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Inside a Lifelong Obsession With the Kennedy Assassination

The recent release of JFK files is probably the last significant injection of new information into the psychic landscape in which assassination theorists like Mark North have resided for the past 54 years.

By December 2017Comments

President John F. Kennedy waves from his car in a motorcade in Dallas. Riding with Kennedy are First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy, right, Nellie Connally, second from left, and her husband, Texas Gov. John Connally, far left. The National Archives released the John F. Kennedy assassination files on Thursday, Oct. 26, 2017.
AP Photo/Jim Altgens, File

This story originally appeared in the December 2017 issue with the headline “A Dealey Plaza of the Mind.”

To some, the American Century had a well-defined peak. When President John F. Kennedy’s Lincoln Continental turned left at the intersection of Houston and Elm Streets in downtown Dallas, the nation was in the midst of postwar consensus and prosperity; by the time the vehicle had reached the triple underpass at the bottom of Dealey Plaza, the country was headed toward a great unraveling. Or so the story goes.

On October 26 and November 3 the National Archives released 3,567 previously sealed documents relating to the Kennedy assassination, as mandated by a 1992 law that Congress passed with the intention of someday clearing the air. While dozens of documents affected by the law remain classified, the recent release is probably the last significant injection of new information into the psychic landscape in which assassination theorists like Mark North have resided for the past 54 years.

North, who lives in Austin, is a retired lawyer and university administrator and the author of two books on the assassination: Act of Treason: The Role of J. Edgar Hoover in the Assassination of President Kennedy (1991) and Betrayal in Dallas: LBJ, the Pearl Street Mafia, and the Murder of President Kennedy (2011). North was ten when his elementary school classroom was invaded by the news and his entire class was sent home midday. “I was glued to the TV the whole weekend,” he said. Two days later, a bleary-eyed North got to see Jack Ruby’s intercession in the case. “I stood there and watched [Lee Harvey] Oswald get shot, live on television.”

A suspicion that something was amiss in the official narrative was confirmed by a screening of the Zapruder film North attended in college. “It was clear that he had been shot from the right front,” he said, not behind, as everyone had been told. That helped launch a lifetime fascination with the case.

Alternative theories of the assassination range from the relatively sober to the cartoonish—for example, that Jackie Kennedy did it. North’s thesis, which he’s spent several decades honing, is that Robert F. Kennedy’s investigations of organized crime posed an existential threat to the Dallas Mafia, which was inextricably bound up with the city’s legal and political establishment. That latter group included, by extension, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, who, according to North, preferred that investigators not dwell on the political seediness of his home turf. American intelligence agencies favored a left-wing dupe like Oswald as the villain, and FBI director J. Edgar Hoover was happy not to ask too many questions either.

These days, North seems more resigned than animated by all of this. Though some conspiracy theorists were excited about the release of the new material, he sounded fatalistic; to him, the release was a marker of the passage of time as much as anything else. “I don’t know if these documents will [support] what’s in my book,” he said, speaking the week before the release. “I would hope so. But I don’t feel that there’s something I need to see in there.” He’d already unearthed what he thought needed to be unearthed.

A sample of the 3,567 Kennedy assassination-related documents recently released by the National Archives.

Courtesy National Archives

In 1991, when North’s first book was published, the assassination community was vibrant and argumentative. Oliver Stone’s JFK came out that year, and North was interviewed on Larry King Live and Geraldo. “There was a lot of animosity [among conspiracy theorists] back then, a lot of infighting,” he said. “The CIA people, the Mason people, the Big Oil people, the military-industrial complex people were all working against each other. It was almost a question of, ‘Who didn’t do it?’ ” North focused on the Mafia and the FBI and got more pushback from other theorists than from the Feds.

In hindsight, he wonders if the proliferation of strange theories hadn’t been encouraged by the government, in the same way a defense attorney will try to “sow doubt in the juror’s mind by throwing out a bunch of other different suspects.” But he prefers that din to the slow fading of the cultural memory of the assassination that he sees today. He spent years digging in archives, doing interviews, and pulling documents from government agencies for his second book, which he regards as a far more authoritative work than his first. “I was surprised by the reaction to it,” he said. “I thought it would generate more public discussion.”

