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The Painful Similarities Between Alabama and Texas Politics

Just substitute Roy Moore for ’bathroom bill.’

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Roy Moore and Dan Patrick.
Illustration by Anna Donlan; Moore: Scott Olson/Getty Images; Patrick: AP Photo/Austin American-Statesman, Jay Janne

Politics n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.—Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary, 1906.

Although Texas politics currently is not quite as volatile as Alabama’s, the controversial election for the U.S. Senate between Republican Roy Moore and Democrat Doug Jones is a mirror of our own state’s political condition—and a reflection of why many in the nation are sick of both major political parties.

Moore has been accused of preying upon and molesting teenage girls during his days as a bachelor (accusations he has denied), but Moore still has the support of President Trump and many other national Republicans. Meanwhile, other, more rational Republicans, such as 2012 party presidential nominee Mitt Romney, are left complaining in impotent frustration. And on the flip side, Jones is a former federal prosecutor with an outstanding record, but his party is an empty shell in Alabama, a drag on his candidacy. Jones’s best hope of winning today’s election rests less with his party than on Republican leaders urging their faithful to write in a Republican—any Republican—rather than cast a vote for Moore.

To complete the comparison between Alabama and Texas, all we have to do is replace Roy Moore with the phrase “bathroom bill.” Then substitute the anchor on Doug Jones candidacy with the Texas Democratic Party’s struggle to find A-team candidates to challenge Republican Governor Greg Abbott and Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick. The result is the same dance in a different state.

Let’s start with the comparison of the state Democratic parties. Here’s what a couple of national publications have said about the Democrats in Alabama, starting with the New York Times.

Given the party’s dismal standing in the state, Mr. Jones has largely tried to avoid advertising his out-of-state connections. He has presented himself as an independent-minded lawman and canceled a fund-raising trip to Washington to avoid stirring controversy at home. Despite Mr. Moore’s problems, the Republican has led in recent polls, and Mr. Jones’s party label could well prove an insurmountable obstacle.

Then there is this from another Times story:

“I don’t think the Lord Jesus could win as a Democrat in Alabama,” said Brad Chism, who runs a Democratic communications firm in Mississippi that has conducted surveys of female voters in Alabama in recent weeks. “They’re just waiting for the Republican Party to tell them how they’re going to fix this.”

Alabama Republicans who are looking for an alternative to Mr. Moore are turned off by the Democrats over a constellation of issues — Supreme Court nominations, the scope of federal regulation, the fact that a Democrat would probably stymie President Trump’s agenda and the general sense that the national Democratic brand is in conflict with white Southern culture. But the obstacle that voters most commonly bring up, from the college town of Tuscaloosa to suburban Birmingham to Mr. Moore’s home county in northeast Alabama, is Mr. Jones’s stance on abortion.

Politico reported it this way:

In an attempt to keep the national Democratic Party at arm’s length — and thereby not scare away Republicans — Jones canceled a fundraising trip to Washington this week, skipping an event that would have put him in a room with high-profile Democratic leaders like California Sen. Kamala Harris. Meanwhile, national-level Democrats are plying their hero-in-the-making with advice, money and tweets — without crossing the line into being a public, backfiring nuisance.

If Jones pulls off an upset victory in Alabama today, it will be because Alabama Republicans either did not vote or voted for write-in candidates, disrupting the GOP advantage. It’s no secret that Alabama and Texas went Republican years ago. The last time either state gave its vote majority to a Democratic presidential candidate was Jimmy Carter, in 1976. A Democrat has not won a statewide election in Texas since 1994. Earlier this year, the Democratic-oriented Progress Texas released a statistical report called Flipping Texas in 2018. The report shows Republican voter turnout has essentially been stagnant from one presidential election to the next, but Democratic turnout has been growing. The report optimistically points to the idea that Democratic turnout eventually will surpass that of Republicans.

