just answered my own question. Anyone with an IQ over 100, can see what I wrote and knows you are lying.

          • tickticktick

            Yeah, you’re right. It’s totally not racist to be automatically suspicious of a black kid with Skittles walking through your neighborhood.

          • guest

            I don’t get the thing about Skittles. It’s just people grasping at straws and trying to make this bad kid look like an angel. He was looking into houses and he did not recognize him. I’m suspicious of anyone, no matter what color, who I don’t recognize, or who is acting weird in my complex. He went after Zimmerman, because he though he was white. That’s the racist part. Funny how you don’t see that!

          • tickticktick

            No. He went after Zimmerman because he was following him in the dark. I would’ve gone after him too, but he wouldn’t have followed me, because I’m a white guy and Zimmerman had a record of considering black people suspicious because they were black.

          • guest

            Really? He had a record of that? Can you show me? I remember hearing that there were a number of crimes committed by blacks in that neighborhood. It’s convenient how you don’t mention that. So, let me get this straight. It’s not okay for Zimmerman to follow someone who is suspicious, but it was okay for T to follow someone and then beat the crap out of him? WHy the double standard?

          • tickticktick
          • guest

            OMG! You are so right. I mean what a racist. He called the cops on people who were actually breaking the law and then when they asked him to describe them, this racist had the nerve to say ” black.” Didn’t he know he was just supposed to say, ” two legs, two arms, a head, two eyes.” I mean, if he just said all of this, the cops would of been able to find them. BTW, almost all these were actually committing crimes, so I really don’t know what your point is. Do you not want people to call the cops on you and your friends, so you can commit crimes? You seem to think it’s racist, because most people who were committing crimes in this neighborhood were black. Also, he called the cops on white people and other races, so I really don’t know how this proves your point.

          • tickticktick

            Actually read them and you see most are accusations of black dudes being suspicious for some reason.

          • guest

            Um, maybe the reason why was because the were ACTUALLY participating in a crime. Look, it’s obvious you live with your head in the sand and want, for some reason, to blame everything on racism, so keep doing it. It’s a lot easier to do than to actually see what is really happening out there.

          • tickticktick

            Here’s a fun game: Name the crime in which these people were participating.

            – BM lsw: black leather jacket, black hat, printed PJ pants, he keeps going going to this” location

            – Two black males, one wearing a black tank top and black shorts, the second wearing a black t-shirt and jeans … “Subjs are in their teens”

            – Black male “late teens lsw dark gray hoodie jeans or sweatpants walking around area” … “subj now running towards back entrance of complex”

            – Black male last seen wearing a white tank top and black shorts … Zimmerman “believes subject is involved in recent” burglaries in the neighborhood

            – Juvenile black male “apprx 7–9” years old, four feet tall “skinny build short blk hair” last seen wearing a blue t-shirt and blue shorts

          • guest

            It’s funny how you leave what happened after the cops actually arrived. I guess that doesn’t fit your narrative. Love how you take all these out of context too. The fact is that it does not matter what you think, because JURY found him INNOCENT. You know, like your favorite singer Michael Jackson. So, if you say, that does not mean he is not guilty, then you have to feel the same about MJ, right?

          • tickticktick

            WTF? Michael Jackson?

            Clearly, you believe OJ Simpson was innocent too, though.

            The problem is that southern “justice” has a history of siding with lynchers.

          • guest

            What? Yes, the jury found him innocent, so he was. Remember how people were celebrating in the streets, because they found him innocent, or were they celebrating two white people being brutally murdered? That wasn’t racism though, I guess?

          • Takin a dump

            white guilt makes you stupid

          • tickticktick

            You were just born that way, I guess?

      • 6660splendidday

        I would suggest that you close down your computer and stop yapping while you think you are ahead. All any person sees when they read your rants is the hate and the discrimination you feel for people who are not the same color as you. Your rage is so visible in your writing, I feel sorry for you. They are all hoodlums and perpetrators and you are so Lily White… Wipe the spit of your chin and run to your church… that might help you, however, I think you are probably too far gone. You can’t see how transparent you are but we can. The more you rant the more we realize that it is really people just like you who have for so many years caused so much trouble and anguish for other races.