Reached a few days after the release of the documents, North confirmed that his low expectations of their contents had been met. The files contain a lot of embarrassing material about the CIA, which is most likely why they remained classified for so long, but precious little new information about Kennedy. Others had noted a few hints of something strange, enough to keep speculation going, but “nothing that addresses the material in my book,” North said. “A lot of this is kind of old stuff.” He no longer expects that a “smoking gun” will ever appear, but he would like to see the government someday “step up to the plate” and “man up and say, ‘This is what happened.’ ”

“I kind of feel like I’ve done my part,” North said. The loss of a sense of trust and security experienced by his ten-year-old self has never left him, but in the intervening years the cycles of paranoia and fear have multiplied and sped up for everybody else. Though the September 11 attacks provided conspiracy fodder for a younger generation, now even that has all but vanished. The weekend of the October document dump was full of speculation about special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s then-imminent indictments of Trump campaign officials allegedly involved in another bizarre international conspiracy, and John Fitzgerald Kennedy quickly faded from the news. “People have so much else on their minds now,” North said.

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  • Roguewave1

    There were three shots fired on that day and they all came from the Dallas School Book Depository as multiple witnesses attested to hearing the empty ejected shell casings bouncing off the cement floor above them boom..one…boom…two…boom…three.

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    • BH

      And 57 witnesses attested to shots being fired from in front of the Limo- not from the TBD.

      • Steve Gregg

        Two ear witnesses were directly under Oswald on the 5th floor and heard the shots directly above them, heard him work the bolt, heard the ejected brass roll on the floor.

        • BH

          Under Oswald?
          These two ear witness on the 5th floor ( actually there were three-, one Bonnie Ray Williams ( the consumer of the famous chicken lunch & Dr. Pepper ), James Jarmen and Harold Norman to be accurate ) according to the WC Commission were the ones who reported what you claim.
          Here is what really happened if you read their testimony.
          Norman said he heard a bolt close and what he thought were shells hitting the floor above him and. Jarmen testified that he believed the shots came from the the 4th floor which was located below them This isn’t mentioned in the Report nor did WC Counsel Bell show any interest in pursuing further statement by the three men that they also paused a few moments before running downstairs to report the gunfire. According to their own testimony, it was 15 minutes before they reached the street and told their story.
          6th floor or 4th floor?

          • Steve Gregg

            The account I read said they recognized it coming from the sixth floor directly above them. Workmen were stripping the sixth floor so that you could see through the cracks in the flooring. After the shots stopped, they saw the crowd run to the grassy knoll, so they ran down to that end of the building, even though they knew the shooter was above them. That shows the hysteria driving everyone.

          • BH

            I appreciate the quick response.
            Which account did you read?
            Doesn’t it seem unlikely that they would ran away from the alleged source of the shots instead of running up to see who was there themselves or immediately inform the police?
            Worse. Why as you pointed out, was the crowd running toward the Grassy knoll? All the shots came from the 6th floor of the TBD according to the WCR right? So what was so interesting about the knoll?
            Yes indeed workman had been making floor repairs all week on the 6th floor.
            But how does that place LHO there at 12:30 PM?
            Several witnesses placed him in the 2nd floor lunchroom anywhere between 11:50AM and 12:15 PM.
            Bonnie Ray Williams said he ate his lunch on the 6th floor until 12:15 PM and said he saw nobody.
            Rather hard for LHO to have moved all these boxes around for the infamous snipers nest in such a short time, fire 3 shots, hide the rifle ( but not the incriminating shells ) run down four flights of stairs ( and not be seen ) calmly purchase a coke and then be confronted by Superintendent Truly and Officer Baker with 90 seconds of the shooting isn’t it?

          • Steve Gregg

            It was decades ago. I don’t recall the source.

            The fact that the workmen on the 5th floor ran along with the crowd toward the grassy knoll shows how irrational people are in crowds.

            Yes, there was an employee who ate his lunch on the 6th floor while Oswald was hidden in his box fort. He left his empty coke bottle and chicken bones there, which Life (?) magazine show pictures of, calling it, in error, the assassin’s lunch. Yet, Oswald’s palm print on the boxes show he was there along with the brass from the rifle and the rifle itself. Also, the witnesses which saw a rifle sticking out from the window.

            People have reenacted Oswald’s flight from the window to the Coke machine and shown it was possible. Oswald was incredibly lucky in the first few minutes of the assassination. Yet, he was so desperate to flee that he shot a cop who stopped him. Why?

          • Tim Griffin

            lady in the TSBD says she was making change for Oswald in the lunchroom when she heard the shots. Case closed.

          • Steve Gregg

            Oswald’s rifle was found on the sixth floor with his palm print on it. Case closed.

          • BH

            The idea that the rifle could have planted is impossible right?
            Why just his palm print ( of dubious veracity )?
            How come none of his fingerprints were found on said rifle or on the supposedly found shells near the ‘snipers nest?’
            Doesn’t that seem a bit odd to you Steve?