But to flip a state, you have to have strong candidates. This year, no mayors or members of the Legislature have risked filing for statewide office. U.S. Rep. Joaquin Castro of San Antonio was recruited for both a U.S. Senate run or a campaign for governor; he passed on both. U.S. Rep. Robert “Beto” O’Rourke of El Paso filed for Senate, but he had a self-imposed term limit that made jumping into this race easier. Of the three main Democratic candidates for governor—Houston businessman Andrew White, Dallas gay bar owner Jeffrey Payne, and Dallas County Sheriff Lupe Valdez—all will start the race with a lack of statewide name identification. Democrat Mike Collier is running to challenge Patrick, but he lost a previous race for state comptroller.

Lightning could strike for any of these candidates, but that is relying on forces out of your control to win. Just as Jones cannot count on his party to create a victory for him in Alabama, major statewide candidates in Texas cannot count on the Democratic brand to carry them to victory here.

Now, let’s turn to the similarities between Roy Moore and the bathroom bill. President Trump has thrown his full support behind Moore, despite the weight of the evidence against him. Why? Because winning is everything. “Democrats refusal to give even one vote for massive Tax Cuts is why we need Republican Roy Moore to win in Alabama,” Trump tweeted. “We need his vote on stopping crime, illegal immigration, Border Wall, Military, Pro Life, V.A., Judges 2nd Amendment and more. No to Jones, a Pelosi/Schumer Puppet!”

Romney responded on Twitter: “Roy Moore in the US Senate would be a stain on the GOP and on the nation. Leigh Corfman and other victims are courageous heroes. No vote, no majority is worth losing our honor, our integrity.”

But just as Roy Moore has been toxic for Alabama politics, the bathroom bill did the same here. The legislation promoted by Patrick, and eventually by Abbott as well, was designed more to enrage social conservative voters than it was about any meaningful public safety issue. Retiring House Speaker Joe Straus opposed the bill and gave cover to his members who did not want to vote on it. Essentially, every Chamber of Commerce in the state, as well as the umbrella organization, the Texas Association of Business, not to mention a slew of major corporations, opposed the bill. The bathroom bill died in a special session, but not before so-called reasonable Republicans started wondering what had happened to their party.

The result of these dynamics is that Americans distrust both political parties. A CNN survey from last month found the favorable view of the Democratic Party nationally to be 37 percent, the lowest level in a quarter century. The Republicans fared worse at 30 percent, the lowest point since 1992. Millennials feel better about the Democratic Party than the Republicans, but only 43 percent had a favorable view of the Democrats. California gave Democrat Hillary Clinton the majority of her margin of victory in the popular vote in last year’s presidential campaign, but a new survey from the Public Policy Institute of California found a solid majority in that state believes the nation is headed in the wrong direction, and both parties are to blame.

Sixty-two percent of Republicans in the poll said it’s time for a third party to rival the powers that be, compared with 59% of Democrats. Not surprisingly, the sentiment is even stronger among “independent” California voters who don’t register with a party — 72% said the two big political parties aren’t making the grade.

In all other subsets of voters — by age, ethnicity, high school or college graduates and more — just 36% or fewer think the two-party system is working. The message seems loud and clear.

Meanwhile, an October survey released by the Texas Tribune/University of Texas found that 61 percent of Texas’s voters believe the nation is on the wrong track, mostly a feeling held by Democrats and independents. But even among Republicans, only 49 percent said the nation is headed in the right direction. Their perspective on the state was almost evenly divided, although self-identified Republicans held a strong belief that the state is headed in the right direction.

The underlying problem is that neither party wants to grow. In one of his exit interviews with us, Straus noted that the Republican Party activists want to shrink the party. That way, a small group of people with an agenda that is not necessarily mainstream can control the process. On the Democratic side last year, much of the interparty opposition to Bernie Sanders and his supporters held that they were not real Democrats and didn’t belong in the party. Instead of just beating Sanders fair and square—which the Clinton team mostly did—and embracing the Sanders supporters for the general election, a we-don’t-want-you hangover emerged.

