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Cruz in the Crosshairs

Tonight’s Republican debate has high stakes for the Texas senator.

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The Republicans running for their party’s presidential nomination will meet tonight in Las Vegas for the final debate of the year. Since the last time the candidates met, Ted Cruz has emerged as a plausible contender for the party’s nomination. He’s not yet the frontrunner—that’s still Donald Trump—but national polls show him in second place, on an upward trajectory, and on particularly solid footing in Iowa.

As a result, Texas’s junior senator can expect to take heavy fire tonight. Trump has become increasingly agitated over Cruz’s growing strength, and is expected to go on the attack against him. Some of the other Republicans running will do the same; they may have been counting on Trump’s eventual self-immolation, but Cruz has shown no such tendencies and is therefore a real threat to everyone else on stage.

All of which means that I expect this to be a big night for the Cruz campaign. Politics aside, Cruz is a highly self-disciplined and even-tempered debate champion who has never lost his head in public. I’m hard-pressed to think of a situation he’s more optimized to handle. This video, I think, will prove to be a pretty good preview of the debate. Cruz is the one in the Tanuki suit. If you’re watching along tonight, feel free to discuss in the comments.

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  • In Ted’s wheelhouse, he should be fine.

    • WUSRPH

      A year ago you were, shall we say, not that excited by Mr. Cruz….It was said that it had something to do with a desired photograph, but I don’t know the circumstances beyond seeing you express some disdain for him. (I could go back to your preserved comments and dig some out but why bother.) But these days you are high on him. Seems you have jumped on the bandwagon.

      • Two years ago I was not impressed with Sen Cruz’s inexperience staff, told he couldn’t get elected president and refused to take a pic with him.
        In the last couple of years he has added some quality staff and has mapped out a good strategy.
        I like what I’m seeing now, a more experienced seasoned staff and a sound strategy.

        • Indiana Pearl

          “Refused to take a pic with him”? Hahaha!

          Let’s see the photo.

          • What part of refused did you miss? Apparently all of it.

          • Unwound

            Nice change on the narrative there pal

          • Hay the loser is back

          • Unwound

            youre the one backing cruz.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Lots of Pinnocchios today . . .

        • 6660splendidday

          Can you maybe vote for THE STAFF?

  • Indiana Pearl

    Why do the GOP candidates fail to discuss the terrorist who murdered innocents in Colorado Springs?

    • WUSRPH

      Because he was “an isolated individual” and not a member of an international ring of really bad guys. P.S. bcuz attacking foreigners and blaming them for all bad things gets more votes.

      • WUSRPH

        If they are talking about the need for American Muslims to be more active in condemning ISIS—as JJ is always advocating—this story might be of interest. Seems a bunch of Muslims in Michigan DID have an anti-ISIS march….only to have the crazy rights attack it as being a PRO-ISIS march. Bigots will be bigots no matter what the facts.

        http://nymag.com/following/2015/12/dearborn-muslims-protested-isis-and-then.html

      • Indiana Pearl

        I believe those who want to suppress women’s rights are an organized cabal.

        • WUSRPH

          I supposed you read “Backlash” a few years back.

          • Indiana Pearl

            No, but I saw Faludi and Molly Ivins on PBS years ago discussing Faludi’s book, “Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.”

          • wessexmom

            And what specifically does “Backlash, The Undeclared War Against American Women”
            (which was written in 1991) have to do with Islamic fundamentalism’s oppression of women? Many women living under the harshest restrictions of Sharia Law in countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia can only dream of living in the “modern” world and dealing with the very real problems faced by “modern” women presented by Faludi in her book. PLEASE do not equate the two or give Islamic fundamentalism a pass in the name of multiculturalism.

            For those who want a more current and specific discussion of Muslim oppression of women, look to Aayan Hirsi Ali and her writing and lectures over the last 5 years. Here’s a good place to start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTCMwdrpt4

          • WUSRPH

            She was talking about the suppression of women in the US. Backlash reported on that. It has nothing to do with Muslim suppression of women which is clearly much more odious than anything happening here. I have a good friend who has spent years working in Arabic countries (and Afghanistan) for “gender equity” so I have some idea of the conditions in some of those areas. There has been some change–such as women voting in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and improved education–but there is very long way to go toward any for of equitable treatment of the sexes.

        • Hahaha….goofy

          • Indiana Pearl

            Another whacky comment from the Twinkie King . . .

  • WUSRPH

    An interesting piece on what kinds of people support the top 5 GOP contenders from the Washington Post.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/15/who-really-supports-donald-trump-ted-cruz-ben-carson-marco-rubio-and-jeb-bush-in-5-charts/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_fix-supporters%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

    Trump’s biggest backers are “less educated” men. Cruz scores best with Evangelicals, Women and folks over 50.
    It makes interesting reading and thinking about.

    • Those are easily explained, I don’t usually do polls because they usually have an agenda. But if I do I mislead them as much as possible.
      The “media” doesn’t “report” they have an agenda to help elect Hillary. Why help them?
      BTW what type of person supports Hillary? Simple, “the low information voter.”

      • dave in texas

        But if I do I mislead them as much as possible.

        So, you’re a jerk and a troll across all platforms and in all situations. Figures.

  • Nothing new said or learned last night. No changes in the status quo. What was the point of last night?

    • The point last night was to discuss issues, how did you miss it?

      • Again, of the issues that were debated, nothing new or different was said. So if they are going to debate the same issues, give the same responses, and give the same candidates the majority of the time, what was the point?

        The point of a political debate is to intelligently argue the pros and cons of an issue to help voters determine whether or not a candidate is worthy of his or her vote. None of that has happened in any of the debates. There is no differentiating between the candidates, no intelligence showing through, no depth of thought, nothing different from the first debate. So what was the point of the debate other than as a free political ad for the front runners?

        • Indiana Pearl

          Bingo! All were prattling RNC talking points.

        • Oh you were watching a rerun of the dem debate…

  • donuthin2

    Though not a fan of Rubio, I thought he penetrated the veneer of Cruz and probably won their head to head encounter. Trump showed more than ever that he has not substance but was probably intent on doing no damage to himself because he has a commanding lead. Bush was his best and I think is the most presidential of all the candidates and won his head to head with Trump. Christi was the next presidential and scored some points. Cruz was rude and talked over the moderator to his detriment I think. He has a veneer that is typical of a good college debater, and is disciplined in his remarks but Rubio clearly got to him. I hope the house of cards begins to crumble and there is a realignment of the leaders to someone who is a more rational than any of the front runners. But public opinion is not so rational as it is more of a function of the extreme media’s fear mongering.

    • Jed

      funny, i thought cruz was bothering rubio. i will say this: i thought everyone was coherent (albeit wrong), which was better than in previous debates. so i guess i would say that part was new.

  • Rules of Blazon

    Trump won by not losing. Everybody else lost by not winning.

  • Rules of Blazon
    • Indiana Pearl

      What goes around comes around.

  • Did Cruz release classified info:
    “Asked to respond to Burr’s comments, a Cruz campaign spokeswoman, Catherine Frazier, passed along news reports from the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal from 2014 that contained the 20 percent to 30 percent figures Cruz used, along with congressional testimony from an NSA official suggesting the USA Freedom Act could expand the universe of calls available to the agency to search. The material, Frazier noted, is “all publicly available.”

    Did Hillary? Yes.

    Who will the low information vote for? Hillary

  • Indiana Pearl

    “This slipperiness has become part of his political method, and it is a character issue as much as a substantive one.”

    —WSJ editorial

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/12/16/ted-cruzs-vision-turns-ugly/?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_popns

    • Rules of Blazon

      Wow. When you’ve lost Jen Rubin…

    • You should try to learn the difference between WAPO and WSJ

      • WUSRPH

        If you bothered to read something before attacking, you would have found that the WSJ’s less than friendly comments about Cruz were at the bottom of the article.

        • Indiana Pearl

          He never apologizes when he screws up.

          • I went months without commenting on your goofy posts and one day I made a mistake and commented, you mistakenly thought I had a crush on you. Yes I did make a mistake.

          • Indiana Pearl

            You are revolting.

          • You are not my friend

          • Indiana Pearl

            I don’t hate you, despite your protestations that I do. However, if you want respect, if you want others to listen to what you say, you must change your approach.

        • Read ’em, its an opinion piece with supposition not facts.
          Cruz knocked it out of the park last night, maybe hard for some here to come to grips with.

          • WUSRPH

            We will see what the polls show in a few days.

          • Polls mean nothing in politics and football games. What counts is voting day, and game day.
            Manufactured polls do tell some dems what to think.

          • WUSRPH

            Polls, good ones, bad ones or “manufactured”, all can have an effect on an election. They can make those, like you who want to be with the winner, dump your first choice and run after Cruz, for example.

          • I agree some will believe anything they are told.
            How does a comedian a leftist darling like Colbert not make the big time? Care to explain?

          • Indiana Pearl

            This question has no meaning.

          • dave in texas

            It’s hard to get much more big time than replacing David Letterman as host of The Late Show. Care to explain how you can be so clueless about so many different things?

          • Unwound

            yeah especially when theyre a month old showing perry ahead.

      • Indiana Pearl

        I know the difference because I read the article by Jennifer Rubin of WaPo who quoted an editorial from the WSJ.

        Working on a head wound as usual . . . Did you fall off your golf cart?

        • Why do I have to explain everything to dome.
          You took a quote out of context, one sentence of a whole paragraph. At least Janie or whatever her name is used the whole paragraph. But as usual you missed my point. WAPO isn’t the WSJ. They mainly pander to DC. DC isn’t mainstream America.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Who is “dome”?

          • Indiana Pearl

            She didn’t take one sentence. She took a whole paragraph.

            Jennifer (not Janie) is as right-wing as can be.

            Put an ice pack on your head.

          • you took one sentence out of context. I’ve noticed after drinkthirty you mental acuity declines.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I’ve noticed that you talk about drinking when you get backed into an intellectual corner every day. Loser!

          • you’re tiresome and need attn, get a dog.

          • Indiana Pearl

            No dogs. I already have two neurotic cats, a charming grand daughter, a wonderful son and DIL, and a witty and intelligent spouse.

            You have a box of Twinkies.

  • John Johnson

    All posters here, save one, just can’t make themselves listen to the actual people doing the evaluating of the GOP candidates. By “actual people” I do not mean the talking heads on cable TV, or Judith, the so-called conservative columnist for the WSJ. They don’t have a clue how actual Repub voters feel. They have no attachment to us, anymore than Al Gore does to tobacco farmers. They only think they do. They have lived with, socialized with, and schooled their children with each other. They are in their own little ecosystem, yet miserably attempt at every turn to explain to us why we think like we do. Judith what’s-her-name, sitting up there in NYC or DC is entitled to her opinions, but should never project what motivates me and my old parents to reject more of the same out of Congress or the sound of lame declarations and promises rolling off the tongues of another bunch of egotistical, professional bullshitters. The guys talking different and poo-poo’ing the old way of doing things are going to get all sorts of consideration. This could change between now and the summer of 2016, but unless some of the “conventional” candidates change their tunes, don’t bet on it.

    • Indiana Pearl

      Jennifer, not Judith. The take-home message from her article is the editorial quote from the WSJ. Pleasepleaseplease don’t call it “slanted.”

      • WUSRPH

        He has fallen for an “image”….with no substance accept megalomania. But they know how to talk to angry people like him who have little faith in the system And he is listening.

        • John Johnson

          And you are the guy who has lived in the middle of it all his life. Lived right there, smack dab in the middle. What do you know about people in the real world. You know history and you know government. Little else.

          • WUSRPH

            Because I have “lived in the middle of it” I know how the system can be manipulated to create images that you will find attractive. Obama did it (to a much lesser degree) in 2008 because he had carefully studied what the public wanted to hear and delivered it. (As you may remember, I did not support him in 2008). But Trump and Cruz are carrying it to new extremes….Haven’t you read any of the stuff about how scientifically Cruz is running his campaign…..and how his workers have figured out just what you want…and are giving it to you. HIs effort is far more sophisticated than Obama’s whom you hate so much for you claim because he has not delivered on all those images from 2008. Didn’t you learn anything from that experience?
            Apparently not. In your case, it is not fool me once, it is fool me every time.

