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Two Women Were Harassed At Austin’s Kerbey Lane As Everyone Else Waited For Their Pancakes

Austin’s reputation as Texas’s most progressive city takes another hit.

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One of the prevailing myths of Austin is that the city is a progressive island in the middle of deep-red Texas. And, to be certain, there are more vegan restaurants and Democratic voters in the capital city than there are in, say, Lubbock. But the idea that things like racism and sexism are unusual in Austin gets proven, time and again, to be a myth without much basis in reality.

The latest example occurred at Austin dining institution Kerbey Lane, and quickly went viral. Sirat Al-Nahi and Leilah Abdennabi, who visited Kerbey Lane’s Guadalupe Street location near UT-Austin’s campus on Sunday morning, both wrote about what happened after the encounter. As Al-Nahi wrote on Facebook:

I have never felt more dehumanized and humiliated than I did this morning. Leilah and I went to go grab breakfast at Kerbey Lane Cafe today. She went to park her car and I went to grab us a table. As I’m waiting, this older man begins watching her park through the window, he begins to insult her parking skills and I stay quiet. Then he says, “She should just go back to Saudi Arabia where she came from.” and nobody said anything. I literally couldn’t believe he said that and I asked him to repeat what he had just said. Maybe I should have let it go, maybe I set myself up for this, but I couldn’t believe what he said and I guess I hoped someone would have the humanity to acknowledge it because their silence hurt just as much as his words. But nobody cared when he repeated it and they didn’t care when he added, “And the same goes for you. What? You have a gun in there? Just go ahead and shoot me.” At this point the management got up and came over and proceeded to seat him in a pathetic attempt to deescalate the situation. They chose to seat the racist guy who just made a girl cry right in from them, rather than us. When we spoke to management, they basically said they were sorry it happened, but they can’t do anything. They couldn’t not seat him. The man is across from and watching this whole thing unfold and Leilah goes to talk to him and he says the same things in front of the entire restaurant and nobody says a single thing. As we turn to leave, Leilah, in tears, says, “Just go [sic] everyone knows we were told very racist things and this restaurant doesn’t feel the need to address it because who cares about us?” And somebody called out, “Nobody.” and we left. Because it was true.

Abdennabi added in a separate post that this is the first time that she had experienced Islamophobia in Austin.

We may not be able to agree on much in this country, but surely a majority of Americans can say that harassing young women based on their appearance is rude, aggressive, inappropriate behavior. But the racist man in the story isn’t the only person in it who fails to live up to whatever stories Austin tells itself about its progressivism.

Kerbey Lane CEO mason Ayer wrote a heartfelt apology on the company’s blog on Sunday night, and his message does a good job of standing up for his restaurant’s team—which did make a mistake in how it handled the situation—and taking responsibility as the leader of the company.

It is not the fault of our store leader that she doesn’t know how to handle a heated, hate-filled assault by one of our guests directed at another.  It’s my fault.  It’s my fault because she hasn’t been trained for this situation.  All of our team members understand that racism and intolerance are unacceptable in any context, but as the leader of our organization it’s my responsibility to ensure that in a situation such as this one our store leaders know how to handle the situation in a way that best ensures the safety of our guests and team members while also ensuring an unwelcome patron is removed from the restaurant.  All store leaders and team members, across all locations, will receive this training moving forward.  While I hope another incident like this never occurs at one of our restaurants, it’s imperative that our store leaders know how to properly handle it.

That’s a fine response, and it seems to have stemmed some of the tide of criticism the store has been receiving on social media. But those who focused their outrage at the restaurant and staff were missing another group who let those women down—all of the patrons who sat there waiting on their breakfast in silence.

The store’s manager made a mistake in rushing to seat a customer who was racist and threatening to the restaurant’s other guests, for sure, but the other customers in the restaurant were in a different situation. Patrons didn’t have to consider how to de-escalate a situation in their workplace. Every customer in the restaurant was empowered to speak up on behalf of the women being harassed, but every one of them opted to sit quietly as it happened.

That’s perhaps to be expected. We all like to imagine that in a hostile situation we’d be prepared to stand up for what we believe is right—but when it comes to it, it’s a lot easier to look uncomfortable and wait for it to pass. All of us, not just Kerbey Lane, are able to create our own policies about what we will or will not tolerate from the people around us. The restaurant’s customers—who, on a Sunday morning across from the University of Texas, were probably a lot of bleary-eyed college students nursing hangovers—all decided that their own personal policy was to let this happen in front of them and pretend that it didn’t.

We spend a lot of time talking about how bystanders should react in given situations—the phrase “bystander intervention” is a part of the discourse around campus sexual assault. It’s also part of the argument for campus carry with the suggestion that the same college students who were at Kerbey Lane on Sunday morning should be armed in case they have to step up in a dangerous situation. But what we tend to leave out of that conversation is how our society isn’t built on bystanders stepping up to confront an uncertain situation as it unfolds before us.

That doesn’t excuse the fact that an entire restaurant full of people sat by as two Muslim women were aggressively harassed. Rather, it’s to note that, even in supposedly progressive Austin, we’re good at finding ways to fail the people around us who need our help.

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  • JulieGillis

    Well done.

  • Indiana Pearl

    Many Texans are packing heat. Survival is the name of the game.

    • Jed

      we’ll know we’ve arrived when we start having showdowns in the street with 6-shooters over what somebody called somebody else.

      arrived in the 18th century, that is.

      • Dart

        six shooters were not invented until after the Civil War

        • Jed

          ooh burn. you told me.

          kill anybody today?

          • Dart

            Nope. I don’t own a gun. I just stated a fact. I’m sorry you feel the need to attempt to ridicule me. Please assume positive intent.

          • Saltydog

            “I’m sorry you feel the need to ridicule me” says the a hole who out of the blue ridiculed somebody else.

          • Mike

            Stating facts is ridicule?

          • Saltydog

            I think using a trivial fact to mock somebody who was speaking in metaphor for no reason is ridicule. When six shooters were actually invented doesn’t change the metaphorical point being made that these attitudes are something out of a long past, less civilized era.

            You could use any type of gun and any violent time in history and make the same point. “They want to use assault rifles to blast us back to the middle ages” The literal fact of whether those guns were present in the era mentioned is irrelevant, also time travel is impossible so facts don’t really have any bearing on the comment.

          • Codewizard

            you would have been more accurate in your “facts” if you had pointed out that he said “18th century” which is, of course, the 1700s.

            But you didn’t even get the time of invention correct.

          • Philip J. Fry

            Lol funny how you said something completely factual but because they know you stand for the people’s right to defend themselves, they gang up on you. I don’t care what anyone says, I will splatter the brains of anyone that seeks to do me or my family harm or anyone that seeks to take away my ability to protect what’s mine.

          • Codewizard

            nope you didn’t see my retort.

        • RDU06

          While scrambling for a reply, you missed the point.

          • Keary Botley

            I dont think he missed the point. One undermines one’s own point when said point is a blend of opinion and factual innacuracies. In which case there is seemingly no valid point made for someone else to miss.

        • Leroi

          You need to check your history. Samuel Colt patented a revolver in 1836, 25 years before the Civil War. I remember this from somewhere “When you are looking down on groups of people, it’s more effective if you stick to historical facts to hammer your opinions.”

          • Dart

            Mea culpa. The single action percussion pistol that shot actual bullets or “six shooter” as we know from cowboy movies was developed in the mid to late 1850s, mainly by Smith and Wesson and not in wide use until after the Civil War. The revolver that Colt patented in 1835/1836 was a cap and ball type gun that had to loaded about like a muzzle loader. It was not what one pictures as the gun of the old west when people start having showdowns in the street.
            I’m still trying to figure out why a couple of people felt free to harass me because I noted that someone was talking about six shooters in the 1700s. I haven’t said how I feel about the incident in the cafe in Austin.

          • The Chigger

            As do you- the 1800s were also the 19th century. You get Colt right on the revolver but you didn’t pick up on the easier spot- the “18th century” error by “Jed”.

        • G_David

          That high-pitched scream you just heard was Jed’s point screaming over your pointy head like an F-16 jet. Which comes as no shock to anyone.

          • Dart

            David, thank you for your levity. I won’t fire an easy shot across that bow. I still haven’t figured out why Jed and now you are personally angry with me. I am pissed about the incident recounted in this op-ed, but I’m not mad at any of the posters here.

          • Mike

            How dare you not bow and gurgle the tip and girth of young liberal social justice!!!

        • Alliekitty

          And another hypocrite raises his head

        • Codewizard

          you do realize that the West, was the West until about WW 1, right? Clearly not.

          Sam Colt patents revolver in 1836/7 starts selling them. Civil War starts in April 1861. Hmm.

          > When you are looking down on groups of people, it’s more effective if you stick to
          > historical facts to hammer your opinions.

          yes, maybe you should do that.

          Most used handguns of the Civil War: Colt 1851/60 Army, and Starr revolver. The South also had the Remington 1858. The Colts were the most used though. ALL REVOLVERS.

      • jameson

        19th century

      • Kozmo

        That advanced? I was thinking more like tenth century, at best.

      • Alliekitty

        That’s EXACTLY MY THOUGHT!!! LOL

      • Codewizard

        Won’t happen, liberals are cowards. They will never stand up for anything.