State ballot access laws have largely rigged the game to continue the hegemony of the two-party system, but as we careen toward the end of 2017, both parties are at a risk of implosion. And with that, they risk losing public faith in our governing institutions.

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  • John Bernard Books

    Here’s what we know RG, democrats always accuse republicans of doing what they’re doing to take the spot light off them…..

  • WUSRPH

    I do not see how the Democratic Party can abandon is support for a woman’s right to choose……but it has to find a better way to express it…..Andrew White has the “problem” that some Democratic leaders (sic) will not accept that he, personally, is opposed to abortion….That should not be as important to them as the fact that he also is opposed to using government to force his beliefs on others… and it is that point that the Democrats need to express since it is in many ways what separates Democrats from Republicans. We will not use government to force others to accept what we belief….but the GOP will.

    • SpiritofPearl

      What other way is there to approach it? The Dem party is not “pro-abortion.” “Choice” is the operative word on the left, as well as other rights women have that both men and women on the right are willing to annihilate because of their patriarchical beliefs.

  • dave in texas

    I think a big part of what’s driving the lack of trust in either party is a concerted 40-year effort by the right to paint government itself as intrinsically evil. An effort, I regret to say, that has been largely successful. If government itself is by nature a bad thing, then anyone associated with government is by definition also evil, no matter their actual positions or attitudes.

    • Kozmo

      Excellent observation of a central problem. Then when anti-government types are in charge and fail to deliver crucial services or serve the public good, what many people perceive is that, “Oh, that lousy government failed me again,” not “Those guys don’t know how to govern and don’t want to!”

      • dave in texas

        I think it was PJ O’Rourke who said something like “Republicans campaign on a platform of government sucks, and then when elected proceed to prove the point.”

        • anonyfool

          PJ O’Rourke got old and suddenly discovered he loved Medicare and Social Security. (look it up.) Just like Ayn Rand.

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    • John Bernard Books

      So you’re saying every dem is evil because the dem leaders are corrupt?….wow how ignorant.

      • dave in texas

        Go away. The adults are trying to have a conversation.

      • Clarence Spangle

        The DNC is just a huge terror cell.

        • SpiritofPearl

          You and Booksie have at last found love.

          • Clarence Spangle

            you’re cúm drunk

          • SpiritofPearl

            You’re digging your own grave. Leaving this so the editors at Texas Monthly and the nice gentlemen who read BB can see sexual harrassment at work.

          • Clarence Spangle

            Progressives and Cuckservatives both want a theocracy from either London Jéw Karl Marx or from Russian Jéw Ayn Rand, both were progenitors of the godless open borders globalism plaguing the West today… We can’t afford healthcare for white American children because we need to be bombing everyone else’s for the love of Jesus and Israel… fúck off kíke…

          • SpiritofPearl

            You have accent marks over your vowels. Russian troll . . .

          • Clarence Spangle

            You Progressives and Cuckservatives both want a theocracy from either London Jéw Karl Marx or from Russian Jéw Ayn Rand, both were progenitors of the godless open borders globalism plaguing the West today… We can’t afford healthcare for white American children because we need to be bombing everyone else’s for the love of Jesus and Israel… fúck off kíke…

          • SpiritofPearl

            Looks like you just opened a Disqus account, Boris.

          • Clarence Spangle

            卐 “No one need be surprised if among our people the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.”–Mein Kampf 卐

          • BCinBCS

            Cláréncé, Cláréncé, Cláréncé…cóúld yóú bé ány móré ígnóránt?

          • SpiritofPearl

            Maybe he’s French or Spanish . . .

          • BCinBCS

            Nah, just an ill-informed idiot.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Have you ever used a European keyboard? All sorts of differences . . . Maybe Putin should give his trolls American keyboards.