          • Tim Griffin

            only after the FBI got hold of it.

          • BH

            No in reality Sebastian Latona, head of the FBI HQ’s Fingerprint section didn’t find any prints( specifically the palm) on the rifle once it arrived in DC earlier in the morning of the 23rd.
            Lt Day Day of DPD ‘ forgot’ to incude any note to the FBI that he had supposedly lifted a palm print ( later identified as LHO’s ) from underneath the stock.
            Funny isn’t it that after his murder, several FBI agents visited the funeral home where LHO’s body was on Sunday night and demanded unfettered and private access to it.
            After they left, the funeral director had to wipe finger print ink off the hands of LHO’s corpse in the casket in order for it to be viewable by the family the next day.
            Now I wonder why the FBI needed the fingerprints off a dead man when the had several sets taken after his arrest not counting his Marine Corps records?
            Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

          • Steve Gregg

            The FBI did not do the initial search which found the rifle nor did the FBI concoct the palm print as you imply. Such is the stuff of conspiracy nuttiness.

          • BH

            Now you are simply guessing my friend.
            Oswald was hidden in his ‘box fort’?
            How could he be in his ‘fort’ when Bonnie Ray Williams was dining on the 6th floor ( it was a Dr. Pepper bottle- not a Coke- that was LHO downstairs who bought the Coke ) at the exact same time Carolyn Arnold placed Oswald eating his lunch in the Domino room on the 2nd floor? How could Arnold Rowland be seeing two men ( one with a rifle ) on the 6th floor at the same time we know Oswald was downstairs?
            So. Those running toward the grassy knoll are irrational crowd types ( including police ) but those who heard the shots coming from the TBD are expert witnesses?
            Oh the brass shells from the rifle. That too is interesting.
            So you are going to murder the POTUS, and you only bring 4 rounds. Funny how they all managed to be photographed like little tin soldiers lined up in front of the window sill when logic and firearms physics would tell you that they would have been ejected to the right of the shooter and landed to the rear.
            Better yet, the brilliant Captain Will Fritz, put one in his desk back at HQ and it stayed there for several days. No evidence protocol followed there either.
            Worse- neither the FBI or local police could ever locate any merchant where that type of ammunition was sold in the DFW area or any additional rounds in LHO’s possession.
            As for LHO killing Tippett, that too isn’t a certainty and far from provable.

  • Anarchus

    A complete nothingburger. So some guy thinks that by watching the Zapruder film he can tell with certainty the shots came from the right front and not the rear. Whatever.

    • Steve Gregg

      The bullet fragments from Kennedy’s head shot flew forward to nick the inside of the windshield. That’s consistent with a rear shot, not a front shot. Also, as you can see from the Zapruder film, Jackie’s face was backstopping a shot from the right front, yet she was unharmed.

      • Tim Griffin

        Steve, have you ever read Chief Currey’s statement that they never could place Oswald “at that window with that rifle?”

        • Steve Gregg

          Nope. Yet, his palm print was there, spent brass from his rifle was there, and his rifle with his palm print was there. Do you suppose Oswald just happened to be hunting rabbits up there when the president passed by? Really, why did he hide the rifle when he brought it to work? Why did he flee the depository immediately after the shooting, gunning down a cop in his path?

  • E. T. Bass

    I’m a retired detective and read the Warren Report in its entirety.
    Despite criticism over the years, it’s a very comprehensive investigation and leads one to the conclusion that 0swald was a sick egocentric anti-American loser who acted alone.

    Oswald’a personality profile is very similar, if not identical to, today’s anarchist punks like Antifa, BLM and OWS.

    • BH

      I too am a retired Detective.
      Did you read all 26 volumes?.
      I must take exception to your confidence in that fairy tale on the public in September 1964.
      Far from being comprehensive, it was a farce of the highest degree. It began with a preconceived goal of attempting to substantiate a preconceived conclusion that LHO, acting alone killed JFK.
      Inconvenient or obtuse witnesses who didn’t abide by the company line were dismissed or ignored.
      As for Oswald and his personality I have a question.
      Why, unlike numerous other assassins who did their deeds successfully and bragged about it, why did LHO never admit his guilt during the 22 hours of police interrogation ( devoid of notes or tape recordings all in the finest investigatory example of DPD at the time)?
      For a loner seeking historical notoriety, why the claim of being a patsy eh?
      Better yet, how much of the so-called ‘evidence’ gathered against LHO would have been admissible?
      Start by justifying the theft of JFK’s corpse from Parkland.