          • John Johnson

            Well, look what Obama did to you gullible souls. I like what Cruz is saying and doing. Some questions remain. We’ll see what happens and if the old school group catches on and changes their tunes.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I will gladly take “what Obama did” over “I’m the decider and I decide” anytime.

          • WUSRPH

            Me, too. Or over Mitt either.

          • I can’t imagine why the 47%ers like Obama…..

            “Enrollment in the food stamp program — officially the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — has soared by 70 percent in the years since President Obama first took office, a new report finds.”

            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/28/food-stamp-president-enrollment-70-percent-under-o/

          • WUSRPH

            A two year old news story written on the tail of the largest economic downturn since the Great Depression. And we are supposed to be impressed?

          • It proves JJ’s point, some are willing to believe a candidate like Obama because they choose to. Judith or whatever her name is, assumes as dems always do that all the voters are alike they vote for the candidate that will promote their agenda beliefs ideals.
            Dems have specific agenda to take the country towards socialism as rapidly as possible, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. Most like the people like us are happy with our lives and would prefer a less intrusive government and do not need a self serving politician like Obama telling us we’re doing it backwards. When in reality he is the one out of step.

          • Indiana Pearl

            He is obsessed with the old “47%” meme.

          • WUSRPH

            What he is doing and saying has been carefully analyzed, measured and scripted……They know how to make you like them…and you have. You are just afraid to realize how far the science of manipulating others has progressed and refuse to accept that YOU could be manipulated. Others, may be…But no YOU.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cruz-campaign-credits-psychological-data-and-analytics-for-its-rising-success/2015/12/13/4cb0baf8-9dc5-11e5-bce4-708fe33e3288_story.html

          • Unwound

            i guess youre a big stickland fan too.

          • John Johnson

            No, sir, I’m not…nor a big Burton fan. They both know it, too. If Cruz farts, they are the first to know it, and talking points, before they make it off his tongue, are already being repeated by these two.

          • Jed

            “What do you know about people in the real world. You know history and you know government. Little else.”

            this is world-class irony here.

            what do you think those subjects are about?

          • John Johnson

            The way people used to think and what a group in power wants us to think..in that order.

          • Jed

            once again i think you should ask whatever school gave you a diploma for your money back.

          • John Johnson

            We’ll I would have dropped out if I had encountered one of you.

          • Jed

            we’ll, couldn’t have hurt.

          • John Johnson

            That would be the whole reason for dropping your class…it wouldn’t hurt. I might not be where I am today, because I might have followed in your footsteps. I’ll take where I am now. You just don’t seem very fulfilled or happy.

          • Jed

            we’ll, youll never know now. literally.

          • Unwound

            “You just don’t seem very fulfilled or happy.”

            lol look whos talking, the rageaholic constantly yelling online

          • Indiana Pearl

            No, you wouldn’t! You know that getting a baccalaureate degree advanced your life’s goal. Having a hissy fit because you disagreed with a professor would shoot yourself in the foot.

          • Jed

            i had a student or two unhappy with me every semester, sometimes because of their perception of my political bias, other times because they didn’t like getting a C. or a B+.

            i think the only ones who literally dropped out because of me, though, were a few of the ones i busted for plagiarism.

          • John Johnson

            I never got one. I went for four years. Still need around 17 hrs, I think, to graduate. Never found it interesting or fulfilling. Expensive, too. I could make grades just taking tests, but they expected me to show up for their boring lectures, too. I grew to hate it. I was offered a good job and took it. Never looked back. Wouldn’t take for the relationships that were developed during those years. Still maintain many of them.

          • Indiana Pearl

            If you hadn’t gone to college, I suspect you wouldn’t have gotten a good job offer.

          • WUSRPH

            Sorry that you missed so many opportunities hear something other than what you believed before you began. It is called “learning” and “opening the mind”…..which is what education is all about.

          • John Johnson

            You still don’t get it. I could read the book and pass the tests. 80% of the tenured professors were horrible teachers. My English professors were exceptions, as were a few others in social sciences. It was a waste for me, like so many others. I had the smarts, didn’t know what I wanted to do, and the books educated me much more so than those who had never been there, seen it or done it. Getting into the real world was, personally, much better for me.

          • WUSRPH

            As you would have learned had you gone to more lectures—and had more exchanges with professors and other students—what is in the text books is only the very beginning of the knowledge to be gained. Passing the tests is only a part of the opportunity to become an educated person……regurgitating data is not the same as understanding it and being able to reach beyond it….but it is too long ago now to worry about. You had your chance….too many others have not.

          • John Johnson

            Gosh, I wish I had of stuck it out and not rebelled; I might have grown up to be just like you, or Jed…not that there is anything wrong with you…just that the world would be a screwed up place if all were like you…or me. Those boring, expensive, overrated classrooms aren’t for everyone, and being a trained, obedient monkey with a diploma on the wall is overrated in many instances and courses of study. IMHO.

          • WUSRPH

            Those “boring, expensive, overrated classrooms” certainly are not for everyone. Your experience proved that…..as to “a trained, obedient monkey with a diploma on the wall”…..The only ones I have met are the people who approached education as if it was only for a credential. We could have a lot more of those with the Perry-Hall approach to higher education is adopted. Sorry it was not for you.

          • Jed

            you already did all the work and paid all the money and outsmarted all the teachers, but failed the practical intelligence test (can you … get a degree?). i doubt those last 17 hours would have changed much for you in terms of your world view, though voluntarily foregoing a college degree that you had essentially earned probably made things harder on yourself, for no apparent reason.

          • John Johnson

            Nothing I have pursued required a degree, but I encouraged both my kids to get one and paid their way to private universities. They use theirs.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Everyone is a rat running in someone else’s wheel.

          • Indiana Pearl

            And then you were drafted?

          • John Johnson

            I was in the Naval Reserves while in college. Was working towards going to officer’s candidate school. Had been to bootcamp and on training cruise. The Navy had a cutback in ’70. My lottery number was 307. Said we could process out under that number and go back into lottery pool, which I did with no fear of being drafted. Went to college one additional semester and moved on to selling medical supplies and safety equipment to industrial accounts in, around Houston.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I dropped out of college after 3.5 years as a political science major, but got my Mrs. as most women were urged to do. Hit the jackpot with Mr. P. Eventually was “blinded by science” and realized college drop outs only get jobs washing glassware in a lab.

            We both back to school as he was bored with the corporate world and I needed a degree. Different strokes for different folks, JJ.

          • John Johnson

            Agree. I have never washed dishes except at home since I left college.

          • Jed

            me too. i never went to class, either, learned from the community. still have many of those friends, almost 30 years later.

            but after paying tuition for 4 years, i went ahead a grabbed the degree on the way out the door. seems stupid not to.

          • John Johnson

            Different strokes…

            What have you done with it?

          • Jed

            10 years in a corporate job i could never had sniffed without a bachelors.
            got a phd (for which you can probably imagine they expect you to get a bachelor’s first).
            a lifetime of more rigorous critical thought processes, better reading skills, better writing.
            a lifetime of relationships.
            many interests i have since pursued at greater length.
            a better understanding of myself and the world around me.
            admittance to a teaching certification program.
            one less chip on my shoulder.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I believe the process is the same as it has always been, only now the techniques are more sophisticated. Every politician who has the money is analyzing your FB page, your credit card purchases, where you go on vacation, what kind of toilet paper you use. They hire someone to tell them how you will vote based on how they make the pitch.

          • John Johnson

            Great. That sounds good…unless once elected, they turn into an Obama.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Why does that sound “good”? I hate being spied upon.

          • WUSRPH

            Or a “Little Bohemian Corporal”.

          • John Johnson

            Yeah, in my head I can see Cruz, under the banner of Christianity, lining up infidels along a ditch. Is that what you are suggesting might happen if he is elected? I guess naysayers like you have always been around, too. Hillary already has a tainted historical background to study. With her we don’t have to speculate on what we will see; we know…more of the same.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I can see Cruz taking women’s birth control pills away from them, shoving a bible in their hands, and letting them turn into brood sows with a bunch of nursing little piglets.

      • John Johnson

        It is not slanted. It is simply wrong.

        • Indiana Pearl

          You are entitled to your opinion. So are Jennifer and the WSJ. Who can say what is wrong and what is right? All opinions have the same weight.

          • John Johnson

            Horseshit…not if some columnists sitting behind some desk in NYC is telling me how and what I am thinking…what is motivating me. She, and those like, her don’t have a clue.

          • WUSRPH
          • Indiana Pearl

            I thought you read WaPo regularly. Many commenters have a low opinion of Ms. Rubin as she is a Zionist.

            As Patrick Leahy said, “you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.”

            Perhaps you would find a support group at americanrenaissance.com. Most posters there share your views. When you come to TM, you just get upset.

          • WUSRPH

            “All opinions have the same weight”….Actually that is not true. An “informed opinion” based on experience and evidence is entitled to more “weight” than an off-the-cuff this is the way I see it” anecdotal opinion. Only a total relativist says everything is worth the same as everything else.

          • Indiana Pearl

            To an individual, each individual’s opinion has the same weight. That’s why we have elections. Does William Kristol’s vote have more weight than Joe Sixpack’s vote?

          • WUSRPH

            In theory: One man…one vote….each is equal…but Kristol’s opinion will affect the way a lot more people vote that Joe’s will. But in reality, it often depends on the election and how carefully the various election districts are drawn. Skillful gerrymandering can make my one vote count much more than or less than yours. A perfect example is how the combined vote for all Democratic candidates for Congress so exceeded that of the GOP candidates but the GOP won more seats.

          • John Johnson

            That is the way it has been for years. “Special” people, “knowledgable people, political “celebrities”, and the like held special powers over all us dumbshits. Those powers of persuasion seem to have waned, and all these high falutin folks don’t seem to like it much.

          • WUSRPH
          • John Johnson

            Hahaha. What a person likes and wants to hear is always a good starting point. You think this is the first time psychological studies have been contracted by political parties or candidates? Think some study led Cruz to call McConnell a liar? I’d love to see Romney back. Maybe he will be, and with a little bit bolder message. We’ll see.

          • WUSRPH

            You are perfectly correct that studies have been used (and are being used) in most modern campaign. In fact, I have watched with interest as they art has developed over my years hanging around “the business”. No study told Cruz to use those exact words….but several probably told him that attacking the leadership would win him brownie points with the voting groups he was trying to attract. The “science” is not perfected YET as demonstrated by the Romney campaign in 2012. They are just getting better and better at it with each election.

          • Indiana Pearl

            You can take it to the bank that Cruz’s “liar” comment to McConnell was carefully calculated.

          • WUSRPH

            Read the Lindberg quote in the Washington Post column, cited above. Then go read some Huey Long speeches or some by that “little Bohemian Corporal” or Anthony’s funeral oration for J. Caesar in the Shakespeare play. It has always been that way.

          • That is a very old and oft used political trope. It gets used because it works even when it may not be true.

          • Indiana Pearl

            But aren’t those opinions manipulated by unscrupulous individuals? Advertisers do the same thing.

          • WUSRPH

            Of course, opinions are manipulated—in politics, business, religion and virtually anything else you can think of. How else do you get someone to vote for you candidate or buy your product? You “sell” it to them by carefully constructing an image of a candidate or a cookie or whatever you are trying to get them to purchase with their vote or their dollar.
            The problem is that the science of how to do this is getting better and better. As to “unscrupulous”, I guess that depends on whether you like the message or not.

    • WUSRPH

      Next time you are talking to The Donald and Ted you should ask them to explain the details of what they are going to do as President that will change all the evil things you see happening. Ask them to be specific. What different approach to The Congress will they take? What will they do if the evil Congress continues in its evil ways? Will they use “Executive Orders” to accomplish their goals? So far it has been a lot of talk about “we are different’ but little or nothing on how they will accomplish their goals.

      • John Johnson

        We have miles to go before we sleep. Pace yourself and your comments. You will look more intelligent this time next year.

        • WUSRPH

          Serious questions that need to be answered.

          • John Johnson

            Like what? Cruz has a fairly comprehensive outline of his plans on his website. The Heritage Foundation listed a basic comparison of all the GOP candidates. To expect anything but lip from you liberals for any Repub candidate, much less Trump or Cruz, is ridiculous. Hillary is your horse if she never wins another race. In your eyes, she would appear to have no flaws. To me, she is sharp fingernails on a chalkboard. She is the epitome of a slimy politician.