          • BCinBCS

            Nope, I’ve never used a European keyboard. I use a Mac; it can do both.

          • Clarence Spangle

            卐 “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to become master of the same; he will remain master as long as he does not fall victim to defilement of the blood.”–Mein Kampf 卐

          • BCinBCS

            Hey Ignorant, do you think that you are “pure”? I challenge you to have your DNA tested by one of the sequencing labs (23andMe, DNA Ancestry, Gene by Gene, etc.).

            If you had paid attention in high school biology class (you did attend high school, didn’t you?), you would know that genetic diversity strengthens individuals. It is the inbred, pure-bloods who are the weak.

          • Clarence Spangle

            卐 “The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength with the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies personal worth, contests the significance of folk and race, and thereby withdraws from mankind premise for its existence and culture.”–Mein Kampf 卐

          • SpiritofPearl

            Hybrid vigor!

    • Clarence Spangle

      When a Canadian cowboy and a Texas cowboy both see a cow with her head stuck in the fence, the Texas cowboy runs over, fúcks the cow and asks the Canadian cowboy if he wants some… the Canadian cowboy runs over, drops his drawers, sticks his head into the fence and says “o.k.”

      • John Morris

        does anyone think your “joke” is funny?

        • Clarence Spangle

          The only differences between Køsher and Halal are… #1 in Køsher slaughter, the rabbi must féllatiate all the male animals… this has a calming affect… for the rabbi… and… #2 in Halal slaughter, the Imam must lick the ánus of the animal… this makes the imam slightly more agitated… ha ha ha…

          • John Morris

            so you’re trolling me
            let me guess: you’re a crazy white guy with delusions, Steve Bannon is that you

  • anonyfool

    The Roy Moore/bathroom bill analogy is a stretch. If Abbott or Patrick gets accused by multiple boys/girls of habitual predator behavior, then we can talk. Otherwise Texas looks no different than any other rural red/urban blue state (every state!) that has a dark red state wide elected officials slate like Kansas/Oklahoma/Wisconsin/etc. It looks like the one percent write in vote sunk Moore combined with huge African American turnout. The only analogy with Texas is if Latino voters actually showed up to vote as I believe this column suggested might take 30 years without a triggering event ala California GOP’s proposition 187 mistake.

  • BCinBCS

    First Virginia, now Alabama. I don’t think that Republicans realize the deep well of disgust and animosity that this nation has for Comrade Trump and the radical right.

    • SeeItMyWay

      The disgust and animosity for Trump is only outnumbered by the disgust, animosity and distrust the nation has for Hillary.

      • SpiritofPearl

        Three million more voted for her than your boy.

        • St. Anger

          When he said “outnumbered” he didn’t mean it literally. Or sensically.

          • SeeItMyWay

            When I posted it, it wasn’t addressed to you. You know nothing about sensical; you moved on to radical years ago. Statements about Hillary losing because she failed to cater to open borders socialists shows all anyone needs to know about how insignificant your positions are.

          • SpiritofPearl

            “Sensual”? Gettin’ into soft porn here, JJ.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Also that “soft borders” meme is straight out InfoWars. You are better than that.

          • BCinBCS

            Oops, I hadn’t read down to your comment when I posted my complaint about JJ’s meme.
            (Great minds and all that.)

          • St. Anger

            Uh oh, did your duck’s back get waterlogged?

            I may be many things, but I understand that big numbers are bigger than small numbers. apparently not everyone has that concept down.

            Quack quack.

          • SeeItMyWay

            Hahaha…I guess you feel that those Dem’s who stayed home and didn’t vote are non-entities. Did you vote?

          • BCinBCS

            There’s that “open borders” meme again. Will you please cite your source where Hillary Clinton proposed open borders?

          • SeeItMyWay

            Comprehension problems….read post again.

          • BCinBCS

            I did read it again. I stand corrected.

          • SpiritofPearl

            How do you know WHAT he meant?