  • Fantasy Maker

    The aggrieved Muslim now

  • jameson

    I am from pakistan and a muslim and the islamophobia i experienced is most ridiculing.
    this makes no sense and is unfair can anything if you insult a muslim you should not be served just like said in social media post Or is this just a social media story reported as fact like me saying i am from pakistan and muslim?. I havent seen or heard anything this offensive since i helped clear the media from the safe spaces at the university of missouri glad texas monthly got the memo and just gave up on journalism altogether and went into the press release social justice public relations gig instead. Its probably easier.

    • borgerboy

      Pakistan? Isn’t that where the terrorist in California was from? So, if you are truly offended, maybe, just maybe you should return to Pakistan .

      • jameson

        Hey borger
        read the whole post…
        What im saying is this is some mean weak ass excuse for journalism. No man not from pak.

        • minime13

          It’s actually really difficult to read your post.

          I believe they have documentation (you know, the little blue links?) within the story itself, and I doubt the CEO of the company would apologize without surveying the management at the restaurant first.

          But seriously, dude. Periods. Complete sentences. It helps.

      • fastfooddiet

        Your ancestors came from Europe, same country where Planned parenthood radical christian shooter ancestors are from. Why don’t you self-deport yourself hillbilly?

        • borgerboy

          My ancestors are NATIVE AMERICAN. And I live in the Texas panhandle. No hills here!

          • Jed

            let me guess. 1/16th cherokee.

          • borgerboy

            3/4 Chickasaw

          • Jed

            interesting. do you often refer to your own parent(s) as your “ancestors?

          • sdrake

            He didn’t. He was talking about his ancestors.

          • Jed

            one of us doesn’t understand genealogy. maybe it’s me.

          • sdrake

            Parents are part of ancestry and genealogy but borgerboy only used the term “ancestors,” which isn’t specific as to parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc.

          • Jed

            3/4 is specific though, to both parents.

          • sdrake

            True.

        • sdrake

          Apparently you’re among the useful idiots for the liberal, mainstream media. The Planned Parenthood shooter is a registered Democrat. So were the last 2 or 3 mass-shooters. The male half of the shooters in San Bernadino described himself as “very liberal” in his dating profile on an online dating sight.

          And do you think all those guys committing violent crime in the most violent cities in the U.S. voted for Romney? Please…

          • Alyssa Burgin

            Too much Fox-News watching. The Planned Parenthood shooter, known for passing out flyers bashing President Obama, was not registered as a Democrat. And what on earth would the San Bernardino shooter declare about himself that could be “liberal”–oh, wait, you didn’t actually READ the profile, you just took someone’s word for it. Critical thinking skills and spelling will take you far, Snake. Oops, I mean, “sdrake.” I’m still laughing over “online dating SIGHT.” Sic.

          • sdrake

            “Too much Fox-News watching.”

            How cliche, libby. Gee, never heard that one before. Sounds like your liberal lame-stream media has failed you. Let me guess- you’re also a femi-narcissist. So, how’s all that hope and change working out for ya? Has your health insurance premium and deductible skyrocketed like everyone else’s? Maybe you like all those ineffective increased gun control laws. By the way, your proctologist called. He said he found your head.

            Now run along and play– big people are talking.

          • SciLaw

            Typical condescending old white male conservative . Get called out for being factually wrong and you double down on your ignorance.

            Now run along and get back in your cave.

          • sdrake

            You don’t know my race or my age so quit your whining, liberoid. Hey, it’s not MY fault your birth certificate is an apology from a condom factory. The inbreeding in your family is certainly obvious in your post.

          • SciLaw

            Hit too close to home? Someone who trolls like you is a disgruntled uneducated white male. As for inbreeding, you’d know all about it.

          • sdrake

            LOL!! I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and crap out a better response than what you came up with!

            Oh, by the way, very few people fake feminizes seriously anymore. Your stupid, selfish movement has run it’s course and the backlash has put you in your place. Deal with it.

          • Underdog1020

            You make yourself look foolish. Just saying. This is coming from someone (me) who really doesn’t like the democratic party. I hope that no one associates you with me.

          • sdrake

            I hope nobody associate me with you either. I have a reputation to maintain.

        • Alliekitty

          Look at the tolerance and peace in this one!

      • Mike

        Well, Pakistan is known for world class gender equality.

        • Politicus Troll

          Well, they did have a female Prime Minister.

          • Mike

            Wasn’t she assassinated?

  • Jed

    you hammer Austin pretty good in this piece, and seem to recognize that the location in question is essentially next door to UT, but you don’t connect the dots.

    UT, full as it is with children of suburban Texas, is quite conservative, compared to, say, Austin. further, having taught at and attended UT for almost a decade all told, i would say of the student body it is one of the most conservative concentrations of college kids i have encountered anywhere (caveat: i haven’t spent time at any bible colleges). UTSA, for example, is worlds different. even a&m is more liberal than its surrounding city.

    i think the bashing is appropriate. not sure you chose the right target.

  • FMAWG

    More Texas shaming from Texass Mumbly. Like the rednecks are not enough. Now you are after the Austin weirdos too. Where yall from anyway?

  • David W Johnson

    Gee maybe if a few muslims would actually speak out against the violence that their religion condones and perpetrates , (of and by the way I’m not talking about name calling) then some folks would actually have some sympathy for them.

    • grumpydog

      If you would take the time to tear yourself away from fox, you would see numerous representatives of Muslim orginizations, nationwide, doing exactly that. If you choose to not see the truth, that is a lie you are telling yourself.

      • Jim Wilson

        Ummm, where? Are you referencing Hamas, I mean, CAIR? I watch CNN and I don’t think I’ve seen anything but crocodile tears regarding California. Haven’t seen anything on ABC, CBS or NBC either. Throwing Fox out there is seriously lame when you have no clue what anyone watches but you’re a grumpydog so I guess that says it all.

        • Lol,Inc.

          This is from the first page of a google search “examples of muslims against extremism”:

          50 million Indonesian Muslims : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/indonesian-muslims-counter-isis_565c737ae4b072e9d1c26bda

          King Abdullah of Jordan: http://www.thetower.org/2587-king-abdullah-of-jordan-we-are-facing-a-third-world-war/

          Chicago Muslims fighting back against extremism: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-muslim-youth-outreach-met-20150116-story.html

          Muslim scholars denouncing extremism: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/muslim-scholars-islamic-state_n_5878038.html

          While the hostage drama was still unfolding at the Lindt Chocolate Café in Sydney, Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohamed, the country’s highest Islamic office holder, said he felt devastated by the attack,commenting:

          ‘The Grand Mufti and the Australian National Imams Council condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part and in whole in Islam.”

          There are plenty of Muslims against it, but it’s not very newsworthy when people preach for peace.

          • Jim Wilson

            The problem is anything uttered by Hamas-supported CAIR or most “imams” is innuendo and deflection.

            http://www.investigativeproject.org/5032/the-facade-in-cair-paris-attacks-condemnation

            If you really want to learn about a wolf in sheep’s clothing…

            http://www.investigativeproject.org/profile/172/the-council-on-american-islamic-relations-cair

            I have heard enough testimony on C-SPAN in various committees and other reliable sources to convince me that Islam is hardly a benign religion but rather a socio-political cult that works like a subversive government without borders toward the goal of inflicting Sharia law upon every living being. And don’t even get me started on all the despicable things Muhammed did in life.

            For Star Trek fans, they’re basically the Borg; assimilate or die. That’s the truth and the real takeaway.

            http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

          • godblessstexas

            Islam is a political, social, cultural engine masked in religion. The goal of every Muslim is to create a world caliphate. That caliphate would sacrifice every other government, society, culture and religion on the face of the earth. There is no assimilation by Muslims into any other people. There is no diversity in Islam. They are the Borg, resistance is futile.

          • arabylilac

            That is such an ignorant statement.

          • Alliekitty

            Really? Where is your home mosque?

          • Walt Longmire

            The only one on the list that puts action to his words is King Abdullah of Jordan. The rest of your citations are but extremist Muslim organizations [CAIR, et al] whose military mission is to attempt to mollify people in the country where the attack took place. It is war by public relations. Have the killers kill people and then pose some who will appear to criticize them. This kind of deception is sanctioned by the Quran, so it is to be expected.

            The “moderate” Islam is a figment of the liberal mind. Everywhere in the world Muslim is killing Muslims of a different sect, and that sect then kills others of a third sect, then that third sect kills others of yet another minority sect. Wash, repeat, is the motto of Islam. Then they all kill the infidels. The one most central tenet of Islam would appear to be murder. Stop the deceit and deception, Muslims. History and statistics prove unequivocally what Islam is about — and it is not religion.