      • E. T. Bass

        Yes I read the entire report over several months.
        Anyone who reads the report with an open mind, especially those with an investigative background in my opinion, will come to the conclusion that the physical evidence and witness testimony point directly at Oswald as the lone shooter. Some of the evidence was handled improperly, even by 1963 standards, but would not have affected the outcome of a trial had there ever been one.
        Why didn’t Oswald admit to killing JFK? Because Lee Harvey Oswald was a chronically unemployed, wife beating punk with dellusions of self-importance, always thought he was smarter than everyone else (he was a pompous idiot) and thought he could beat the rap. After his arrest he attempted to contact the best known pro-communist lawyer in the country. If you read the witness testimony, and there are dozens of them, you will see a picture of a loser who wasn’t bright enough to conspire with anyone or be part of a larger plot.

        • BH

          Congratulations for reading the entire report ET. Most people don’t.
          I disagree completely that regardless of 1963 standards the outcome wouldn’t have affected the trail.
          Just for example, how many homicide cases have you been involved with that were capable of prosecution when the chain of custody of the body was illegally removed and in reality, no legal autopsy was in fact conducted?
          Moreover, you and I have known many chronically unemployed, wife beating slime balls who had high opinions of themselves during our careers.
          But that doesn’t translate into being able to convict them of a murder does it?
          If I may, I suggest you read Sylvia Meagher’s epic ” Accessories After the Fact.”
          It was in my view the best dissection of the WC Report ever written.

          • E. T. Bass

            With all the potential defects in the government’s case I just don’t see Oswald getting off. I was a conspiracy guy for years, but pretty much abandoned all that after reading the commission report. I understand V. Bugliosi’s “Case Closed” is a compelling work backing up the Warren Report, but I’ve never read it. I think I will take you up on your suggestion on Meagher’s book, however. Regards..

          • BH

            I too my friend vacillated in views for many years.
            I am 67 and my interest in the case began in 1967 so you can see I have invested many years of study into what, as a retired LEO like you, merely see as a homicide. Who the victim was is not relevant if viewed objectively.
            But like any hobby, such interest requires an ongoing pursuit.
            I have enjoyed the conversation E.T.
            By the way, Gerald Posner authored ‘Case Closed’. Vince Bugliosi wrote the magnum opus Re-Claiming History’ on the assassination. Both supported the WC summation.
            Best regards and a Happy Thanksgiving to you too brother-in-blue and happy research!

          • E. T. Bass

            You are correct. Re: Posner / Bugliosi . . .
            Thanks, best wishes..

          • Tim Griffin

            A first year law student could have gotten Oswald off.

          • E. T. Bass

            I think you watch too much TV.

          • Tim Griffin

            google his comment. I forget the article where it wa written.

      • Steve Gregg

        It’s true that LBJ wanted an investigation that proved Oswald guilty to close the case and settle the public mind. That was made very easy because Oswald was guilty.

        It’s pretty common for homicide detectives to encounter lying or mistaken witnesses. There were only perhaps about 240 people in Dealey Plaza when JFK was shot, yet numerous people claimed to be there. Jim Leavelle, the Dallas homicide cop who was working the JFK homicide said that if he could round up every person who told him they were in Dealey Plaza that day, he could fill the Cotton Bowl. A newspaper reporter for the Dallas paper, who was a rookie reporter at the time, said his naivete was shattered about how many people would lie about a public event like that. And, really, just watch the late night talk shows interview people on the street about imaginary events and see them claim they saw them. The streets are full of liars.

        It’s hard to know what was percolating inside Oswald’s crazy head, but, maybe, just maybe, he did not confess to JFK’s murder because he did not want to be executed.

        The mishandling of JFK’s body and cleaning up the limo were bad practice, but irrelevant to Oswald’s guilt. Rather, it shows how emotion was driving events rather than reason and law. They wanted to get the body back to DC, home country, and away from Dallas, which they considered hostile country, for a number of irrational reasons. They cleaned up the limo so that Jackie would not see her husband’s brains splattered all over it when obviously all the evidence should have been preserved.