  • blacks never lie

    All good naive white liberals know and have faith in their bleeding hearts that blacks would never ever lie about anything, never never ever!!!!!

    • Chauncey Nixon

      Whites always cry that they are not racist after grouping all black people in one mentality. Thank God I rarely have to travel through trailer parks as educating the most ignorant members of society is exhausting.

      • guest

        Why are you so preoccupied with trailer parks? I’ve never lived in one, but some of those trailers are nice and at least those people don’t live in housing paid for by taxpayers.

      • Takin a dump

        You, as a black man, would be far safer in a white trailer park at night than you would be in a black ghetto.

  • Blu Lee

    The person who wrote this is an idiot. Did you not watch the video, the officer drew his gun when it looked he was going to be rushed by the two guys. He didnt point it at them and he holstered when the threat took off running. Sounds like the person writing this article is totally ignoring the facts and is speculating. Get your story straight then write, are you being paid for this?

    • wolfetone

      Those two guys – and the rest of the onlookers – should have rushed the cop and knocked him off of that girl. This was a one-man riot on the part of the officer, who entered the scene with a barrel-roll straight out of a B-movie action flick.

      • yellow__man

        You’re part of the problem. Go watch the full clip, not the short clip that starts with a barrel role.

      • Blu Lee

        Looks like he tripped while running and recovered with the roll. Possible? And bum rushing the cop would not have ended well.

  • emaleroland
  • Mary Van Zant

    typo: bwagoacks

  • Belasaurius

    i came for the comments, and I was not disappointed. I guess I should congratulate (rolls eyes) the police on not shooting anyone (wanking motion).

    • Joe T Plumber

      Obviously the wanking has made you blind, just as your mother warned.

  • Dindoo Nuffins

    Someday McKinney will be a peaceful black majority paradise, just like Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans, St Louis, Baltimore, Cleveland, South Africa, Zimbabwe…

    • Chauncey Nixon

      Capetown is one of the safest cities in the World, along with Zimbabwe. Chicago, Detroit, and the others are white cities with high black populations, but, they are still controlled by a white majority which explains the dismay. Please, only post on sites populated by trailer trash like yourself. This site has black people far too intelligent to converse with low society.

      • guest

        You are delusional. Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Baltimore are all controlled by blacks and have the highest crime rates in the country. Don’t you ever get sick of posting lies?

      • Takin a dump

        LOL tell more lies! They are hilarious!

  • Baron Münchhausen

    If white people are so horrible, why don’t black people just stay away from them? If there indeed exists “Institutional Racism©,” wouldn’t they be better off building their own institutions and running them? Wouldn’t they be safer from “White Racism©” if they stayed in their own communities, like South Chicago, or Detroit, or Memphis, or Birmingham, or East St.Louis, or Oakland, or South Dallas, or South Houston, to name a few? After all, It is obvious that black people are so much safer around other black people.

    • Chauncey Nixon

      All the places that you mention are white cities where black people, tainted by the stain of white rule, live. They are dangerous because the hater has taught hate. The safest cities in the world are in Africa: Accra, Nairobi, Gabbarone, CapeTown, Libreville, Tunis. So to respond to your question, yes, we are safer around black people, and you are as well. When blacks amalgamate with heathens and the uncultured, like the slave traders that brought us to this land, we are vulnerable, and unsafe. We adapt the practices of the evil landowners, thieves and capitalists criminals! That is how we end up with cities like the south of Chicago, and East St. Louis. The black people who were not stolen and enslaved are the kindest people on earth, and run the safest cities on earth!

      • guest

        You aren’t for real are you? You have to be just a lonely person who sits at their computer all day and come on these places just to have people communicate with you, right? You really can’t be this crazy?

  • Joel Zimmerebner

    You really need to look at that part of the video where he pulled the gun and imagine yourself from his point of view. He has a girl on the ground and some kid rips his hat off and runs toward the cop and puts his hand behind him. From our angle we can see that that kid is just pulling his pants up. But the cop cannot see that. Of course the cop would assume that the kid might be reaching for a weapon or something.

    • gapaul

      Gosh, if there was some concern the kids were armed, how come the officer didn’t order the big hulking white guy away from the scene? He might have exacerbated the scene or been hurt (if the cop was truly afraid.) Looks more like none of the white people were afraid, and hulking white guy was enjoying his role as a co-cop.