          • WUSRPH

            Hillary has plenty of flaws….every human being (with the declared by the Church exception of the Virgin Mary) has many…..I recognize hers…..I also recognize that what she proposes is better for this country than The Donald’s or Ted’s forms of megalomania.

  • There is a huge difference between watching a dem debate(if you can find one) and a republican debate. In a dem debate the candidates and the moderators meet prior and the candidates are given the questions and coached how to answer them.
    WSJ says this about the recent republican debate
    “With some six weeks left before the first voting in Iowa, the debate was useful in revealing GOP differences on policy, knowledge and above all political character.”
    Huge difference, proving the low information voter may be a choice.

  • Can Cruz beat Trump and give us a victory over Hillary? Or will dems get their hand picked match between Trump and Hillary giving Hillary the WH?
    The race starts in Jan.

  • Indiana Pearl
  • Bush tried to warn us…..

    “President Bush used a speech to the Israeli Parliament on Thursday to liken those who would negotiate with “terrorists and radicals” to appeasers of the Nazis — a remark widely interpreted as a rebuke to Senator Barack Obama, who has advocated greater engagement with countries like Iran and Syria.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us/politics/16obama.html

    even Hillary tried to warn us….

    • Indiana Pearl

      “2008”?

      Geez.

      • The chickens have come home to roost

        • Indiana Pearl

          It’s taking them a long time.

          • nah…just takes the media a little longer to admit what everyone knows….

          • WUSRPH

            You mean the stuff that everyone knows about more than 60 straight months of growth in the economy and the lowest unemployment rate in many years. Stuff like that?

          • You’re serious….?

          • WUSRPH

            Or about how millions of more Americans now have protection (health insurance) to cover their medical costs and make unpaid medical bills no loner the No. ONE reason for bankruptcies. Stuff like that?

          • John Johnson

            You’re serious, aren’t you? You actually believe this “we are better off” horseshit. Our housekeeper cannot afford the pacemaker she needs and the massive monthly premium and humongous deductible her working family are required to pay are a nonstarter. Then there’s the Bangledeshi father here on a religious descrimination visa who works his tail off but can’t afford the premiums on what he makes that sat down at my table yesterday to ask about what he should do…and let’s not forget the woman who helps take care of my grandchildren, whose young Afghanistan serving vet son is going to pay the fine rather than pay out an outrageous, high deductible premium.

          • yes they do…..smh

          • Indiana Pearl

            Perry and Abbott refused the Medicaid expansion, so the poorest of the poor in Texas – American citizens whose incomes are below 100% of the federal poverty line – are screwed pooch.

            Tell these good people to vote Democratic next time.

          • John Johnson

            The people I have mentioned are not poor.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I have several middle-class friends who have obtained great savings from O-Care.

            How do you define “poor”?

          • Indiana Pearl

            There is an organization here in Austin that advises people about Obamacare sign-up and assistance. There might be one in your area. These poor people need unbiased advice.

          • Jed

            i am in this group for the second year in a row. i make too little to be eligible for a subsidy.

            obviously the fix is for congress to remove the minimum income for eligibility in states where medicaid is not offered. instead, i have to sit here and wait for medicaid to reject me, then go pay full price on the exchange for coverage that won’t start on time.

          • Indiana Pearl

            This is called the “Medicaid glitch.” When the ACA was created, no one thought that GOP governors would be crazy/stupid enough to turn down the Medicaid expansion just to spite Obama – but they were.

            The irony is that foreigners who are 100% below the FPL can get Medicaid, but American citizens cannot.

            “You can’t make this stuff up.” —- Dave Barry

          • Jed

            yup. didn’t see this when i just wrote my other one.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Did you apply for a Silver Plan?

          • Jed

            i tried, but i am not eligible because i am (they think) eligible for medicaid. when that gets rejected in a couple weeks, i can go back and apply for a plan (effective february, maybe), but not with subsidies. i kid you not, i make too little ($0) to be eligible for the subsidies.

            went through all this last year. basically, bad faith by texas government meets bad faith by the current congress (this wasn’t a problem when obamacare was first passed, only when SCOTUS said states can not be required to extend medicaid, and by then, the house was under republican control. my congressman – lamar smith – tells me he would rather repeal obamacare than fix it.) i am in a vortex of bad faith.

          • Indiana Pearl

            You have to be in an iron lung to get Medicaid in Texas . . . Is it the Marketplace website that’s giving you this info?

          • Jed

            yes, what i said before. (a) marketplace tells me i am eligible for medicaid, and that i have to wait for texas. (b) sometime right around christmas if memory serves, texas will tell me i am not eligible, (c) at which point-and not before-i can return to the marketplace and buy, just without subsidies.

            it costs me almost four times as much without the subsidy. it’s a joke (before this gets taken out of context, i am in favor of obamacare – the particular problem i am describing has been entirely created by republicans: on the supreme court, in the u.s. house, and in texas).

          • Indiana Pearl

            You’re doing this all on-line? No real face-to-face? Is there a place in your area where you can talk to a real person?

            The Marketplace internet interface is a hot mess. Worst program I’ve ever encountered, even after several years of fixes. You’re an educated person, so you can imagine how difficult it is for folks who don’t even have an e-mail account.

            Medicare A and B is so simple to use, although I must say I was overwhelmed with all the Medicare Part D options at first.

            Good luck!

          • Indiana Pearl

            JJ, here’s a link to the non-profit here in Austin that helps folks find the right ACA program that fits their circumstances. There may be a similar program in your area:

            http://foundcom.org/

          • John Johnson

            Thanks. Will pass it on.

          • Indiana Pearl

            And gas at about $1.80/gal . . .

          • Indiana Pearl

            Don’t forget that the DOW was about 5.5 when Bush left office. Now it’s about 15. And unemployment? About 8.5% when Bush left office. Now it’s closer to 5%. Oh those pesky facts make life so complicated for propagandists!

    • WUSRPH

      Or perhaps he was referring to his Daddy and RR in Irangate? Forgot that one I see. Arranged to sell anti-aircraft missiles, etc. to Iran during its war with Iraq in exchange for hostage releases…….And it was RR who first said he would never negotiate with terrorists and then did just that. Daddy Bush later pardoned the perpetrators just before the trials would start.

      • refresh my memory was this when ambassador Stevens died?

        • Indiana Pearl

          After Kobar Towers was blown up . . .

          • Bill Ayers’ group?

          • Indiana Pearl

            Ronnie Reagan’s group . . .

          • President Reagan was a terrorist? Bill Ayers was.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Reagan was the commander-in-chief.

          • Beerman

            The election of Cruz would create a “theocratic state”….
            The election of Trump would create a “fascist state”….
            What’s happen to the GOP? Ronald Reagan must be spinning in his grave!

          • Indiana Pearl

            Many believe that RR started the ball rolling towards theocracy and voodoo economics. What we observe today is the logical outcome of his policies. He was just a more charming agent.

          • WUSRPH

            Is she talking about the time RR “cut and ran” after the terrorists blew up the US Marines barracks in Beirut and killed over 100 US Marines and others? Nah, that couldn’t have happened or the Troll would have explained it away by now.

        • WUSRPH

          I don’t think so but it might have been when one of the other 4 US Ambassadors who have been assassinated. That would include Amb. Dubs to Afghanistan (1979-Pres. Carter), Amb. Meloy to Lebanon (1976-Pre. Ford), Amb. Noel to Sudan (Pres. Nixon) or Amb. Moire (1968 -Guatemala–Pres. Johnson)….

          It seems it is a dangerous job and we loose one every few years. But you would not know about the facts…They never bother you.

  • Jed

    you’re happy because you’re fortunate.

    you go, christian value man.

    • John Johnson

      I have seen the joy on faces of children crawling on top of garbage dumps in Honduras, and people in Philippine villages with little or nothing except food and a shanty to sleep in. Friends coming back from places in Africa tell similar stories. If anyone is sad and angry here in the U.S. is because we choose to be.

      • Indiana Pearl

        How did you see “joy”?

        • John Johnson

          I have shared this several times her over the years. I used to fly into Teguicgalpa Honduras quite often. The old WWII commercial pilots will tell your that it was one of their favorite places to fly into…a sweeping u-shaped valley that they got to actually fly through with the autopilot disengaged. The flare out at the edge of the approach runway and engagement of the land gears slowed the plane considerably. At that point, if you glanced down, you realized you were only feet above the local garbage dump. On top of the mounds were upturned heads of smiling children waving while stumbling over the stinky piles of rot. We were low enough to see the ones who had lost baby teeth. I lifted my head to see the shanties built from the gathered trash that they lived in. It prompted me to write a letter to my parents about how fortunate I was…about how I thought about being the living result of a sperm cell and ovum union on the perimeter of a garbage dump in Honduras, Bangledesh, India, Nigeria, the Sudan, or untold other places in the world. I still reflect back on this. I cry for them…but…like the analogy I have used before…you can only take so many into a lifeboat. At some point, as Captain, you say “no more” to prolong life. Tough decisions not made lightly, but necessary. My parents, and others still living from the WWII era understand this…a growing number of our generation do not. Over and out.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I’m not feeling the “joy.” How did you?

          • John Johnson

            I could see it in their waves and big smiles.

  • 6660splendidday

    Some people look at Ted Cruz and see great physical strength and
    charm..even a sexy man in a sleazy sort of way, . I look and see a
    twerp, a misfit who is a religious fanatic out to con everyone in his
    sight …. with a dismal myopic view of what this country is all
    about. Ted Cruz and his Daddy are old time crooks, here today and
    hopefully gone tomorrow, however, think about the people who are
    cheering him on and will actually vote for him.. they are a serious
    problem that will not go away quietly. Ignorant beyond repair.. they
    will strike again.

    • Beerman

      Cruz and his Daddy are scammers much like a long tradition of Cult leaders, televangelist, and other snake-oil salesmen using the right-wing evangelical ideology as a cash cow.

      • WUSRPH

        We already know that Cruz spent over $120,000 of his campaign contributions to buy copies of his book (both to inflate the sales figures and for the campaign to resell, with his autograph, for several times the normal sales price). I wonder how many copies the Cruz campaign will buy of Daddy Cruz’s new spellbinding tome when it is published in a few months?

        • Beerman

          With the Cruz Crew it is do it my way or else. They have very few original thoughts.

  • Liberals love to quote the WAPO as gospel….

    “So much for neutral journalism. Ishaan Tharoor, Foreign affairs reporter for The Washington Post, went on a tirade on Twitter Tuesday evening, bashing the GOP debate in multiple tweets, but perhaps his worst statement was calling the undercard debate “a bunch of old white men yelling at each other.” – http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/kristine-marsh/2015/12/16/post-reporter-gop-debate-bunch-old-white-men-yelling-each#sthash.BLz9B3LR.dpuf

    And they wonder why they have no credibility.

  • Jed

    well, my point was that it *was* the route you chose to take, you just bailed at the 11.5th hour.

    • John Johnson

      Yep, I did. As an aside, not because of any “Christian” guilt, I want to say that I enjoy the back and forth with you. Wish I could take back some things I have pointedly posted to you, and about you, in the past. I really don’t dislike many people whom I have truly come to know. I feel that I could very easily and comfortably share a beer with you.

  • WUSRPH

    I reported it too…..I was just going to suggest that it is episodes like this one that made the Wall Street Journal say this about Cruz this week:

    “This slipperiness has become part of his political method, and it is a character issue as much as a substantive one.”

    —WSJ editorial

    • One sentence out of an opinion piece, gotta do better.
      I’m calling calf rope.
      Tell me where Hillary stands?
      Believe I know…..

      • WUSRPH

        Why don’t you go to her web site and find out. Many details on her proposals are available. That way you may have some idea of what you are talking about before you distort it.

        • Indiana Pearl

          Too much work for Booksie . . .

          • Beerman

            He just cuts and pastes the daily “liberty” talking points from Mark Campbell, National Political Director, Cruz for President. Don’t waste your time reading them.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I don’t. Thanks for the heads up about Mark Campbell. I figured someone was doing Booksie’s thinking for him.