        • BH

          “It’s true that LBJ wanted an investigation that proved Oswald guilty to close the case and settle the public mind. That was made very easy because Oswald was guilty.”
          He was? And LBJ and J.Edgar Hoover knew all this within 4 days after the assassination?
          Who made them judge, jury and executioner?
          You brush off what you term as ‘ mishandling ‘ of JFK’s body and cleaning out the Limo of evidence as nothing of any consequence.
          Let me put it in plain language.
          The Federal government illegally removed and destroyed evidence in a Texas homicide case.
          “Emotion driving events rather then reason and the law?”
          So because JFK was the victim, the Constitutional protection of any accused didn’t apply in this case?
          They destroyed evidence. They obstructed justice and tampered with the legal chain of custody.
          Jackie wasn’t part of the legal equation regardless of whatever intentions were at play.
          The Judge at Parkland was correct. It was just another homicide.
          It wouldn’t have been admissible at a trial regardless of who was involved or what emotions were in order that day.
          You recall what LHO allegedly told the cops enroute to police HQ’s after his arrest when told he was being charged with killing Tippett?
          He supposedly said, ” I hear they fry for that in Texas.”
          He would have been the first assassin in history to deny his feat. The possibility of being executed going through his mind is again merely a guess.
          I know you place a great deal of faith in Leavelle which is understandable.
          But Leavelle didn’t tamper with the evidence or was in complete control of DPD or the Feds actions that weekend.
          He and Graves just happened to be the ones unfortunate to have been handcuffed to LHO when he was murdered by Jack Ruby.
          That is Leavelle’s real claim to fame in this case.

      • Tim Griffin

        yes, chief Currey said “we never could put Oswald at that window with that rifle.”

  • Michael Lang

    A life wasted on a fantasy. Sad.

  • wolfman jack

    This is the kind of bull that the Deep State has one of their apparatchiks put out. It is too bad a few deeply disturbed people don’t believe Big Brother. Definition of a disturbed person? Someone who doesn’t believe Big Brother. Why won’t this distrust go away?

  • Rob

    I watched a fascinating show years ago about some folks that setup the three shots, taking all the known facts into account (the jump seat, etc). They used ballistics dummies with bone in them. The magic bullet shot ended up laying on the lap of the 2nd dummy and it was pristine. More importantly, they they took x-rays of the bodies and sent them to the LA County Coroner to get his opinion on what had happened telling him it was a real shooting. He concluded that two shooters where involved, even though they had camera evidence that only one was. Sometimes life is just to weird to be believed…

    • BH

      That particular television ‘show’ was complete balderdash.
      It too worked from the preconceived notion that LHO fired three shots from the 6th floor of the TBD and did everything possible to attempt to show such an act was both possible and genuine.
      It followed the same script as the WC.
      The Magic bullet alone ( WC Exhibit # 399 ) is ridiculous besides not having any proper chain of custody.

      • Steve Gregg

        The “Magic Bullet” had a big dent in it. The conspiracy nuts always choose the photo of it from the undented side. When you get no farther than the title of a theory before you encounter your first lie, it’s safe to discount it.

        • BH

          Moreover OP Wright, head of security at Parkland who after receiving it from Darrell Tomllison an engineer also at Parkland who found the so-called MB at Parkland lying conveniently on a ‘stretcher’, refused to identify the one featured ( Comm Exhibit 399 ) as the same bullet he held in his hands that day.
          Once again, the chain of custody was contaminated and thus rendered useless.

          • Steve Gregg

            Also, another documentary fired a similar bullet with a similar bullet through several feet of pine board. The bullet came out the other end in perfect condition, not deformed at all.

          • BH

            Why no mention of the countless other ballistic tests that completely destroyed the Single Bullet pristine idea?

          • Steve Gregg

            Why do you expect people to argue your side for you?

            If you run a test that shows something was possible, that refutes any test that shows it was impossible.

          • BH

            Then you just weakened your own arguments didn’t you on many aspects of this entire case.

          • Steve Gregg

            No, I haven’t. It is pure logic that you need only one exception to prove the case.

          • BH

            Steve.
            There is no case.
            LHO never lived to see his day in court did he?
            He was never afforded the opportunity of a criminal defense that could cross-examine witnesses against him or question the validity of the so-called evidence.
            The 5th,6th & 14th Amendments didn’t apply in his case.
            He was judged guilty by LBJ, Hoover and the shameful WC.

          • Steve Gregg

            Just because Oswald never lived to be tried means he is innocent. All the gangsters killed in the Valentine’s Day massacre were guilty even though they did not live to be tried. LBJ, Hoover, and the Warren Commission thought he was guilty. They were right. Oswald did it. This murder was not hard to solve. Oswald was a stupid criminal he left clues all over.

          • BH

            But smart enough to not leave any fingerprints on the rifle, the ammunition and so skilled as a marksman he only needed to bring 4 rounds of ammunition with him to commit the crime of the century.
            I see.