        • SeeItMyWay

          She lost because even many Dem’s could stand her empty promises and lies any longer. I will also add that disgust and animosity cannot be measured strictly by votes cast. I believe we can all agree that many registeted Dem’s stayed home.

          • SpiritofPearl

            She was not my first choice, but you chose a psychopath, a pervert, a corrupt loser, a traitor. We will remember who supported him and his gamg of incomptents.

      • BCinBCS

        The disgust and animosity toward Hillary was almost entirely due to people not knowing her or her political positions, mainly because of lack of available information.

        • SpiritofPearl

          The right has waged a war on her for years.

        • Clarence Spangle

          you’re cúm drunk

    • anonyfool

      The exit polls show that white voters love comrade Trump and the radical right by a 2/3 to 1/3 margin. They just didn’t match historical turnout for a hysterically bad (for common sense people) candidate.

  • SpiritofPearl
    • WUSRPH

      The counties on that map won by the Democratic are almost identical to what used to be known as “The Black Belt”…..where blacks were concentrated….I guess the Alabama Legislature has to go back to the drawing board when it comes to voter suppression.

      • SpiritofPearl

        Also urban areas . . .

  • SpiritofPearl
    • donuthin2

      Poor horse doesn’t deserve that.

      • BCinBCS

        I’ve seen the videos of him on his horse and he doesn’t know the first thing about riding.
        (He’s a drugstore cowboy.)

        • SpiritofPearl

          At least he didn’t fall off on camera . . .

          • BCinBCS

            He probably learned to ride a horse on a carousel.

          • Clarence Spangle

            you suck horse penís

          • BCinBCS

            Hey Ignorant, what’s that I hear?
            It’s your rock calling you to come home and to crawl back under it.

          • Clarence Spangle

            The only differences between Køsher and Halal are… #1 in Køsher slaughter, the rabbi must féllatiate all the male animals… this has a calming affect… for the rabbi… and… #2 in Halal slaughter, the Imam must lick the ánus of the animal… this makes the imam slightly more agitated… ha ha ha… fúck off kíke…

          • SpiritofPearl

            Haha!

        • José

          That was some kind of pitiful, wasn’t it? It sure wouldn’t win him many points in Texas.

  • Thomas Rice

    While I am not sure that the comparison between the bathroom bill and Roy Moore is true, I can state that the discussions over the Bathroom Bill this year were an extreme disappointment. The Texas Legislature missed another opportunity to fix our school system; instead focusing on the bathroom bill. Maybe they need to be reminded that the learning we want to encourage occurs in the classroom, not in the bathroom. Creating (unenforceable) laws to make a few people feel good about themselves (just to be clear, we already have laws that protect people from being assaulted in a bathroom), while ignoring the needs of the majority of students in the state for better education, is just a waste of taxpayer dollars. Too bad we can’t go back to the no party system this country was founded on, stupid Jefferson and Hamilton.

    • SpiritofPearl

      The substitution of evangelical religious pandering for common sense solutions to problems all Texans face is the issue.

  • WUSRPH

    The US Senate pages are SAFE!

  • donuthin2

    I would say that Moore and Patrick have much in common. Similar character, issues and religious idiocy. I guess Patrick does to not have the sexual allegations, but otherwise they are very similar. I would vote for any decent candidate, republican or democrat, before voting for him. What a demagogue.

    • WUSRPH

      The problem is that Moore probably would have won had there been no sexual allegations……

      • anonyfool

        Moore would win in Texas with the sexual allegations because there are not enough African American voters to balance out the historical huge white vote margins in favour of racists and Latinos/Hispanics don’t show up yet to vote in representative numbers.

  • José

    Seems to me that one can make an awfully good comparison between Roy Moore and Junior Senator Rafael “Ted” Cruz (R-Alberta). They’re both both clownish characters who specialize in stunts. Except for a solid base of fervent faithful supporters they are widely disliked by both parties. If there’s a skeleton in his closet that pops out next year then Ted may lose his soapbox.