      • Joe T Plumber

        It didn’t have anything to do with them being armed. If you mob up on an officer who’s trying to control a crowd, as these kids did, expect the cop to defend himself–with deadly force, if necessary.

      • Joel Zimmerebner

        You talking about the pool security guard? The guy that the police were there to help?

        • gapaul

          Who knows who he is, but I can promise you that if the police show up and think someone is armed, they ask rent-a-cops to get out of the way. They are not quasi-police.

          • guest

            There are times when security guards are actually off duty cops. I don’t know about this case.

    • Chauncey Nixon

      So many cops get shot by kids when their is a large crowd of witnesses. (sarcasm) In fact, about 15 kids ran towards that cop after he bodyslammed the bikini clad teenager by her hair. His actions may not have been justified, but who cares. Too bad that THUG that got fired from her job at Bank of America for fighting kids initiated all this confusion. Maybe these ignorant people, who always ignore the facts, should be upset with her, after all, after Bank of America witnessed her actions, they acted responsibly. When will the rest of the white community take their lead and start being accountable and responsible for their actions? Leave it to the pill popping Limbaughs’, and the wife beating O’Reilly’s, or the rapist Duggan’s to uphold community values and this is where we end up!

      • guest

        So, you are admitting they ran towards the cop? That is illegal. You can’t charge and run towards a cop. They think you are going to attack them. A bikini does not mean someone can’t hurt you. Once again, provide proof she was fired and that she actually did what you say. Also, do you want me to name all the blacks who pill pop, beat up their wives and rape? It’s a pretty long list. If you had an IQ you would know that story about O’ Reilly was proven false and that Duggar did not rape anyone, but don’t let this stop you from lying.

  • Mark Myers

    I am appalled by Texas Monthly’s jump to conclusions without all the facts here. Certainly one officer was completely unprofessional, out of control, and downright brutal. He was, in fact, being a thug. But the way you are portraying the community as racist and wanting to kick out black kids is completely inaccurate and has crossed over into LIBEL. The facts are Tatiana Rhodes, a self-styled “event planner/promoter” threw the pool party as a way to sell tickets for her for-profit business. She did not ask permission of the HOA to use the community pool to throw a pool party like every other resident, white or black, is required to do, she invited way over the limit of 20 guests that the published HOA rules hold every resident who wants to throw a pool party to. The pool rules also require children under 16 to be accompanied by an adult, but kids were being dropped off by the carloads. When the security guard tried to enforce these rules and turn back kids who were young and unaccompanied, not accompanied by a resident or not on a guest list (because there was no guest list because Rhodes hadn’t followed the rules, just distributed hundreds of flyers), the kids defied and ignored him and started jumping over the fence. They were trespassing, just like I would be trespassing if I jumped the fence at the Austin Country Club. There was a verbal altercation between a resident and a trespasser in which BOTH people were saying things they should not have said, and that escalated into violence with the trespasser attacking the resident, and THAT is why the police were called. Your journalism here is disgraceful and libelous and you need to issue a retraction immediately.

    • MamaMacaroni

      Finally, someone speaks the truth! This article is so biased.

    • UUberbitz

      I’m supposed to believe YOU know the facts? PROOF needed.

      • Mark Myers

        Uh, my post was full of actual facts. Did you mean to say “independent verification” of the facts I provided? Happy to. Would CNN’s interview with an African-American resident of Craig Ranch and witnessed the event suffice?

        Black resident: This was not a racially motivated event

        Benet Embry, a 43-year-old black resident, saw things differently. Embry
        has lived at Craig Ranch, a planned community in McKinney, for eight
        years. He said it’s a nice place. Racially diverse. People get along
        there.

        He said when he was at the community pool Friday, a crowd of teenagers showed up, even though Craig Ranch’s strict homeowners’ association rules prohibit bringing more than two guests to the pool.

        The teens huddled by the gate and shouted to let them in. Some jumped over the fence, Embry said. A security guard tried to get them to leave but was outnumbered, so theguard called police.

        “Let me reiterate, the neighbors or the neighborhood did not call the police
        because this was an African-American party or whatever the situation
        is,” he said. “This was not a racially motivated event — at all. This
        whole thing is being blown completely out of proportion.”