  • WUSRPH

    Here is a sobering thought. The New Republic says that except for the racist comments and lough mouthing, the foreign policy being called for by the various GOP contenders is THE SAME AS HILLARY CLINTON”s.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/125982/theres-nothing-radical-republicans-foreign-policy?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New%20Campaign&utm_term=TNR%20Daily%20Newsletter

    • No one is this dense…..yawl gotta do better.
      The old democrat trick of trying to lump all candidates together and say lookee here they’re all the same won’t work with Sen Ted Cruz standing tall in the saddle.
      Round ’em up and head ’em out boys it is gonna be a long ride as Charles Goodnight used to say.

      • WUSRPH

        There you go again….Trying to make Cruz much more different than the other candidates when every “balanced” analyst notes that Cruz and Rubio have the same basic position on virtually all the major issues. (Rubio, however, doesn’t go along with advocating going back to the Gold Standard as Cruz did in an effort to make himself more acceptable to Ron and Rand Paul’s “hard money” supporters.)

        • Here’s the difference between Rubio and Cruz, you’ll support Rubio but not Cruz.

          • WUSRPH

            Nope…I won’t support either of them…..

          • Why not he’s just like you?

          • WUSRPH

            ‘fraid not. We disagree on virtually every subject except
            the fact that he and I agree that you cannot rip 12 million people and their US citizen relatives out of the fabric of this country without making us much, much more like Third Reich Germany than 99.9% of us would like. Seems all the other GOP candidates except Trump agree with us–with the possible exception of your boy Cruz who has take several different positions on the question. I am still waiting for him to pull his ear lobe so we will know which he really means.

    • Jed

      this is why i support o’malley.

  • What if you had to have a presidential debate but the candidates were so bad you didn’t want anyone to watch:

    “Long, long ago, Clinton set out to ensure she wouldn’t be robbed of the nomination by some interloper, the way she lost to Barack Obama in 2008.
    The party’s power-brokers played along, handing the Democratic National Committee to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a co-chair of Clinton’s ’08 campaign. Fix, in.”
    http://nypost.com/2015/12/17/hillary-clintons-dream-debate-is-one-nobody-watches/

    Dems do not even have to vote in their primary their candidate has been picked for them and they think for us. Democrat’s democracy on display.

  • Can you set your biases aside and have an honest discussion? What if our future was at stake? I suspect most here will not be able to but I and a few others can.

    Here’s the deal Lucille….Ted Cruz, Trump, Rubio or Hillary?

    Better decide which camp you’re in get your knives sharpened and clean your guns it is gonna be a fight.

    “Hillary Clinton has no record to run on. Family income is lower and the world is more dangerous. Donald Trump nailed it when he told Chris Wallace, “Hillary calls me ‘dangerous’? She’s killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity.” Trump was referring to the Obama administration’s campaign to overthrow Arab dictators like Libya’s Qaddafi and Egypt’s Mubarak, which contributed to the chaos in the Middle East after the so-called “Arab Spring.” Marco Rubio can’t attack Hillary’s disastrous foreign policy record because–as Ted Cruz observes–Rubio supported all the same stupid policies. Picture a Cruz-Clinton presidential debate: Cruz denounces Hillary’s incompetence in promoting chaos in the Middle East. Hillary remonstrates, “But most Republicans supported me!” Cruz counters: “That’s right–I’m running against you and against the Establishment in my own party.” Game, set, match.”

    https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2015/12/16/ted-cruz-is-right-to-attack-the-neocons

    Pick your side and if you want to discuss an issue I’m in, if you’re here for personal attacks, smears or because you’re full of hate moveon.org.

  • This what I remember Rubio joined the gang of eight and Sen Cruz introduced an amendment that effectively killed the Gang of Eight’s bill.

    “But Cruz, who frequently mentions Sessions as a partner on defeating the 2013 immigration bill, has said the language he wanted inserted was a “poison pill” designed to prove that the Gang of Eight’s main motivation for the bill was amnesty for illegals.

    During an appearance on Howie Carr’s radio show Thursday, Sessions sided with Cruz.”

    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/12/sessions_defends_cruz_on_immig.html

    I’m siding with Sen Sessions, Cruz defeated Rubio and the gang of eight’s amnesty bill.

    • WUSRPH

      Actually, Cruz defeated no one and nothing (as is usual in his Senate career). He made a bunch of noise, but his proposal was defeated and the bill passed with GOP support. It was killed in the House because the leadership there did not want to consider any kind of major immigration reform, not because anything Cruz did or did not do.

      • Actually MeNCruz single handedly defeat Schumer and Rubio’s amnesty bill.

        “Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said Friday that he proposed five amendments that would bar citizenship and other benefits for illegal immigrants as a “poison pill” to kill rival Marco Rubio’s “Gang of Eight” legislation in 2013.”
        http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ted-cruz-poison-bill-amendments-killed/2015/12/18/id/706450/#ixzz3umM8rBoc

        Maybe one day over a cup of coffee I’ll teach you how the legislative process works.

        • Indiana Pearl

          Still no photo of MeNCruz . . .

        • WUSRPH

          All his amendments were DEFEATED. The bill passed the Senate. It died in the House because the House leadership did not want to pass ANY immigration reform. As usual, Cruz made a bunch of noise which affected absolutely nothing……Amendments that are not adopted on a bill that passes without his changes, in not accomplishing anything. As this episode has demonstrated, what Cruz says and what IS are often different.

          • now you’re learning, sometimes shining the light of truth on the rats is enough. In this case it was.

  • The media wants to spin it that way JJ won’t work. I remember Sen Cruz standing up to the gang of eight and introducing an amendment that scuttled their bill.

    This is what I remember:

    “What Carpenter points out is that Cruz didn’t actually propose legalization because it was already in the bill. His amendment merely stripped out the path to citizenship portion that was also part of the bill”
    http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-didnt-propose-legalization-on-the-gang-of-8-bill/#ixzz3ugRT1hkw

    There will be much spin in the coming months. You will have to choose between Trump/Rubio/Cruz. I made mine.

    • John Johnson

      I have a problem with anyone wanting to round up every illegal and send them packing. I personally watched what happened in Alabama when they passed their stout immigrant laws. Lots of vacant homes and apts. Lots of menial jobs vacant, tomatoes rotting in fields and tears as youngsters were pulled from classes. We all but asked them to come for decades. Had I been one of them with a family and no work, I would have crossed the river. Send the gang members and law breakers back and only offer those remaining a work permit. Anything involving the physical removal of 12M+ is just goofy.

      • Why not just cut off entitlements, many leave voluntarily when you do that.

        • WUSRPH

          In 2013 Cruz said his amendment would allow the 12 million to stay and get work permits. Now he tells us that he did not mean what he was saying….It was actually a “poison pill” to: (a) kill the bill (which it did not) or (b) expose the Democrat’s plan to make all the illegals voters, whichever or both you will believe. He could not tell us at the time, however, because his “true intentions” had to be kept secret, says the paid Cruz mouthpiece.

          So that this does not happen again—-i.e.—that we get confused listening to what he says when he really does not mean it—I suggest that Cruz adopt the practice of pulling on his left ear lobe when he really does not mean what he says.

        • WUSRPH

          Until you repeal the 14th Amendment you will not be able to “cut off entitlements” to any of their children born in the U.S. This greatly reduces the pressure an illegal would feel to leave on his own since he does not have to worry about the welfare of his kids. Sorry if the Constitution stands in your way. However, I am sure that Trump would ignore it and Cruz would try to explain his way around it, if they were ever to get a chance.

  • Another democrat caught stealing. When does it stop….it never does.

    http://www.youngcons.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-accesses-hillary-clinton-data-gets-suspended/

  • Jed

    glad to see you noticed your guy lying.

    • John Johnson

      What I’ve noticed is that they all do.

      • Jed

        did you see the politico chart that got posted here a couple days ago? some lie more than others.

        cruz is gunning for the all-star team. meanwhile, bill clinton, who got impeached for lying, is more honest than the lot of ’em.

        • John Johnson

          Saw it. Bill only lied about who he was doing.

          • Indiana Pearl

            At the same time Hastert was molesting young boys and Newt was communing with Callista under his desk . . .

          • WUSRPH

            To be fair, there has been no evidence presented that Hastert was doing anything to anyone WHILE he was speaker. The only evidence (more inference than strictly evidence) is of events that happened years before. Newt, however, is a different case.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Hastert was negotiating with his victims at the same time he was excoriating Clinton, was he not?

          • Jed

            yup. i was never a big fan of either clinton, but in the big picture, they are both saints compared to the alternative(s).

            i’ll take an adulterer (heck, i married one) over world war iii anyday.

      • Beerman

        JJ, the majority of today’s politicians are in the habit of lying, and counting on their political loyalist not to notice. There is very little concern about what kind of scam it is or will be. “It is a strategic alliance of snake-oil vendors.”

        • John Johnson

          I have grown really tired of it. Looking for some really soft sand out in the sticks somewhere to bury my head in.

          • Beerman

            Make sure that it is soft sand, and not some of the bull-manure being spread by our political elite……..

          • John Johnson

            Makes no difference. Already got that all over me. We all do.

        • WUSRPH

          Few actually “lie” –i.e.–tell a complete falsehood. Most “spin” in which you tell some of the truth, but leave out some things…..That is technically “not lying”…as, if challenged, they will normally fill in the gaps. In this case with Cruz, however, what we appear to have Is a revelation of “a secret intention” that at the time was so secret and which was so vital that the “enemy” not find out, that it could not be revealed until now. That would be that his amendment was actually a “poison pill” designed to kill the bill and/or to show the Democrats hypocrisy, which ever of the two you will believe. Of course, we have to take him “on his word” that the secret now being revealed actually existed.

          • Beerman

            Today’s political class can just dismiss any fact that doesn’t agree with their lies, because they can find some source of information, somewhere, that will agree with them.

          • WUSRPH

            That is all part of the “spin”….Having a source to cite makes it “true”—-or at least “true” to you and that source….Your folks will believe you….That’s how you deny Climate Change.

  • Indiana Pearl
  • WUSRPH

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/12/what-ted-cruz-and-isis-have-in-common.html

    Talk about reaching…..New York magazine has an article comparing Ted Cruz’s economic plan to that of ISIS…Says they are not that far apart. Guess fanatics share more than we thought.

  • WUSRPH

    https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/428658/new-melting-pot

    The current issue of National Review has an article that I suppose is supposed to represent the intelligent, non-fanatic Conservative Republican line on immigration. It does make a few interesting points. For example, it notes that illegal aliens with few or no skills take the longest to assimilate in our national melting point. Seems they spend too much of their time with others just like them because their non-skilled labor does not expose them to more assimilated people.

    The article suggests that we continue to allow immigration from all areas, but that we should try to limit it to more skilled workers because they assimilate faster. Sounds reasonable, but it would tend to put us back to the immigration acts of the 1920s that demanded that the immigrant show means of support, etc. Those acts also specifically limited immigration from the areas of the world where most of the immigrants are not coming from. This new proposal would not be that blatant but might have a similar impact since many of those now immigrating from south of the US and, perhaps, India and China as well, lack the higher level of skills this proposal demands. This may limit those from those areas in favor of the immigrants from Western Europe who were specifically favored by the those earlier laws.

    I also wonder if we really want to encourage much more immigration by skilled workers when the jobs they would be filing are those we would like to see occupied by American Blacks, Hispanics and other groups who it is to our national interest have an opportunity to move up the economic scale. Non-skilled immigrants, on the other hand, do not often compete with existing citizens and residents for the kind of bottom of the ladder jobs they normally fill.

    All in all, another idea to put into the hopper while we debate the best course for the future.

    • Indiana Pearl

      How do we define “assimilation”? And who decides?

      • WUSRPH

        Some symbols would be learning some English, which is the dominant language, and having interactions with others not in your same condition…..You know the same stuff all the other groups went thru to make them Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans….One does not have to give up their national customs and traditions to do that.

        • Indiana Pearl

          English language proficiency is important, but immigrants from Europe often had female family members who never had the need to speak anything other than their narive language. Their children always learned English and were often bilingual.

          Perhaps a dialog about what constitutes “assimilation” would be useful.