    • Clarence Spangle

      Well… When a Canadian cowboy and a Texas cowboy both see a cow with her head stuck in the fence, the Texas cowboy runs over, fúcks the cow and asks the Canadian cowboy if he wants some… the Canadian cowboy runs over, drops his drawers, sticks his head into the fence and says “o.k.”

      • SpiritofPearl

        Once was enough.

        • Clarence Spangle

          fúck off

          • donuthin2

            Wow, where did you come from? A tired old joke that was never funny and totally irrelevant.

          • Clarence Spangle

            We can’t afford healthcare for white American children because we need to be bombing everyone else’s for the love of Jesus and Israel…

          • donuthin2

            Sorry, you are making no sense. I will block you.

          • Clarence Spangle

            “The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength with the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies personal worth, contests the significance of folk and race, and thereby withdraws from mankind premise for its existence and culture.”–Mein Kampf

  • John Bernard Books

    Lemme see Roy Moore had a 10 point lead all night then just after midnight the lights went out and Jones “won” by 1.5%…..hahaha dems “steal another…..

  • donuthin2

    I don’t know enough about the details of the proposed tax bill to understand how I, personally will be affected in the short term. The one thing which I am certain is that the deficit will increase at an alarming rate. I also am very skeptical of the underlying assumption that the tax cut to big bidness will be reinvested in a way that will stimulate the economy/job market in a way that will help the “middle class”. I think tax cuts should come when you can pay your bills and take care of your responsibilities. Absolutely NOTHING conservative about the bill.

    • José

      Never made sense to me why the guvmint would borrow money in my name, with interest, give it to me and then think I ought to be grateful. Thanks no thanks.

      • John Bernard Books

        and you still vote dem….why? I realize you didn’t know this but the debt went from $10,000,000,000,000.00 to $20,000,000,000,000.00 under prez Obama…..

    • John Bernard Books

      You may consider the moniker “know nothing” the debt just went from $10 trillion to $20 trillion under prez Obama….or didn’t you notice?

    • WUSRPH

      Every analysis by other than the White House and the GOP leadership says that the tax cut will produce add at least a TRILLION DOLLARS to the deficit. Every analysis of the past “Lafer Curve” impacts has shown that they DO NOT increase government revenues enough to come close to covering the cost. The GOP knows this….but it has nothing to do with whether they pass a tax cut…..

      • SpiritofPearl

        True, true, and true, but bubbas don’t think. Like John Wayne, they just watch Faux News.

        • SeeItMyWay

          Or like liberals, read likeminded twaddle, and start repeating it…propaganda over truth; ideaology over commonsense.

          • SpiritofPearl

            For someone who partakes heavily of alt-right sources, this comment is a bit silly.

            Here’s a GREAT expose from the WaPo. You’ll say it’s “slanted.” If so, prove that it is:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/donald-trump-pursues-vladimir-putin-russian-election-hacking/

          • SeeItMyWay

            I read it, and agree with it. Trump knows that the Russians played a role in disrupting the election, and he is not going to stand in front of a mic and lambast them. What good would that do? I have also heard him ask why anyone would publicly broadcast what retaliatory actions they were looking going to take? I also reject the feeling that Russia cost Hillary the presidency. That’s a crock. She is solely responsible for that. She thought she had it in the bag and Comey and the Congressionak Judicial Committee exposed her for what she is…a liar. I think everyone who lies in front of this group should go to jail, and that includes Mills, Abedin, and all those IRS hacks.

          • SpiritofPearl

            You’ve missed the point of the whole article.

          • SeeItMyWay

            “Failed to do anything”??? Reference was made to several subtle moves being made. You simply prefer that he stand on top of the mountain and scream obscenities at Putin/Russia. There is no proof of collusion between Trump and the Russians after how many months of trying to find some? There is much more proof or stink in the uranium and other Clinton dealings. This could be bigger than Watergate. Hide and watch.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Poor JJ. Totally brainwashed. There is a smoldering fire that’s about to explode and you’re raving about uranium.