          • arabylilac

            on your words let this rest, Read From the Bible

            God Will Kill Ethiopia
            “You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword,” says the LORD. And the LORD will strike the lands of the north with his fist. He will destroy Assyria and make its great capital, Nineveh, a desolate wasteland, parched like a desert. The city that once was so proud will become a pasture for sheep and cattle. All sorts of wild animals will settle there. Owls of many kinds will live among the ruins of its palaces, hooting from the gaping windows. Rubble will block all the doorways, and the cedar paneling will lie open to the wind and weather. This is the fate of that boisterous city, once so secure. “In all the world there is no city as great as I,” it boasted. But now, look how it has become an utter ruin, a place where animals live! Everyone passing that way will laugh in derision or shake a defiant fist. (Zephaniah 2:12-15 NLT)

            An Angry Jealous God

            “I have wiped out many nations, devastating their fortress walls and towers. Their cities are now deserted; their streets are in silent ruin. There are no survivors to even tell what happened. I thought, ‘Surely they will have reverence for me now! Surely they will listen to my warnings, so I won’t need to strike again.’ But no; however much I punish them, they continue their evil practices from dawn till dusk and dusk till dawn.” So now the LORD says: “Be patient; the time is coming soon when I will stand up and accuse these evil nations. For it is my decision to gather together the kingdoms of the earth and pour out my fiercest anger and fury on them. All the earth will be devoured by the fire of my jealousy. “On that day I will purify the lips of all people, so that everyone will be able to worship the LORD together. My scattered people who live beyond the rivers of Ethiopia will come to present their offerings. (Zephaniah 3:6-10 NLT)

          • arabylilac

            RINSE WASH REPEAT!

            Hammer Tent Peg Into Head

            Meanwhile, Sisera ran to the tent of Jael, the wife of Heber the Kenite, because Heber’s family was on friendly terms with King Jabin of Hazor. Jael went out to meet Sisera and said to him, “Come into my tent, sir. Come in. Don’t be afraid.” So he went into her tent, and she covered him with a blanket. “Please give me some water,” he said. “I’m thirsty.” So she gave him some milk to drink and covered him again. “Stand at the door of the tent,” he told her. “If anybody comes and asks you if there is anyone here, say no.” But when Sisera fell asleep from exhaustion, Jael quietly crept up to him with a hammer and tent peg. Then she drove the tent peg through his temple and into the ground, and so he died. When Barak came looking for Sisera, Jael went out to meet him. She said, “Come, and I will show you the man you are looking for.” So he followed her into the tent and found Sisera lying there dead, with the tent peg through his temple. So on that day Israel saw God subdue Jabin, the Canaanite king. And from that time on Israel became stronger and stronger against King Jabin, until they finally destroyed him. (Judges 4:17-24 NLT)

            http://www.evilbible.com/Evil%20Bible%20Quotes.htm

            Shall we judge all Christians and Jews based on these verses? If so, then we must look at them with your condemnation and despise them in the same way, right?
            RINSE WASH REPEAT???

            RIGHT?

          • Alliekitty

            This is a historical story from millenia, Not a commandment . Irrelevant.

          • Alliekitty

            So? That is a history lesson from millenia. What dies that have to do with evolving from that mentality as christians did through jesus??

          • Alliekitty

            Yet if you use that same Google to research “muslims insulted by Obama” you can see that muslims were insulted by Obamas speech asking them to look in their own ranks for terrorists. Cherry picking should remain in the cherry grove.

        • tehdef
      • David W Johnson

        I tend to watch local new and read local new papers and Magazines and as such I have yet to see such actions by the Muslim community, much as I have yet to see Baptists decrying the tactics of the Westboro Baptist Church.

        • Alliekitty

          Also christians stand between Westboro and intended targets. THAT is action

    • Robert Baden

      Did you condemn the Christian terrorist who shot those people at Planned Parenthood?

      • jameson

        Its not just christians who equate late term abortion with murder

        • Asher B. Garber

          In the Jewish religion, one isn’t considered a Person until one is born, as opposed to being conceived. Ergo, the Jewish law has no problem with Planned Parenthood.

          Maybe the Buddhists are shooting up the PPs, but let’s get real. These are Christian men going after the doctors.

          • Kozmo

            Excellent point. Jewish organizations seem to hold their polite silence on abortion issues — they probably feel they don’t need yet more animosity directed toward them — but their faith permits abortions, even advocates them if the mother’s life is endangered. A woman’s life is held to a higher priority than a fetus. Anti-abortionists would go bananas if they knew this more widely.

          • Jed

            if it meant we never again have to hear the phrase “judeo-christian values,” i’d be for it.

          • Walt Longmire

            …because you are an atheist. The Judeo-Christian values brought civilization to a dying world. Now the atheist dead a bringing death back. You must love those killer Muslims.

          • Jed

            judeo-christian values – if there were such a thing – would include muslims. all three religions worship the same god and have the same historical roots.

            but when americans use the term, they just mean “white people values.” witness your own comment as exhibit A. “white people values” is equally meaningless, but it does have the virtue of being racist.

          • Alliekitty

            Haaaas

          • Alliekitty

            Exactly. Jewish is NOT christian.

          • Jed

            that was not my point.

          • Walt Longmire

            They are NOT Christian men at all! They violate every tenet of Christianity, and even if they claim they are they are in fact posers and liars. Since you obviously don’t know what a Christian is, it is difficult to talk with you. You are as nut-ball as those murderers.

            Jesus was not a pacifist, as he once himself physically threw the money changers out of the Temple. But he taught his disciples to “put away your swords, for he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.” It is a perverse notion that a Christian can kill another when the main central tenet is “Thou shalt not kill.” So, if you kill, you are not a Christian, period. You are a liar.

          • Asher B. Garber

            Okay, Walt. I take your definition of Christian over mine. Is it fair to say that there are many self-proclaimed Christians who feel that assassinating abortion doctors (including the Jewish guy as he lit candles with his family) are actions for the faith?

          • Jed

            or who fight in the military?

          • Walt Longmire

            Put simply, yes. Show me now where this dude claimed to be a Christian who decided to kill a group of people at an abortion clinic. I saw nothing of the sort. That was all added by the Christophobes who hate Christians. How many abortion doctors have been killed? Could you list them here? More than 14, the number of people killed in San Bernadino? More than 3,000, the approximate number of people killed by violent Islamic people in 011? More than the soldiers killed by the Islamic “counselor” at Fort Hood?

            First, the so-called Christian connection is very slim, mostly non-existent. But the same cannot be said of Islam, who call out “Allah Ackbar!” as they proceed to slaughter women and children and innocent folks at a theater.

            I would not say there were “many” self-proclaimed Christians who have committed terrorist acts. Less than 5, I think, and it is questionable whether their religion was a motivating factor. They did not go about killing while yelling “Jesus is Lord.”

          • sdrake

            You are correct, and the interesting thing is the mainstream media has suggested that most of these mass-shooters are right-wing when they are, in fact, mostly left-wing. By the way, the male shooter in San Bernadino described himself as “very liberal” in his dating profile on an online dating website.

          • Asher B. Garber

            Now you’re being silly, Walt. Mr. Dear is directly associated with Operation Rescue. Operation Rescue was also directly in contact with the Atlanta Olympics bomber. Drs. Slepian and Tiller were also murdered by folks who were doing this to save lives because of Jesus. Whether they’re demented or not from the “real Christians” is a point to take. But now you’ve turned that around to challenge the real connections? No, Walt. That doesn’t work for me.

            I trust Southern Poverty Law Center over you.

          • Alliekitty

            Please show quotes because you are just muttering opinionated rhetoric and suppositions

          • Alliekitty

            Many??? How many??? Did that one man shout “in the name of jesus!” As he murdered a large group of people? Apples to apples pls.

          • Asher B. Garber

            Psycho

          • Alliekitty

            Yes…you are…but that still doesn’t answer my question. You have zero proof that christians slaughter anyone in the name of jesus but keep on believing your own mind trash. We wouldn’t want you to think critically about anything. Your brain might explode.

          • Chaveevah Banks Ferguson

            so…since he didn’t shout “in the name of jesus”, he couldn’t POSSIBLY be a christian, right?

          • Alliekitty

            Unless they kill IN THE NAME OF JESUS you cannot decide “they” whoever you are referring to….which historically must be one or two decreasing over the years rather than ongoing increasing attacks like fort hood and cali in the name of allah…. are christians

          • Asher B. Garber

            How about in the name of babies? Babies who don’t exist because they are fetuses while at Planned Parenthood.

            Whacko

          • Alliekitty

            Lol. Stoop to name calling and diversion tactics because you can’t come up with a shred of evidence to support your claims. Thats good. Stay in your lala land you make up in your head. You will probably be the next liberal on a suicide mission.

      • Walt Longmire

        He did not claim to be a Christian, and he uttered nothing that would indicate that he was. Every single Christian person and organization in America condemned that action. Please try to make a proper distinction between Christendom and true Christianity. Consult the philosopher/theologian Kierkegaard on the meanings of both. No one heard that stupid thug cry out, “Jesus is Great! Jesus is Great!” He was an odd-ball, and everyone who knew him seemed to know that. He is a nut job.

        • tehdef

          What is true Christianity? The dude who runs a mega church, is tax exempt and has 3 jets?

          Religion is a crock. Your only defense against the fact God doesn’t exist is that “we can’t prove it.”

          I was always told the onus is on the individual to prove something exists, much like Science.

          • Alliekitty

            Christianity is not a religion. Thats your problem. Religions are man made about God not by God. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. So unless you find they were doing all of that and shouting J
            “I KILL YOU For JESUS!!” You can’t really call them christian. Hitler self professed Christianity as well as kkk. Yet they hid from and even killed christians by misinterpreting the bible. We’ve evolved. Why go backwards with people who haven’t yet.

          • sdrake

            Just because something cannot be proven doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Until the earth was proven to be round it was thought to be flat. In ancient times, nobody was able to prove that the earth was round but did that mean the earth wasn’t round?