          • first they should stop killing Americans because they are Americans. That would be a good start.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Americans do that too.

            Try again.

          • WUSRPH

            I would say a person is fully assimilated when the “old country” becomes just that…..and full allegiance is transferred to the “new”. For example, this was still in question with some German-Americans in WWI (especially before the US entered the war), but by WWII there appeared to be no question with 99.9% that the US was their country and Germany only a place their predecessors came from. When the same happens with one of today’s immigrants I will say that that person is assimilated.

  • WUSRPH

    The sun rose this morning.

    Ted Cruz made it happen
    –The Troll

    There was a tornado in Kansas.

    It is all Hillary’s fault.
    —The Troll

    A “objective” analyst.

    • and what would a 47%er know about being objective…

      • WUSRPH

        Not being a “47%” whatever that may be today–as you seem to change the definition to fit the situation—I know a lot more about it than someone who constantly cuts and pastes other peoples’ thoughts because he has none of his own.

        • John Johnson

          You know, I don’t agree with lots of what JBB posts, but how are his “cut and paste’s” different from what you post as your you opinions? Trying to wrap my head around this.

          • WUSRPH

            Because I do not base virtually an entire post on materials cut and pasted from other blogs, etc. Plus the items which I usually post links to I post as being “interesting”, etc. I very rarely say or suggest that they are my opinion. A good example is the post last night of an article on immigration reform from the right-wing National Review which is not a publication I would normally agree with. I posted it so you could see what others are thinking on the subject.

          • John Johnson

            Oh, I see the difference in what is involved with a link that expresses one’s views and a link that expresses ambivalent views. What you questioned was his using links to express his views instead of expressing his own, using his own words. Right or wrong?

          • Indiana Pearl

            Wrong!

          • Indiana Pearl

            He doesn’t read or understand what he cuts and pastes.

  • Dija you ear story about democrats caught stealing, a crooked administrator’s coverup and a drunk DA? No neither did anyone else.

    Heard about the UT ticket scandal? Yanno where employees were printing tickets and selling them to scalpers….
    “Because, at UT, that’s apparently what you call it when you find an email from an employee asking a ticket scalper when he could expect a deposit in his personal bank account, and then find “transfers and deposits” into that account.”

    you just call the Travis cty DA and change the report….

    “In fact, as Austin American-Statesman reporter Brian Davis detected — by comparing the final audit to a draft version — the official response was to tone down some of the language so the auditors’ description of “possible kickbacks” became “possible conflict of interest.”

    The report was delayed 3 1/2 years till after Powers left UT and the report changed?

    Wow! Who does this?

    “The official investigation was unofficially finished 3 1/2 years ago but didn’t come to light until President Bill Powers left office.”

    Nothing to see just another democrat scandal.

    http://pushjunction.com/l/21463

    • Indiana Pearl

      Who cares? Why is this important? Is it relevant?

      Naw . . .

      • exactly government corruption by bored state workers is acceptable behavior to democrats.

        • Indiana Pearl

          No answer . . .

          • You always have an answer very few make sense.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Idiots often have comprehension problems.

          • Beerman

            “Those who want to believe the worst will believe the worst.”

          • John Johnson

            Need more Wallace Hall’s asking questions instead of going-along-to-get-along types the board has been filled with for decades. In the big scheme of things, this is minor stuff, but still worthy of being exposed and corrected. It’s our money, our stadium, our university.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Allen West’s appointment is not on the Board of Trustees or whatever it’s called at UT. His appointment is to the Sunset Commission, whatever that is. Abbott will extract a campaign donation from him, just like Perry did with his appointees.

            All paid for with our tax dollars . . .

          • WUSRPH

            Again, West—who was “allowed to resign from the Army”–was not appointed by Abbott but by Patrick. The Sunset Commission is a legislative branch agency charged with studying the operations of state agencies and programs to identify needed reforms and/or to recommend that the agency/program be “sunsetted” or terminated. It was created by a bill by that well known leftist now Democratic U.S. Cong. Lloyd Doggett back in 1975.

          • cut cut cut meNDan are coming for you.

          • WUSRPH

            Cut, cut, cut meNDan passed the largest budget in Texas History. At this rate of cutting we will have a budget of a Trillion Dollars per year before he leaves office.

          • you don’t know what the sunset commission is? It gets rid of dumb democrat laws.

          • WUSRPH

            Actually, it was created by a (hide your face) LIBERAL DEMOCRAT….but reality is of now concern to you.

          • John Johnson

            Question…what has the SSC done that has been of significant difference?

          • WUSRPH

            It now has a 40 year history….and the results have been varied. It actually has led to the abolishment of a few state agencies and a lot more sub programs. Its biggest achievement would probably be the fact that it led to the addition of more “citizen members” to the state regularly boards which were originally dominated by the group they were regulating. It has also done a lot to bring about more “transparency” (a word I hate) in agency operations and improved the way complaints are handled. It also forces the Legislature to systematically examine the regulations and rules of the various agencies and forces the agencies to defend them. In recent years it has been specifically charged to determine whether the service can be provided better by private sources. It has not brought about the New Jerusalem or solved all the world’s problems but things would have been worse without it. I cannot give you a session-by-session “score card” but you can read a lot more about it by simply Googling Texas Sunset Commission.

          • John Johnson

            That could have been written by anyone advocating for what the SSC has done. I think they have made recommendations regarding ethics reform and what were the results of these recommendations?

          • WUSRPH

            If you want to know what it recommended for changes in the rules, laws, etc. governed by the Texas Ethics Commission back for the 2013 session and what happened look here.

            https://www.sunset.texas.gov/reviews-and-reports/agencies/texas-ethics-commission-tec

          • John Johnson

            Come on, know-it-all…some of us actually work for a living and don’t keep up with the minutiae. We expect a commission to do something without us commonbreds standing over them to see that they do their jobs. Going back through the records to see what they accomplished is history. That’s your forte. I asked about ethic reform suggestions that I believe they recommended that never came to pass. If you study closely, anything having to do with ethics or limitations put on special interests groups with big $ never get implemented. If I am wrong, please let me know. It’s all a racket.

          • WUSRPH

            If you check, you will see that the reason their recommendations for ethics in 2013 were not implemented was because they Gov. Perry vetoed the bill passed by the Legislature. The Commission had nothing to do with the ethics legislation considered in 2015. The reforms adopted by the Legislature were also vetoed by the governor, Abbott this time. He vetoed them at the request of a whole lot of people interested in ethics reform because of a provision Sen. Huffman (R-Houston) had inserted to keep from having to report her husbands substantial interests in bars, etc.

            As to your comments on nothing ever getting implemented……May I ask where you think the ethics laws we got came from? They were not passed down from Heaven. All of them were passed by the Legislature with a lot of blood and sweat and tears.

            I played a significant role in the passage in 1975 of the campaign spending and reporting law and am somewhat proud of that.

            There was also a major reform in 1991, including the creation of the Ethics Commission, thanks to Bob Bullock. The laws are not perfect…..I, personally, if given the chance would make several changes….but the situation is a lot better than because Price Daniel Jr. pushed thru the first reform package in 1973, which he refined in 1975 and because of what Bullock got passed in 1991.

          • John Johnson

            Sharpstown has been a long time ago. My point is that the two parties work together in recent years when two things are being considered…one is to defeat legislation that forces ethics reform on all of them, and the other is when big money wants something major passed like electricity deregulation when King and Dunnam, just short of sine die, pulled off their point of order hoax that killed the last chance Texas consumers had to control some aspects of the corrupt legislation. Everyone got bought off. If you want to resurrect this, I am all for it. It is what raised me from the living political dead and made me the government hater I am today. You were still around, right? I will give you a lesson if you want one.

          • WUSRPH

            This line you’ve been pushing about you being a “dumbass voter” or a “common bred” is getting just a little ridiculous. Your ego is as big as Donald Trump’s and your attempt to portray yourself as some helpless bumpkin is absurd.

          • John Johnson

            I am a commonbred. I have no stroke. I just have one measly vote and no big check to go with it. It gets me nothing. Money makes my opinions, wants and needs moot, along with thousands of others like mine.

          • Indiana Pearl

            You know, Mr. W., JJ just uses you as his personal tutor. He’s too lazy to do his own research, then browbeats you because of your knowledge and experience. It seems like abuse to me.

          • WUSRPH

            He needs no research or facts. He has all the answers without the need. It has something to do with the size (ultra-enlarged) of his ego.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Don’t be his foil!

          • Indiana Pearl

            If only it got rid of right-wing theocrats, my tax dollars would be well spent.

        • Indiana Pearl

          Here’s a story of a bored state worker, Greg Abbott, appointing a recent Floridian and all around nut job, to be a bored state worker in Texas — your tax dollars at work, folks:

          http://www.texastribune.org/2015/12/18/patrick-appoints-allen-west-former-florida-congres/

          • WUSRPH

            There are many, many things to blame Abbott for but this is not one of them. West was appointed by MeNDAN himself….Lt. Gov. Patrick.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Oops! A different bored state worker . . .

      • Beerman

        The troll seems to ignore that the UT Board of Regents that rule The University are composed of Republicans appointed by former Gov. Oops?

    • Indiana Pearl
  • Did UT demand democrat John Sharp fire aggie coach Kevin Sumlin?

    “Texas A&M chancellor John Sharp sharply disputed a Horns Digest report claiming he was looking into firing Aggies coach Kevin Sumlin.”

    http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2015/12/texas-ams-john-sharp-report-hes-trying-to-fire-kevin-sumlin-a-fairy-tale/

    Yawl remember democrat John Sharp, well maybe not he was the last democrat to supposedly win a statewide election in Texas over 20 years ago. Now UT is calling on him to fire the highly successful aggie coach.

    • WUSRPH

      I have heard of REACHING….but this one is even worse the article trying to suggest that Cruz and ISIS have the same monetary policy….Actually, there is probably more truth in that story then this one you are trying to spread.

      • nope dems always over reach we just laugh at yawl.

        • WUSRPH

          D- in thought expression. F in sentence structure. C- in spelling.
          But keep trying. We will get your through First Grade Grammar one of these years.

          • Indiana Pearl

            He has a problem with punctuation as well.

  • Boss Tweed

    Now now now yawl don’t worry your pretty little haids about not voting in the primary. We’ll tell you when and how to vote……and throw yawl a few scraps of the table.

  • Boss Tweed

    Glam-ma is a little confused and must be hidden on Saturday nites but she is our grandma…..

    “From praising Clinton’s infamous Benghazi testimony as “charming” and “disarming” to wondering what to call the new grandmother “Maybe Glam-Ma?” Raddatz has shown a soft-spot for the former Secretary of State.” http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/geoffrey-dickens/2015/12/18/worst-liberal-outbursts-abc-democratic-debate-moderator-martha#sthash.iTNCsRHj.dpu

    • Indiana Pearl

      You are incredibly infantile — “a chubby old guy who has no friends.”

    • WUSRPH

      Funny then that it was Raddatz who asked the really tough questions, including about Libya….but, as usual, the truth means nothing to you.

  • John Johnson

    Why are Dem debates scheduled on Saturday nights? I’m going to watch the football game like most will be doing. Hillary knew this when she insisted on times and places. Stinky, but true to form for her.

    • Unbelievable dems just do what they are told to do.

    • Indiana Pearl

      It’s Wasserman-Schultz, all samesame.

    • Beerman

      Actually it is a smart move by the Dems. This far out from the Nov 2016 election, they are letting Trump/Cruz demagogue the GOP into oblivion by hogging all the prime time media with all their extreme lies and rhetoric. Letting the clowns play without interfering is not a bad strategy.

      • Indiana Pearl

        Saves money too!

  • WUSRPH

    We still cannot post on “A tough pill to shallow”. Guess we probably will never be able to do so. That is why I have posted a few items that could have gone there on this thread.

  • WUSRPH

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/12/election-and-the-death-of-white-male-power.html

    Another article of interest on the end of the days of White Male power.
    Well, it was nice while we had it.

  • Hillary says if we can take your guns you will do as we say….hahaha bozos.

    • WUSRPH

      Gross distortion, but what else could we expect from you. They have not gotten the “official attack of the day” out to you yet…But I am sure we will see you post it soon.