          • Steve Gregg

            How could you positively identify a bullet you held in your hand later? To most people, all bullets look alike. Yet, here was a bullet found at Parkland that was the caliber of Oswald’s rifle and had passed through that rifle. How did that bullet get there if not transported by Connally?

          • BH

            Now the route from that bullet being allegedly passing through both Kennedy and Connolly, finding its way to a stretcher in Parkland, handled by two hospital employees ( Wright and Tommlison ) ( if they couldn’t ID it later and there was no significance attached to it- why show it to them? )- given to a SS Agent who personally took it to DC and surrendered it to SS Chief Rowley ( and both of them couldn’t ID the bullet later either ) and submitting it to the FBI without one law enforcement identification evidence marking such as initials, the entire piece of evidence – WC # 399 ) becomes questionable and again, under cross-examination, would be destroyed.

          • Steve Gregg

            What’s the downside of showing the bullet to the hospital employees? Nothing. It’s possible one or both could have identified it, however unlikely. It’s worth a shot.

            I’m no expert on police procedure, but I take your point that collecting it without marking it as evidence is shoddy practice and probably would have discounted it in court.

            However, at the lower standard of everyday conversation, it’s pretty convincing that a bullet of the caliber of Oswald’s rifle that had passed through Oswald’s rifle and turned up at the hospital and nowhere else is an argument supporting Oswald’s guilt. If you reject Occam’s razor that the simplest explanation is the likeliest, then you have to wade into the swamp of conspiracy theories to explain how that bullet got there.

          • BH

            Well I am an expert in police procedure having been a police officer and detective supervisor for 37 years.
            Are you also aware that after the JFK assassination, they tried to pin the failed shooting of General Walker on LHO as well?
            They ran into the same problems with the recovered bullet.
            They didn’t match the infamous Mannlicher-Carcano. Even Walker when he examined it said that there was no resemblance to the one he was shown as compared to the one dug out of his house that night.
            The same is true about Com Exhibit # 399. There is no scientific or forensic proof that that particular round was fired from the MC. Worse its weight minus the few grains of lead missing from its body is still greater then the fragments recovered from Connally’s wrist.
            Can you see the problem here?
            If the evidence as you admit was shoddy and inadmissible- that rather damages the prosecutions case doesn’t it?
            That wasn’t the only inadmissible evidence questionably collected that weekend.
            How for example, would any homicide case get prosecuted successfully when the body itself cannot be introduced owing to no legal autopsy or the law being followed?
            What I reject or accept isn’t relevant.
            What is admissible as lawfully seized evidence under the 4th amendment is what matters.

          • Steve Gregg

            Oswald made the assassination attempt on General Walker and confessed the same to his wife, Marina. He laughed that the cops were looking for a getaway car when he took the bus. He had taken a reconnaissance photo of the back of Walker’s house.

            The Walker bullet was too deformed to come to any conclusions about it, since it had passed through the windowframe. Neutron analysis said it probably was a Mannlicher-Carcano.

            There were any number of problems with the way the evidence was handled that might have sprung Oswald on a technicality, even though Oswald was guilty.

            As far as the recovered stretcher bullet and the bullet fragments from the car, I believe both had metallurgical traces from the barrel of Oswald’s gun.

          • BH

            He confessed the Walker shooting to Marina?
            This is the same Marina who changed her testimony four times on various issues in front of the WC and claimed to have locked LHO in a bathroom?
            Funny isn’t it?
            How many cheap apartments are built were an alleged wife abuser can be ‘locked’ inside?
            For that matter, how many bathrooms are in existence where that capability is available?
            But for grins- let’s say LHO lived.
            Guess what? Marina couldn’t testify against her husband.
            Worse, a 14 year-old boy saw two(2) men escaping the area at the time of Walker’s shooting in a vehicle.
            How did Lee manage to transport a rifle to the scene of Walker’s residence undetected?
            Marina said he buried the rifle ( no shovel or other tools ) and later recovered it.
            When found in the TBD, there was no dirt or oil in or on the weapon.
            Neutron activation is not conclusive to exclude the Walker fragment ( or the stretcher bullet ) beyond a reasonable doubt when compared to other ammunition.

  • SaguaroJack49

    I saw a documentary on tv about a guy permanently in prison, a hit man. He said he killed Kennedy from a manhole in front of the motorcade. He said he hit him in the throat. He said, “What are they gonna do to me, put me in prison?”

    • Steve Gregg

      TV crews have gone down in the sewer grates along the section of road where JFK was shot and demonstrated that hitting him from there was impossible.