          • tehdef

            Rofl, what? You’ve had thousands of years to prove this dude exists, and you haven’t.

            You’ve been conned.

            Don’t you find it hilarious that the person you worship is typically based on who your parents worship or where they were raised?

            Isn’t is funny that based on which major region you live in your God is different?

            God isn’t real, dude.

          • sdrake

            It also took thousands of years to prove the existence of a round earth, electricity and other galaxies. So what? Who puts a time limit on when science will discover or prove a particular thing? And who decides what that time limit is? You? LMAO!! Science can only move as fast as it can. And maybe science, with all its limitations, will NEVER prove the existence of God. So what?

            By the way, try telling a person who has a personal experience with his/her creator that God doesn’t exist. Good luck.

      • David W Johnson

        Yes actually I did, as well as the extremist in Georgia who bombed the clinic there years ago,

      • MikeD

        Did you condemn these liberal democrats?

        – Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
        – Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg­istered Democrat and Muslim.
        – Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
        – Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
        – James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu­py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
        – James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
        – Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
        – Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
        – Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
        – Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
        – Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.
        – Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy…

        • Indiana Pearl

          You cannot prove these relationships. It’s right-wing hate radio trash.

          • Walt Longmire

            No it’s not. Most of that is true and can be verified through normal historical accounts available online. I don’t like the designation “Democrat,” for I am one of those [I call myself a Safe Harbor Democrat, one who holds to the traditional views of my father’s Democratic party of yesteryear, but denying two obnoxious tenets of today’s Democrats, abortion and homosexuality]. I would prefer the word “leftist” or “liberal,” as there are many like myself who would never agree to those noxious policies. Obama is more an extreme leftist than a Democrat.

          • Asher B. Garber

            Obama is an extreme leftist? Oh, Walt, I’m afraid you’re a total kook and complete whack job.

            Which reminds me, some White Male Christians (like you!) think that shooting up Planned Parenthood is gonna get them to Heaven.

          • MikeD

            Asher, your the kook that drinks the cool-aid and follows the party line. Wasn’t Obama nothing more than a community organizer who followed the teachings of Saul Alinsky? According to biographer Sanford Horwitt, U.S. President Barack Obama was influenced by Alinsky and followed in his footsteps as a Chicago-based community organizer. Horwitt asserted that Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign was influenced by Alinsky’s teachings. I guess your not familiar with the book rules for radicals?

          • Asher B. Garber

            You sound so sane, MikeD. And not at all obsessed with conspiracies. Because you don’t drink Kool-Aid. No sir. You deliver it like Mr. Jones.

          • sdrake

            What Mike said is true and historical fact. Smarten up, libby.

          • Alliekitty

            Please stop saying things with nothing to back it up. Please show any christians who have attacked planned parenthood shouting im doing this for jesus with proof. Thanks.

          • Asher B. Garber

            Please read the full message thread. Operation Rescue is a Christian organization. Now, are you going to shout them down? Thanks.

          • sdrake

            The inbreeding in your family is certainly obvious in your posts.

          • Asher B. Garber

            Someone here is broadcasting wider than the IMAX theater at the Bullock Museum.

          • sdrake

            And somebody else is drinking a s*#t-load of Kool-Aid. You need to turn off your liberal, mainstream media news channels, which you are simply parroting. You’ve become a zombie.

          • Asher B. Garber

            How am I parroting them? You sound a little unhinged. Like when you broadcasted to us that you sleep with your sister. That has very little to do with my “mainstream liberal ideas” whatever they are.

            Alex Jonesians are the biggest whackos ever. Congrats.

          • sdrake

            I never said I sleep with my sister, liar. However, I would like to know if there is any truth to the rumor that the best of you ran down your mother’s legs. Please clarify.

            Your comments about white male Christians is EXACTLY the sort of tired regurgitations we hear from the useful idiots for the mainstream media. The recent San Bernadino incident recently, for example, had commentators from the left-wing media saying the shooters must be right-wing extremists. I heard them. And they said it before the facts were even out. Of course, the fact made fools of those stupid lefties. You sound just like them.

          • Asher B. Garber

            Like I said, you broadcast wider than the IMAX at the Bullock Museum. Do you know what that means?

            Poor anonymous you. Such a boob.

            And stop shtupping your sister. Gross.

          • sdrake

            I don’t have a sister, you filthy excrement. Now breath in the other direction. You’re bleaching my hair, liberoid.

            You are literally too stupid to insult. Everyone on this thread is now dumber from reading your posts.

            By the way, your proctologist called. He said he found your head.

          • Asher B. Garber

            Wait… If I’m too stupid to insult, then what are you doing? Do you actually have a point?

            No, Anonymous Dipstick. You don’t.

          • sdrake

            I meant that you’re too stupid for me to waste my time on anymore. Ta-ta, cretin.

          • Asher B. Garber

            So you’re taking time to tell me this? Do you know what Stupid is?

          • sdrake

            Okay, I’ll indulge your ego one last time. Yes, I know what stupid is. It’s liberals, feminists and people like you whose egos are so fragile, they simply must have the last word. Take the last word, I’m sure your ego will declare it a victory. You’ll forgive me, though, for not bothering to read it.

          • Asher B. Garber

            My ego? I’m just the dude you’re blabbing a bunch of bullshit at.

            Like I said. You project wider than the IMAX at Bob Bullock. Do you get that? So far I’ve gathered that you’re an ego driven incest loving weirdo. That’s not me talking.

          • sdrake

            Yeah, that’s it, stick your head in the sand. These are all documented and factual. Everybody knows Oswald, for example, was a left-wing radical. Smarten up.

          • MikeD

            Can you disprove them?

          • Alliekitty

            Lol wow. Prove it.

      • sdrake

        He is a registered democrat.

      • Alliekitty

        Lmao. Please show ANY evidence that that Democrat voting nut job killed in the NAME of jesus. Or Christianity ANY SHRED.

    • Les2011

      Moslem leaders have spoken out against it, as have ordinary Moslems.

      • David W Johnson

        perhaps they need to do so in Austin

    • minime13

      That’s really arrogant.

      • David W Johnson

        perhaps but still true

        • minime13

          how do you figure? It’s not one person’s responsibility to claim ownership or condemnation over someone else.

          • David W Johnson

            considering that the jest of the article was that no one in the restaurant came to the aid of these folks being verbally condemned by one person, I would say that it’s pretty evident many there shared the same opinion. The true test is not what one opines on a forum behind a keyboard but what one does in action.

          • minime13

            The gist of the article was that people saw an injustice right in front of their face and failed to respond. The gist of the post I was responding to demands all Muslims condemn attacks from other Muslims simply because they are Muslim. There’s not a comparison here.

          • MikeD

            “people saw an injustice right in front of their face and failed to respond.” Kind of like Obama letting ISIS grow and kill thousands of people all while denying they are a threat? (JV Team, contained, blah, blah, blah)

    • José

      So, you condone insulting random strangers based on preconceived notions of what they believe? That’s what this incident was about. It’s sort of cowardly to change the subject like you did. Not a very good reflection on your race or religion.

      • David W Johnson

        I did not change the subject, the article seems to be about no one saying anything when these folks perceived that they were be harassed because of their faiths, I asserted that their faith does not garner much sympathy from others at this time.

        • José

          The article was about two women who wanted nothing more than to order food at a restaurant like anyone else. And a jerk who abused them publicly without provocation or cause. And a restaurant manager who mishandled the situation by kowtowing to the abuser. Oh yes, there was some about no one else having the character for defending these people against unwarranted attacks. And yet you’re willing to let the abuser and the enablers go along without criticism while accepting that innocent people should expect attacks for what they did not do. That’s warped.

          I’m old enough to remember when Texans were known for being friendly, and when society was blessed by having folks look out for each other.

          • David W Johnson

            I’m old enough to remember when most Texans did not know the tenets of Islam and what their religion holds as commands.

          • José

            As this bigoted abusive fellow shows there are still a lot of Texans who remain ignorant about Islam. No sympathy for them.

          • Alliekitty

            You 9bviouusky don’t know that these women wanted attention more than food because THEY confronted a possibly senile old man who was taking to his companion, not to them until she confronted him and yelled at him to repeat it. Any lady would have said, “you know nothing about me, but I’m going to exemplify my religion of peace and move on” and I bet that would have been the end of it. Activists like her won’t do that thought be a use they want attention to their cause more than food. If they wanted to eat they’d have let it go like the man did instead of beligerantly stalking across the restaurant to confront him again.

          • José

            You’re right. I obviously don’t know those things. And you probably don’t either.
            Were you there? Did you watch this entire incident unfold, from start to finish? Or is your accounting based on something that you read on Breibart?
            And did you actually pass English class in high school?

          • Alliekitty

            No. I actually did my own research and have at my disposal that letter that the “friend” parking the car wrote…it was online under her name. So any smug and assumptive questioning regarding if I got my info from a source that is just as credible as anything huffpo or washpo throw out ……which is also often opinion and based on pure conjecture from what they read from other opinion news on the internet, is a moot point. I got it straight from the horses mouth. Your sad attempt to look smart by questioning my English skills only makes you look an imbecile yourself. Have fun googling the definition. And try to follow along.