        Embry did say he was disturbed to see the officer kneel on top of the bikini-clad girl and wave his gun at other teens. “I may or may not agree with everything that the police officer did, but Ido believe he was trying to establish order,” he said.

    • Joe T Plumber

      Don’t confuse these rabid lunatics with facts.

      • Chauncey Nixon

        Good News: The THUG who started all this was fired from her job at Bank of America.

        • guest

          Really? Can you show me this? If true, can you show me that they fired her, because she did something wrong, or if they fired her, to appease out of control paid trolls and some blacks?

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Cry all you want, but that ignorant THUG is out of a job!

          • guest

            Okay. Show me. I’ve only read they are investigating, but I’m sure the angry blacks will make sure she gets fired for trying to help her friend get freed from this chick. She didn’t realize that you are supposed to let someone who is black attack you and kill you. Next time, she will know.

  • Bhowe

    Thanks for adding your two cents. Here is another point of view that looked into the footage more

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/06/08/the-full-story-of-the-mckinney-texas-pool-mob-inside-the-craig-ranch-subdivision/

    • 44blue

      For the good of that little subdivision, I hope they find some way to evict that 20 year old and her enabling porcine mother. Very sad. They are walking “broken windows”.

  • UUberbitz

    ANOTHER out of control cop that the courts need to take care of like the rabid dog he is. But they won’t. Even if she had sustained serious injury or had died at his hands.

    A. Release his name to the public. We have a right to know who the abusive ones are.

    B. Why was every shown detainee black? Plenty of white teens there, too.

    C. Just where did he think she was hiding anything that made her a threat to him. Maybe she was concealing an AK in her bikini top?!

    D. There was only one person in this video being uncivil. If you want civilization back for the PEOPLE of America… we are going to have to take it back. How long until we have had enough?

  • pgptexas

    Regardless of why the police were called, did anyone see any ongoing fighting or looting or pillaging by the angry mob of teenagers once the police arrived?
    Did anyone see the 14 year old girl do anything illegal?
    The girl who was thrown on the ground, had her face pushed into the concrete, jerked back up by her hair, then forcibly held down by a grown man pinning his knees into her neck and back.
    Outside of not wanting to leave until she found her glasses and talking back to the police officer, what did she do so wrong to warrant such a reaction by the cop?
    For every single person saying these kids were hoodlums, disrespectful of the law, got what they deserved and wondering where their parents were, ask yourself how you would feel if your teenage daughter was that girl.
    If you actually saw what happened to your daughter/sister/friend on a video, what would you do? Especially if your daughter also talked back to the cop. Would you really think that type of physical treatment was an appropriate response to a smart mouth teenage girl? Having three teenage kids of my own, I can truthfully say there is a huge difference in hearing what happened and seeing it.
    Had you walked up on that scene with your teenage daughter being physically handled in that manner by a cop or anyone else, how would you react? My husband felt certain he would have ended up in jail had that been our daughter.
    If the girl was our daughter and her two brothers had been there as well, I think something much worse would have happened because they would have wanted to protect their sister from ham.
    A police officer’s job is to bring order and restore peace when a crowd is involved. This police officer actually did the opposite. His demeanor, language and aggressive behavior made that situation much worse.
    I am never surprised by things ignorant people say, but I am surprised at the lack of regard for a girl whose worst offense was talking back to a cop.

    • Joe T Plumber

      You didn’t see anything because the recording didn’t start until the officer did that silly roll. The news outlets have been negligent in investigating why the the police were called.

    • guest

      You sound like the type of parent who does not blame their child for anything. The fact that you think it’s okay for a teenage girl to talk back to an elder, especially a cop, shows your horrible parenting skills. I’m pretty sure your kids are a joy to teach too. So, your husband would attack the cop without even asking what his daughter did? Great parenting right there! A police officer’s job is to protect innocent people from the criminals, like these kids. This kid’s demeanor, language, and aggressive behavior, along with the others, mad this situation what is was. I’m never surprised by the ignorant things bad parents say. I am surprised at the lack of regard for the cop and the people who live there. I’m pretty sure your kids will be failures in life, because you don’t seem to be teaching them right from wrong.