  • Steve Gregg

    Some years ago, I met Jim Leavelle, the homicide detective handcuffed to Oswald when he was shot. He said the murder was easy to solve, not much different from any Saturday night shooting in Dallas. The only thing different was that a famous person was involved.

    Oswald was no genius and his crime was easy to solve. The bullets which struck Kennedy and Connally passed through the barrel of Oswald’s rifle. The rifle, with Oswald’s palm print on it, was found near the sniper’s perch in the book depository. Two ear witnesses directly below Oswald hear the shots from the floor above, heard the bolt working, heard the ejected shells rolling on the floor. Several people from other buildings saw the rifle sticking out of the sixth floor window. One witness, standing directly across from the depository, saw Oswald in the window after the third shot.

    And all the foolish conspiracy theories saying otherwise are false. Let’s assume it was a conspiracy that killed JFK. There are hundreds of conspiracy theories, yet only one can be true. That tells you, even assuming it was a conspiracy, that all conspiracy nuts, but one, are lying, crazy, or stupid. I’m telling you it’s one more than that.

    Oswald did it alone.

    • BH

      “The rifle, with Oswald’s palm print on it, was found near the sniper’s perch in the book depository. He left another palm print on a box at the sniper’s window. ”
      Unfortunately the infamous ‘palm print’ of LHO was not found by the FBI the evening they received the rifle from DPD- nor any other identifiable prints . The ‘ palm print’ was later reported by Lt. Day to have been secured earlier in the evening of the 22nd but he failed to convey such information to the FBI lab prior to sending it to DC.
      What significance is there in LHO having a palm print on boxes around the so-called ‘ snipers nest?
      He worked on that floor. There were numerous other prints found on the same boxes which were never identified. Would your finger and palm prints be discovered in say your kitchen or bathroom at home? Same thing.
      The ‘eyewitness’ you cite having seen Oswald after the third shot, was one Howard Brennan. This guy was so observant he could referee professional wrestling. Interesting isn’t it that he couldn’t later ID LHO in a line-up at police headquarters even though Oswald’s face had been plastered over TV and newspapers. Other eyewitnesses such as Arnold Rowland who saw and described two men ( one white and one Negro ) in the window of the 6th floor just prior to the shooting- one holding a rifle – were ignored by the WC and the FBI.
      Lavelle is correct on one point. It was just another homicide regardless of the victim being the President.
      Too bad, all evidence collection and normal police investigation were discarded.
      Oswald did it alone? According to who? Was he tried and convicted in a court of law where cross-examination was present and the proof had to be beyond a reasonable doubt?
      Please don’t place those of us who have studied this case for decades and reject the fable of the WC conclusions as conspiracy nuts in the same league as 9/11 inside job proponents or fake moon landing believers.

      • Steve Gregg

        It’s pretty significant that Oswald’s palm print was found on one of the boxes inside the sniper’s nest. He did not move just one box to build his little nest, but several.

        Nobody was working on the 6th floor at that time. Workmen were ripping the floor up to replace it.

        Brennan says he refused to ID Oswald immediately after the shooting because he thought there might be a conspiracy and he did not want to be the witness who identified Oswald for fear of retaliation.

        There were two guys hanging out the window of the 5th floor, as a photo taken prior to the assassination shows. They could easily be mistaken for being on the sixth floor. I had to count the floors to the sixth

        If you’re guilty you are guilt whether you are found guilty in court or not. Capone was guilty of a number of bloody crimes but never found guilty of any of them but tax evasion. OJ was guilty but found innocent.

        The evidence damns Oswald as the lone killer. There is no convincing evidence of a conspiracy.

        • BH

          Oh my.
          Just a few questions Greg and I do not mean to sound demeaning or insulting.
          How many years have you spent investigating and researching the case?
          How many books that promote both ‘Oswald did it Alone’ vs. the possibility that there was indeed a conspiracy and Oswald might be innocent?
          So they found Oswald’s print on one of the boxes made construct the so-called snipers nest?
          Fine.
          Why only one? Why were they not on the numerous boxes as you claim.
          There were forests of other finger prints as well- but none aside from LHO’s single print was identified.
          Brennan’s testimony would have been eviscerated in court under cross-examination. You don’t use a phony excuse like he being to make an ID out of fear of a conspiracy and then change your mind once you feel better about it.
          I am curious as to just what exactly this damning evidence is that points LHO as the lone killer.