        • José

          I’m still trying to understand why someone would use the word “sympathy” in this thread. Twice, in fact. What are you suggesting that folks are being asked to sympathize with? Their religion? Their culture? Their political beliefs? Dude, none of that was brought into this incident except through the imagination of a bigoted coot. If we should sympathize with these people about anything it’s the expectation of being able to order pancakes and eat them peaceably like everyone else in the place. Because, why not? And if you can’t sympathize with someone merely wanting to enjoy a hot stack of flapjacks then there’s something awfully wrong with you.

    • tehdef

      https://www.launchgood.com/project/muslims_united_for_san_bernardino

      Yeah, Muslims don’t speak out.

      Stop being a bigot and narrow minded.

      As a white person I dont expect myself or other white people to speak out against violence when another white person hurts someone else.

      I just call them an idiot and move on.

    • Mike

      I’m Muslim, I used to say to you what everyone else is saying to you, groups do speak out bla bla bla but I realized something after terrorist groups got stronger and the bodies started pilling up. Muslim groups speaking out against terrorism is the equivalent to the NRA speaking out after mass shooting, it means nothing.

      It’s just a copied and pasted message, they have their draft ready for when it happens again and it WILL HAPPEN AGAIN because the Muslim community not only does NOTHING to fight the root cause of radicalization which is inside our faith but activity attacks Muslims trying to reform Islam into the 21st century, calling them sell outs and Muslim Uncle Toms.

      Until the Muslim nations and communities actually TRY to stop the cause of radicalization and clamp down on this extremism happening in their countries, it’ll keep happening in ours. Hopefully Ultra liberals learn this soon and I’m saying all this has a person whose voted for Obama twice.

      If you’re interested in what some reformers are doing I recommend checking out Maajid Nawaz and Asra Q. Nomani.

      • David W Johnson

        Mike a reply I can respect, thank you, for saying what so many are afraid to.

  • Asher B. Garber

    This is an ugly incident on par with the ugly incident of 11/13 when students chanted Long Live the Intifada at the Israeli professor from Stanford because he’s an Israeli. The Intifada, if anyone is interested, happens to be the Palestinian uprising that has seen actions such as blowing up bus lines (the 1st Intifada), blowing up pizzerias and dance clubs (the 2nd Intifada), and, currently, stabbing people in the street/ running them over with cars/ shoot at Jews in drive-bys (the 3rd Intifada).

    I believe 11/13 was also the date of the Million Student March on campus which associated high education costs with the role of Zionism on campus. You know, Jews=Money and stuff. According to the Chron which interviewed these students, poverty wages, sexism, and the Palestinian condition is all “inextricably related.”

    Hatred sucks, and there’s a whole lot of it out there.

  • Jim Wilson

    Muslim is not a race. Muslims can and will be any skin color and any nationality.

    Prejudicial is the correct word. Look it up.

  • Artstrada Magazine

    Fear and Ignorance .. it is cancer. The managerial response was dead-on. A great cancer killer.

  • Rowland Williams

    When did this happen? Not the restaurant thing, but this backward shift in America? I’m 54 years old and was media savvy pretty young. And I grew up thinking we had gotten past the ignorant treatment of innocent people because of their religion or skin color. I guess I was naive. Or shielded. I’m white, middle class, well-educated. Was that all it took for someone who gives a damn about these things to be left in the dark? Have phone cameras and the internet revealed things that were there all the time? Or has this gotten worse? Have we gotten worse?

    And when I see how the conservatives I know speak of Obama, and how they spoke of him and the suspicions they had of him before he was ever sworn in (one friend of a friend said to me a couple weeks before his inauguration, “I’m surprised no one has tried to assassinate him yet” in a disappointed tone), I can’t help but wonder if that was the turning point. Or was it Clinton before him, whom the GOP itself demonized out of fear they were losing their newly acquired southern voters? Or was it Reagan, who ripped middle class voters up from their comfortable roots and told them he was setting them free as he tossed them aside — was he that good a liar that they still believe him now 20 years dead? Whatever it was that hardened our hearts, if we don’t find a way to rediscover our decency and search for those things that unite us, we’re going to fall apart. And it will be ugly and slow and bloody. It will be something we never imagined could happen here. And it begins with hatred for people we’ve never met.

    • CarlaD

      Very well said. Thank you.

    • Walt Longmire

      People who show up at a party with AR-15s are not “innocents,” dude. I am offended by the Muslim who kills 14 people because he is angry at his country and has married a radical Islamist murderer. Yep, that is offensive to me.

      • Indiana Pearl

        I am also offended by the white Christian who shows up at a Planned Parenthood clinic and kills a dozen people or one who shoots eight people at a bible study class.

        • sdrake

          There is no evidence that the Planned Parenthood shooter was a Christian. The only thing we know about him for sure is that he is a registered democrat. So were most of the mass-shooters of the recent past. The shooter in San Bernadino? Described himself as “very liberal.”

          • pleasebereasonable

            Except for statements from his ex wife, and photos of a cross nailed to his cabin…..

          • sdrake

            HIs ex-wife? Now THERE’S a reliable source of information!

          • pleasebereasonable

            1st hand info…. but keep denying that he plays for your team if it makes you feel better.

          • sdrake

            Look- even if he is a Christian, there is absolutely no proof that his faith had anything to do with his behavior. What HAS been proven is that he is a deranged individual.

            Most violent crime in the U.S. is committed by lefties, by the way, including gun crime.

          • pleasebereasonable

            Please. I don’t doubt that he is deranged, but his anti-baby killing stance has clearly been influenced by his Christian beliefs….. He was even quoted as saying he could do what he wanted because Jesus would forgive him. Its fine that you don’t want him on your team, I wouldn’t either, but a fact is a fact. Sorry, this one is all yours.

          • sdrake

            You don’t know what influenced his anti-baby killing stance. I’m not formally a Christian but I also don’t like the unborn being killed. Your statement is pure speculation. I would like to see a reliable source that verifies the statement you say he made. Until then, stop confusing speculation and propaganda with facts.

          • pleasebereasonable

            Your head is either in the sand or up your ass.

          • sdrake

            In other words, you have no reliable source that can back up your statement. Typical liberoid. Converse with plankton lately?

          • pleasebereasonable

            Idiot, 1) His wife. 2) His own statements that he could do anything he wants because jebus would forgive him. You are being purposefully obtuse. It takes no effort ( and minimal brain activity) to see the connection between his anti-baby killing murderous ways and his Xstain beliefs. You denials can’t erase the obvious truth. But I get it. I wouldn’t want the guy on my side either. Don’t take it personally. I’m sure his actions are not a reflection of your jebus love.

          • sdrake

            Again, you provide no link or reference to a reliable source to corroborate with your claims. Your source of information is probably derived from some left-wing rag.

            Now, either put up or shut up, lefty. Your continuous babbling will not get you any respect from me. It will only get you ignored.

          • pleasebereasonable

            “One person who spoke with him extensively about his religious views said Mr. Dear, who is 57, had praised people who attacked abortion providers, saying they were doing “God’s work.”

            http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/us/robert-dear-planned-parenthood-shooting.html

            Boom.

          • sdrake

            I said a “reliable source,” not a left-wing newspaper that’s readership has deteriorated so badly that it’s likely to go under.

            But I’ll humor you. This paragraph comes from the article you linked to:

            “He claims to be a Christian and is extremely evangelistic, but does not follow the Bible in his actions,” Ms. Micheau said in the court document. “He says that as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases. He is obsessed with the world coming to an end.”

            So, if the killer doesn’t follow the Bible in his actions, how can he be much of a Christian? You’ve been trying to blame Christianity for the behavior of a few nut cakes. but you said yourself, “I don’t doubt that he is deranged, but his anti-baby killing stance has clearly been influenced by his Christian beliefs…..”

            Well, if he’s deranged and doesn’t follow the Bible in his actions, why are you calling him a Christian and blaming Christianity? This is the sort of liberal hypocrisy and liberal logic that has people laughing at libs.

          • pleasebereasonable

            Gurl please, you are laughably predictable. So “reliable” is what, WND?

            YOU: “There is no evidence that the Planned Parenthood shooter was a Christian”

            EVIDENCE: “saying they were doing “God’s work.”, “He claims to be a Christian and is extremely evangelistic” & actual photos of Xtain symbolism nailed to his cabin.

            Adequate and verifiable. Nothing else is required. Your No True Scottsman bullshit doesn’t fly.

            “You’ve been trying to blame Christianity for the behavior of a few nut cakes”. Don’t take it so personally main, I said that clearly his religious beliefs, which ARE Xtian (sorry gurl, I know you don’t want him but you got him), have influenced his behavior just at those San Bernardino murders were influenced by theirs (or are you willing to apply the same standard?….didn’t think so).

            Not an indictment of all Xtains or Muslims, just the plain old truth. Were all influenced by insanity? Remains to be seen, but unequivocally influence by their respective religious beliefs, albeit taken to an extreme.

            ” liberal logic that has people laughing at libs”.

            Get back to me after you’ve googled no true scottsman, argumentum ad hominem & argumentum ad nauseam and we can talk about logic……….Bye Felicia.

          • sdrake

            Gurl? I’m a man, Felicia. By the way, you misspelled “girl.” Twice. “main?” I think you meant “man.”

            The shooters in San Bernadino were just like every other Muslim who has attacked the U.S. They were mentally stable but misguided. Big difference when you have a deranged individual who’s so whacked out that he doesn’t even practice his own religion according to the tenants (in this case the Planned Parenthood shooter).