      • you watching? Now that is what I call a die hard dem. Too bad you don’t get a vote….how dumb is that?

        • WUSRPH

          Actually, there was nothing on TV but reruns….but it never hurts to try to keep informed and pay attention to what is going on…It is possible to learn something that way. You might try it sometime. Assuming that is that you are still capable of learning…

  • John Johnson

    Half time. What have I missed by not watching Hillary, Bernie and what’s-his-name on a Saturday night? How many working people, on the one night each week they have to really recreate, are watching? Another calculated effort to keep from exposing their “warts” from as many as they can…especially Hillary’s. Can’t wait for whoever she faces once choices have been decided. She is toast. All that dark money has all sorts of things to attack her on, regardless of the Repub choice. They are just waiting for the chance.

    • WUSRPH

      Actually it was a fairly good debate. Some sharp exchanges and differences but none of the nastiness that you see on the GOP debates, particularly by and about Trump. As to the outcome, Hillary went in a 27 plus point favorite and came out the same, if not more. She strongly defended herself from attacks by her opponents and some sharp questions by the female moderator. You should watch sometime. You might learn something beyond your preexisting conclusions.

      • John Johnson

        Actions speak louder than words. Her actions preclude my listening to any bullshit she has to say. Any objective person would add up all the actual, factual controversies she has been the center of and yell “fire”. Even if embellished, they are real and condemning.

        • WUSRPH

          I like the way you carefully consider all the factors and examine all the evidence and listen to all sides before pronouncing your pre-conceived judgment.

          • John Johnson

            Jeez…how many times do I have to listen to it? I have watched her as Sec of State for how many years? She should be in prison.

          • Indiana Pearl

            It’s simple. Turn off your television.

            If Bush/Cheney aren’t in prison, neither should Hillary.

          • John Johnson

            Throw all three of them in. I don’t care. I just know she needs to be there. She’s stinky.

          • Beerman

            JJ, I believe that all of the present candidates stink (both parties). However, if Cruz or Trump becomes the GOP candidate, Clinton will win in a landslide because moderates (like myself) will not vote for a demagogue. It is a very sad situation for our Country and democracy.

          • John Johnson

            I hope Romney pops back in at the last moment to save us from ourselves.

          • Indiana Pearl

            You fall in love so easily . . .

          • Beerman

            I am not sure which theocracy would be the most alarming, one led by Cruz’s backers and/or one led by Romney’s backers?

          • John Johnson

            Take your pick.

          • Beerman

            Valid point.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Bookies say Hillary v. Rubio and Hillary wins.

    • It started with Martha making Bernie apologize to Hillary and O’Malley.

      “Instead, Sanders opened the two-and-a-half hour debate by looking at Clinton and saying: “Yes. I’m sorry.””

      weally weally sorry.

      • John Johnson

        What a line-up. Has anyone in that group ever had a real job? Oh, I know Hillary has a law degree, got fired from one job for lying, was investigated for illegal activities while at a Little Rock law firm, and then made windfall profits in a questionable cattle deal, but aren’t they all just professional politicians?

        • WUSRPH

          Sorry, the only ones who could by stretching it very much be called something other than “professional politicians” have either already gotten out of the race or as named Trump and Carson. And they are certainly not poster boys for what you are looking for in a candidate.

  • It will be known as the loss of manhood debate….
    “say you’re sorry to Hillary, I’m sorry Hillary.”
    “agree with Hillary, I agree with Hillary.”

    Actually there were two memorable lines in the debate. Bernie, “we need to tax the rich.”
    Hillary, “we are now safe we have a UN resolution against ISIS.”

    Most disappointing moment of the debate, not one candidate threatened to sue.

    • WUSRPH

      None of them threatened to round up more than 12 million people (plus their citizen relatives) either.

      • Neither did Cruz but that won’t dems from saying he did.

        • WUSRPH

          Sentence structure: D (won’t WHAT?)
          Ability to express oneself so that you can be understood: C- (by filing in gaps)
          Keep at it. You have reached the level of grammar expected by the third month in kindergarten. We hope to get your up to the First Grade standard in time for your next test.

          • why can dems have some imagination? Show some curiosity? Goodness I try to help them but they seem clueless…welp I tried.

          • WUSRPH

            See you added the “stop” to your prior post. Now it makes a little sense.

          • When my good friends the dems lose on an issue they immediately attack spelling or grammar…..hahaha

    • WUSRPH

      Another gross distortion….She did not say “safe”….She said that, with the UN resolution, we are now prepared to wage a coordinated assault on ISIS…..because we now have the international community, including Russia and China, on record as supporting that action…. It is kind of funny that you are almost as good at inserting misleading words into what you claim someone else said as you are at leaving them out of your own sentences. Neither makes sense, of course,

      But keep at it…It might qualify you for a low level post in Cruz’s Ministry of Truth if he wins. You can be the new Winston, the guy burning the records that no longer reflect the truth as Cruz sees it.

  • I’m shocked….. ya mean they lied?

    “Hillary Clinton spoke of fixing “glitches” in President Barack Obama’s health care law to address rising costs, skimming over deeper issues on matters of affordability and the Affordable Care Act. And in education, fancy dorms and football stadiums aren’t the big reason for higher college costs, as Bernie Sanders suggested.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/20/ap-fact-check-clinton-sanders-on-health-care-and-education.html?intcmp=hpbt1

    But the gullible eat it up.

  • Confused glam ma wanders off during debate…

    “Hillary Clinton went missing during the Democratic debate, and it did not go unnoticed.”

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/12/19/hillary-clinton-went-missing-from-democratic-debate-briefly/

  • Indiana Pearl
  • I couldn’t Bernie said this to Hillary

  • WUSRPH

    A truly fair and balanced report (as distinguished from the Troll’s slanted and unbalanced) on the Democratic debate. Even some criticism.

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/12/debate-showed-the-democrats-at-their-best.html#

  • WUSRPH

    “Mitchell Bosworth – a Kingwood resident who has a Facebook page that’s crowned by a huge Confederate flag – filed to run in the GOP primary election for the seat in the Houston area that State Rep. Dan Huberty of Humble is seeking again in 2016.” Capitol Inside

    He may have some trouble with the constitutional oath that requires that he pledge to support the Constitution of the United States if he somehow gets elected….But hypocrisy should not be a problem. He can always cross his fingers when he gets to that part.

  • WUSRPH

    When you hear someone make the claim that the ACA (Obamacare) has resulted in skyrocketing insurance costs, point out that:

    “premiums increased for covered workers with family coverage by 26 percent between 2009-2014. However, between 2004-2009 those premiums rose by 34 percent, and between 1999-2004 they rose by a whooping 72 percent.”

    And those big ones were BEFORE OBAMA CARE…under GWB.

    Don’t you just hate it when someone puts things into perspective?

    • Welp lets put it in perspective

      “I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year.”

      http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/521/cut-cost-typical-familys-health-insurance-premium-/

      • WUSRPH

        To be fair, I have to point out that the figures I posted above about insurance premium increases may cover workers in group policies and not those with individual policies, who are the ones that JED and company were talking about a day or so ago. It still shows that some rates went up a lot more under Bush than under the ACA, but it may be comparing apples and oranges. I wouldn’t want to deliberately mislead anyone….although it seems to be a common habit with at least one poster.

      • Indiana Pearl

        Perspective through the wrong end of a telescope . . .

    • Indiana Pearl

      Booksie is no health care economist. Texas examples help explain it to Booksie:

      http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/health-cares-cost-conundrum-squared

  • WUSRPH

    Donald Trump on Putin: No one has PROVEN that he’s a bad guy..

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/20/donald-trump-on-putin-nobody-has-proven-that-hes-killed-anyone/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump-putin-215pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

    And the Bohemian Corporal did not know what Himmler was up to either.

  • WUSRPH

    Trump has big lead in NH and SC. Cruz ahead in Iowa…..

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/263871-poll-trump-holds-sizable-lead-in-nh-cruz-ahead-in-iowa

    Iowa is a caucus state—where the outcome is based on who shows up for nighttime meetings. NH and So Carolina have actual voting. GOP strategists who oppose Trump had hoped that South Carolina would be the “firewall” that ends Trumps run.

    • Beerman

      The Iowa caucus state is controlled by an extreme evangelical movement that selected Huckabee in 2008, and Santorum in 2012, Cruz will win Iowa in 2016, and then disappear into the sunset just like his predecessors did. His presidential asperations and demagoguery will eventually cost him his Senate seat, and he will end up being a Fox News prophet until he runs again in the 2020 presidential election. Huckabee, Santorum and Cruz, the evangelical “dream team.”

      • WUSRPH

        Actually, the way the Texas GOP is going I think Cruz could probably get re-elected in two years….but I doubt he will run. After being given the “South Pole Treatment” by all the rest of the US Senate for a couple of years I figure even some with his more than ultra-enlarged sense of his own importance will get the message and move on.

  • WUSRPH

    It look like everybody has had their opposition researchers working on Cruz’s “inconsistencies” (changing what he said he said) this week:

    http://www.texastribune.org/2015/12/20/cruz-faces-new-charges-inconsistency/comments/?c=270217

  • Are the democrats embarrassed by their candidates?

    “What a shamefully imbalanced primary season this has been. For all their flaws and fakery, the Republican candidates have squared off frequently, at convenient hours and despite the menacing nimbus of Donald Trump’s hair; the Democratic candidates have, in contrast, hidden in a closet.”

    Shouldn’t the debates showcase your candidates so the American voters can know how they stand on the issues and pick a leader?

    “The last meeting of the Democratic candidates was also on a Saturday night, and fewer than nine million viewers tuned in, down from 15.3 million for the sole Democratic debate so far on a weeknight. All of the Republican debates have been on weeknights; the first two attracted more than 23 million viewers each.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/17/opinion/campaign-stops/the-invisible-democratic-debates.html?referer&_r=0

    The democrats have chosen their candidate for their voters, now all that is left is to try to disrupt the republican primary with rumors, lies and innuendos.

    • WUSRPH

      You mean the Democrats should do what Nixon did to their candidates in 1972 with the “Dirty Tricks”? But didn’t a couple of your good GOPers go to prison for that? Oh, I forgot they were stupid enough to block,a lock again AFTER the guard had already cleared it once….So they got caught burglarizing the Democratic Party’s National HQ, didn’t they?

      • “Hillary Clinton lies. This is a widely acknowledged fact among people who pay attention and aren’t on her payroll. Nearly 20 years ago, New York Times columnist William Safire wrote, “Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our first lady — a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation – is a congenital liar.”
        http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420963/hillary-clinton-lies-emails-subpoena

        Obama lies, Bill lies, Hillary lies. Everyone knows it.
        Does it matter to dems? As Hillary says “what difference does it make?”

        • BCinBCS

          I tried to add this chart before but Disqus doesn’t have provisions to do so but you can look it up yourself.

          All Politicians Lie. Some Lie More Than Others.
          http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-some-lie-more-than-others.html?_r=0

          Now, tell me again how Hillary is “a congenital liar”. (Look where your boy Ted ranks.)

          • Indiana Pearl

            This has been posted earlier, perhaps by you. Great article! However, those who need it most will fail to read it or deny its relevance.

          • BCinBCS

            Yea, Pearl, it was me. The only reason that I posted it again was the diminishing hope that he would read it this time.

          • Indiana Pearl

            He only reads headlines, not text or charts.

        • WUSRPH

          Misquoting people again….I thought agreed to stop lying about Democrats in exchange for me stopping telling the truth about Cruz…but here you go again.

          • Indiana Pearl

            He is a compulsive liar, chronic and unredeemable.

          • WUSRPH

            The problem may be that he does not know he does it…His mind is such that, if he thinks it, he is convinced its true…

          • Indiana Pearl

            The “insanity””defense . . . I’m not buying it.

          • In Texas a man’s word means something….a reason why dems haven’t won a statewide election in over 20 years.

      • Indiana Pearl

        We worked to help voters in Ohio in 2004 – another election completely corrupted by Ken Blackwell and Diebold.

    • WUSRPH

      Since you linked us to the column he wrote BEFORE the Democratic debate, why not to the one he wrote AFTER the GOP debate. Seems he was not so unenthusiastic about the outcome.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/16/opinion/cruz-blusters-and-trump-sulks-at-tense-republican-debate.html?_r=0

      • fo you have a life?