          • Steve Gregg

            I’ve been reading about the assassination since it happened when I was in the third grade. However, it’s not the length of time you’ve been reading about it, but rather the quality of the reading. The conspiracy books I’ve leafed through were obviously stupid from the get go. They are not a bit convincing. They range from stupid to insane. Particularly Stone’s insane book accompanying his insane movie.

            When I lived in DFW, the JFK assassination is about the only historical event that happened there, so I made it my project. I’ve been to all assassination sites except Oswald’s home. I’ve seen many conspiracy clowns on Dealey Plaza spouting their insane nonsense. I’ve ridden a Lincoln Continental akin to JFK’s limo on a simulated run past Dealey Plaza to Parland. I’ve read both the serious tick tick books and regular books, though Bugliosi’s tome is still waiting for me to tackle it. I met Jim Leavelle.

            So, if I’ve done all this and you haven’t, does that mean I win?

            You only need one palm print on a box at the sniper’s nest to connect Oswald to it. Another palm print on the assassination weapon on the sixth floor pretty much nails it.

            If you will recall, it was you who claimed there were numerous palm prints from Oswald on boxes on the sixth floor, not I. Keep your facts straight.

            If you don’t know all the evidence convicting Oswald, you need to bone up on the assassination. I’ve summarized them in a post in this thread. Besides the primary evidence, don’t you think it odd that he was so desperate to flee that he shot dead a cop who stopped him? Why did he fight so hard in the Texas Theater, trying to kill another cop? Where are the curtain rods?

            Even his brother thinks he did it and was playing games with the cops and media because he enjoyed it.

            All you need

          • BH

            Okay. Let me respond.
            You and I are not playing a game so there is no ‘winner.’
            I respect and admire your experiences and research.
            More people should take interest in this case.
            I too have read numerous ‘ conspiracy’ books that were indeed nonsense.
            I also read all 26 volumes of the WC Report. It belongs alongside Huckleberry Finn, Gulliver’s Travels and Little Women in the fiction section of any public private library.
            I wasn’t aware that Oliver Stone wrote any JFK assassination book. What was its title?
            As for his film. He indeed to historical license and offered up quite a buffet of conspiracy possibilities.
            But what makes his cinematic offering any less plausible then the WCR?
            You are aware that in 1978, despite their sloppy work, the House Select Committee on Assassinations claimed that the WCR was woefully amiss and attributed to JFK’s murder to a probable conspiracy.’
            As for Stone himself, the outrage it produced upon release forced the creation of the JFK’s Record Act and the creation of the AARB.
            I never claimed that LHO’s palm prints were all over boxes on the 6th floor. I said that only one print was obtained on one box and that was some identifiable fingerprints.
            Again, numerous other unidentifiable prints were obtained on these same boxes and the WC wasn’t interested in identifying them. LHO having fingerprints on a box that was in his work place is no more significant or incriminating as finding your prints or mine in our home bathroom, bedroom or kitchen.
            What about the curtain rods?
            Both Buell Frazier and his sister rejected the so-called package the FBI re-created in a vain attempt to show that LHO carried the disassembled Mannlicher-Carcano into the TBD that morning after getting his ride with Frazier from Irving all on the strength that the package was too short in length to accommodate the rifle.
            Better yet, where was the wrapping paper he used? They found some near the alleged ‘snipers’ nest but it isn’t in any photographs, and had no traces of oil inside it or showed any creases indicating a rifle had been inside it.
            Desperate to flee?
            If you just killed the POTUS would you not have had an escape route thought out that didn’t include casually leaving your work place after a refreshing Coke and an encounter with the police ( Baker ), assisting a newsman to a telephone, boarding a bus for 2 blocks, securing a Taxi ( after first offering it to a lady), going to your rooming house, changing clothes ( and yes – arming yourself ), waiting for a bus, and then taking in a movie?
            Does that sound desperate to you?
            Placing LHO on the scene of the Tippett murder is also extremely problematic.
            Most glaring is the time issue requiring LHO leaving his rooming house at 1:04PM and arriving at the scene of Tippett’s killing in time. There is also witness identification problems and the finding of the so-called discarded jacket and mixed ammunition shells.
            What his brother thinks isn’t anymore valuable then what his wife Marina now thinks. She admittedly was a terrible witness who vacillated in testimony from November ’63-August ’64. Of course she was in the hands of the Secret Service and FBI and under daily fear of deportation.
            I enjoy robust discussions about the case Steve.
            You have your beliefs and I have mine.
            That is the beauty of a free society.

  • Slobinski S

    What a waste of one’s life. Oswald shot Kennedy. Elvis is really dead. There is no Loch Ness Monster.