      • pgptexas

        Bless your heart. You seem to have a lot of anger and if attacking my “horrible”” parenting skills and predicting the certain failures my children’s future gives you an outlet for that anger, then carry on.
        Fortunately, I am not too concerned about someone judging my parenting skills based on a post I made online. My kids would laugh at the notion that they haven’t been held accountable for doing things they shouldn’t, but you continue thinking what you want.
        I am so thankful we live in a free country giving us the right to freedom of speech even if the speech is hateful and ignorant. Have a nice day.

        • guest

          Bless your heart! You seem to have a lot of anger against the cop who was doing his job. Why do you act like this girl was innocent and so sweet? Why do you automatically believe her? I can tell by your answer, that you have had problems with your kids. It’s funny how you seem to think my speech was hateful and ignorant, but nothing you said was and all the things these kids said and did was not either. Wonder why?

  • wessexmom

    Who are the Fat White Middle aged thugs present throughout this video, supposedly assisting the cops? Why weren’t THEY arrested? Someone needs to call out these jerks by NAME because THEY are the REAL instigators who started this! One of them, the one imitating a skinhead also appears in the OTHER clip, the one of the women fighting. He’s the troublemaker!

    • Joe T Plumber

      Why should they be arrested? What evidence, outside of your overactive imagination, do you have that they were the instigators??

  • Ilpalazzo

    And yet this version of events is still different than all the other versions. There’s not even a mention of residents of neighborhood claiming party was blaring loud f-bomb music and that a lot of the kids were causing problems and not from the actual neighborhood.

    So who knows, the one fact is that this is a weaponized story.

  • wessexmom

    Who are the 2 fat white middle aged thugs present throughout the video of the McKinney smackdown? Who gave them the authority to acts as deputies for Officer Casebolt-“Clouseau”? The bald one with the white t-shirt w/ the black tree- like logo on back is the SAME GUY who gets involved with the women fighting in the second clip mentioned. Why wasn’t HE arrested? He seems to be the REAL instigator!

    Watch the clip (above) of the whole scene, including the new part showing what happens after the young woman is cuffed. THAT’s when the bald guy can be seen hovering nearby and then watch the second separate clip (noted in the article) of the women’s fight–and you will see the same bald guy getting involved in that fracas as well. He’s the troublemaker.
    When @Keef_Cakez beat that ass pic.twitter.com/EhB5mY2aus

    • Kimjungill

      His name is Henery Johnston.
      I showed your comments to him, he said he’ll show you a troublemaker.

  • Steven Murphy

    citizens everywhere!!
    are you tired of police harassment?
    rise up and start arresting these dickheads with badges.
    remember too that this asshole was in the military so next time you say ‘support the troops’ think again.
    build your own prisons, arrest the cops, give them a sentence that is harsh but fair and lock them up. you cannot wait for the state to do it because they won’t; you must do it yourselves.
    that piece of shit cop who murdered a kid on video the other day for wearing his headphones should be put away for life. the state isn’t going to do that thou.
    so do it, do it now.

    • Joe T Plumber

      Do away with the police force and let the Texas public mete out justice. You’ll see how quickly the “thugocracy” disappears.

  • Melinda Cook

    The real story by people that actually live there

    • Melinda Cook

      The host of the party

      • Melinda Cook

        The tweet she sent to hundreds of kids..and actual residency requirements to use the pool

        • Melinda Cook

          Other people, black and white that live in the area

          • Melinda Cook

            People that live in the neighborhood and their viewpoints

        • Joe T Plumber

          Is she showing us her IQ, or is that the number of friends she had before she hosted the riot..errr…”pool party”?

  • An Zep
  • NunyaDangBisness

    I just see cops that need to be put down like rabid dogs. Anyone who supports them deserves the same, if not worse.

    • Joe T Plumber

      See a shrink before you hurt yourself, junior.

  • guest

    Um, ” get used to the bars outside of the pool ” is not racist. The fences outside of pools like this usually look like bars. They meant get that you won’t get in . It does not mean jail. Also, if you live in section 8, why is telling you to go back there racist? I would also like to know, if the lady did say this, what gave the girl the right to assault her, which is against the law and why isn’t she in jail? It’s funny how 2 lives are going to be ruin and they have lost their jobs, while all these kids are getting away with no punishment. I hope to God these kids and their parents get sued!