          • SeeItMyWay

            You are right about an explosion and it won’t be Trump getting blown up.

          • SpiritofPearl

            You must be brain dead not to see what’s about to happen to your boy.

          • SeeItMyWay

            Like I said before, “Hide and watch.” This is going to be good.

            P.S. What is your definition of “raving”?

          • SpiritofPearl

            Your Konni Burton commentary. How did that work for you?

            Here’s the truth about Uranium One. See how it’s done. You’ve been had, bro:

            http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/uranium-one-joy-reid-debunks-fake-news-targeting-clinton-1084014147813

          • SeeItMyWay

            Watched the piece. That Ms Kern is my new heroine. She kept so cool while that woman kept cutting off her answers.

            With regards to Burton, she dodged a bullet this goround when the mayor of Mansfield backed out from opposing her, but my other statements hold true. The business community is banding together to fight back against Empower Texans and their group of acolytes.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Ms. Kern got taken to the woodshed by Joy. You think Ms. Kern “kept her cool.” Can’t accept that a black woman out thought a white woman?

          • SeeItMyWay

            Why do you go there? Two people were debating; one constantly interrupted the other and did not let her completely answer. Never heard of either of them before.

          • SpiritofPearl

            I go there because Joy explained to the dumb white lady the truth about Clinton and Uranium One. “There is none so blind as he who cannot see.”

          • SpiritofPearl

            You can worship Ms. Kern. Joy chewed her a new one.

          • BCinBCS

            JJ, you used that same “Hide and watch” statement as we were pointing out Comrade Trump’s enormous flaws when you were supporting him as a candidate and then after he became president. It’s getting to be a tired excuse. Fool me once…

          • SeeItMyWay

            “Hide and watch about Trump the candidate”???
            He’s the President, isn’t he? Jeeez…you are dense.

          • BCinBCS

            You were the one admonishing everyone to “Hide and Watch” because candidate Trump was being “clever” with his outrageousness and lies; that he would quit his foolishness and get serious once he was elected. How convenient that you have forgotten that. How unfortunate that you fell (and continue to fall) for his grift.

          • BCinBCS

            JJ, are you dense? There is absolutely no stink in the uranium deal and Hillary Clinton. Do a little research and quit blindly accepting conservative false propaganda.

          • SeeItMyWay

            The paper you guys love to quote, the NYT’s, has posted long, detailed pieces on this subject. Now you ignore them. Bill and his cohort in crime are going down this time. Going to be bigger than Watergate. Cronies going down with them. Can’t wait.

          • BCinBCS

            I asked “JJ, are you dense?”. Because of your reply, the answer must be “yes”.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Do you really believe that? Really?

          • BCinBCS

            Bill and his cohort in crime are going down this time.

            Yawn

          • SpiritofPearl

            What “several subtle moves”?

          • BCinBCS

            I’m not exactly sure where you stand on the affect of Russia on the last presidential election. You wrote:“I also reject the feeling that Russia cost Hillary the presidency.” right after having written: “Trump knows that the Russians played a role in disrupting the election…”

            Russia may not be the reason that Hillary lost the election but it was certainly a major reason.

      • BCinBCS

        BTW, when called out on their tax plan analysis that showed no deficit increase, the Republicans had to admit that there actually was no analysis done…they simply made it all up.

        • SeeItMyWay

          No, JBB…this guy didn’t notice.

          • BCinBCS

            ??

  • SpiritofPearl

    Today would be a good day for Blake Farenthold to resign.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/blake-farenthold-accusations/index.html

  • John Bernard Books

    Who doesn’t love tax cuts?….oh yeah dems…..