            Once again, I laugh at your false equivalence and lack of insight, reliable source of information and logic.

            Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, poops on the board and then struts around like it won the game.

            To be honest with you, I find you too stupid to insult anymore. Everyone on this thread is now dumber from reading your posts. I’m done with this.

          • Brocephus

            Dude… you’re going to reject any source anyone brings to the table that disputes your anti-left agenda. But you’re unbiased? I think not bunky.

          • sdrake

            The N.Y. Times is a known left-wing publication, “Bunky.” Deal with it, “Dude.”

          • Brocephus

            Any publication that doesn’t agree with your agenda is ‘left-wing’. What? You’re balanced? You think you’re fooling anybody? I’ll say it again… child please!

          • sdrake

            No, the New York Times is left-leaning with or without my opinion of the quality of the publication and it’s readership base is dwindling terribly. That is a fact. It’s likely to go under if it doesn’t get its act together.

            “Child please” makes no grammatical sense. You’re either missing some punctuation or leaving out an adverb or something. Perhaps you mean, “Child, please!” Or “Child!” Please!

            It’s hard to take your comments seriously when you appear to have a 3rd-grade education.

          • Brocephus

            It’s called literary license dumbarse… ever hear of it? I din’t think so. A third grade education is more effective than a phd in a brain-dead fool. It’s not surprising that you don’t take me seriously – you haven’t the capacity.

          • sdrake

            Typical excuse-making liberoid. Inserting commas here and there where they belong takes almost no effort. The truth is you don’t KNOW where they belong so stop blaming it on literary license, “dumbarse.” You’re not fooling me or any other educated conservative on this thread.

            You must have eaten paint chips when you were a kid.

          • Brocephus

            Educated conservative? Ha! Thar’s an oxford-moron dude.

          • sdrake

            A true oxymoron would be “intelligent liberal.” By the way, don’t forget the comma between “moron” and “dude.” It should read like this: Ha! That’s an oxford-moron, dude.

            Now get out of your grandmother’s basement and go get a job.

          • Brocephus

            That’s why real writers have editors goob.

          • sdrake

            Anybody with a 3rd grade education knows basic punctuation so I’m not impressed with your liberal excuses. You people are notorious for not taking personal responsibility.

          • Brocephus

            You got the idea… so stop yer whining ya putz (he who has no argument resorts to punctuation) .

          • sdrake

            Oh, please. Every single one of my arguments has been solid. You’ve provided nothing but juvenile trolling, ad homonyms and lousy punctuation. Get off of welfare and find a job, freeloader.

          • Brocephus

            Solid arguments… you? LOL!

          • sdrake

            I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and crap out a better comeback than what you just said!

            For a guy who told me I’m “easy to ignore” you sure seem like you’ve got a man crush on me.

            You present absolutely no challenge to me. You have no facts, no wit and are, frankly, painfully boring. I’m done with you, cretin.

          • Brocephus

            No you’re not ya dumb schmuk – no way you’re going to let me get the last word. I’ve kicked your fat arse all over this thread, and you’re ready to quit, but you just can’t. Word of advice: it will go better for you if you do…

          • Brocephus

            Ad hominem (yeah, I know bubba).

          • wessexmom

            Where are you getting your news? The shooter in San Bernadino was a jihadist and a gun nut, so he could not have been “very liberal”. Please provide a link to the news source where you read that. Otherwise we’ll assume you made it up.

          • sdrake
          • Brocephus

            Not as many as right wingers dude… child please!

          • sdrake

            I never made a statement saying who has the most guns between the left and the right. You missed the point of my post. The other commenter asked me to provide some links to back up my statement and I did.

            Buy the overwhelming majority of violent crimes committed, with or without guns is people from the left. You think the average street thug in Chicago, Miami, LA., Oakland, etc. were Romney or Sara Palin supporters?

            Do educate yourself, libby.

          • Brocephus

            Right wingers have (and use) WAY more guns than left wingers (no Bunky – street thugs don’t qualify as right or left – they’re too stupid to know the dif).

          • sdrake

            So post a link to support your absurd assertion that proves who has the most guns.

            It doesn’t matter who owns more anyway. What matters is who most often uses them in the commission of a crime. And that is overwhelming people from the left. They don’t have to be smart or have an agenda to be left-leaning. Those thugs are definitely left-leaning.

          • Brocephus

            Still positing street thugs and other such criminals as left-wingers eh? Well of course you are. Like these people think about politics… Please girl, they are barely capable of thinking at all beyond their next fix or territorial conquest – you give them way too much credit. But it’s hardly surprising… most right-wing nuts do suffer from extreme myopia – to the point of blindness. Sheesh.

          • sdrake

            It doesn’t matter how stupid they are. Survey them. Ask them who they’d vote for in the next election and virtually everyone of them would say they’d vote for Hilary. Why? because candidates on the left, with their liberal policies, are the ones who keep people poor with their handouts, and the poor represent the largest segment of street thugs.

            96% of the black vote went to Obama in 2012 and 2008 and blacks, per capita, commit the highest percentage of violent crimes of any race in the U.S. Look it up. It’s also the cities like Chicago, L.A., Miami, D.C., Oakland, etc., where the most incidents of violent crime occurs. All of these cities are run by, say it with me, Brocephus, DEMOCRATS.

            The blindness is all yours, libby. And ignorance is worse than stupidity because its intentional.

          • Brocephus

            All you can do is parrot my insults bunky. Can’t you come up with anything original? I’m sure you attribute the statistics regarding your perceived disproportionate instance of black crime to race – just like the rest of your right-wing-nut bigot comrades too – ya goober.

          • sdrake

            The citizens in those cities I mentioned are largely Democrats and other left-leaning individuals. Again, look it up if you don’t believe me. Why do you think those city governments are made up of all Democrats? Again, look it up.

            Are you trying to convince me that the very, very few conservatives living in those cities ban together and perpetrate more violent crime than all those lefty violent criminals? ROTFLMAO!!

            It’s too bad your obsessive need to live a life of political correctness will not allow you to acknowledge the truth about which demographics commit the largest segments of violent crimes. You’re the poster child for what’s wrong with this country.

          • Brocephus

            I’m not trying to convince you of anything (you STILL don’t get it), I’m just havin’ fun wit’cha… you know… clowinin’ yo ass 😉

          • sdrake

            Translation: “I got my butt kicked by facts and cannot support anything I say so I’ll just change the subject.”

            You obviously have a lot of time on your hands. But that’s the way liberals are. They’d rather troll and not work while living off of hard-working tax payers.

          • sdrake
          • sdrake

            There. I provided you with a couple of links. Still want to accuse me of making it up?

          • Brocephus

            You know as well as the rest of us that PP is associated with the left. Stop being disingenuous, it’s not a good look.

          • sdrake

            Of COURSE P.P. is associated with the left. That doesn’t change the fact that the guy who shot up one of its locations is a lunatic and resembles the behavior of a Christian as much as Obama resembles a president who respects the Constitution.

          • Brocephus

            You mean like the jihadists who shoot innocent people resemble real Islam about as much as D-Trump resembles a real candidate?

          • sdrake

            Still waiting for your citation proving conservatives own more guns that liberals.

          • Brocephus

            What makes you think I’m going to the trouble to cite links that you’ll just dismiss anyway. You still don’t understand that this has turned into a pissing contest do you? Why am I not surprised? Duh… consider yourself pissed on bunky, and you’ve become tiresome, so bye now 🙂

          • sdrake

            You could find the stats from the CDC, Bureau of Statistics and other government agencies, none of which I would dismiss.

            But go ahead and stick your fingers in your ears and your head in the sand. Run away, Brocephus, run away– like the coward you are.

        • Mike

          Exactly both are and should be offensive but last time I checked, NOBODY in government, the media or the Hollywood reacted when fellow liberals went on another tangent about the violent crazy gun loving Jesus freaks of America after planned parenthood, but say something about Muslims oh boy are you gonna get reminded that you’re being intolerant.

          • pleasebereasonable

            Except nobody in the government, the media or hollywood is making broad generalizations about “Jesus freaks of America”. The focus has been entirely on the ‘violent crazy gun loving” part, were as the exact opposite is true for violent crazy gun loving Muhammad freaks of America.

          • Mike

            Who in government has made “broad generalizations” about Muslims, Donald Trump is a reality star and building developer.

    • sdrake

      Oh, please.

  • Jim Casy

    The Trump supporter in full resplendence. Behold!

  • Fantasy Maker

    So you can’t say aggrieved Muslim on here, is this North Korea, China or Cuba now?

  • Robert Airehart

    Well, 14 San Bernardinians and 130 Parisians can’t comment on your “ordeal”. Sorry that your ideology has such contempt for women that, when a muslima has a hard time parking, one references the plight of your “sisters” in the islamic kingdom of saudi arabia. I also feel so terrible that you haven’t embraced the fact that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and that islam has been known to react violently to “kuffar”. I also feel soooo sorry for women that when flaunting your fundamentalist/radical islamist headgarb/veil/burka, that people get offended. I also feel so bad that after all the attacks, after all the threats, after bombings, beheading and all the evil that your ideology has been associated with, that your ideology has sown distrust and that some people are fed up with it..