    • Chauncey Nixon

      Where exactly is section 8?

      • guest

        It’s the government housing is some cities. That’s what they call it in Texas. In others, it’s called ” the projects.”

      • LauraAkers

        Actually, Section 8 is not “the projects.” It is a group of programs that subsidizes housing for low income households. I will get you a link.

        • mikey d

          Yes, sometimes it’s a voucher and there are time where it is a whole complex, or the projects,like the person from 2 days ago said. I lived in section 8, so I know.

        • Chauncey Nixon

          Why are you telling me that? I asked a sarcastic question that was intended to make “Guest” feel stupid for suggesting that someone should go back to section 8″. Your statement, projected towards me, makes her look less like an idiot!

          • guest

            Honey, I didn’t suggest that. Stop lying, like usual. First of all, reports came out yesterday that this lady did not say that and even if she had, if the girl actually has a section 8 voucher, it’s the truth, so maybe if she is embarrassed about it, she should give it back!

          • Chauncey Nixon

            You ma’am, are an idiot!

          • LauraAkers

            NOTHING makes her look that way. 😉

          • Chauncey Nixon

            Except for the mirror. lol. I appreciate you. I think we are wasting our time trying to educate her. She is a special kind of stupid!

    • Chauncey Nixon

      Section 8 is a program, not a place. No one can live there. If it were a place, how would it be known by a complete stranger, that one is a resident of that place?
      Answer – It was a racist comment with the intent to insult a child too young to create his own living arrangements and surroundings.

      • guest

        Section 8 housing. It’s a place and if you actually live there it’s not racist. I mean in other accounts you say more whites are on welfare, so they would live there right, so how can it be racist if blacks and whites live there? How do you know she even said this? Is there proof? I was working at 15. I guess, if you don’t have the money to have kids, then you shouldn’t have them. I didn’t have them for this reason, so why can’t other people follow my lead? So, the black girl constantly yelling about ” the white lady” is being racist too, right? Also, if she didn’t live there, then she should not have been there. It’s a private pool, for people who live and pay for it in that community. They are given two guest passes. If she didn’t have one, or live there, then she should not be there. I know you think what is mine, is yours, but that’s not how the real world works!

  • guest

    Too brutal to sit through? Um, okay. It’s pretty brutal watching the white lady get attacked by this kid. Those knock out videos were too brutal to sit through. The white kids getting attacked by the black girl, a couple months ago, was brutal. The guy getting beat up on the bus a few months ago, was brutal. Did you use ” brutal” to describe those events? Did you even cover those events? I wonder why? Maybe the race of the perps?

  • Toast Points

    Am glad Eric Casebolt has resigned and his former department has refused to stand by him. The uniforms in the video look like the Keystone cops for sure, until things got nasty and the bikini girl got thrown to the ground. Awful.

  • Bonnie Raymond

    I have no desire to excuse police behavior, but I have heard that Eric Casebolt was the commanding officer in this incident and that the other officers therefore had to obey him.

    • guest

      He didn’t get the memo that if the kids are black they get set to time out and then have to count to 5 and even if they broke the law, they are let go. It probably came after he left the department that day.

  • fotw150

    So you leave out the fact that the girl hosting the party was only allowed 4 guests at the pool yet made a twitter/facebook flier and invited hundreds of people into a neighborhood she didn’t live in. What gives her the right to break the rules? Have you been around a group of young black people? They always get a “strength in numbers” feeling and start hurling racial slurs and threats towards whites just as much as you allege that the whites do. Both sides are to blame equally. It wasn’t just “blacks had a pool party and the cops showed up and attacked everyone for no reason” like the liberal media wants to spin it. Young blacks have absolutely no respect for authority and are actually stupid enough to run up on a cop or interfere with a cop doing their job and not understand that they are going to get slammed down. The cop was doing his job and felt intimidated by a group of hundreds of black teens. Now he’s being used as the scapegoat and they had to make him resign from his job for damage control.