        • Indiana Pearl

          Do you?

          • Yes and occasionally I stop by to laugh at you. Believe me it is a great life.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Only idiots laugh when nothing is funny.

          • maybe you aren’t “in on the joke.” Is there anything that doesn’t get past you?

          • Indiana Pearl

            Not much.

  • WUSRPH

    An open note to the Troll:

    If you stop lying about the Democrats and making things up they never said, I will stop telling the truth about your boy Cruz. You will come out far ahead from the deal as no one believes what you say anyway.

  • “Say you’re sorry…..I’m soowy Hillwee”

  • Indiana Pearl
  • Indiana Pearl

    For those who are not enthisiastic about Hillary Clinton, please consider what will happen to what’s left of our democracy if a GOP candidate wins the White House:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/21/opinion/the-donald-and-the-decider.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region%C2%AEion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

    “. . . Bluster and belligerence as substitutes for analysis, disdain for any kind of measured response, dismissal of “inconvenient facts” reported by liberal media . . .

  • WUSRPH

    Lindsey Graham calls it quits.

    Cruz and the WSJ. (They don’t like him much)

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ted-cruz-campaign-wall-street-journal-216916

  • WUSRPH

    Now that US producers have gotten The Congress to lift the 40-year ban on selling crude oil overseas….I wonder who they are going to sell it to and how much they will lose per barrel with both Brent (the international price) and the US price at new lows.

    http://fuelfix.com/blog/2015/12/21/brent-crude-sinks-to-11-year-low/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#36696101=0

    • John Johnson

      Wish someone would explain to me why this is being rushed through. Where’s this oil we want to export going to go? If big oil can’t make money at the current price, why would you pump it and sell it? Why wouldn’t you turn the spigots off and sit on it until you could make money? It’s not like a cow that has to be milked every day or dry up. I just don’t get it.

      • WUSRPH

        For all I know it could be something like needing to milk a cow….the system of wells, collection facilities, pipelines and etc. may need to be kept functioning….plus there is market share at stake….going out selling for less than the Brent price and taking market away from say Venezuela so, when prices go up, you will have those customers….various accounting methods…”take it or lose it contracts”….and good old tax loses….There could be all kinds of reasons. We have had some posters in the past with a lot of detailed knowledge about the oil industry. Maybe they can answer the questions.

        • John Johnson

          One they just started using was this “losing customers” reason, but it doesn’t work that way, does it? On one hand we are told that price is everything in a “global marketplace” as the hedgers would also have us believe; but then “old customers” are mentioned, as if some buyer is not basing his every purchase on price, but rather maybe who they were buying from. Which is it?

  • WUSRPH
  • “Which political party loves America? Not the United States that once existed, but the flesh-and-blood nation that we live in now.”
    Riverdale, Calif 14 killed 22 injured, Boston Marathon 3 killed 260 wounded, some love the new blood and gore in America and hate the old safe America?

    • WUSRPH

      You mean the one where Black men (and boys) could be lynched for “looking at” a White women? Or where Blacks could not vote or eat in most restaurants or even try on clothes in a department store? Or where millions of senior citizens had no medical care because they could not afford it? Or all those other things “Old White Men” like you enjoyed in the “old safe America”? America has its problems today, but, even with them, it is a better place today than it was less than 50 yeas ago….A better place you and your kind did nothing to make happen.

      • You libs get a perverse sense of satisfaction from Ft Hood.
        Let go of the hate and celebrate Christmas the birth of your Lord and Savoir.

        • WUSRPH

          You get a preserve sense of something by constantly introducing things that have no connection with what is being discussed. The only person who got any satisfaction out of Ft. Hood was the killer. On second thought, you probably go some from being able to use that tragedy to make outrageous attacks on others.

          • Nope I’ve got your self righteous azz pegged…perverse.

          • Indiana Pearl

            OMGOMGOMG! Booksie caught a typo!

          • WUSRPH

            Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I let the automatic spell checker get away from me. As to self-righteousness, I think I do not qualify for the term. I am more than aware of my faults, hypocrisies and errors and admit to them. You fit the definition much more than I do.

        • Indiana Pearl

          “Savoir”? Isn’t that a culinary magazine?

          The good Lord will not save someone as hateful and dishonest as you.

    • Indiana Pearl

      Lots of gore in Colorado Springs when a so-called Christian terrorist shot up a bunch of innocents because he, as he said, “was saved and could do anything he wants.

      • John Johnson

        He is a “so-called Christian” because you are the one calling him one. Stop it. He said he hated baby killers. You don’t have to be a Christian to feel that way. There is no proof he ever sat foot in a church that I have seen.

        • WUSRPH

          Going to Church is not required to be a Christian…..All that is required is that you believe or, in the case of this apparent nut job, think you believe. Of course, no “true Christian” would do what he did….But a bunch of folks who claim to be Christians, including some who had endorsed Cruz, have advocated killing people who perform abortions…Of course, no candidate is responsible for all of the kinds his supporters think or do—I mean who would want to be responsible for the Troll–but.I wonder if anyone has asked Cruz whether he agrees with that position?

          • John Johnson

            Sometimes you insist on stating the obvious. My whole point was that I had never read where this guy called himself a Christain or where anyone that ever knew him did. Only that he hated people butchering babies. Pearl has to throw in the word “Christian” and that is where “some say” comes from…Pearl herself.

          • Indiana Pearl

            See above.

          • WUSRPH

            Hey guys, let’s just admit that there are Good Christians and Bad Christians…and Good Everything Else (including Muslims) and Bad Everything Else. The faith does not make one wrong….It is the way the faith is used to justify actions that can make it bad.

          • Indiana Pearl

            My point exactly . . .

          • Indiana Pearl

            You aren’t someone who reads widely outside your frame of reference.

          • John Johnson

            Nope, the tabloids and those now calling themselves “online news services” are not part of my daily reading. I would appreciate it if you would not quote them as fact when trying to support your weak positions.

          • Indiana Pearl

            I read about Robert Dear’s Christianity in the NYT. Not a tabloid, but you think it’s “slanted.”

          • John Johnson

            Yeah, I missed that one. No one else must have picked up on it for repeating either. You also posted about him having a big cross displayed on the side of his trailer…missed that one, too. Never saw it in any of the photos or videos shown of either of his mobile homes. Must have yanked it down right after you saw it.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Read the NYT article. Unless you need cataract surgery, there’s a photo of a cabin with a cross on the outside wall. Detail is not your strong suit . . .

          • Indiana Pearl

            “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.” Dear believes. Who determines whether someone else is a Christian?

          • Beerman

            An old friend, a person who achieved greatness in the sport’s field and recently passed after attaining legend status once said, “I’m a believer. I wouldn’t classify myself as religious, if that means going to church every Sunday. I think it is important to treat people right and to be fair with people. I think there will be a reward for that. I don’t necessarily think going in the church house will get you brownie points. It will encourage you and make you a better person; make you more sensitive and aware of being kind to your fellow man…but I don’t think going in the church house is gonna get you there.”

        • Indiana Pearl

          YOU stop it!

          One of his ex-wives said he read the bible daily, that he could “do whatever he wanted because he was aaved.”

          Just because he doesn’t sit with you in the pews on Sunday morning doesn’t mean he doesn’t identify as a Christian. You guys on the right need to accept responsibility for the rhetoric that comes from your spokepersons.

          • John Johnson

            Some idiot who went to some three week course is not a Christian “spokesperson”. Funny you can understand this when defending Islam, but want to paint Christianity with such a much larger brush. They really did a number on you at that Catholic school, didn’t they. Did you have to have counseling?

          • Indiana Pearl

            Your ability to make a logical argument with me always comes back to my Catholic school education. Lame, weak, diversionary. It won’t work.

            Christianity, like Islam or Judaism, is a complex denomination with many branches. Planned Parenthood clinics are not attacked by Jews or Hindus. They are attacked by Catholics and evangelical Christians.

            Maybe if you’d managed to graduate from college, you’d have better analytical skills.

            http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/11/29/planned-parenthood-under-fire-literally-and-figuratively

          • Indiana Pearl

            You’re the guy who rags on about moderate Muslims failing to speak up. You folks in the evangelical community have failed as well to tamp down right-wing terrorism.

          • Indiana Pearl

            What “three week course”?

            Here’s the story Fox News didn’t report:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/us/robert-dear-planned-parenthood-shooting.html

            It ain’t Hindus or Jews blowing up PP clinics.

          • John Johnson

            I was making reference to who you call a Christian “spokesperson”.

            Furthermore, he didn’t believe what the Bible had to say, but “considered” himself a Christian??? The guy was simply crazy. He was no more a Christian than you are, but called himself one. See any parallels to the debate on good Muslim, bad Muslim? You take one side on segregating the crazies from the true Muslims, but want to lump all Christians under one banner and smear us all with one stroke. It is a study in how a bad church experience when young can make one angry and spiteful.

          • Indiana Pearl

            There you go again, denying Dear is a Christian. No matter how often you deny it, he still identifies as a Christian. The folks on the right inflame the weak-minded to commit atrocities, then take no responsibilities for the results.

            Man up. Police your co-religionists

          • Indiana Pearl

            You still haven’t explained what a “three week course” means. Do you believe one has to take a course to be a Christian? What does it take to be a Christian? Jimmy Carter is the epitome of whatnit means to be a good Christian, yet right-wingers insult him constantly.

            I call PHONIES!

          • John Johnson

            You indicate that anyone getting some sort of theological degree is a Christian spokesperson; you call a man who disavows the very tenets of being a Christian (the Bible), a Christian, just because he declares himself one. I’m tall and handsome; I’m smarter than you; I’m qualified to fly a 777…hop onboard with me. Come on, Pearl – stop it

          • Indiana Pearl

            I said nothing of the sort!! Nevernevernever!

            Let’s define “spokeperson.” A spokeperson is perhaps a minister, a layperson, a theologian, or a politician blathering about his/her beliefs. Some of them take coursework. Others are self-educated and open up a “church” in a storefront. Anyone can define themselves as a spokeperson. Who LISTENS to that individual defines their success.

            Who decides who’s a Christian? Who decides who’s a Muslim? You’re flip-flopping all over the map here today. Are you into the eggnog already?

          • John Johnson

            Me flip flopping? That’s rich. As far as the eggnog, goes. I’ve taken the cure. I’ve seen how others post under the influence here. It has taught me an indelible lesson. 🙂

          • Indiana Pearl

            You’re easily traumatized. You wouldn’t have lasted a week during WWII.

          • John Johnson

            You’re right! I’m a sissy, too.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Then let’s not send anyone else’s kids to a stupid war, okay?

          • John Johnson

            I’ve always been an advocate of using superior weapons and economic sanctions over sending some young bodies to possibly sacrifice their lives and to build roads and schools and $43M fueling stations in an attempt to buy love. I also dislike how fat cats with lots of gold on their collars send troops to take a hill, village or mountain path…watch most of them get killed or maimed, and then give up the position as if it had no importance to begin with (Outpost Restrepo). On this we agree. Where we differ is how you want to continue to let the rat kick the cat’s ass. I continue to advocate for telling them what to expect if they continue their aggression and then doing it when they ignore the warning.

          • WUSRPH

            Those “fat cats with lots of gold on their collars” are the survivors of many other young men with a single bar on their collars who led those troops up the hill and took the highest casualty rates of any rank. Remember that sometime before you start defaming our military leaders.

            By the way, the “fat cats” you refer to DO NOT WEAR GOLD. Gold insignia is limited to 2nd Lts., the lowest rank, and Majors. All the top brass in the kinds of outfits that would send troops up a hill wear SILVER.

            http://www.defense.gov/About-DoD/Insignias/Officers

          • Beerman

            JJ,

            This is my take on “kicking the cat’s ass” the common sense and patriotic way: (lengthy, but think about it.)

            There is no doubt that the fanatical ISIS movement is a true problem for the security and freedom that we enjoy in the USA, and the rest of the world, for that matter. The ISIS Islamic State deserves to be defeated and exterminated. Realistically, the Islamic State’s Muslim neighbors should solve this problem; however, we know that significant numbers of American troops will likely be required to accomplish this deserved extermination.