    • HappyEmeritus

      You liked your time in the SA Bashing Jews with yarmulkas?

      • Robert Airehart

        How old do you think I am..or is that just another empty slur? Just another insult? Or is it you being the white knight social justice warrior that you believe you are? Boy, you are weak…

    • CGLewis

      But despite radical Jesus fundies, Christianity gets a pass. Looks like you’re not living up to yor profile pic, speak no evil.

      • Alliekitty

        Please show us ANY murders that have occurred where the murderer shouted :in the name of jesus: thanks

        • Brocephus

          Um, how ’bout the Crusades?

  • HappyEmeritus

    It’s TEXAS the racist crazies have guns lots of them They have those guns so they can intimidate decent people

    • txbatman1

      If you live in Texas, then you can leave anytime now.

      • Walt Longmire

        I already did, thank goodness. I loved the state, despised the mindset. I would sell Texas to Mexico for a profit if I could. The Red River seem like a good borderline.

      • Brocephus

        Well you’re just positively batty. So you wanna have lunch with these guys, right?

    • Robert Airehart

      • TrulyJulie

        Awesomesauce. Thanks!

      • Indiana Pearl

        Robert Airhead . . .

    • sdrake

      Are your parents perchance siblings?

  • Fantasy Maker

    Pathetic censorship on here- I said aggrieved Muslim and it was deleted, in case you wanted to know

  • donuthin2

    I’m not sure how I would have reacted had I been there and witnessed the horrible incident. I would like to think that I would have approached the red neck guy and told him he was clearly out of order and left with the two girls. There is absolutely no room for the kind of remarks made by the old idiot and no, his age is not an excuse for his horrible behavior. It may be the kind of thing that had happened to the couple in California that caused them to be radicalized. If so it certainly doesn’t justify their act of terrorism.

    • Indiana Pearl

      There are a lot of crazy people with guns these days.

      • sdrake

        And the overwhelming majority of violent criminals are lefties.

        • Brocephus

          You mean like Robert Dear (the Planned Parenthood killer)?

          • sdrake

            I mean like the overwhelming majority of mass-shooters and your average street thug.

  • Usernamesareapain

    I’m mad that nobody in the restaurant stood up for women drivers. I’m sure her car was parked just as well as his, eventually.

    • TrulyJulie

      That’s funny!

  • Brocephus

    This isn’t necessarily a ‘progressive’ (read: recent) idea, and yes we can and should speak up – regardless of how our society is built.

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” – Edmund Burke

  • NM2000

    You say that such events are not unusual in Austin, but then she goes on to say herself that this was the first time she’d experienced it in Austin. Sure, it can and does happen here. I’d still believe it happens here far less often than in many other parts of Texas.

  • cmnkisrule

    I’m curious what was expected of the other patrons. That everybody stand up and yell at the racist guy? Get in his face? Intimidate him? I’d rather not be dead when scared old man tells the police he feared for his life and that’s why he had to shoot me. I look at it as crazy, racist guy acts innapropriate in a public setting it’s time for management and/or cops to intervene.

  • Saltydog

    This was a really bizarre article. It’s an unfortunate incident and more unfortunate that terrible manager (who should be fired) let it happen. But what exactly is the point of trying to blame the entire city of Austin for it? You hate progressives and then are upset that they aren’t progressive enough?

    • TrulyJulie

      Dan Solomon is from Chicago. If you read a smattering of his pieces it should become fairly obvious that he hates Texas because it’s not a blue state.

      • Saltydog

        I’m a true blue Dem myself, but this was offensively bad writing and structure

      • Indiana Pearl

        Younhave an attitude problem.

        • TrulyJulie

          You’re welcome to think so, and the beauty of the First Amendment is that you’re also free to tell me so without government intervention. Ain’t the Constitution great?

          • Indiana Pearl

            You betcha!

      • wessexmom

        There is much more entrenched racism in Chicago and the Midwest in general than there is in Texas. Few cities are as segregated as Chicago, St. Louis and Detroit.

  • don76550

    maybe if your kind of people were not promoting and commiting terrorism around the globe this would not have happened. You reap what you sow and I have no sympathy for you. You love to chant “death to America” well I say death to ragheads.

    • Indiana Pearl

      I say crazy old guys from Lampasas should take their Aracept and get back in their wheelchairs.

  • John

    I would not expect other patrons to become involved in a confrontation with a belligerent and possibly dangerous patron. That’s asking too much. I don’t know how it would best be handled and there may not be a good way. Something like this could become a police matter if the guy is unbalanced. It seems to me the staff defused it in the best way possible.

    I will add that I have worked in many different cities, four in Texas. It’s been a couple of decades but Austin is, without question, the most racist city I have ever been in stretching from New York to the West Coast.

    I have fond memories of Austin except for the obvious fear the minorities who lived there exhibited. They would cringe as I walked down a hallway and I couldn’t figure out how to set them at ease.

  • Steve Elliott

    If this happened before they were seated, near the host(ess) station, it’s hardly likely that most of the patrons even noticed. Not saying that excuses the inaction of any that did, but you can’t indict all the patrons for it.

  • jadedhaven

    Natural born, legacy Texan weighing in…

    Most of you people are a true disappointment. Two young women are verbally assualted at a restaurant and you think that’s fine because they’re scarf wearing muslims?

    These ladies were born and raised on our soil, they’re our people and deserve the same respectful treatment that our country’s constitution affords to all theological stripes.

    You’d think Christians would understand and appreciate this concept.

  • sdrake

    The problem I have with this article is how it suggests that progressives and Democrats are generally free of racism and bigotry. What a crock. Liberals are about the most intolerant people there are. They bash conservatives, Republicans, Tea Party folks, Christians and everyone else not like them. Oh, and white men? Not much tolerance for them either.

  • John Johnson

    Who is Dan Solomon? Every piece he writes seems goofy to me. When we see others being wronged, we’re supposed to jump in? Is this the liberal’s policy just in local restaurants but not around the world, too? The open, overt contempt the man showed toward the two women was horrendous, but young Mr. Solomon’s take is ridiculous. Austin is no longer Nirvana because of the inaction of people in a restaurant? How about the inaction of Muslims in the U.S. when their brethren kill and injure innocent people?

  • Monica Guerra

    Wow. This read like a John Quiñones moment without the actors involved waiting for that “psyche” moment. My goodness and this is the city that prides itself on its progressive community? This is our capital city and the town that stands out from the rest with its eclectic diversity. As I read more stories like this I’m observing that Austin is just getting more pretentious and smug or perhaps it’s always been that way and I’ve just been naïve. I used to get the impression that they looked down on any town south of Austin even from the transplants that come from south of there. I suppose I’ve been sensing a lot of hot air and arrogance or am I still getting a wrong impression about this town that so many covet?

  • Notsuoh

    Or, maybe Austin IS a progressive haven and the woman’s blog post exaggerates her persecution…

  • Madrigalian

    Saudi is not a race. It is a Nation.
    Islam is not a race. It is a religion, an ideology.
    Muslim is not a race. It is an adherent to Islamic ideology.
    As much as the left may refuse to admit it, it isn’t about race. It’s about Ideology.

    And Islam is evil. Period.

  • wessexmom

    Get real, Dan Solomon!
    You expect the people in that restaurant to stand up against someone ranting like that–in this day and age? WHAT IF HE HAD HAD A GUN? Any impulse I may have had to intervene in that situation would have been quickly overridden by that worry! And what, pray tell, did you expect the manager to do? You criticize her without outlining any specific actions she should have taken instead. Again, WHAT IF THE ANGRY GUY HAD A GUN and was truly CRAZY as well? How could you expect her to discern what this man’s intentions were? I’m not excusing this guy’s rude and intimidating behavior but if he was really threatening these women, either verbally or physically, then someone should have called 911 immediately.

    As for Austin being a bastion of liberalism, sorry to burst your bubble but that’s always been somewhat of a myth, (Just read your own mag’s story WHAT NOBODY SAYS ABOUT AUSTIN in the FEB 2013 issue: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/what-nobody-says-about-austin/)

    I’ve lived in Austin and also in the liberal mecca of Manhattan–which gave us Donald Trump, the very man who may have inspired the angry guy at Kerbey Lane to go off. Again, get real.