  • Jay K. Cottle

    This piece is written for opportunism. Your biggest problem in this writing is the comparison of the planned, controlled killing / ambush of bikers in Waco to this issue here in McKinney. You recite without any insight the police narrative that bikers’ actions killed themselves. “The bikers in Waco had a gunfight in broad daylight that killed nine people.” That’s more or less unsubstantiated garbage – only Waco PD really claims that, and their narrative from the get-go has been full of lies and retractions from initial “damage control” press releases. You seem more interested in capitalizing on possible “race relations” involved in the Waco butchery than in actually reporting on something that would be very interesting – that both Waco and McKinney involved police doing a mass roundup of people they had no probable cause to believe were either witnesses to or perpetrators of crime; in the case of Waco, a more heinous crime was committed than merely “nice” treatment after suspicious headshots downed several of the Waco bikers: they were each and all every single one of them JAILED with a million dollar bail arbitrarily applied without any dutiful investigation of their actions. The cops in McKinney acted in line with the expected police output: suspect Blacks of wrongdoing, escalate force to terrorize into submission, kill if they act out of line. In Waco, the cops ambushed the bikers and lied about where the gunfight took place, releasing claims that “all gunfire” occurred inside the Twin Peaks, when it’s clear that gunfire took place outside (or else next door Don Carlos wouldn’t be suing for property damage from GUNFIRE).
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/02/questions-remain-as-lawsuits-pile-up-against-twin-peaks-franchisee/

    I am sad you wasted your opportunity to report on something more relevant and legally compelling by choosing to go swimming in the race pool again.

    Waco PD Sergeant Swanton, the press man for this entire murder spree, said this about allegations Waco PD killed 4 as leaked by an internal source regarding their itchy trigger fingers: “I will tell you, is it possible? Yes. Is it a fact? No. Not until the autopsies are complete and we get the final results. Will we tell you how many we shot and how many were possibly deceased by police rounds? Without a doubt we will.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/05/20/waco-police-blast-cnn-for-spreading-information-that-may-have-been-incorrect/

  • Texaslewie

    For a journalist you don’t seem to take much time looking into the facts. 1. Craig Ranch North is the low end of the developments there and homes sell for half the price you are saying. But you can stir up more trouble making them look like rich folks can’t you… 2. There are pictures of the DJ’s tweets all over the internet if you take a second to look – you don’t bother to mention all these kids scrubbed their accounts to make themselves look innocent. 3. Most of the kids were NOT from Craig Ranch – that’s been published over and over again, along with the rules for residents, which Tatyana and her mother chose to ignore. Lastly….it’s only “unclear what happened at the pool that day” (as you claim) because the media chooses NOT to report what the residents and witnesses who were at the pool have repeatedly told them when interviewed. What happened to reporting both sides of a story and letting folks decide for themselves what they think? You media folks have turned into the scum of the earth as far as I’m concerned.

    • guest

      Isn’t it sad that they don’t care if they have ruined lives? It just seems like they have so much vengeance directed towards cops, people who don’t agree with them and whites. I just don’t get it. Do the Jews want to destroy the Germans? They have been treated more horribly than anyone.

  • 44blue

    Betrand Russell wrote, in “Unpopular Essays”, an essay titled “The Superior Virtue of the Oppressed” that,” They (writers, especially moralists) tend to think ill of their neighbors and acquaintances, and therefore to think well of the sections of mankind to which they themselves do not belong…A rather curious form of this…is the belief in the superior virtue of the oppressed: subject nations, the poor, women, and children.” Also, he observed this condescension in the eighteenth century in the sentimentalization of the “Noble Savage”, and ” the simple annals of the poor”…
    There are two narratives here: one is the actions of the (apparently stressed out – came from a suicide case, and before that, an attempted suicide) police officer, who was fired.
    The other narrative, (details can be found on the link, and which the writer dismissively labels as a “counternarrative” ) involves a large number of black trespassers climbing over the fences of a gated community, with loud, explicit, “F-bomb” rap music being played around children. This narrative involves frightened white people, and is therefore not appealing to the writer.
    The Superior Virtue of the Oppressed – indeed. Blacks, transexuals…”victimhood” has become the trump card in our society, and once played, no further examination of the facts is allowed.

    • guest

      Don’t forget the frightened black people who lived in the neighborhood too.

      • 44blue

        You’re right. Good point.

  • Leslie Knope

    Someone needs to call the cops, for the cops. Also, what WAS that barrel roll?