  • SpiritofPearl
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  • BCinBCS

    Earlier in the week, I stated that the Republicans, despite overwhelming opposition by Americans, would repeal net neutrality. Well, Thursday they did. Apparently conservative representative democracy is defined as government by those who can pay for it.

    Here’s what the WaPo had to say about the change in the law:
    (emphasis is mine)
    “The 3-2 vote, which was along party lines, enabled the FCC’s Republican chairman, Ajit Pai, to follow through on his promise to repeal the government’s 2015 net neutrality rules, which required Internet providers to treat all websites, large and small, equally. The agency also rejected some of its own authority over the broadband industry in a bid to stymie future FCC officials who might seek to reverse the Republican-led ruling.” That last sentence really pisses me off.

  • BCinBCS

    Earlier in the week, I stated that the Republicans, despite overwhelming opposition by Americans, would repeal net neutrality. Well, Thursday they did. Apparently conservative representative democracy is defined as government by those who can pay for it.

    Here’s what the WaPo had to say about the change in the law:
    (emphasis is mine)
    “The 3-2 vote, which was along party lines, enabled the FCC’s Republican chairman, Ajit Pai, to follow through on his promise to repeal the government’s 2015 net neutrality rules, which required Internet providers to treat all websites, large and small, equally. The agency also rejected some of its own authority over the broadband industry in a bid to stymie future FCC officials who might seek to reverse the Republican-led ruling.” That last sentence really pisses me off.

    How many of you support the Republican party’s efforts to sell the federal government to the highest bidders? How many of you blindly vote for the R on the ballot without questioning what they plan to do? How many here at BurkaBlog wrote or called their congresscritter to oppose this and other Republican crappy decisions that will directly affect your children and grandchildren? How many here are actively involved in Resist groups to stop the wholesale sale of our democracy? When the chit hits the fan, you will have only yourself to blame for its affect on yourself and future generations.

    • Jed

      I’m down with most of your note, but:

      “When the chit hits the fan, you will have only yourself to blame for its affect on yourself and future generations.”

      sorry, no. there are people who did this, and are continuing to do all manner of wicked stuff, and one of their techniques is to make sure preemptively we don’t really have the power to stop them. motivate all you want, but let’s keep putting the blame squarely where it belongs.

      • BCinBCS

        Yes, as I noted in the case of net neutrality, Republicans are doing things to ensure that their policies are enacted and then cannot be reversed. Nonetheless, it is the responsibility of everyone opposed to them to battle tirelessly against those policies. Your kids and grandkids affected by these bad laws are not going to be content with the excuse that you did nothing because it was hard or that you didn’t have time or know what to do.

        • SpiritofPearl

          Once the citizenry starts to get the bill from their ISPs, let’s remind them of why the internet doesn’t work like it did.

          • BCinBCS

            Sure but, unfortunately, the damage will have been done.

          • SpiritofPearl

            It can be fixed.

          • BCinBCS

            I haven’t fully researched it but I believe that the Republicans have altered the rules such that it will take a congressional bill, rather than an agency rule change, to revert to net neutrality.

          • SpiritofPearl

            So three people on the FCC can change it, but it takes an act of Congress to restore it?

          • Jed

            cf. everything the RRC does.

          • SpiritofPearl

            Three Repubs, two Dems. Administration changes, so composition of FCC changes.

            Heard an Indian computer science professor at Columbia discuss how he helped India set up net neutrality. Head of their agency well-trained in comp. sci., so knew what he was doing. Our FCC guys are political hacks. Another example of how the GOP is destroying American influence . . .

        • Jed

          they may however have to settle for “everything i could do wasn’t enough to combat the power of all the wealth ever assembled by western civilization, so it really didn’t matter what i did.”

          • BCinBCS

            Ya, you do have a point, Sancho Panza.

  • Richard G. Ellis

    When these political lardheads start putting country over party, things will then change. All they care about is getting re-elected. Political public service was meant to be a sacrifice, not a career.