  • Alliekitty

    Liberal rag. Intolerant of those who you deem as not as tolerant as you are. I can’t stand your magazine and stupid, divisive and deceptive junk writing like this is why. Kerbey Lane is one of the most diverse accepting businesses in Austin. You know it but that won’t get you as many clicks as this snarky attempt at self righteous indignation. Kerbey Lane responded swiftly to the beligerant women who butted into someone’s private conversation and then demanded what was said in private to be repeated. Maybe you are a freaking out over a senile old man who didnt know what he was saying. That would make you all intolerant of the old and feeble. Furthermore the supposed victims harassed the man who obviously didn’t want to talk to them. He may have been racist or a bigot but they were no less than he. The friend told the story much better. According to her, the ‘wife’ of the “frog faced bigot” in this case told the WOMAN (not girl) that her companion had been talking to her and not to them. Her recalling of that was “blah blah blah” which indicates she’s just as, if not more, intolerant and belligerent than they were, considering they also strode across the restaurant to confront these people who had moved on already. She used more liberal emotionally driven catchphrases in her short diatribe recounting the experience, than in a whole copy of your magazine, which says a lot. You people need to do some very deep self reflection and quit accusing everyone else of what you yourselves are guilty. The response Kerbey Lane gave was quick and sound and included an active ongoing plan. But that’s not enough for you blood thirsty, self righteous pompous liberals. It just shows how quickly you turn on and devour your own. These “girls” ‘stand in solidarity with Palestine” yet want to use the term “americans” to describe themselves. What most of you intolerant, blood thirsty liberals have forgotten is that if you are going to be an american you drop your divisive mess from your home country and respect everyone the SAME WAY these women expected when they demanded respect by belligerently confronting, not just the man, but the entire restaurant shouting about how they had been “insulted”. I’m insulted often for things about me that set me apart. Everyone is. Its all in how you respond that deciphers if you are better than or, as so many including the originally offended are in this case, actually worse than the person who insulted you. Its about time people decided that America is about acceptance and not dividing into groups that one group thinks is better than another. If you stand in solidarity with anyone you are automatically standing in solidarity against other Americans, so drop the charade of using ‘American’ and “peace ” about people who hate other americans, whether the hated one is the Muslim or Christian or Jewish or Atheist or any myriad color. The beligerant aggressors in this case are the “offended” ones and had you done your research you would know that. From the view of the managers it would have definitely looked like THEY were causing the scene, shouting and screaming about how they had been insulted. WHAT Is this? The 1800’s???? You want progress but you think we should go back to slapping people on the face with a glove and starting a mental dual on social media? What a sad display of dichotomy of thought. Grow up and think for yourself and do some real unbiased, researched reporting in an article for once! Or stick to what’s nice and fun about austin because if you were truly concerned about progress rather than beating down “whitey”, you would stand behind kerbey lane’s commitment to change.

  • Mike

    Nobody should be harassed but as a Muslim American this new liberal ideology of “Muslims can do no wrong” is really freaking me out considering how fast you all go after Jews who support Israel or conservative Christians neither of whom I can admit don’t really say death to America that often compared to people throughout the Middle East be they terrorist or not.

    Little worried you’re all gonna force your daughters (and mine) to wear burqas in a few years as to not offend the great progressive and peace loving Muslims next door who just moved from Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or Somalia.

    • Alliekitty

      In the 1800s any woman showing her ankle was called a tart. We evolved. Yet the progressives want to take us back a hundred and a thousand years more to old antiquated laws in the name of a religion based on laws as old as any in the old testament or the Jewish book, that they claim often and loudly are no longer useful. Its the pinnacle of hypocrisy really. Im starting to like christians more and more as I see how hypocritical, judgemental, sanctimonious and hatefully and inconsistently intolerant progessive liberals are, because at least they have a propensity to change, if they try to immulate jesus, from these awful behaviors so many exhibit which are obviously just a disgusting part of human nature. I’ve often wondered if muslim people aren’t offended by the things liberal progressives say to and about Christians whose beliefs often align with theirs.

      • Mike

        I’m Muslim by general associations of having been born in the middle east but from my admittedly limited exposure to that side of the fence (I came to the US pretty young and don’t hang out with Muslims as they’re mostly Arab and I’m not) they care as much about Christian rights as feminists care about changing laws that are unfair and bias against men.

        • wessexmom

          So are you Muslim or not? We have a number of friends born in Lebanon and other countries in the middle east who are Christian, not Muslim. Muslim is a religion, not a region.

          • Mike

            I’m not Christian, I’m a “Muslim” by birth but not by typical practice in the sense of praying 5 times a day though I don’t eat pork…lazy Muslim I guess.

  • Corliss Denise Harris

    Well, I used to begin to talk truths about myself when I encountered patrons like this at a local job. When I was unjustly treated, I let the customer sit down and as I cleaned, I began to tell the TRUTH about myself to “another employee”. It was the only way I knew to ensure that the atmosphere KNEW who I truly was, no matter how unfair their behavior proved to be. When this happens, stay, and then counter their every word with the truth about yourself. Think of it as a way to begin to organize your thoughts on the reality of you so that you can stand in the face of the injustices we find ourselves having to swallow. Often, these people NEED to be taught, and have never been made to hear anything other than what they have wanted to hear, feeding their ignorance. Don’t feed their ignorance. Feed your soul with positive affirmation of yourself so that those that listen are astounded by the awesome person(s) you happen to be.

  • LittleOl’Me

    if the news media were unbiased and got both sides of a story before vilifying, what a wonderful world this would be…
    http://www.examiner.com/article/reports-of-harassment-of-two-muslims-kerbey-lane-store-wrong-says-witnesses

  • John Notnamron

    I am looking forward to hearing about some crazy going into a mosque and blowing away a bunch of Muslims and you know it is going to happen. We have Christian fanatics in this country and they are just as bad as Muslim fanatics.

    • macopeland1

      Typical sociopathic response from an obvious progressive disengaged from reality . Muslims are already going into Mosques and blowing away other muslims, Christians on the other hand by definition could not do such a thing . You need help and prayer for your mental illness.

  • macopeland1

    She ” Literally couldn’t believe what she heard him say” as apposed to what ? Figuratively?. What a moron, which is really why you should go back to where you came from and by the way ,take your phoney self serving outrage with you.

  • Marc Lavrichenko

    I have never heard about tolerance in Moslem countries. They are very hard in observing their Shariat laws and will never let any foreigner behave in their country in his/her habitual way. Then why we let them walk around in these black yashmaks and propagate their medieval traditions? Besides the girls obviously forgot that they are in a free society and here everybody has the right to express his/her standpoint))

  • Seek Thetruth

    Muslims use the “victim” scenario as control. They need to stop pretending to be so thin skinned because they’re in America now and we don’t play that game……especially in Texas.

  • Anne McCrady

    As President Obama said, “It’s on us!”

  • Kayleigh28

    I’m sorry this happened to these girls, and I know it’s hurtful, but honestly, young people need to develop a thicker skin, and learn what my mother always used to tell me, that “sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.” If someone offends me in public, I have no expectation that others will defend me, unless that person becomes physically aggressive, and there was no indication that this man was anything more than rude. Also, it sounds to me like the girls escalated the situation by instigating the second incident inside the restaurant. They should have just ignored him and asked to be reseated. So on behalf of Texas, I will apologize for that one rude man, but I would like to point out that, if the girls were actually IN Saudi Arabia or any other Islamic country, they would experience much, much worse if they went anywhere AT ALL unchaperoned. Like scourging.

  • Codewizard

    So let me get this straight. Texans are bigots, sexists, and racists; but liberals are all sweetness and light? Is that your take on this? Ain’t been to Baltimore, Boston, NYC, Chicago, or LA have you? Heck, Austin for that matter.

    And “Islamapobia?” Get real, that’s another of the liberal speech squelching hate words. People who use that word, are the haters, and the problem. Yea I just called you hateful, judgemental, and arrogant. All things liberals say they are not; but are.

    Why won’t you examine WHY Islam is the chosen “faith” of terrorists? Is it because they agree with liberals (like yoursleves)? Maybe you should explain why liberals don’t object to the hatred in Islam: e.g. stoning of homosexuals, women as slaves, slaughtering of Christians (who you hate), and taking of land that’s not their’s (you get all pissy about the “white man” taking the “red man” land).

    Oh that would “Islmaphobia!” Yes, we can’t discuss WHY Islam is dangerous, it might hurt the terrorists feelings! And how dare anyone be allowed to think for themselves, and form opinoins that disagree with the Fascists of the Left.

    Isn’t Kerbey Lane a hang out for the hipster-rainbow-peacenik-love-all crowd? Seems odd they would just stand around, based upon their preachings. But actions do speak louder than words, right Mr President (Obama). Nothing new here. Big talk.

    I can’t say I’m surprised by the tone of this article, it is after all Texas Monthly. A magazine packed with wannabe-New-Yorkers who desperately want to write for The New Yorker. The hate for Texas drips from every page, both analog and digital.

    Country to popular belief; liberals are MORE racist, sexist, and bigoted than anyone else. There is no love within liberals, they think they are better than everyone else. That’s hate, btw. Liberals love to talk a good game about the Utopia to come. They never explain why it, and they, fail at this dream-world.

    Oh you don’t think so? Re-read the article.

    Articles like this are no more than “red meat” (ironically for the mostly meatless) for the holier-than-thou keyboard commandos of the Utopian hipster hypocrite crowd.

    They can spew their hatred of everyone not to the left of Marx, and try to shame into silence those that see them for what they are. Other liberals will pat them on the back for being “enlightened.”

    None of them ever see just how hypocritical they are. They are convinced they are superior, and it’s o.k. to hate people who are clearly inferior. That’s the way ISIS thinks, also.

    I doubt if more than 1% of the readers of this comment will understand what I mean.

  • Robert Airehart

    the truth is, those muslims lied….but the narritive, not the truth is important

  • Dan Wareham

    Sadly this is not the story that at least one witness is reporting that happened. Apparently the Muslim woman is lying…. or misheard what he actually said which was that the person parking the car needed to take lessons again. http://www.examiner.com/article/reports-of-harassment-of-two-muslims-kerbey-lane-store-wrong-says-witnesses

  • TexasForever1836

    Just goes to show how hypocritical liberals really are.
    Liberals have created a world of separatism all under the guise of cultural diversity and political correctness.
    So enjoy the madness as it will only get worst.