    In all seriousness, this paragraph right here:

    “There may be bad cops and good cops, but they all serve alongside one another, and when one of the bad ones slams a teenage girl in a bathing suit face-first into the ground repeatedly and draws his gun on a bunch of unarmed kids in a rage, the potentially good cops don’t appear to intervene.” They’ve GOT to get better at policing (no pun intended) their own.

    I am reminded, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” This is true everywhere in our country right now, here, politics, culture wars, etc.

    • guest

      He tripped over a tree root. So, since you talk about all these bad cops you seem to think exist hanging out with good cops and the good cops not doing anything in your mind, I guess you feel the same about kids, right? I mean, you can’t be a good kid and hang out with these kids who were breaking the law, right? She was not slammed and her face was not slammed, especially repeatedly. He drew his gun, because the kids came up behind him. Unarmed does not matter. People get beaten to death and strangled to death all the time. You talk about that quote, but what are you doing to make kids like this better? They broke the law and you just gloss over that. Teenagers and Young adults commit most crimes, especially murder. You must not be a good ” man ,” since you are doing nothing to fix this. I guess blaming the cops is just so much easier and you can do it from your couch.

  • Stan Miller

    Several non factual inferences in this article. I’m not surprised.

  • mj01323

    The part on the McKinney event sounds like you are writing for the HuffPo. I realize progressive is your thing, but watching the entire video (7 minutes is not all that happened), your comments sound odd at best. Maybe you should watch it again. Since you are an experienced law enforcement officer, you might explain why the officer may have pulled his gun, but reholstered it a few seconds later (note he never put his finger on the trigger). It sounds like you are actually writing to your fans in Austin, and did not bother to get many facts or interview any residents of Craig Hills Ranch. Par for the course for TM.

  • AmmoAlamo

    Who or what is that fat white man standing right in the middle of the action between Casebolt and the skinny black girl? Not one single cop pays him a bit of attention even though he is in the middle of that group, at times holding his arms out to impede the movement of others, at times moving around apparently to try to block the line of sight of the videographer. Who was that mystery fat white adult male, and why was he not told to get on the ground, or to sit down, or to leave the area, like was told to the other citizens (black youth) all around him?

    • fucco

      Why does it matter? He was trying to stop people from fighting and if you actually find an unedited video of this, it shows him helping the kids . He was not told to leave, because he wasn’t doing anything wrong, he was not one of the criminals breaking the law, he was not yelling, or attacking the cop. You keep seeing what you want to though.

  • Char’s an idiot

    Riddle me this…how long will the “past” justify crimes like criminal trespassing and assualt by black teenagers?

  • I1ST5XS

    “Escaping the officer in the video seems like essential self preservation.”

    It is disappointing that Texas Monthly would allow such an immflammatory statement to be published. After listing names of five individuals who died under questionable circumstances, the author basically states it is not only a good idea but actually a requirement for survival to resist a lawful command by a police officer.
    The people cited by the author are three who absolutely resisted lawful police commands (two of them violently) and their death was a direct consequence of resisting arrest. One was a pre-teenager brandishing a realistic fake weapon who was unfortunately shot and killed because one police officer overreacted to a 911 call about an individual threatening the public with a gun. Unfortunately it seems this one officer did not even take the time to issue a lawful command to allow the youth to drop his weapon or stand down but Tamir Rice’s circumstances have no correlation to McKinney. Reika Boyd was an individual who was shot in an incident by an individual who happened to be an off-duty police officer in plainclothes. Again an incident that has nothing in common to McKinney.

    Yes police can make mistakes. Police do make mistakes. To encourage people to resist lawful commands by police officers is irresponsible, to say that resisting police officers is essential self preservation can probably only lead to further needless tragic circumstances that will hurt families and communities on both sides of any future police related shooting.

    Shame on you Dan Solomon, Shame on you Texas Monthly.

    Further, Mr. Solomon goes on to cite the Waco incident showing bikers sitting peacefully and using their cell phones as an example of “special treatment” by the police when instead it shows that when you fully comply with police commands, that peaceful circumstances are what commonly prevails. It is very likely if any of the bikers had acted like the black teens in McKinney, their treatment by the police officers in Waco would have been very different.

    Encouraging people to disobey the police is just plain wrong.