            I am a little gun-shy about sending troops into a Muslim religious conflict, especially after the Iraq mistake of a trumped up war by Bush 43 and Dick Cheney that cost our nation over 4400 lives and trillions of dollars from our precious treasury, as well as world respect and leadership. However, it is obvious that the ISIS treachery is real and promises to disrupt the world much like fascism grew in Europe during the 1930’s.

            Now, with that said, I have some definite common sense recommendations about what the “ground rules” should be for putting “boots on the ground” in the Middle East.

            First, and foremost, would be that POTUS and Congress would jointly declare an official War with a commitment to lead a Global Coalition to defeat ISIS. And, that this joint declaration would include legislation that will support the following common sense actions to help win the War in a relatively short period of time:

            –Activate the Selective Service Act authorizing the compulsory enlistment of eligible people to serve in our military to increase the strength of the Armed Forces of the United States to defeat ISIS.

            –Activate all National Guard units to help support and uphold our global commitments to the Middle East War effort.

            –Reactivate all military retirees under age 50 to serve and support the War effort. Their experience is priceless.

            –Initiate a “War Tax” on individual’s income that is sufficient to cover the expenses of the War. This additional income tax must be “dedicated to the War effort only” and would cease upon declared victory in the War.

            –Apprehend and seize all the Corporate funds that are parked overseas to dodge U.S. taxes. Those returned funds should be taxed at corporate rates and those taxes dedicated “to the War effort only.” The balance after taxes returned to the corporations.

            –Regulate and control profit margins on industries and private contractors that attempt profiteering from the military War effort. Greed from the war should not be rewarded and violators should be prosecuted.

            –Let our Commander-in-Chief and military leaders make the necessary decisions to use all of our available resources to win the War effort as quickly as possible.

            –POTUS and Congress working in concert with military leaders must develop an initiative (much like the WW ll Marshall Plan) to aid and support democratic governments in the Middle East after the defeat of ISIS. It will be an extensive investment and should be funded by the taxes from the War effort funds.

            These types of sacrifices by Americans, corporations and Congress must be initiated to win a declared War effort. A complete effort and commitment will defeat ISIS in a short period of time because everyone in America will be involved, and citizens will demand quick action and resolution so that our Country can return to normalcy. Also, these actions will eliminate the greedy profiteering that has extended many of our previous excursions in the Middle East. The extra troops gained from the Draft, National Guard and military retirees will provide strength, and reduce the need for extended combat tours by our present young heroes.

            America won WW ll, fought against two world powers on two different continents, in four years because of these types of sacrifices by our citizens. ISIS does not have a chance against this type of commitment from America working within a global coalition of Allies.

          • WUSRPH

            Well thought out proposal. I agree with a good deal of it. It calls for far more sacrifice than GWB did when asked what the America people could do to support the effort. You may remember he said “Go shopping”.

            However, as a person who actually went thru a pre-induction physical and the tests to be drafted, this time I say that when it comes to the Draft it should be “women and children first”. We men did ours.

          • Beerman

            No problem with sharing, I have sent my thoughts to many sources.

          • John Johnson

            Very, very well thought out and expressed. I agree with everything you stated. I grew up the son of a career Navy WWII vet. I know how that generation sacrificed. I still have conversations with them about it. We are now too selfish to ever follow in their footsteps. Your plan will never get even an inkling of consideration. Draft, tax, “limits”… all would bring howls. To the two of us, it is the sane approach. We are grossly outnumbered. I want to repeat one more time how well thought out and right on the mark your game plan truly is. The best I have ever heard.

          • Beerman

            “If we are going to do this damn thing, let’s do it right!”

          • Indiana Pearl

            I see American foreign policy driven more by testosterone than by shrewd understanding of our enemies. We did not understand the Viet Namese desire to be liberated from their French overlords. Ho Chi Minh went to several presidents to ask them to remove the French from their country. He was ignored. You know the rest of the story.

            We are now involved in “Mess-O-Potamia” because the neocons failed to understand the ancient religious feud between Shia and Sunni. I would prefer the thinking processes of Machiavelli than Don Corleone.

            Unless we understand the partipants in the conflict, we’ll continue to waste lives and treasure.

    • Indiana Pearl

      Booksie wants Old White Guys in charge. Sorry, Booksie. That train has left the station.

      • You want an old confused White woman in charge sorry that never works.

        • Indiana Pearl

          It hasn’t been tried. Hide and watch.

          • WUSRPH

            Funny, I would have thought that he liked Margaret Thatcher. Maybe Catherine the Great was more his type.

  • WUSRPH

    Theocrats pick their man…..Deal to be sealed at a secret meeting at a Texas ranch over the holidays. Now if they could just get him to stop changing his stories so much.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cruz-consolidates-support-from-key-christian-conservatives/2015/12/20/d7951a76-a5b6-11e5-b53d-972e2751f433_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_evangelicals-300pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

  • WUSRPH

    Have you folks with inside sources at TM heard anything about the source of the problem that blocked posting on the latest thread and when they expect to have it fixed? I think we have all said all we had to say—and more—on that subject by posting on this thread, but I assume they will not post another until they get the problems fixed.

    • Indiana Pearl

      Maybe this means the end of comments on Burka Blog?

  • WUSRPH

    Some “shop talk” items:

    Atty. General Paxton’s office released three important opinions today,
    two on where you can take your gun and the all important opinion on Gov. Abbott’s budget vetoes.

    The first two deal with where you can ban the taking of a gun on a college campus or a public school event. Paxton, in effect, said you can take a gun almost everywhere on a college campus (including dorms) but that there are public school events where guns are not allowed.

    The budget opinion will not get as much attention but it is far more important since it, in effect, reserves years of precedent and practice and substantially increases the governor’s power over the budget. It will be carefully examined and I can easily see it being challenged in court. The best way would be to file a writ of mandamus against the comptroller to compel him to release some of the vetoed money. This would put the issue before the Supreme Court which, I would hope, will reverse Atty. Gen. Paxton’s opinion. State Rep. Trey Martinez-Fischer was trying to stir up such a law suit in San Antonio over the veto of the funds for the new state office bldg. there. It will be interesting to see if he continues to push for this while engaged in his current race for the state senate.

    • We got it, democrats can’t win, can’t legislate so they sue….sue…sue.

      • Indiana Pearl

        Says the guy who calls the police about a post on Burka Blog . . .

        • what democrat did that?

          • Indiana Pearl

            You did. Have you changed parties?

          • Haven’t done either one…but lying doesn’t seem to be an issue with you.

          • Indiana Pearl

            Sillysillysilly Booksie. I can repeat the post that sent you to call “911.” Had to do with stolen signs in a school board election.

            Santa won’t bring you a new supply of Twinkies if you’re a naughty prevaricator.

          • don’t believe so, but whatever blows your skirt up is fine by me.

      • WUSRPH

        Sorry to disappoint you, but it was the GOP leadership in the Leg. that questioned Abbott’s vetoes. (Patrick’s staff was fully involved, but he repudiated them after he saw a way to kiss up to the governor.)

    • WUSRPH

      I have not yet read the gun opinions….as I was more interested in the budget vetoes ruling…..Did anyone but me feel that it was a fairly weak opinion?….I found very little legal reasoning or explanation of its findings. It was much more like a summary of an opinion. I suppose that there is a fully explanation somewhere, but they did not make it public. Is it possible that the AG’s office does not want to show how it reached its conclusions (a) because they would have to develop some real arguments for overturning the standing precedents and practices and they can’t do that or (b) they are withholding a fuller discussion so as not to give someone who might sue the state a view of what arguments they will have to overcome?

      Any thoughts?

  • The noose tightens,,,,

    “Texas Election Lawsuit Uncovers Hart InterCivic Computer Corruption Errors: Plus Official Election Records Missing.

    Pressley, who has a Ph.D. in chemistry and a background in semiconductor engineering management, noticed numerous election irregularities in her 2014 Austin City Council race such as more ballots than voter names as reported during early voting,”

    http://www.phibetaiota.net/2015/12/laura-pressly-texas-ballot-fraud-documented/

    More ballots than voter names…wha???? In Travis County noway!

    • Indiana Pearl

      What does a Ph.D in chemistry have to do with it?

      • what does a PhD in Chemistry have to do with more ballots than voters…..prolly nuttin….

        • WUSRPH

          She runs for public office fairly often…Loses…and either threatens to or actually sues…Always gets thrown out of court. This time the judge hit her with the legal costs

          The “missing records” in fact do not exist. She is misreading a provision in the Texas Election Code—or so says the GOP Secretary of State.

          This, of course, is an old story…..it involves the city elections in November of 2014.

          • you mean having more ballots than voters is a nonissue?

          • WUSRPH

            It depends on the circumstances of why there are more ballots. For example, some could be replacements for spoiled ballots….I would have to know more details. However, the judge listened to several hours of testimony and he threw our her case. So, he apparently did not think there was any concern…especially since she lost by more than 1,000 votes.

          • spoiled digital ballots. You’re speaking bureaucrateese again…

        • Indiana Pearl

          Then why mention it?

  • Often our friends the dems seem to be on the wrong side of issues….this sums it up perfectly and I can’t stop laughing.

  • Democrats love them some nannystateness…

    “Police in the city of Pagedale, Missouri, a suburb of St. Louis, have been fining residents for absurdly trivial things, like having chipped paint on the outside of their homes or not attaching a screen door to the back door. One resident, Valerie Whitner, has racked up fines totalling $2,400 for such heinous crimes as having a broken fence or not mowing the lawn.All towns have silly
    rules on the books, but Pagedale sets the enforcement bar at a new level. It’s
    against the law for residents to have a basketball hoop, plastic pool or
    doghouse in their front yards, for example, and satellite dishes and barbecue
    grills are illegal.”

    This what happens when you elect democrats.
    “I’m gonna tell Hillary on you.”

    • Indiana Pearl

      Ever reas “The Tipping Point” by Malcolm Gladwell? Prolly not . . .

      So what’s wrong with a community having standards? I’ll bet Missouri City has similar standards to Pagedale. Is it that Pagedale is an African American community?

      • WUSRPH

        This appears to be a case of a city with a limited tax base (and mostly poor folks) trying to raise funds with fees and fines.
        We used to have (and probably still do) have some “speed trap” cities in Texas that used the same technique. Salem just outside San Antonio was a prime example. The Leg. made that hard to do by limiting the amount of the speeding, etc. fines the city could keep….but there are always other ways….Ferguson, that other town in Missouri that was in the news for the shooting was a fairly famous speed trap town that seemed to especially prey on Blacks.

        • Indiana Pearl

          The whole Ferguson blow up centered on the “overlapping welter of jurisdictions” in STL County and the exploitation of the mostly poor and black citizens.

        • BCinBCS

          Yea, Selma got me.

  • “Guns have to be looked at as its own problem, not radical Islam.”….

  • To all my democrat friend Merry Christmas and peace on you.

    • Indiana Pearl

      Peace on your deep fried Twinkies.

      • your obsession with me is tiresome, I reminded of the Dan Jenkin’s quote “when you see a woman remember someone somewhere is tired of her.”

        • Indiana Pearl

          If you see a fat man somewhere, a woman is glad he’s out of the house.

  • Indiana Pearl
  • WUSRPH
    • Indiana Pearl

      1). Just another pretty face, and 2). rumors of potential bimbo eruptions are an undercurrent.

  • WUSRPH

    But he will probably spell the word with an “e”

  • WUSRPH

    Someone must have paid the Discus bill. You CAN post on the new post on the campus carry bill.

  • 6660splendidday
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  • 6660splendidday

    http://exposingmodernmugwumps.com/tag/raphael-cruz/

    Learn all you can about the Cruz family, father and son, then if you still decide to vote for them.. I will respect your choice.

  • 6660splendidday

    http://www.alan.com/2016/01/27/refreshing-bernie-refuses-religious-pandering/#

    So refreshing : Bernie Sanders refuses to pander to the CRAZIES. Now if he would just win the election we will be fine. We will be fine if Hillary Clinton wins also.. just, please don’t even think about the Republican party this time around. There is not one competent, loyal, intelligent person on the entire list. It is possible that the Crazies will maybe destroy each other and things will go back to normal.. We can hope, can’t we?